Apple's WORST Deal in 2024 - iPhone SE is Overpriced!

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  • @91Tech
    @91Tech  ปีที่แล้ว +221

    Since the iPhone SE's launch in early 2022, it's remained at $430 for what is at its core an iPhone 8 with an A15 chip. In the same timeframe, the iPhone 13 has gone from $800 to $600. Right now, the iPhone 13 comes with twice the base storage, a much more premium build, a bigger way better display, and significantly better camera system for $170 more.
    The iPhone SE is TERRIBLE value right now, please do not buy it. I like the SE as a phone, but don't give Apple your money- turn to the used market, where it can be had for half the price in good condition.

    • @tubztergaming5700
      @tubztergaming5700 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wee poo your so right josh

    • @ReadTheBible8
      @ReadTheBible8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Tracfone,Simple Mobile, Straight Talk SE 2022 is 149.99 new.

    • @michaelcaywood6070
      @michaelcaywood6070 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      If Apple lowered their prices, they would do a whole lot better. Whe Else agreed with me?

    • @ADCowie
      @ADCowie ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The iPhone 12 is currently available from Apple's US refurbished store at $449 which is a vastly better option that the SE at $429.

    • @ReadTheBible8
      @ReadTheBible8 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@michaelcaywood6070 If everyone lowered prices things would be much better. Gasoline,food,healthcare, electricity. I paid more for my truck than I did for my house Good day.

  • @pablo9021
    @pablo9021 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +682

    The fact that they removed the 13 mini just to sell the se is such a scumbag move from apple

    • @casswashwash1070
      @casswashwash1070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +187

      @@WiiManElite its not 800 💀 its wouldve been 500. And its a really goo phone its just smaller in size. Not everyone wants a tv in there pocket

    • @eternalbane996
      @eternalbane996 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      @@WiiManElite ???

    • @ForgottenC2890
      @ForgottenC2890 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +57

      @@WiiManEliteit’s not $800 anymore and the 13 mini is better quality than se, get your facts right before commenting

    • @Youtubewat6h3rg
      @Youtubewat6h3rg 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ​@WiiManElite the 15 is 799...

    • @NiNGalaxU2
      @NiNGalaxU2 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      I have my iPhone 13 mini still going strong. Just need to replace the battery since it is now at 88% health but this is the best phone I have used in a long time. And on Amazon, at least Amazon Germany, as of September 19 2023 you can still get new 13 mini iPhones however they aren’t really much cheaper than the regular 13, maybe like 20-50€

  • @fireball2275
    @fireball2275 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Rip mini lineup, that was the best phone apple ever made other than the 5s

    • @figeon
      @figeon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Amen

    • @mrmarky4268
      @mrmarky4268 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      I see the mini coming back in the form of the next SE

    • @figeon
      @figeon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      @@mrmarky4268 That would be the best case scenario, but personally I don’t think it will happen.

    • @rosaliebirdsong3712
      @rosaliebirdsong3712 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      😂

    • @lollo_0224
      @lollo_0224 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’m running an XR, but next year I was thinking of getting a 13 mini. Then I realised how little major updates it would get and I discarded the idea. I really wanted a mini ;-;

  • @eggbag4182
    @eggbag4182 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +256

    Here’s an idea for the SE: literally just make it the 13 Mini. Don’t even change anything, maybe give it new colors and a slightly better battery. Just sell the 13 Mini for $430 and call it the SE

    • @SethCocker05
      @SethCocker05 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      As cool as that would be in reality it would basically be an iPhone 15 mini and there’s no way Apple would sell that for under $600

    • @nicholas.alan85
      @nicholas.alan85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      ​@@SethCocker05it would have a two year old chipset .. what you mean?

    • @mehshutup3041
      @mehshutup3041 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      ​@@nicholas.alan85*last year chipset. Iphone 14 use the same chip

    • @nicholas.alan85
      @nicholas.alan85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      @@mehshutup3041 you right! Just another reason why I switched to my pixel. 😂😂

    • @progenitor_amborella
      @progenitor_amborella 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      The thing though… older people or just tech illiterate people like the home button. But Face ID is very intuitive, so… eh, the SE absolutely needs to be updated more. I get its place, but the pricing is defo a scam in the current year.
      A side note, I would LOVE a “Pro” phone in the “Mini” form factor.

  • @KatsuyaTheFuuk
    @KatsuyaTheFuuk ปีที่แล้ว +343

    Fun fact, my brother has the 2022 SE, and his battery health was at 78% after just a little over a year. (and it started expanding a month ago and the cheapest option for him was to replace the phone entirely lol) Such great value for that much, Apple. Very cool!.... What an Apple moment

    • @TadR1
      @TadR1 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      And don't forget its super environmentally friendly to replace the whole phone instead of the faulty part! Go Apple!!

    • @KatsuyaTheFuuk
      @KatsuyaTheFuuk ปีที่แล้ว +21

      @@TadR1 yeah they're so green! I LOVE EWASTE, WOOHOOOO SO GREEN

    • @s2000.
      @s2000. ปีที่แล้ว +5

      2022 apple batteries are terrible. Mine is at 83 exactly a year from new.

    • @Abel_DG
      @Abel_DG ปีที่แล้ว +33

      If your iPhone battery health is 80% or less within a year, that is considered abnormal behaviour by apple, and you can get a free battery replacement. (In Europe at least)

    • @lukinnesbit9080
      @lukinnesbit9080 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Just make sure to charge your phone when it’s low on battery. And keep it out of the sunlight because that could speed up the battery degradation process.

  • @Keither754
    @Keither754 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    They should have *at least* dropped the iPhone SE back down to $399 🤦‍♂️ I don’t think that the iPhone SE is a “bad phone” in any way but it is a pretty tough sell at that price 🤕

    • @Peculiarsafe83
      @Peculiarsafe83 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      It should’ve been dropped down to $329 instead of $429. The only people who use the SE in these days are Senior Citizens, people who can’t afford the higher end phones, or people who buy them for their kids. And the only reason I can just as to why Apple still charges $429 is that in their minds it’s because it has the A15 chip in it.

    • @paisleepunk
      @paisleepunk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Peculiarsafe83 oooh, price 'em down to match the ipad 9 which serves a similar purpose, good thinking

  • @DJSH98989
    @DJSH98989 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    The SE would be cool at$299

    • @91Tech
      @91Tech  ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Fully agree! In the very least, that'd be a reasonable price point.
      Unfortunately, Apple would rather line their pockets, so here we are with the SE at $429.

    • @Based.moroccan
      @Based.moroccan ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@91Techit should be 250

    • @techken
      @techken 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I remember the last year of 1st gen iPhone SE before it got discontinued in 2018 is $350.

    • @zachbrands
      @zachbrands 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'll never understand (I do 100%) lol but whyyy remove phones like the 13 mini and 12 from the apple websites for people looking for a more affordable yet brand new iPhone.. they'd still be getting potential new customers joining the apple ecosystem and wouldn't truly effect any of the other models sales in the lineup lol just apple being apple I suppose, the se3 is a great value on the used market coming in at $250 and under on eBay but the new SE will definitely be the way to go once it drops. RIP the iPhone 13 mini lol sad I never bought one brand new just to keep as a backup device 🤭

    • @Tag_OSC_Legacy
      @Tag_OSC_Legacy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fr. I had to pay like over $600 for my iphone se

  • @MrDucklangTech
    @MrDucklangTech ปีที่แล้ว +76

    The only thing it really has going for it is the home button, some people just can’t move away from the older design.
    That’s the reason my friend bought it, he was upgrading from an SE 1st gen and really wanted a home button so it still seemed liked a huge upgrade.

    • @Edwin-km4xk
      @Edwin-km4xk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Same upgraded from SE 1 to SE 3. Best decision ever!

    • @petemiller2598
      @petemiller2598 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Besides consumers, there are a lot of legacy corporate uses of these style iPhones with the home button. I am an RN, and every employee in my hospital is issued one of these (either SE 2020/2022 or iPhone 7/8) each day for clinical communications. There is a ton of equipment specifically made for the form factor like multi-docks and battery cases that the hospital buys. I think this is how Apple keeps the price where it is. They sell these things to a lot of businesses.

    • @casswashwash1070
      @casswashwash1070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Once u stop using the home button you get over it. The vibration on the newer phones help you get over it. And then going back to the button will not feel as good

    • @Edwin-km4xk
      @Edwin-km4xk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@casswashwash1070 You may be right. But in my case I’ve tried the X and 12 for months. But none gave me the satisfaction of Touch ID and the home button. That’s why I got straight to the SE 3

    • @fijiwill2237
      @fijiwill2237 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Shitty ass home button phone 💀

  • @lilPopper
    @lilPopper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Damn shame Apple didn't drop the price on the SE because I would have love to get that upgrading from the iPhone 8. I personally like the SE more than the flagships. Even if I were to afford a flagship iPhone, I honestly am more drawn to the SE -- I like the size, given my small hands. I like Touch ID more than face unlock. I'm trying to be more minimalist using my phone, and I'd be saving more money from buying accessories like a case for the SE.

    • @casswashwash1070
      @casswashwash1070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I get cases on amazon.

    • @eric9061
      @eric9061 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      If they lowered the price to around $250 it would sell like CRAZY

    • @orangeyellow-me1pz
      @orangeyellow-me1pz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Minimalist using your phone? Why not but a dumb phone?

    • @LaloSalamancaGaming69
      @LaloSalamancaGaming69 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just buy the 13 mini

    • @lilPopper
      @lilPopper 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@LaloSalamancaGaming69 nope. I still rather have Touch ID

  • @michaelgerardaustria
    @michaelgerardaustria 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Apple shouldn't have discondinued the iphone 13 mini. Instead, they should have discontinued this se model, then rebrand the 13 mini as the new se.even if they sell the 13 mini for 499, people would still buy it over the the current se. Apple has become so greedy. Shortchanging their customers without them knowing it because of their marketing.

  • @steveb1972
    @steveb1972 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The SE is SO important for us 10% that can’t use OLED due to PWM!
    I’m gutted by all the rumours of the SE 4 possibly being OLED! GRRRRRR!!!!!

    • @91Tech
      @91Tech  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've heard this from people before, that honestly sucks and I'm surprised it doesn't get talked about more. Really awful Apple overcharges so much for their sole LCD iPhone, but hopefully they'll keep it in the line-up and reduce the price next year to something more reasonable.

  • @jakedunlap8809
    @jakedunlap8809 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Awesome video! I will definitely share this with a friend who still has the iPhone 8. I’m trying to get him to upgrade to the modern Face ID, but he won’t do it. I think since he is from the baby boomer generation, that is why he does not want to change.

    • @91Tech
      @91Tech  ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've given lots of advice to older people over the years and generally, the SE has been a solid recommendation as it's familiar to them and has a long life of support ahead of it. But at this point, I really can't recommend the SE to anyone when the 13 is so much better value... it's unfortunate. Hope you can convince your friend!

    • @jakedunlap8809
      @jakedunlap8809 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@91Tech thank you! My friend who still has the iPhone 8 is an awesome guy.

  • @9852323
    @9852323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    Some carriers are selling the SE for $150 which is an amazing deal considering you’re getting the processing power of the 14.

    • @BruhHowDidIGetHere
      @BruhHowDidIGetHere 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I got my mom the SE2 for about $88 used last month. I feel like I got a bargain in a way lol

    • @nicholas.alan85
      @nicholas.alan85 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Metro by T-Mobile here in Wisconsin is either offering it for FREE or 99 bucks. It's crazy

    • @MachoManDan
      @MachoManDan 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      “Processing power” of the 13 not 14

    • @9852323
      @9852323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@MachoManDan 13 and 14 both have the same chipset.

    • @9852323
      @9852323 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@BruhHowDidIGetHere that is a bargain. People are still buying 6s’s and 7’s for that price. You got a good deal.

  • @Andrew982_
    @Andrew982_ 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Earlier this year I was contemplating a new phone but didn’t need the latest and greatest. I found a good deal on a 128GB 12 and opted for that over the SE. I’m glad I did because the 12 is better in every way except the chipset is one generation older than the SE. But even then, the A14 still powers through whatever I need to do on my phone.

  • @bradstercivic
    @bradstercivic 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Out of all the Apple things so far, the discontinuation of the 13 Mini has me most distraught 😭
    It was always nice to have the option to buy it officially new, and as an alternative to the usual large phones
    Though after you pointed out how it is too close to the SE price wise, I can see now why it had to go, not happy about it though 😢

    • @AdventVFX
      @AdventVFX 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      same, I would've been happy to get it even if it was a bit "outdated" but still newly produced

    • @Adamtendo_player_1
      @Adamtendo_player_1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was actually glad they discontinued the 13 mini as it was an overrated phone and deservedly flopped people want big phones and rightly so cos bigger is better.

    • @casswashwash1070
      @casswashwash1070 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@WiiManEliteWhat phone is 800 cause mini are not 800 dollars unless ppl are reselling for too much

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Indeed - they could just give it USB-C, leave it in single colour and storage option and keep it as new SE. Or iPhone Air.

    • @Pleshie
      @Pleshie 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@WiiManElite Bro is typing this in every comment thread about the mini that he can find despite him being so astronomically incorrect its funny

  • @jayh40515
    @jayh40515 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My Iphone SE 2022 still has 99% battery health, works great. I have it in a premium leather case and it easily last me a day. I bought it used from someone who owned it for only 4 months at the time, paid $150 for it. Works great with my Ipad 9th gen and Apple watch Se. It's a great phone, best electronic purchase I have made in the last few years!

  • @waddledee6642
    @waddledee6642 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think the 3rd gen Iphone SE would've been much better if it had more improvements over the Iphone SE 2nd gen, giving more users a genuine reason to upgrade. The only notable improvments were obviously the chipset, (which improved the camera software, not the hardware) The battery life, and having a 5G cellular connection as opposed to the 2nd gen's 4G LTE. Basically the same phone. (Not surprising, as that's just what apple does.) And the fact that it hasn't had even the SLIGHTEST price drop despite newer phones coming out is kind of insane. It's almost like apple wanted this phone to fail.

  • @rogerb8837
    @rogerb8837 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I like the SE because of its pocket friendly size and Touch ID. I have found that Touch ID is easy to use when making payments to different merchants and banking institutions. It’s relatively small size allows the phone to operated with one hand. I agree that the current price point should be lowered for you get.

  • @Matthew_Murray
    @Matthew_Murray 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Im actually really surprised that Apple has the SE that high, I have an SE got it for $200. Every retail I go into has had it listed for $199. I never knew it ever sold for anything close to $429

  • @redbaron77
    @redbaron77 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I got the SE 2022 through my carrier for $150 new. I love the phone a lot. I use my iPhones for video creation. I had the SE 2 and wanted a secondary camera but found that a camera for video with about the same or better quality would cost significantly more than even the SE straight from apple. So now I have the SE 3 as my main camera and the SE 2 as a secondary camera/go pro. I must say however I’m pretty shocked how much better the camera is on the SE 3 compared to the SE 2. It makes it hard to believe it’s the same sensor.

    • @maxonite
      @maxonite 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Goes to show that sensors don’t matter much anymore, it’s all about the processing

  • @socialrejects1959
    @socialrejects1959 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I got mine used for 250 and still thought it was a bit much however, I’ve had zero issues with it. The A15 chip inside is more than powerful enough.

  • @Slurkz
    @Slurkz ปีที่แล้ว +8

    An important and overlooked feature of the SE is that it's very cheap to repair. For instance:
    A new screen for an SE is $130. For an iPhone 13 this is $280.

    • @Darkest_matter
      @Darkest_matter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Bruh very cheap should mean $50 screen. My cousin's iPhone xr when it broke, the screen was £90.

    • @Slurkz
      @Slurkz 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Darkest_matter You're right. I should have said "much cheaper" instead of "very cheap".
      But £90 for a new screen on the XR? Converted to USD, that is roughly $110.
      Which is not the "official" pricing, that is $200. 🤔

    • @Darkest_matter
      @Darkest_matter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      bruh yall think we gonna pay the apple tax?@@Slurkz

  • @julianurbaszewski4055
    @julianurbaszewski4055 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Its the modern day 5C in terms of what you get for the price

  • @justbulma
    @justbulma 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Thank you for saying this I love Apple and my SE but they need to get their act together for those of us who love the phone because it fits within our budget I would love to buy an updated version with Touch ID in the power button and at an affordable price but I am afraid it will never happen

  • @JustAPersonWhoComments
    @JustAPersonWhoComments 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apple's pricing strategy be like: Let's charge an arm and a leg for the nostalgia of a home button

  • @earthnotflat6196
    @earthnotflat6196 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I got my iPhone SE for $200 brand new on the service I’m using. Would never have paid full price

  • @mikatu
    @mikatu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The SE is a great phone and clearly you have no clue what you are talking about. No everyone wants to carry a tablet on their pocket. Normal people just want a simple and nice phone, with a normal design that uses a home button. The fact that it is the same size my 6S is an extra plus, because that size is perfect.

  • @solidsnakeXY810
    @solidsnakeXY810 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    but the thing is that it is nostalgic and it has a small screen i can use one hand for

  • @figeon
    @figeon 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Excellent video! You should do more content like this. I thoroughly enjoyed sharing your frustration.
    Also RIP iPhone mini again.

  • @donaldcodes
    @donaldcodes 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    If only they kept the iPhone 13 mini and canned the SE.

  • @jasonbaker5430
    @jasonbaker5430 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The price point is definitely to high. I think it should be $250-$300 but the out dated design is a selling point for people who actually want it and prefer Touch ID. Heck, I have 5 iPhones ranging from the 2020 SE and older just because I like the design (8+ is my favorite). I just put a new battery in my 2020 SE last week so it will be good for quite some time and I put a battery in a 2016 SE last year that has basically been my iPod ever since. I’ve been carrying the 8+ for the last 2 weeks just for fun. I’m really enjoying it.

  • @afterglow-podcast
    @afterglow-podcast 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It depends on where you look. I just got one for 49 dollars brand new from Walmart (with activation which was another 30 bucks for a month of service). My plan is to pay for a couple months of service on Total, which should than allow the phone to be unlocked and than I can use it as a second phone on my Metro account. Making the grand total cost of the phone 110 for an unlocked iPhone SE.

  • @adamstoms
    @adamstoms 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Pssst in the apple uk refurbished section the 12 mini is £379 for 64gb and the 128gb is £419 ❤

  • @JustTryingToGetAYTPlayButton
    @JustTryingToGetAYTPlayButton 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bought my iphone 12pro for €500 last year from ebay, could not imagine paying a little less and getting a SE

  • @bradley7506
    @bradley7506 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In Canada the SE I just bought my mother was $580 Cdn…the iPhone 14 is over $1000. So, here the SE seems like a heck of a deal

  • @Joe-lb8qn
    @Joe-lb8qn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bigger is not necessarily better for many. A substantial number of people want a small phone. Period. Full stop. Thats it. Features, brightness, blah blah they dont care as long as its small. Another portion want a home button. This hits both.

  • @TheComebackkidMc
    @TheComebackkidMc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The thing most are missing about the SE is that it’s mainly a phone for older folks because a home button is easy to learn. They don’t need all the latest tech and are sometimes forced to upgrade from a flip phone since those are becoming obsolete.

  • @jfr43
    @jfr43 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I was hoping for Apple Keep the iPhone Mini but nope. You are right in what they are doing

  • @bigboi000069
    @bigboi000069 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a 2020 iPhone SE back in October 2020 for $149 with ATT prepaid service (only required 1 month @ $50 to qualify for the price). Phone was a great value at that price point and I still use it today!

  • @PablilloSapee
    @PablilloSapee 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I got my iPhone SE 2022 second hand in perfect conditions with box and everything for 250$, perfect value and what it should really cost (more or less) if Apple wasn't so greedy. I'm perfectly happy with it, I love the small, simple design and the touch ID. I'm not a photo/video taking guy, so I don't really care about those things much, camera is good enough for my little needs on that aspect. Performance is beautiful for casual gaming and I don't feel any sort of uncomfortable-ness for the small 4.7 inch display.
    However, for 429$ i would never buy it, so I guess iPhone SE is only a good deal if bought second hand in good conditions for under 300$, otherwise its better to go for the 11 or 13.

  • @bigmaxcc
    @bigmaxcc 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Josh: every iPhone is a bit over priced
    😂😂so true

  • @thatguymaty
    @thatguymaty 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Me watching this on my iPhone SE 3 : 👁️👄👁️

    • @ChadFreeman757
      @ChadFreeman757 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m on SE 2. 😢

  • @14RChico
    @14RChico 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    6:27 I agree with this statement. Recently I switched to working at a cell phone store and a customer came in to buy a iPhone mostly because they lost theirs on an Uber and basically couldn't buy one since they're so pricey and possibly knowing that they might have used the ones with a notch an SE wouldn't be an option since they mostly accepted that they may not receive their old iPhone back and had to go thru a financing process just to get a iPhone 12 since that was the lowest end iPhone we had at the moment. The 3rd Gen SE just does not make sense but is also would if a 4th Gen one comes with the mini body but iPhone 14 or even just the iPhone 13 mini design but gets upgrades that make sense and not just say that it has the lightest end SoC on our current gen device. I clearly switched to iPhone because I wanted to try a Home button iPhone before going to a notch one and that's what the SE 4th Gen should be. They kept the Home button iPhone for this long, it should be time to finally let it go and make the SE line as just the mini but maybe also keep it but like mentioned in the video, with a lower price than the $429 it is now

  • @gavinthecrafter
    @gavinthecrafter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The iPhone SE 2nd/3rd gen was only really a good deal when it first launched, I feel like after 2021 though it’s been a tough sell

  • @michaelwoolcock5600
    @michaelwoolcock5600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Apple did me dirty! I have the SE3 and I was hoping to get the 13 mini for £599 when the 15 came out. I have a SE and felt it was time to upgrade. It is about £599 on Amazon and John Lewis. What Apple do? Drop the 13 mini and decide to sell the full size from £599! What's worse, if I buy it, it will be one day before the other sites drop the price of the mini to £499. I am torn...

  • @carlstevens781
    @carlstevens781 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can currently get a certified Apple refurbished iPhone 12 128gb model from them for $489, which I would argue is a better value than the 2022 SE, even if the chipset is a step down.
    I’ve been perusing options since my 64gb iPhone XS is starting to show its age, & burn in is becoming a problem. It’s not worth it to get an OEM or even a good soft OLED replacement for the screen. I’m definitely not gonna risk getting it replaced with an LCD given the draw that would be needed to support the backlight, and it’s also not readily apparent that a decent & cheaper hard OLED would be worth it. I want to sell it, but I’m of good character & would feel obligated to disclose if it had an inferior hard OLED display, which would mean the cost of replacement + fetching lower value would eat into my margins significantly, potentially even more than if I were to just sell it as it is with the disclaimer that it has burn in & an appropriate discount to account for that.
    I’ll end this with a hot take on the next SE. I know it won’t be, but can we all just imagine how neat it would be if the next SE were to be an iPhone 11 + a current chipset + USB C?

    • @shanepatrick641
      @shanepatrick641 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      With an improved battery as well? Hell yeah!!

  • @wikolib6821
    @wikolib6821 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just picked up a new iPhone SE 2022 for $49 at Walmart with ST and a $35 monthly plan. Not all Walmarts participate, just the ones that have a 3rd party cell phone contractor at the store. You can unlock ST phones after 60 days, just did that with a $249 (now $199) ST iPhone 11 for my wife and put her CC sim in no problem to replace her iPhone 6SE+. It appears the iPhones automatically unlock after 60 days, though I did put an unanswered request in. It's an inexpensive way to get an iPhone. As far as the SE 2022 goes, it's a little small, but good screen and it's fast. Already upgraded to iOS 17. Got a $39 Moto Pure on CC and may replace it with the SE 2022 after 60 days. Hard to tell I like cheap phones (The SE 2022 is $429 on CC and the next cheapest iPhone 14 is $729).

  • @njp2k914
    @njp2k914 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    The original se and the 2020 se were great phones imo and gave me the form factor I wanted at the time. I never upgraded to the se 2022 as I did not see the point as it isn’t that much of an upgrade over the 2020. This year I will be upgrading to the 15 and I look forward to comparing them!

  • @realwiggles
    @realwiggles 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You guys had 2 years to buy the 13 Mini and didn’t. Why are there so many people coming out and saying how much they would’ve loved to buy one, how it’s the perfect phone for them, but apparently weren’t down to pay $100 more than it would’ve been listed at now that the 15 is out? $600 is too much for a phone that’s allegedly the exact phone you’ve been wishing Apple would make for years? Apple would’ve continued to sell it if it made sense and it obviously didn’t. If no one bought it when it was new and even less bought it when the price dropped $100, why would they expect more people to buy it now that it’s 2 generations old.

  • @NickFje
    @NickFje 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Norway the iPhone SE costs the equivalent of 600 USD for the 64GB model when purchased new.
    Instead of that an iPhone 13 Pro Max 256GB costs the same if it is purchased used.
    The price to get a brand new battery fitted to the phone from one of the biggest retailers is only 110$ so it is even worth buying used if the battery is worn out and just spend that extra 110$ to get a phone that is much better in every way except portability.
    The SE 2022 64GB model can of course be purchased as a used phone aswell at 300 - 400 $ but it is still poor value for the money.

  • @jjcoolaus
    @jjcoolaus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Australia, refurbished, you can get an iPhone 11 cheaper than you can get a 2022 SE. The iPhone 12 complete with MagSafe and 5G isn’t much more expensive either

  • @sk32md
    @sk32md 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I purchased one for 200 on eBay about 6 months ago. I think it’s less now, but on a trade I’m getting 650 for it with a carrier deal. I can also say I like it much better than the iPhone 12 I had at work, that thing had a serious screen gap, felt like a POS compared to this se.

  • @warrenhinkle1565
    @warrenhinkle1565 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My opinion, I don’t see Apple dropping the price on the Se 3 until maybe Christmas if they do it then but I agree it’s over priced

  • @JamesSmith-sw3nk
    @JamesSmith-sw3nk 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I have never paid more than $250 for a new phone SO it's always a new 6"+ Android and I use it until it dies. (I used a Razr3 flip phone for a LONG time, I still have it and it actually still works.)
    I do watch videos about iPhones to keep informed. Maybe one day I'll buy one. Good video.

    • @hezekiahwallace2412
      @hezekiahwallace2412 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I bought a Motorola Edge 2022 mid-range phone for $250 on Amazon a couple months ago for my dad. 8GB of ram with 256GB of internal storage.

  • @KiearraDScruggs
    @KiearraDScruggs 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm the person that doesn't want to let go of the home button 🤣 I went iPhone 4s, iPhone 6, iPhone 7, iPhone 8, iPhone SE 2nd and now iPhone SE 3rd 😅

  • @eduardothomae
    @eduardothomae 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    $429 for an iPhone SE based on the XR hardware probably makes sense in 2024. Only changing the 128GB as a start of the storege and ading USB C beacause of the UE legislation. I think it could be a good deal.

    • @piotrd.4850
      @piotrd.4850 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'd rather have 13mini castrated from 5G and one of cameras but with USB-C.

    • @und4287
      @und4287 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@piotrd.4850SE3 has 5G, so I doubt they would remove it from the SE4

  • @JamesR624
    @JamesR624 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:00 What? It doesn't have Night Shift at all? The 1ST Gen SE had that...
    Are you sure you're not confusing Night Shift and Night Time Photography?

    • @readybear64
      @readybear64 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Night mode is literally what everyone calls night time photography

  • @paulharrison8379
    @paulharrison8379 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought an as new customer return iPhone SE 2020 a year ago for £229. It had a 100% battery when I bought it. It was half the price of a new iPhone SE 2022 and so given the fact that there is almost no 5G in my county for me it was a better buy. You can now buy a new iPhone SE 2020 for less than £200. The only downside is that like an iPhone 13 Mini, it does not have a whole day battery. I overcome this problem by carrying an iPhone 7 around me to listen to media on and save the battery in my iPhone SE 2020.

    • @maahiahmed7517
      @maahiahmed7517 ปีที่แล้ว

      i bought mine in flawless condition for £90
      Gave it to my sister.

    • @91Tech
      @91Tech  ปีที่แล้ว

      The 2020 SE is great, and possibly the best value iPhone imo from the used market- lots of power in a small, affordable package. Glad it's working for you! Battery life is its biggest downside for sure.

    • @setoth1234
      @setoth1234 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I get all-day batterylife from my 13 mini. It's still a larger battery than even the 2022 SE by about 18% if I remember the calculations.

    • @paulharrison8379
      @paulharrison8379 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@setoth1234 An 18% improvement to my iPhone wouldn't get me through the day. Given that I like small phones it is an annoying fact that the only way to get a 1.5 day battery life is to buy a big phone with an enormous battery.

  • @gregamania1327
    @gregamania1327 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    $849 for the iPhone 13 vs. $579 for the iPhone SE in Canada.

  • @Rspsand07
    @Rspsand07 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "just spend 40% more + tax and you get a better phone" Noooooo, you don't say. If only life were that simple and budgets didn't exist.

  • @OiVinn-eq1ml
    @OiVinn-eq1ml 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like how the SE is thin like the 6s & curve look which is why I got it. And I got it for $350 refurnished. I'll see how it goes.

  • @progenitor_amborella
    @progenitor_amborella 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    6:38 your entire point also applies to Right to Repair! ;) To not support R2R is to directly oppose a sustainable future.
    “Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle”.

  • @ritardstrength5169
    @ritardstrength5169 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m one of the “dummies” who paid full price for an SE3 with 256 GB. I’m tempted to upgrade to a 15 now, but the SE has been absolutely flawless and has that big storage I need.

    • @jackwilson5542
      @jackwilson5542 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Damn. Why not just get an Android phone?

  • @Jey23King
    @Jey23King 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Of course they gonna go low profile with the 13…… they sure won’t wanna remind people it has the same chipset as the 14 😂

  • @steveb1972
    @steveb1972 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unfortunately the SE is the only choice for us 10% who can’t use OLED due to PWM. I’m worried at the speculations that the SE 4 will be OLED.
    I know it’s only 10% of us, but that’s MILLIONS of potential iPhone customers!

    • @jamesgeppetto5316
      @jamesgeppetto5316 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly. IPS needs to continue. I hope apple don’t opt for a cheap OLED flickering screen for the SE4.

  • @Happycat977
    @Happycat977 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you go to the refurbished section on the apple website and look at the 13 mini and it’s cheaper like ???

  • @Moonscentedhunter
    @Moonscentedhunter 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got a iPhone SE for my son for $180 at Walmart last year and Verizon gave me 425 for it towards a 15 pro max. It was a great deal. And he got my 13 pro max

  • @cry2love
    @cry2love 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another best part about iPhone SE is a 720p IPS screen when it can shoot 4k videos 😂

  • @N3tigen
    @N3tigen 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Only I love small phone as secondary device
    I hope for another mini iphone
    SE has only problem is battery

  • @Ninnjette-
    @Ninnjette- 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a 13 mini from Amazon renewed in excellent condition, it came in excellent condition. 💯 battery health. Paid $510

  • @jaredisgay1333
    @jaredisgay1333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a 13 pro with a severely damaged back, but Walmart has the se 3 for 139 which isn’t bad I can’t afford $540 to get the back fixed on my 13 pro , getting the se from Walmart and keeping it active for 2 months to get it unlocked is fine by me for now

  • @KingTechHD
    @KingTechHD 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These sell at Walmart for $99-$150 all the time. After 3 months on Straight Talk ($30/month) it’s SIM unlocked. Cheaper than $429 Apple charges

  • @gunit6815
    @gunit6815 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I would trade my iPhone 13 for an SE immediately. I love a device I can use the entire screen with one hand

  • @bits2646
    @bits2646 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    269-299 MAX for 128 gig would be kind of budget option, for the hardware it containts probably 259 for 128gig and 299 for 256 gig

  • @jjcoolaus
    @jjcoolaus 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Australia the iPhone SE is $719 and the iPhone 13 is $1099. For $700 in Australia you can get a Samsung A54 128GB or a Motorola Edge 40 256GB which are both significantly better than the SE. For $749 you can get a pixel but nobody is buying them here - google has a 1.3% market share in Australia vs Apple at 60% and Samsung at 26%

  • @arjungandhi1242
    @arjungandhi1242 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’m holding on to my 13 mini for a good bit longer. It’s refreshingly compact

  • @michaelwoolcock5600
    @michaelwoolcock5600 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A follow up. Bought the 13 and with trade in on my SE3 and some gift vouchers, I paid £180 for a phone that was £800 a couple of years ago. A point of note: If Apple are trying to be green, why don't they give people an incentive by returning the original box to them when trading your phone in? That would mean less packaging produced when selling in their refurbished site.

  • @Evie0133
    @Evie0133 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    They really should've kept the 13 Mini, but price it at $499, then discontinue the SE. Or make the SE way cheaper, either $399 or $349 for those who really need a home button. If Apple can drop the M2 MBA by $100, they can do that on such a low demand device like the SE as well.

  • @roythunderplump
    @roythunderplump ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Iphone SE 64gb spec wise should drop to £300 new.

  • @filip3148
    @filip3148 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    5:00 the thing you're forgetting is that Apple wants you to think that way. They always want you to climb up the product line to the maximum you can afford. There's a whole MKBHD podcast about that topic :)

  • @wjckc79
    @wjckc79 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't require much from a phone. Call me a luddite. I purchased a 2020 SE for $150 on sale some months ago and am very happy with it. I'm hoping in a couple of years to get a 2022 SE for under $200.

  • @CardboardGuy
    @CardboardGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    91Tech: The iPhone SE is overpriced!
    Me: Water bottles are overpriced😂

  • @lauly33
    @lauly33 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid 🎥, Josh. Hope that you & Cola are both really well x. 🇬🇧

  • @Luma_29
    @Luma_29 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Being an Apple fanboy becomes more and more difficult each yesr

    • @pinroshan020
      @pinroshan020 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hey at least you’re cool not a social climber

    • @godofdeath8785
      @godofdeath8785 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ye but it’s hard not use iPhones I can’t imagin I would glad use android again after iPhone xs. And I want iPhone 13 Pro now. Apple devices expensive but it’s really feels like it’s worth money

  • @JustaaGuy
    @JustaaGuy 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you can get a iPhone 13 128 GB for around £500 on the used market in excellent condition or a iphone 14 for only around £80 more

  • @cienoda3298
    @cienoda3298 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I watched this video from my 2020 SE I got as a gift; it has enough for me as I only use it for social media because it got sim blocked

  • @2cents4u
    @2cents4u 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That Drum n Bass track in the background had that Ridge Racer flavor 👌🤌

  • @BroiledSourGrapes
    @BroiledSourGrapes 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No one should ever pay MSRP for the iPhone SE 2022. There's so many carrier deals for it, both on postpaid and prepaid. Most of the time you can find the 64Gb for under $200 USD.

  • @Dec4AllTimeAlways
    @Dec4AllTimeAlways 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    *iPhone* *SE* *(2022)*
    SE3 has become my favorite iPhone of all-time. I just went back using it as my daily driver because while I prefer Android, I actually want to bombard gig apps on my iPhone.
    Stupid Spectrum Mobile. It wasn't free for a year. It only qualifies for one per account and my mother already took it. So I canceled my line 3 days ago and went back using my AT&T prepaid as my main line which is still FREE. At least Spectrum won't charge me $30.
    For 3 days, I was using my Pixel 3 as my daily. I love the thing and will try to keep it alive for as long as possible as that's the one I upload all my movies and TV shows onto Google Photos, but I ended up missing my SE3 because the battery life is much better on it.
    Pixel 3 has a battery over 2800 mAh. SE3 is at 1918 which also looks like that's the year it was released. Give me the smaller but more efficient battery. Won't drain my power banks as fast with the lower mAh. I don't care if it looks outdated. I prefer Touch ID, rounded sides, and sub-150g weight.
    It's such a maligned iPhone, and yet, I find it the most ideal iPhone I've ever owned. And I owned the iPhone 2G, 3G, 4, 4S twice, 5, SE1 twice, 7 twice, X, and 12 mini. I hated when the iPhone 12s came out and Apple returned to the flatter sides. At least with the 4s and 5s, they were very narrow.
    I'm glad Adam Matlock enjoys the SE3 too. He's one of the rare few. They make perfect trade-in phones although carriers are catching on and lowering their trade-in value. But even if you kept it because you enjoy it, they feel so nice to hold. My stepdad recently caught covid, so I'm wearing a mask. No worries unlocking it.
    If they break, they're so cheap to replace. Cheaper battery replacement. Probably the last, most repairable iPhone since the housing for them are so common. It's the final model with Touch ID and home button. Yeah, it only has 60 Hz and one camera. I don't care about any of that.
    People keep praising the SE1 but the SE3 is so much better than it and the SE2. Imagine it has the same A15 chip as the iPhone 13s and non-Pro 14s and you can get them in excellent condition for under $200. I got mine for $150 last year in October and it was practically new.
    Y'all can have your Face ID iPhone 13 minis with the tall aspect ratios and expensive repairs if Face ID breaks. I couldn't care less if the SE4 looks like it or the 14s with Dynamic Island. I hate those flat sides and a TPU case didn't make them more comfortable. And I prefer opening the Control Center by sliding up.
    SE3 is practical, efficient, repairable, inexpensive, and comfortable to hold
    Has the 16:9 aspect ratio which is great for watching movies and TV shows. And no accidental exits like Netflix by toggling with the volume/brightness going up or down. Lower resolution means better battery efficiency and won't eat up as much data when streaming.
    I'm going to use this iPhone for at least 10 years. I want $0 on my phone bill for the rest of my life and I will never finance a phone ever again. And if this SE3 breaks on me or I lose it, I'll buy another one for dirt cheap. My PSP 2000 model is 15-years-old and still works perfectly.
    SE3 is like the Hondas and Toyotas of iPhone. Reliable and cheap to fix. The last of its iPhone kind. And the best of its kind for my case since I've been trying to simplify my multi-gadgets usage to as few as possible.

  • @ninjanerdstudent6937
    @ninjanerdstudent6937 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The second quarter of 2024 is almost over, so the rumor of the new SE model is wrong.

  • @DBarks38
    @DBarks38 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought the iPhone SE 2020 when I was about to buy a second hand older iPhone. Back then it was an excellent deal to come into Apple. I was so sick of android poor quality and compatibility of the different apps.
    I also always wanted to have a good camera on my smartphone.
    But when they release the “new” iPhone SE in 2022 it has been a big disappointment has there was rumors that it would recycle the iPhone X components with a 5G chip…

  • @badusername4
    @badusername4 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IPhone SE’s are not for personal users. They are for company phones with software attached to IOS. The reason why the price is kept high is is because companies will pay it still being the ‘cheapest’ iPhone without any r&d needed for the SE

  • @m4nc1n1
    @m4nc1n1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13 has been discontinued. You can only get the 14, 14 Plus (no Pros), and the 15 line now.

  • @CriIp
    @CriIp 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wish they would make an iPhone SE plus, so i can have a big phone with touch ID.
    Also they released the iphone se for people who want a normal phone, and also the price was already so low compared to the flagships so they don't want to lower it or it will be a net loss.

  • @123theprodigy5
    @123theprodigy5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who wants to pay $429 for a phone that looks like another phone from 2014, nobody.

    • @SonOfABith
      @SonOfABith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      2017

    • @123theprodigy5
      @123theprodigy5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SonOfABith the screen is from 2014. only the back of the phone is from 2017

    • @SonOfABith
      @SonOfABith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@123theprodigy5 no the screen is not, the screen is literally made of the same material as the iPhone 8. Hence why people say it’s the iPhone 8’s identical twin.

    • @123theprodigy5
      @123theprodigy5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know that, it’s just that it has the same design formula as the iPhone 6 overall.

    • @SonOfABith
      @SonOfABith ปีที่แล้ว

      @@123theprodigy5 sort of, the screen is made of a different material, and the screen is also smaller on the 6/6s than the 8. The 7 is far more similar to the 8/SE than the 6.

  • @Garrettdx1988
    @Garrettdx1988 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! I audibly laughed when they showed their line up during the presentation

  • @paulreece2485
    @paulreece2485 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Apple website Certified refurbished iPhone 13 128gb is £509

  • @ripley528
    @ripley528 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for cheaper than the SE in store, I got a refurbished iphone 12 in excellent condition (i think, it was my birthday present) for like 449 maybe less, no more off amazon renewed.....if you have the money for an SE, unless you really want it, I'd just recommend amazon renewed

  • @rayoflight62
    @rayoflight62 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why buying Apple in 2023?
    There are alternatives like the Pixel phones which are better under all conceivable conditions, costs less than an iPhone, are serviceable, and have some incredible software...

    • @AntiGrieferGames
      @AntiGrieferGames 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Meh, Pixel arent better.

  • @MikeSparksMusic
    @MikeSparksMusic ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I think they could’ve easily done away with the 64GB model and then could’ve kept the starting price the same but technically it would be $50 cheaper since the base model would be 128GB.

    • @91Tech
      @91Tech  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That would definitely be easier to stomach!