i was wrong :(

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ม.ค. 2025

ความคิดเห็น • 213

  • @melissaisloud7404
    @melissaisloud7404 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +672

    I get a sad feeling the epilogue will be Haymitch getting his first tributes & perhaps taking his first drink.

    • @SimmyGreen_
      @SimmyGreen_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      omg why am i crying 😢

  • @EllishaKriesl
    @EllishaKriesl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +220

    Hear me out. Everything we know about Haymitch's hunger games is from the video archive Katniss and Peta watched. What if the version they watched is a doctored version - and Haymitch did far more in his games than just discover a force field.
    We never here anything that happened in the games itself from Haymitch - only that his family and girlfriend were killed by the Capitol. We know the Capitol is more than willing to edit the games to look a certain way.
    They completely scrubbed Lucy Grey's games from the public as soon as it was over. Katniss even says in Catching Fire that they archived versions of the games are edited to feature the victors more and tell an "entertaining" story. And that they are the versions that are replayed constantly between live games.
    I always thought it seemed a bit extreme for them to murder his entire family just because he discovered the force field. Katniss does far worse, and they leave her family alone. I don't really think it's enough to say that Katniss's family was safe because the people of the Capitol were in love with her.
    I also reread the trilogy recently, and found it really interesting how Haymitch and Katniss's mother talk to each other when the Peacekeepers crack down in Catching Fire and Gale is whipped. They seem to have a moment where they see each other, having not really ever interacted - and Katniss's mum says "it's starting again". Plus you have Madge coming to the house with her mother's morphlin for Gale - something that is hard to come by and expensive in District 12. Katniss seems to be surprised and confused why she would do that. But the adults seem to understand what it means.
    There's just so much going on with that generation. They're all so connected, but so quiet and beaten down. It wouldn't surprise me if they were holding some serious secrets. Having no choice but to let the Capitol spew their propaganda.
    Also Susanne Collins wouldn't be writing about Haymitch's games if there wasn't something juicey there!

    • @mimikyumalt
      @mimikyumalt 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      YOUR MIND OMG I DIDNT EVEN CONSIDER HALF OF THIS

    • @bubblybobabubbles
      @bubblybobabubbles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      This also goes with what Suzanne said she wanted the theme to be: how the few rule the many with misinformation and propaganda.

    • @victoriacazottes8725
      @victoriacazottes8725 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      This is a possibility because I think Suzanne Collins said it would center around propaganda a lot more than the other books, so yeah I think the Capitol tempered with the videos from haymitch’s games

    • @leilayoung5001
      @leilayoung5001 15 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This is a really awesome theory because they completely wiped Lucy Grey's games from the vault because of how it showed the districts still in rebellion of the capitol. And because Haymitch is a strategist, they would want to downplay his smarts and how he outsmarted the capitol with their own tools. He outsmarted President Snow. We all know how much Snow hates to be beaten.

    • @bulagirl296
      @bulagirl296 9 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I came to see if anybody would have this theory!!! I agree wholeheartedly! We will be back in the games BECAUSE the version we are privy to is CAPITOL PROPAGANDA!!!!

  • @fumiiu
    @fumiiu 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +391

    I think Maysilee will be the "most stuck up girl in the town". Will make their bonding all the more meaningful and dramatic lolol

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +56

      ooh yeah he gets to know her better and she’s not that bad and then he loses her!! tragic but I love it

    • @f1nnick.f1lms
      @f1nnick.f1lms 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      agreed bc maysilee donner is madge’s mum’s twin sister and on the day of the 50th reaping we know that both katniss’s mother and madge’s mum were clinging to maysilee once her name gets pulled and if madge’s mum ends up marrying the mayor of 12 then they’re probably pretty rich (in district 12 standers) so one would assume that they lived in the merchant part of 12 (like katniss’s mum) there fore making her the “most stuck up girl in the town”

    • @laurajazmin720
      @laurajazmin720 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yes exactly because haymitch was from the seam and we know the other girl tribute was also from the seam it makes sense she was his close friend

    • @Razzberry_dollz
      @Razzberry_dollz ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@laurajazmin720 going make the movie version kinda suck because they’ll have to make him look merchant in it even though he should look seam

  • @leydiahedman6416
    @leydiahedman6416 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +289

    Okay maybe this is just me, but I also interpreted the bird and snake connection on the cover as being reminiscent of the bracelet he had in the second hunger games book 🤷‍♀️

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      ooh maybe we’ll see where he got it from?? 👀

    • @SimmyGreen_
      @SimmyGreen_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ooo what a good catch!

    • @Cakebraincat
      @Cakebraincat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Would be neat if he used to have a bracelet like what's on the cover, only to lose it in the games, and that's why Effie specifically got him a bangle later on to replace it.

    • @Ruth.I_S
      @Ruth.I_S หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The first thing I thought I saw on the cover was some kind of harp wit the crownspikes as strings. But I have no clue, how that would tie in and I love the bracelet idea

    • @Razzberry_dollz
      @Razzberry_dollz 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@meredithnovacowe know where effee got it for him

  • @heatherparisi8250
    @heatherparisi8250 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    I can’t really see Suzanne Collins not writing about a district 12 winner but I could be proven wrong

    • @victoriacazottes8725
      @victoriacazottes8725 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I think she could write about finnick and his life after him winning his games

    • @Razzberry_dollz
      @Razzberry_dollz 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @victoriacazottes8725tbh if we got that I’d wnat a trilogy sense I do wanna see finick reaping and games as well as his life after and maybe in the middle while he was too young to be used by snow

  • @LRCh_
    @LRCh_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

    Forgive me if I'm wrong, but as far as I remember, we never hear what actually happened in the arena from Hamitch, the guy who was there. Peeta and Katniss saw the recording of what was aired in Panem, meaning they only saw the curated storyline. We saw the "Starcrossed Lovers of District 12" version of his story. And the question of real or not real and the control of propaganda are what plague Suzanne Collins of late.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      yes exactly!!! I think she’s gonna play with this a lot!

    • @EllishaKriesl
      @EllishaKriesl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Yes! That's what I was thinking. You never hear anything about Haymitch's games from Haymitch himself - the only living person who was there. I always thought it was a bit extreme for the Capitol to murder his entire family just because he discovered the force field. And even stranger that they would then edit and distribute a version of the games that shows him journeying out to the edges of the arena and accidentally using the force field to win. There's got to be more to the story.

  • @Evelyn_Okay
    @Evelyn_Okay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +176

    1000% this is going to show how the underground rebellion begins. Girl! Did you forget what happens in the next Quarter Quell?
    Also, on the first cover, the bird is standing over the snake, while on the second cover, they're facing each other like they're about to fight. And if you look closely, you can see the snake's tail is becoming the bird.
    To me, it looks like an ouroboros, a snake eating its own tail, which is symbolic of self-destruction and rebirth.
    Meaning, Snow is going to start facing the consequences of his cruelty toward Haymitch and personally cause the rebellion to begin.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      yeah maybe this is where haymitch and plutarch meet and they start plotting the rebellion?? that’s a GREAT point on the snake eating its tail, I didn’t catch that!!

    • @poxidog
      @poxidog 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      Tigress. She in all the books she's been in is a good person. We know she works with the rebellion, but she's also part of snows personal family unit. Part of him betraying him

  • @CuriusGorg
    @CuriusGorg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +213

    omg I was waiting for your reaction to this lol hihi
    I've got a couple thoughts:
    1. Collins is gonna do a trilogy of prequels all with the snake and bird motif, and after haymitch we're gonna get finnick -- and all of the prequels are going to be tainted with Lucy Gray's imprint on the games. Like we'll see her songs or how performative the games get.
    2. We're gonna see Katniss's parents and get more insight into them -- we might even get to see mellark and hawthorne ancestors too?? (lol it would be funny if haymitch's girlfriend was peeta's aunt or smth)
    3. I don't think we'll see Lucy Gray return, but on the off chance that we do, we're gonna see how she parallells to Snow, like how the snake and the mockingjay are connected to eachother on the cover
    4. A detail that I haven't seen anyone talk about is how the gamemakers make the games leading up to the quarter quell more basic and less interesting to draw attention to their quarter quell arena. I wonder if we'll see Haymitch talk about that and compare it to the 49th games

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      Oooh I learned from my disrespect of Finnick in the mockingjay video that people love him a lot!! So it would be so cool to get a book from his perspective!
      I also love the idea of his girlfriend being the ancestor of someone we already know!!
      It’s gonna be SO fun I cannot believe we have to wait until March!!

    • @devinjohnson5582
      @devinjohnson5582 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I think if Lucy Gray or even her songs return we will see the origins of Avoxes.

    • @CuriusGorg
      @CuriusGorg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @devinjohnson5582 WAIT THATS REALLY SMART!! IF SNOW CAME UP WITH THE AVOXES AS PUNISHMENT FOR SINGING LUCY GRAY’S SONGS, THAT WOULD BE THE COOLEST DETAIL!! What if that’s what happens to Haymitch’s girlfriend 👀

    • @xgrossmann9913
      @xgrossmann9913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      That avox thing...dang that would explain it perfectly, such a horror move from snow. It really would make sense ​@@CuriusGorg

    • @rihanarock7215
      @rihanarock7215 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@devinjohnson5582Snow mentions avoxes already being around in song birds and snakes when he talks about them cleaning up trash. This would have been such a good theory though !!

  • @quinntribolet6593
    @quinntribolet6593 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +126

    I thought the spikes were the sun rays, like the SUNRISE

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      Ooh wait good point I totally missed that!!

    • @SimmyGreen_
      @SimmyGreen_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      the birth of the rebellion maybe??

    • @Jkreidell
      @Jkreidell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Correct, I’m pretty sure I saw something about that in the original synopsis!

    • @MoonStone_Empress
      @MoonStone_Empress 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@SimmyGreen_My headcannon has always been that Haymitch was supposed to be the first iteration of the Mockingjay, but whatever they did to him broke him too much to be useful. He eventually got to play his part with Katniss and Peeta.

  • @rachellee9279
    @rachellee9279 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    suzanne collins absolutely has her finger on the PULSE!!! a book about propaganda is so needed for young people. not sure if i believe collins would taint haymitch that way but meredith's theory about him possibly benefiting from compliance with the capitol would be a CRAZY thing to put out right now. personally i would be seated and attentive.

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Until further notice, I still think compliance = Finnick
      Disobedience = Johanna, Haymitch

  • @thedrunkenelf
    @thedrunkenelf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    What if Haymitch’s drinking is not a result of trauma/guilt from the games…what if it’s his trauma from falling for the capitals lies…what if the games are over in the first part of the book and then Haymitch becomes a celebrity in the capital and betrays everyone and eventually realises the truth and THAT’S why he drinks now because he hates himself for what he became temporarily…

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ooh this is a really cool theory!!! maybe it’s more guilt on stuff he’s done!

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Perhaps. But idkay:
      If I was relatively intelligent, and I let the hens into the fox den deliberately or not, I'd be messed up beyond repair for years like Haymitch.

  • @kittymagica6408
    @kittymagica6408 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +47

    That paperback is a Barnes and Noble exclusive. The regular paperback is still green. Though I do wonder if they'll go for a color change for this new ones paperback release or just have them all be purple.
    The mockingjay is Katniss's pin, which was given to her by her friend Madge, who's aunt died in the 50th hunger games. So the mockingjay on Sunrise Over the Reaping is very likely Madge's aunt. We might even find out how Madge's aunt got the pin herself.
    I do think Haymitch's girlfriend was killed. Changing it to where she lives feels like it would undermine Haymitch's emotional narrative in the core trilogy.
    I also think it's heavily implied in The Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes that Katniss is a descendant of Lucy's sister.

  • @patrickduff9629
    @patrickduff9629 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    When you were analyzing the cover art I thought you were going to mention the lines through the circle on the Catching Fire cover. The circle is segmented into 12 sections, like the clock arena in the book. It also symbolizes a ticking clock, like time running out for the Capitol. Didn't know if you knew this or forgot to mention. Liking the content, appreciate your videos!

  • @robinaguilar8949
    @robinaguilar8949 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    i speculate that if haymitch is the main character of sotr it's going to explore how going into the games without a mentor (since presumably he wouldnt have one since the only other victor is dead) and will likely continue beyond him winning the games and into his first mentorship. the songbird and snake being connected could represent how the district tributes are made into tools of the capitol's propoganda

  • @claudiasanchez8996
    @claudiasanchez8996 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    maybe the "young friend who's nearly a sister to him" is a daughter/decendent of lucy gray/covey since it seems like collins is putting hints of lucy gray in all the books.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      ooh such a fun idea!! I would love an update on lucy!!

  • @michellelamar8965
    @michellelamar8965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    ww all know it will be good.
    My inly obsession is that when they make the movie, as a tribute to Donald Sutherland, they HAVE to use his son Kiefer Sutherland (ICYDK, an excellent actor that looks a LOT like his dad) as president Snow. It just so happens that not inly does he look a lit like his dad, Kiefer is the EXACT age that Snow (having been 18 during the 10th hunger games) would be during the 50th. The casting is so perfect it is practically predestined.

    • @MCGreggy28
      @MCGreggy28 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@michellelamar8965 Yes! And this gives me an idea for a fan theory: Snow became president because he was the Ravinstill administration’s “designated survivor” for a major event (probably a banquet), and won’t you know it, the wine had gone bad.

    • @Jkreidell
      @Jkreidell 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤞 Keifer would be amazing! Definitely what I’m hoping for

  • @doofenshmirtzevilincafterhours
    @doofenshmirtzevilincafterhours 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    im pretty sad that it looks like there will be less of a focus on the aftermath of this one, I was hoping it would be haymitchs perspective of mentoring or just having to deal with the capitols control and killing his family and stuff, with flashbacks or some other rhetorical device to show parts of the games we hadn’t already seen. but I believe that Suzanne Collins can still make it work, im so excited!!

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean I could be wrong!! that all would be super cool so maybe she will still include it!! we shall see!

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Probably will. Because that's the thing about propa/ psy ops: it's meant to manipulate perceptions and incite people to do _____ (whatever that is).

  • @stevencooper6855
    @stevencooper6855 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a Hunger games fan. I want a short book from the perspective of Effie or maybe Cinna. Because I loved them but they don't have much of a chance to shine.

  • @manebarnanita5577
    @manebarnanita5577 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

    I am quite worried about this prequal. but also sooooo exited to be proven totally wrong and seem like a fool for ever underestemate queen suzanne collins.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      what’s worrying you?? think it might not be good?

    • @manebarnanita5577
      @manebarnanita5577 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      No, i guess i hoped it was a different main character to start (Mags, or beete or something) And i watched your video and really resonnated with some of those predictions (The video was great btw🌼) And i guess i feel like with everything that has been revealed about the book i sp different from what i thought she was gonna do and what i personally would have focused on and think is interesting. But i remeber distinctly being quite skeptical of the premise of ballad, but now that i have read i think it is genius (Because collins is a genius writer, duh). I just feel like if it had been like litrally any other author i would have been really worried for the quality. But this is suzann collins, she does not fuck around.
      (English is not my first langauge )
      (And english spelling makes no sense…)

  • @erincorcoran5936
    @erincorcoran5936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The way the snake and bird are connected almost make it look like a lyre. Theres always been an emphasis on the power of music in the books, so maybe there'll be a point where we see music used by both sides to manipulate the perspective around Haymitch's games.

  • @mariaalexander6667
    @mariaalexander6667 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I’m conflicted. At first I thought it might be about the game maker (purple cover, purple robes) I believed it could be Plutarch. Now I’m not sure, Haymitch is the obvious choice but, we have seen the perspective of a tribute before. Either way I already pre-order my book 😅

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      yeah I think the synopsis focuses too much on haymitch for it to be about anyone else!! but I could be wrong and I’d be excited for it to be plutarch!!

  • @elise2920
    @elise2920 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I immediately saw the cover as a harp personally, I have no clue where a harp would fit into Haymitchs story or what the symbolism for one would be so it could definitely be unintentional, but the shape is just so specifically harp-like, they could’ve done this same design without having it come into that specific shape….. hmmmm…… bard Haymitch…………

  • @arandominternetuser66
    @arandominternetuser66 4 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    We do know Maysilee teamed up with Haymitch during the 50th hunger games, but my guess is she's the 'most stuck up girl'. I mean, they only teamed up after she saved him, and I feel like if she was like a younger sister, I feel like she wouldn't phrase it as 'we'll last longer together', but more like 'you're super important to me and I want you to live as long as possible' or smth. Those are my guesses

  • @thnksfrthvnmx3719
    @thnksfrthvnmx3719 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Unrelated but I LOVE your couch. it's just so pretty and it goes with the art so well

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      thank you!!! ❤️

  • @caidwab
    @caidwab 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I would LOVE if the royal / purple is hinting twords Haymitch falling in love with a capitol woman and she’s who gets killed. Someone who never would have been hurt by the games if it weren’t specifically for him. Maybe at the ball where the tributes and their mentors ‘celebrate’ before the games. Would also be a cute parallel to the Haymitch / Effie ship

    • @xgrossmann9913
      @xgrossmann9913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      LIKE AN "FIRST EFFIE" like maybe that's why he always treated effie in such strange way, he never actually disliked her and they ended up being together...maybe she reminded him of his first love

  • @treyden
    @treyden 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Really love the idea of the record being wrong about the 50th games and the aftermath. It's something she's hinted at a lot and touched on with district 13 but never really explored deeply. I also think we'll get Haymitch's introduction to the rebellion. whether that's the founding or just him joining or maybe even him discovering and then rejecting will be fascinating to find out

  • @spencer7151
    @spencer7151 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I would still love it if the book is from Plutarchs perspective but I am not confident anymore... but it would make sense because he is described as part of one of the "royal" families in the capitol (hence the purple) and the snake and the bird on the cover could be interpreted as him combining both worlds. He comes from the capitol, so the snake is part of him but later (maybe because of Haymitch) he also learns to understand the side of the rebellion and he kind of represents both sides in one person...
    But honestly I am excited either way, I just think with Plutarch, there is such a great opportunity to explore a new perspective! 🤷🏻‍♀️
    But the synopsis is a little too much about Haymitch for my therory to be right... well we will see.
    Also sry if my English isn't the best, its not my first language...😅

    • @peacefulcreativity444
      @peacefulcreativity444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Your English is lovely, you are doing great.
      I can't say I'm super interested in Haymitch's story bc ("BeCause") it feels like we already know the gist of what happens to him. But Suzanne Collins does have a way of building such memorable characters around the protagonist, so I'm hoping that will make it incredible as usual.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah I would loveeee plutarch but I agree the synopsis is so haymitch focused it’s probably not likely :( but maybe!!

    • @burnt.norton
      @burnt.norton 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@peacefulcreativity444i completely agree tbh, like we got a whole run-down of his games and i feel like collins won’t be able to adapt any new ideas she might’ve thought of since writing catching fire (which was like a whole decade ago i think)

  • @geonunes10
    @geonunes10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    Having to make a spoiler alert for a trilogy that was out for over a decade and the main topic is about a book that you wouldn't be interested in if you haven't at least watched the movies shows how the internet has lost it.

    • @ItsAsparageese
      @ItsAsparageese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Your bar for "lost it" is ridiculously low. I'm still finishing the prequel book, and the books are very distinct from the movies, so I was grateful to see a specific spoiler warning so I could know this video wouldn't touch on anything I haven't been exposed to yet. Also, new people discover old media all the time (I wasn't into this franchise in any medium yet until just a couple of months ago, and kids haven't even been born yet who will discover these stories in the future). The world doesn't revolve around your personal experiences and timeframes-of-exposure to things. Getting judgy about thoughtful and cautious spoiler practices has to be one of the pettiest ways to spend your giveadamns, ffs, find a real problem

    • @geonunes10
      @geonunes10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @ItsAsparageese yeah, but it's not other people's responsibility to walk on eggshells not mentioning specific stuff in older movies, books, etc because you don't want to be told something. Try exercising some personal responsibility by avoiding videos that might include spoilers without the video creator having to spell it out to you and don't get mad with people if they accidentally tell you something because they assumed you've already watched/read something.
      First time I watched star wars original trilogy was over 20 years after it was out due to my age, I went in knowing about the whole "I am your father" thing because it was impossible not to by then partially because people were way less sensitive about spoilers back then and it didn't ruin the experience for me.

    • @ItsAsparageese
      @ItsAsparageese 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@geonunes10 Obviously it's not their responsibility. Nobody's saying it's on that important a level. But it is a really helpful and effortless COURTESY. Your priorities suck and so does your attitude, I'm sincerely sorry about whatever negativity in your life motivates you to be this snotty about a total non-issue. Cheers

    • @bubblybobabubbles
      @bubblybobabubbles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@geonunes10 Dude, its some text in a corner. Its called being thoughtful, just in case. Why is some text such a big deal to you lol ???

    • @geonunes10
      @geonunes10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @bubblybobabubbles The point I'm making is, if it's a discussion about a piece of media it should be obvious that there will be details about said medium and the viewer should assume there will be spoilers by themselves and the content creator shouldn't need to break the flow of their video to spell it out.
      At the end of the day it's a position of people should take more personal responsibility on what videos they click on and think a little before doing so

  • @g.e.t.w.e.l.l.s.o.o.n
    @g.e.t.w.e.l.l.s.o.o.n 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    OKAY, HEAR ME OUT-- what if Haymithch's girlfriend never died. What if she was hijacked like Peeta, except all of her memories of Haymitch are gone. Haymitch now has to watch the love of his life live on without him like nothing ever happened-- because to her (after being hijacked), Haymitch never existed, she never loved him, and they never shared their lives together. I think watching someone you love so deeply and initmately live without knowing you ever existed just might be cruler than execution. Haymitch has to live with this, and he drinks to forget because every time he remembers, it feels like he is dying over and over and over again.
    I don't think Suzanne Collins would leave something as lethal and useful as hijacking alone when it can be used for such a HUGE plot twist.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      WOAHHHHH that would be so cool and tragic 😭😭😭 I hope in my heart that you’re wrong for haymitchs sake but I think you’re onto something here!!

  • @EllishaKriesl
    @EllishaKriesl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Placing my bet now that the book ends with sun rising on the reaping day of Haymitch's first tribute. Opens with a reaping day to a rebellious Haymitch, closes with a reaping day of a completely broken and demorallised Haymitch.

  • @ruby7226
    @ruby7226 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the thing is that we don't know exactly how haymitch's game went down... in the original trilogy, katniss only saw what aired on tv. and we know they cut out a lot of things on tv...

  • @dominiclewis698
    @dominiclewis698 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m convinced its going to be a split perspective between haymitch and a career

  • @laurenhohnholt7337
    @laurenhohnholt7337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I don’t think it’s meant to, but the cover kinda looks like a lyre as well

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Oh I didn’t even see that you’re so right!! I’ll have to brush up on my greek mythology before the book comes out so I don’t miss any symbolism with that!!

    • @futuristicgirl14
      @futuristicgirl14 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Maybe it’s a reference to Orpheus and Eurydice? Because Haymitch and Maysilee part ways and he goes back for her and she’s dead?

    • @ti1634
      @ti1634 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@futuristicgirl14 oooomg why did you just cook like that 🔥

  • @peacefulcreativity444
    @peacefulcreativity444 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You look sooo much like a girl that I used to work with who I sentimentally wanted to be BFFs with but didn't know how to ask to hang out more often and I changed jobs, so we lost touch lol
    It's so surreal I had to double check your name but she has a different name haha. If I ever see her again at that place or through mutual friends I'm definitely going to share your video with her. She's also a reader.
    I never noticed all the symbolism in the book covers. I noticed the birds but not the designs around them! That's amazing. I think what I'm most looking forward to is how Snow reacts and handles the entire situation, and also getting a view on HOW Haymitch managed to "win" against that many people, and what it does to him after it's over.
    The cover of Sunrise on the Reaping initially makes me feel like a depiction of how both Snow and Lucy Gray established the ongoing style of the Hunger Games, and because of that, it spread this dual mentality to the citizens of Panem, including the district people. It's a society that is at war with itself constantly, and whoever fights against either side, is practically fighting themselves, because they are both dependent on one another. It even reminds me of Yin and Yang because there is a little bit of snake in everyone, really. Kind of like what Dr. Gaul in the movie was saying about how when in the arena, a human instinct to survive comes out and even the most well-mannered and well-educated boy can become a killer who bashes another boy's head in to continue living.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      WAIT that’s so funny I will tell you Meredith is my first name but my legal last name is different so if you knew a Meredith that looks like me with a different last name it probably is me…
      also I LOVE your thoughts here, someone else was mentioning the snake eating itself imagery, the oppressors and the oppressed in one being, it’s super interesting!!

  • @Raetheforce
    @Raetheforce 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    Not that it matters, but my paperback of Songbirds and Snakes was also green! I wonder if the dark purple was a special edition.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Oh maybe?? Wait let me check my copy lmao maybe I got a special one??

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      okay I checked my copy and it doesn’t say it’s a special edition but that’s fascinating that there’s two covers?? mine also does have discussion points at the end so maybe it is a special one and it just doesn’t say?

    • @Ada-fz9ug
      @Ada-fz9ug 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@meredithnovacoit’s apparently a Barnes and Nobel exclusive

  • @dani.mp4777
    @dani.mp4777 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    i am SOOOOO pumped for this book omg and it comes out a few days before my bday so it's like a little bday present lol

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      aww that’ll be so fun!!

  • @bubblybobabubbles
    @bubblybobabubbles 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I've seen a lot of people speculate that the Capitol essentially censored his Hunger Games. Maybe part of the not falling in line that got his family killed, besides whatever happened in the Games themselves, was that he kept trying to share the truth the Capitol wanted to hide, and killing his family was them shutting him up. Would go with the propaganda theme imo

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Or this! This too would make sense. I immediately go to a Joanna/ Finnick type fate, except Haymitch was made a mentor. Haymitch might've tried to tell the truth, and they killed his family for it. He might've even come up with a song for it, or something else.

  • @dancingsun2
    @dancingsun2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    After reading what the creator of the cover had to say about it, I'm so glad the songbird and snake symbolism is continuing. It connects SOTR to Ballad, and with the idea of the same source can be the cause for 2 opposite sides, I'm feeling like we'll see a lot more of Snow in this novel than we did in the og trilogy novels.

  • @msCandelicius
    @msCandelicius 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ngl I'm really happy this book is form Haymitch perspective because he's one of my favorite characters and being completely honest, the most interesting moments to me happen inside the arena. Not the battle stuff but I like how the author writes about the desperation

  • @StephSutton
    @StephSutton 3 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I think that the stuck up girl is maysilee, because if she was his childhood friend, wouldn’t they have teamed up to start with? And also, when they became ally’s it was as if they barely knew each other, and it wasn’t exactly a happy reunion. But that does leave us with a very important unanswered question, if maysilee wasn’t his friend, who was and what happened to her that was so bad they couldn’t show it on the tapes Katniss and Peeta watched, witch could imply that the tapes were doctored, and there is lots more to the story than the capitol is letting on. I could be wrong but that is what I thought.

  • @lariel19
    @lariel19 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I would love to see how Haymitch tries to navigate himself through the life of a mentor and seeing his tributes die. Maybe that’s where the propaganda can be mentioned, he sees firsthand how the Capitol and the sponsors act like and how they truly think about the tributes and their districts.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yeah that’s a good thought, maybe we get some of his time as a mentor??

  • @charicliakaravanas7636
    @charicliakaravanas7636 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Maybe since there is no mentor for district 12, he and the others are given a capital mentor, but the mentor is a rebel sympathizer and coaches Haymitch to break the games (thinking that if he’ll either succeed and begin the revolution or die with the plan still a secret) but costs Haymitch his family and love. the book could follow how Haymitch learns that he must fall in line and perpetuate the capital propaganda and plot the rebellion in secret, even when there’s supporters hiding everywhere. idk.

  • @sisterazjahnah
    @sisterazjahnah หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay…Good point about the cover- hadn’t thought about that but about the title I definitely think that Katniss’ father is going to make an appearance especially since Katniss has a habit of getting up early due to hunting. Maybe her father was a friend or acquaintance of Haymitch. Good point about the Captital maybe getting mixed up with Haymitch’s girlfriend- maybe it’s Effie?!? Suzanne Collins can literally continually make a living off the Hunger Games franchise based on the fact that she has left so much covered. Glad I discovered this video and channel😊

  • @dragon185d
    @dragon185d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i think we will get a lot of what happens before the games, but most importantly after. we'll see how haymitch was affected by his games, how he lost everything to win and now has had everything taken away from him by the capitol. he might be used to kind of make messages and act like he supports the capitol or something, but i think it would be really interesting to see how haymitch makes the decision to fight against the capitol and become a rebel

    • @dragon185d
      @dragon185d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      oh, and additionally- if i remember correctly, the synopsis on my copy of catching fire was largely centered on the victory tour and katniss trying to stamp out rebellion, while that didn't take up too much time in the actual book. so i'm not sure if the "before reaping" section will take up a huge majority (it'll probably be a larger part than his actual games/the preparations for them, anyway)

  • @ShelbyTeach07
    @ShelbyTeach07 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Maybe we'll get more Lucy Gray lore in this book, or at least a cameo

  • @EvaZuckerman16
    @EvaZuckerman16 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think the bird and the snake are supposed to represent the duality of human nature.

  • @atomicgoblin
    @atomicgoblin 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My immediate knee jerk when seeing the new cover was "that looks an awful lot like a torc" which brings a whole new world of symbolism to the table...

  • @isabellamccann7395
    @isabellamccann7395 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I had the idea, since the angle is propa:
    Haymitch tries to tell the truth about everything on Caesar's show, but he's made out to look like a lunatic.

  • @readaholicgirl_5
    @readaholicgirl_5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I wonder who is their mentor? Cuz by now this would be 40 years since Lucy won her games so there ARE 39 mentors in 11 other districts, so all the tributes are at least 1, but 12 doesn't. So who does the mentoring since it's probably seen as a low job position from the Capital. And after Haymitch wins, HE is the new (and only) mentor for district 12 for the next 24 years.

    • @xgrossmann9913
      @xgrossmann9913 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm pretty sure he is not gonna get a mentor...MAYBE Plutarch can be his mentor. MAYBE Suzanne will show us how they met, become friends, started trusting one another and planned the rebellion...Idk

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Two victors counting Haymitch, yeah? One's presumed dead.

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And of course it's a low job in their eyes. It's 12, like the costumes.

  • @subbuwubbu4849
    @subbuwubbu4849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i think because the recording of the game that katniss watched in the second book was heavily edited and filtered by the capitol, we might get a lot of scenes in the arena that they didn’t include/televise to the public. they try to erase any proof of rebellion from their history, like they covered up what happened with district 13 etc. and at the beginning of the first book katniss seems to not know anything about a rebellion or anything so i guess they did a good job. so maybe we’ll get to see more about the lengths the capitol will go to in order to cover things up and not let a hint of the idea, that the capitol can be brought down, out to the public

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Stock footage, like 13. Good point. Which still begs the question: what else happened there?

  • @looroll9393
    @looroll9393 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This isnt even quite a theroy or anything but I am p sure that at some point in this career corio made sure that Maude Ivory was picked for the hunger games and I think there might be confirmation of this in the book. Amazing video btw lovely x

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Thank you!! I think Maude ivory would be too old at this point bc it’s been 40 years since songbirds and snakes but maybe it’s her kids?

    • @CMThota
      @CMThota 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@meredithnovaco Could Maude and Maysilee be related? Or is that too much of a stretch

    • @swahgcat
      @swahgcat 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@meredithnovacocould be that she got reaped in a games in a previous year when she was younger and someone in the book talks about it, I think it’s unlikely though

    • @atlaskat7980
      @atlaskat7980 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Maude Ivory is Katniss' grandma imo. Neither she nor Katniss' dad were reaped. Maude Ivory was the only other person who heard Lucy Gray's song, about the hanging tree, so she was probably the one to teach Katniss' dad. Maude Ivory was way younger than everyone else so her age works for being Katniss' dad's mother.

    • @dragon185d
      @dragon185d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@CMThota honestly i think maude and katniss might be related through their father, especially since both katniss and maude can remember songs after just hearing it once or twice and the fact katniss knows covey songs. i feel like that's more likely of a family line than maysilee, but we'll see in the book!

  • @joanpalmer9067
    @joanpalmer9067 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    To be honest, I feel like I prefered your theory better than it looks like it will be. Maybe it is just that what I imagine the book to be about is not what it will actually be, but who knows.
    Also, thank you for commenting it, as I am completely the most oblivious person ever and I definitely did not receive this info until now

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Haha same I somehow completely missed the cover announcement 😅 but yeah honestly I do wish I was right, I wish we got a different perspective but I do still have faith that Suzanne Collins is going to make the most of it!!

    • @joanpalmer9067
      @joanpalmer9067 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @meredithnovaco completely agree. She has proven that we can trust her writing and storytelling!

  • @Anonymouse547
    @Anonymouse547 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a feeling that haymitch does something the capital doesn’t like and the reaping gets rigged so that’s hes picked

  • @istan21
    @istan21 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My interpretation is that the snake and songbird is the two sides of Haymitch and that the spikes maybe symbolizes he has to pick one side. The color maybe refers to the fear and anxiety Haymitch is gonna feel throughout this book and the circle maybe hints at him breaking or setting something up in the capital that will slowly destroy it? Idk it’s my wish.

  • @morganer5378
    @morganer5378 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Maybe the title meaning is we gonna have a update on Haymitch story at every reaping as a mentor. I would like to see this end on Peeta and Katniss Reaping day.

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      OHHHH THIS IS SUCH A COOL IDEA I hope!!!!

  • @Strawlighte
    @Strawlighte 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Omg so excited to read this! I feel like the royal purple theme on the front could be related to Maisilee being from the higher class in 12

  • @octaviablackthorn9
    @octaviablackthorn9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Could we see some of the games following his own? By the time of the 75th Games Haymitch had accepted that all his tributes would die. We could see more 12 tributes come and go over the years as Haymitch descends further into alcoholism and acceptance for the games.
    I doubt it would go that way but might be interesting nonetheless.

  • @MadChips202
    @MadChips202 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cover wise of the first prequel I think it just depends on where you live for which print you got. Where I got mine there was only the green print for both paper back and hard cover. I got a paper back because my other hunger games books are paper backs and mine is green

  • @Twinkdoesdrag
    @Twinkdoesdrag 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i just watched a fifteen minute video about a book cover for something im never gonna read lol

  • @MCGreggy28
    @MCGreggy28 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Something I’ve never considered before: who mentored Haymitch and Maysilee?

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      oh good point, maybe they just assigned someone at random?

    • @beckyvdplaat4854
      @beckyvdplaat4854 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      or no one, i think the capitol is cruel enough to do that, send the kids in blindly with no help, which could be what Haymitch is saying that he "has been set up to fail"

  • @percyjacksonfanatic
    @percyjacksonfanatic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i was listening to this and my brain just randomly jumped to a theory that i just made up on the spot. i thought that maybe his gf escaped to 13 then my brain just randomly said that his gf could be coin
    im aware of allthe plot holes this would have but we still have the lucy grey is coin theory but who knows...
    WAIT WHAT IF HAYMITCHES GF WAS LUCY GREYS SISTER/COUSIN/WHATEVER MAUDE IVORY

  • @Septic-Hearts
    @Septic-Hearts 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would like if the book went into some detail about Haymitch as a mentor, maybe provided some insight. I mean, I know there's only so much to say about seeing some unspeakable things done to the kids you mentor every year, but still, I wouldn't be surprised if this book describes how the tone was set for future reapings and games in some way.

  • @angelicaleipert1031
    @angelicaleipert1031 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone remember “Plutarch’s underground” from mockingjay ??? I have a sneaking suspicion we’re gonna learn more about that in this next book

  • @contentdeleted3198
    @contentdeleted3198 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I feel the spikes will come up as something more. Look close at the catching fire bird. The mockingjay is in the clock arena. the arena now is going to be crazy much like the clock as it is a quarter quell. An open grassy field with flowers, a paradise. Yet everything is poisonous. (Most likely a symbol to the Capitol.)
    But there was also a volcano and i think there was a quick flood. So it could be a part of the arena. Like the volcano and mtn range could he the first thing he sees

  • @sim771
    @sim771 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It’s my birthday today 🎉 this is great upload timing 🤩🥳🥰

    • @kyndramb7050
      @kyndramb7050 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Happy Birthday!!🎉

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      HAPPY BIRTHDAYYY!!! Hope you have an amazing day!! ❤️❤️

  • @junhee.ccৎ
    @junhee.ccৎ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Waitt what if the royal purple is hinting at a captiol citizen’s perspective and the bird and the snake who are connecting ( the snake means the capitol citizen bc of the loyalty and the bird means haymitch bc of his hope and such) they understand eachother and slowly become friends then lovers. And the spikes mean hope is slowly rising between them . EEE I HOPE THIS BOOK IS HAYFFIE CODED !! ( was talking abt effie as the captiol citizen)

  • @TheTorturedTributesDepartment
    @TheTorturedTributesDepartment 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What’s weird is my paper back is green?

  • @bellanance5332
    @bellanance5332 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The bird/snake symbol on the new book looks kind of like a lyre, a musical instrument used in Ancient Greece. There might be an interesting or underlying musical aspect to this book

  • @allangochin3760
    @allangochin3760 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I thought the circle could represent the break in the forcefield since in the games he realize the forcefield surronded the arena and it reflected objects. semi breeaking or interferring with the capitol before capitol destroyed the arena upon realizing

  • @michaelodonnell824
    @michaelodonnell824 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    A couple of thoughts...
    When I first saw the crown, I immediately thought of the crown they put on the Victors. As far as we are aware, it is the only crown in Panem...
    We know that in the book Haymitch was Seam and that Maysilee Donner was Merchant and that relationships between Seam and Merchant were unusual, if Madge's mother was the actual love interest, wouldn't that imply that Maysilee was the "like a sister" tribute rather than the more obvious "most stuck up" tribute...
    Finally, Suzanne Collins is more than willing to use unreliable narrative voices, and while in "Catching Fire" we apparently got a rundown of these "Games", we also know that the Gamemakers "edit" the footage to tell the population of Panem a story - so what if the story they chose to tell, the story the fans are aware of, is fundamentally different from what actually happened to Haymitch, Maysilee and the rest of the District 12 tributes?

    • @isabellamccann7395
      @isabellamccann7395 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Of course it is different. Question is how.

  • @Razzberry_dollz
    @Razzberry_dollz 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The book is probably going be like BOSAS where it split in 3 sections
    Pre games and prep
    During the games
    And post games
    The games probably being one of the smaller sections
    The propaganda being most the post games and maybe pre games too

  • @ericblainerasmussen8722
    @ericblainerasmussen8722 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Crown? Rays from the sun...Sunrise on the Reaping.

  • @thedrunkenelf
    @thedrunkenelf 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I haven’t been this excited for a book release since Harry Potter

  • @milestrombley1466
    @milestrombley1466 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's cool the author is expanding her world.

  • @samial
    @samial หลายเดือนก่อน

    my thoughts on the book covers after watching this video:
    1. You pointed out the two circles pinning the mockingjay as being representative of the Capitol, which made me think why 2 circles to represent one entity? But throughout the series we see it is not just the Capitol trying to manipulate Katniss and use her image for propaganda, but also the rebel forces and specifically District 13/President Coin. The second circle is also more prominent on the cover of Catching Fire than The Hunger Games, showing how the rebel forces make their presence known in the second book. Finally there is a 3rd ring around the mockingjay itself, which starts as a gold ring surrounded by disjointed gray lines, becomes a solid closed ring of a clockface directly connected to the “Capitol” and “rebel” circles, and then finally shatters breaking both connections on the cover of Mockingjay.
    If the mockingjay represents Katniss/the tribute themselves, then we could interpret the ring surrounding them as the “means of control” that is used by the Capitol (and at times the rebels) to manipulate the tributes (and victors). This could represent the things they care about that can be threatened such as loved ones, but it could also represent the Hunger Games and the arena itself, or the segregation and poor conditions of the Districts.
    2. Going off of that interpretation for the original trilogy, we see that Songbirds and Snakes features one strong circle radiating outwards, and a mostly solid but fragile-looking gold circle formed by the tree branch enclosing a bird and a snake. The bird is positioned above the snake with its head above the branches but looks up and away, while the snake is also partially outside the circle and its eyes appear to be trained on the bird. I think this imagery represents the solidifying of the Capitol’s power (the radiating circles), the early stages of the Games (the fragile and barren tree branch that can’t fully contain the snake *or* the bird), and the relationship between Snow and Lucy Gray (the bird taking center stage and looking to the sky as if about to take flight, and the snake in the background carefully watching the bird).
    3. Finally moving on to Sunrise on the Reaping, we have a single fragmented circle, the bottom 1/4 of which is eclipsed by the conjoined body of the snake and the bird. The spikes rising up behind the bird/snake hybrid suggest the image of a crown as well as rays of sunlight. Furthermore, the bird and the snake are not only connected as one being, but directly facing one another in apparent hostility.
    At first I thought that the disjointed circle on this cover might be the one representing the rebel forces, but I actually think it makes much more sense for it to be that third circle around the mockingjay which earlier I called the “means of control”. I think that the crown imagery is meant to represent the Victor’s crown, and that we will get to see how the Victors of the games are controlled and used by the Capitol, possibly even getting some snapshots of Haymitch trying and failing to mentor future tributes. In fact I think the title “Sunrise on the Reaping” might not refer to just Haymitch’s reaping, but to all the reapings which occurred after where he was now a mentor. And I do think that you were right about the snake and the bird representing two parts of Haymitch in conflict, the one that wants to fight back and the one that wants to take advantage of the benefits offered to a victor who “plays along”or “puts on a good show.”The snake could also possibly represent Snow again, but I think that’s unlikely as the conjoined body suggests that one of them attacking would mean injuring itself in the process, and I don’t see how Haymitch could hold that kind of power over Snow, unless there really is some massive secret that was covered up that Haymitch could potentially reveal.
    But in general I think that with the crown, the purple coloring, and the fact that the crown itself can be seen as actually making up a portion of the circle representing “control,” means we will get a lot of insight in this book as to how the role of victor/mentor is really just another piece of the games, and how the elevation of victors to royalty-like status serves to both keep them in line and alienate them from their fellow District citizens. And knowing what we know now about Snow’s connection to District 12, the fact that Haymitch’s loved ones were killed, and that the Games have progressed far enough for victors to be viewed as celebrities, I think we can assume that Snow was particularly upset that the winner came from District 12 in the most hyped up Games since the 25th. I wouldn’t even be surprised if Snow was so furious at Haymitch winning that he promised to rig the games so that District 12 would never win again, adding some meaning to Haymitch’s defeatism when he tells Katniss and Peeta that there is “nothing he can do to save them.” (by this point Snow would have already proved his ability to rig the games by killing off promising tributes from 12, and he’d believe Haymitch so drunk and docile that he’d have stopped putting so much effort into crushing any hope for District 12, leading to Katniss and Peeta slipping through the cracks). It’s even possible that Snow was *already* rigging the games against 12 during the 2nd Quarter Quell, but that Haymitch somehow outsmarted him.
    I also think this means we are likely to get a third prequel book related to the formation of the rebel group. I have seen many people suggesting Plutarch as a potential POV and I think he would be the perfect candidate if I’m right about this part!
    (I know this is all super over-analyzed, but as soon as you started talking about the book covers I couldn’t help it! Even if it turns out to be wrong it was fun to theorize about 😅)

    • @samial
      @samial หลายเดือนก่อน

      okay adding on to an already insanely long comment cause i just cannnnt stop thinking about it lmao but a few more details on the new cover:
      the dual imagery of the sunrise/crown and the snake/bird goes crazy. its body forms part of the circle which encloses it, which means one half needs to be severed in order for the other to be free. but doing so would also break the sunrise/crown image. If Haymitch chooses to rebel, he can no longer wear the victors crown (reap the benefits of the Capitol). If he chooses to play the game, he’ll never see the sun rise (hope for a brighter future post-rebellion).
      Also the way the snake’s body fits much more smoothly into the circle/crown shape than the bird, and the way that the snake on the cover of Songbirds and Snakes was coiled around and almost blended in with the tree branches symbolizing the games/arena. I don’t think it’s an accident that the bird/snake figure is so lopsided. With the snake having previously represented Snow, and the biblical idea of a snake as the devil whispering lies to you, I think it’s meant that the bird is moreso the “real” Haymitch, which has had its body twisted and mutilated into a snake (i.e., falling under Snow’s direct influence/control) due to winning the games.
      sorry for rambling so much in these comments but good god i am just SO excited for this book thinking abt the possibilities

  • @storytimewithsushi9533
    @storytimewithsushi9533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OKAY so I just finished my reread of mockingjay for preparation for the new book, and I had a crazy theory. WHAT IF, since the book ends with Katniss, Peeta and their kids in 12 (Haymitch came back with them remember?), we start with the children asking Haymitch about his time in the games, maybe because the girl learned about it in school, and the book is Haymitch telling them what happened 🤯🤯🤯 might be a little bit of a stretch, but I thought it would be an idea for the kids to ask their uncle haymitch about it.

    • @storytimewithsushi9533
      @storytimewithsushi9533 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also with the snake and bird intertwining on the cover… what if Haymitch is Lucy Gray and Snow’s grandkid?? HAYMITCH HAS BLONDE HAIR AND BLONDE HAIR ISNT COMMON IN TWELVE REMEMBER

  • @bethbeth
    @bethbeth 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don’t have anything solid, but the sunrise on the reaping cover is kinda giving ouroboros, which might represent the cyclical nature of the games but instead of the snake eating itself, the snake and the bird are in conflict. For the spikes in the middle of the cover, I’m thinking because it’s a quarter quell it’s like a bigger deal/more fancy? Idk just rambling 😅

  • @universalgames2901
    @universalgames2901 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not sure why, but I feel like the bird and the snake are supposed to represent Haymitch and Maysilee. And them essentially teaming together until the end.

  • @sytmor
    @sytmor 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    WOOOO YEAHHHH THIS IS MY FIRST TIME HEARING THAT IT IS ABOUT HAYMITCH WOOOO YAY

  • @Razzberry_dollz
    @Razzberry_dollz 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The only spikes were like mazzelee darts and the candy gloss pink birds
    The arena was a poison paradise
    Beautiful and deadly

  • @awa__phella2035
    @awa__phella2035 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Purple is the gamemakers color , could be about propaganda and how much rebels and capitol are similar , and so maybe have a Plutarch point of view

  • @c.a.bforeva3319
    @c.a.bforeva3319 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My paperback of TBOSAS is green

  • @hmnuladno
    @hmnuladno 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah, there is also a possibility, that the book name alludes to ALL reapings, Haymitch went through, until the one, that became a sunrise to the revolution, there Katniss showed up
    and, it can show not only Haymitch being "the snake and the bird" at the same time, but "the snake transforming into bird"? since they are placed on a cover in that "order"?..
    I see no problem in trying to question the known truth (we can see in this book, how officials manipulates the story into some narrative all the time) and even to getting something wrong, because it is not a serious predictions, but just having fun speculating and basically imagining a fanfiction in your head!

  • @sayakne
    @sayakne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My paperback version of TBOSAS is green.

  • @pipdavidson6965
    @pipdavidson6965 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m into the theory that the Capitol got the wrong girl and Haymitch’s love interest lives-especially with how immediately sympathetic he was with Katniss when he tells he she’s never going to have to stop pretending with Peeta
    Another thought: i can’t imagine a world where Suzanne Collins doesn’t focus on the fact that good propaganda can influence any of us. No one is immune the propaganda. I think we may see a Haymitch who doesn’t think the games are a big deal, and that Maysilee radicalizes him. I think we may get an anti-social-justice-warrior Haymitch lol

  • @3cuaBabii
    @3cuaBabii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My paperback is green.

  • @keena0huesby
    @keena0huesby 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love the deep dive!!!

  • @SimmyGreen_
    @SimmyGreen_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    such interesting takes!! what if the crown represents someone in power who doesn’t believe in the hunger games, a people’s princess if you will (the common theme to me in the series) and she is the only thing that stands between the two sides of haymitch? idk though ig we shall see 😂🤞🏽

  • @OGK-1414
    @OGK-1414 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I liked your analysis about the book covers. 😊

  • @Apollo9898LP
    @Apollo9898LP 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do think the crown may be meant to be sunbeams, a la the title "Sunrise on the Reaping"

  • @miminy9344
    @miminy9344 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My paperback version of tbosas was green like the hardcover

  • @timmystitch55
    @timmystitch55 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I pre ordered my copy an im taking the day off to read it

  • @LittleBlueSand
    @LittleBlueSand 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The ukelele 😂

  • @ThePersephoneDiggen
    @ThePersephoneDiggen หลายเดือนก่อน

    7:00 I thought the bird would be about Haymitch and the Snake would be about Snow

  • @liamroberts2576
    @liamroberts2576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    GOD DAMN IT I’m just as wrong as you girl 😂❤😅

    • @meredithnovaco
      @meredithnovaco  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      it’s okay at least we’re wrong together 😭

  • @LE-zy2od
    @LE-zy2od 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Is it a crown or a sun??

  • @Kay_Alexis7
    @Kay_Alexis7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the symbols from the movies so much better

  • @nelsongonzales1263
    @nelsongonzales1263 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’m so excited about this book it’s not even funny, I love these books and movies so much

  • @KatrinaM1234
    @KatrinaM1234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Conspiracy theory, sure I'm wrong. Hamach is Lucy Gray and Snow's son. Or one of the other tributes.

  • @tattannaknight2193
    @tattannaknight2193 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    HAHA THE UKELELE