Assassin's Creed Crossover Stories - Valhalla Analysis (Kassandra, Apple of Eden, Modern Day)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ค. 2024
- Today we are brining you our full story analysis of the Valhalla portion of the recent Assassin’s Creed Crossover Event, so spoiler alert if you haven’t played it already!
In the video we are going to analize the encounter between Eivor and Kassandra, including the lore details connected to the Hidden Ones, their hunt for the Apple of Eden hidden within a vault located in the Isle of Skye, the appearance of a hologram when it was activated and the unexpected Modern Day documents that can be found while playing the quest.
We are also going to have a look at some lighter topics like the wedding scene at the end of the quest, an Isu map that features an X that marks the spot, some markings that don’t really seem to be Isu Language, some non canonical weapons and way more!
CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
01:19 Context and Start of the Quest
02:25 Meeting Kassandra
03:41 Kassandra's Relations with the Hidden Ones
04:32 Where is the Pieces of Eden Map Really Pointing?
05:19 The Hunt for the Apple of Eden
06:13 Why Isn't Kassandra Wielding the Staff?
07:15 Eivor's Annoying Lack of Isu Knowledge
08:31 The Isu Stone Formation and Language
10:10 The "X Marks the Spot" Isu Map
10:54 The Isle of Skye Vault
13:07 The Hunt for the Five Shards
13:48 The Spear of Eden in Valhalla
15:42 The (Isu?) Symbols on the Spear
16:18 Kassandra's and Aletheia's Secret Dialogue
17:09 Entering the Isle of Skye Vault
18:38 The Apple of Eden and the Mysterious Hologram
19:38 More Trivia in the Isle of Skye Vault
20:38 The Wedding Scene
21:47 The Modern Day Documents
24:41 Outro
SOURCES
Kassandra - Randvi Pictures by Legionario098, u/TheFirstDogSix, Haliloo Gaming: forums.ubisoft.com/showthread... ; / new_acv_trailer_that_c... ; • Mirror Mirror on the W...
Assassin’s Creed 2 Pieces of Eden map via the Assassin’s Creed Wiki: assassinscreed.fandom.com/wik...
Fairy Glen picture © hamze.beati via Rove.me: rove.me/it/to/scotland/fairy-...
Layla’s Document picture by u/Elly_White: imgur.com/a/sa5WhE5
Eivor and Kassandra Renders via the Assassin’s Creed Wiki: assassinscreed.fandom.com/wik... and assassinscreed.fandom.com/wik...
Animus Host definition as “opposite of Animus Subject” via Assassiiinuss: / assassiiinuss
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The fact that the quest can be done at settlement level 4 tells me that it's supposed to be done before Eivor has any of those experiences with isu technology. If they would get off this trend of making all dlc available to anyone no matter how far into the story they are, they could actually move the narrative forward some more.
It's also power level 55 so it's set after East Anglia
@@craftingranger7552 So before Vinland, that would also explain why Eivor decided not to open the vault and leave the Apple with Indians. But, knowing the apple could be so dangerous, it is really dumb of her just leaving it in their hands...
made for casual degens who find "normal" difficulty hard and gearing system of Odessey "too confusing". Modern gaming caters to morons.
10:33 kassandra has the eagle vision. Poseidon said so at the begininng of fate of atlantis episode 3, when he was talking about the sixth : "And no, i'm not talking about your eagle vision" Cit.
What if that was just due to Alethia's simulation? What if, in the real Isu version of events where Alethia is the Dikastes, Posiden is talking to Alethia and referring to her Eagle Vision.
@@jeremyw.5729 aletheia Is a pure isu. She was Born with the sixth sense. Poseidon words make sense only if he was speaking with kassandra
@@killergandalf He was referring to her Athena's sight scan ability, but he didn't know what to call it since Athena didn't exist yet.
He could also have been referring Kass using Ikaros which marks stuff in the environment, even though that's not what the lore refers to it as.
@@jeremyw.5729 that Is also a manifestation of her Eagle vision.
There are different forms and variations (like the Eagle sense of Ezio or Arno. Connor's daughter in the comic can also control animals like we do with icaros and that happens when She use her Eagle vision)
The Athena thing dosen't make sense because Poseidon knows Minerva (Tinia Is his Brother After all). Also in the simulation the isu knows the greek mitology. That's because the simulation use kassandra knowledge to make her understand more easily the isu society.
(imho all' that part was really bad because we cannot understand when the simulation ends and when aletheia Memories begins)
@@killergandalf That was the biggest question, but I think Alethia performed a similar role in Atlantis as Kass, albeit using different methods than slaughtering enemies.
I theorized on Reddit that she left the city quite some time before the last cycle ended (the TC), took the staff of Hermes with her, and reached Utgard and becomes Angrboda.
I also think Loki uploaded her into the staff during Ragnarok sometime after Odin and others leave the Ygdrasil room, as she was badly injured during the final battles.
This is the biggest issue with Valhalla's DLC contents, they are not placed specifically anywhere in the timeline, and thus Eivor can have very inconsistent reactions and outlooks on ISU technology. I'd assume the reason Eivor here is ignorant is because this DLC specifically is unlocked right after you build Valka's hut in the settlement, and thus, that is the canonical time this takes place, i.e. before most of the main story.
Yeah that's the issue pretty much summed up. In order to make every experience available as soon as possible to everyone, they always have to start with the character as a clean slate, otherwise that might spoil events from the main game that the player might have not played yet. But this makes every experience, every DLC less meaningful because they feel more and more random events that never really had an impact on the main character
- Markuz
I think the reason Kassandra doesn´t just pass the staff to Basim is because he needs to see the memories of Odin(Eivor) in order to reunite his family. That would not be possible in that time. Basim needs the "perfect storm" for his plan to succedd, let's not forget that. Basim would always, in my opinion, "wait" in the ygdrassil for Layla, even if he managed to kill Eivor there(which would allow him to obtain her dna to "see" her memories after luring layla there by other means and get the staff).
And also i don't think there is that big of a diference between alethia's goals in both games, they don´t exclude one another. Send Kass to destroy pieces of eden and the reunion of their family can work as different steps of the plan. She has problems with other ISU (in both sides), so destroy their work so the family can be reunited without other ISU interference, maybe? Basim objective doesn´t sound evil, or against human kind, he just wants to reunite the family. We just don´t know how.
Maybe Dawn of Ragnarok offers some light on this (it wont but we can hope)
Yeah I think Aletheia's objectives make sense. She and her son were treated poorly by the other isu, so she empathized with humans and still wants her kids back. It just seems like she's a bit more "The ends justify the means" than we expected.
So get the Staff, kill Eivor, keep some DNA, be with your wife, jumpstart the invention of the Animus, find your kids sooner. Not much of a perfect storm needed. I just don't think Ubisoft thought of the bigger picture issues when they both came up with Basim's convoluted plan or introduced Kass and the immortality stick.
Aletheia having ulterior motives is very good though imo. While I don't think it was intentional on Quebec's part, some of the stuff Aletheia has us do doesn't make sense if she was on the up and up.
Stop me if I'm wrong but Aletheia doesn't actually tell Kassandra to destroy the pieces of Eden, rather all she says is she should find them because they mustn't fall into the wrong hands and, as suggested by this DLC, Kassandra has been keeping them stored somewhere safe ever since she started her hunt. My guess is Aletheia thus ensured an essentially endless supply of Isu artefacts for her and Loki once the plan reaches its completion
@@obviousalias132 I think the coming Muspelheim Arc story will help explain things, especially considering how Access The Animus here has revealed that the teasers building up to contain messages from Loki to Odin. If you saw the video from the Siege of Paris puzzle, the Isu message talks about Loki "preparing [his] revenge". So, my speculation is that Basim is deliberately being extra about everything for the sheer sake of making the most out of this vendetta.
As for Alethia, while I absolutely love this alternate side of her, using the situation to both promote her cause for human autonomy and reunite herself with her loved ones, it shows that Alethia is not above being manipulative to suit her needs and desires, making her awfully comparable Juno. The fact that Alethia's Norse persona is Angerboda, the "the one who brings grief" and "harm-bidder", despite also being a "truth-giver" says that she has quite a bit of a two-faced nature.
The parallels between Alethia & Loki and Juno & Aita are too noticeable and coincidental for comfort. I'm of the strong opinion that they're going to prove to be a significant threat to both the Assassins & Templars going forward, just like how the "Instruments of the First Will" were.
@@RCDeschene I'd say the best way for Loki to have been extra and make the most out of his vendetta would be ensuring it's success while also being reunited with Aletheia as soon as possible. It's also less risky given that there were other Aesir reincarnates that could mess him up even after plugging into the Yggdrasil.
Innocent and Ignorant Eivor frustrates me!
This is a missed opportunity for having the best interaction between two great videogame characters! I don’t know why the devs decide to go with this “abhorent” version of eivor to appease “newer” players..
We could’ve seen some epic interaction and more of the isu lore.. It makes me sad tbh..
Yeah, like I said in other comments, I believe this stems from trying to make every DLC, every free content available to new players as soon as possible and because of that, Eivor would likely not have met any Isu artifact in the early stages of anyone's game (save from the Saga Stone) - so if new players get to play the crossover immediately or the Tombs of the Fallen immediately, THEIR Eivor is not supposed to know anything about the Isu and thus is "innocent and ignorant".
It's a matter of concept rather than narrative, which can be easily solved to be honest. The Odyssey crossover mission has a spoiler warning at its start for the new players - why not have that in the new content in Valhalla too?
- Markuz
@@AccessAnimus Exactly! just what I thought! I wish devs could see our frustration and work on continuing the narrative instead of this 🤦🏻♂️
Kassandra is smarter character overall.
Whether you enjoyed the two Crossover stories or not (and I for one enjoyed both), it seems to me that the writers had an opportunity to use these stories to correct or straighten some of the storytelling and lore decisions/compromises that were forced on the writers of Odyssey by previous sexist editorial leaders at Ubisoft. I *hope* that the Alexandria teaser at the end of Odyssey's crossover hints that a future story might be in development to help correct and clarify Aya/Amunet's story in this franchise.
James! So nice to see you around here too!
Oh yeah absolutely, the Odyssey portion especially did amend a lot of lore issues from the main game and on a wider scale, all the promotional material and even in game content pushed on (Fem)Eivor and Kassandra only, so there's a lot of good value to extract from that
And for the future, who knows, Kass and Aya would surely have a lot to talk about :D
- Markuz
They should have never gone with the option to choose Alexios in the first place. Kassandra is the only true hero of AC Odyssey and all the promotion efforts were assigned to Alexios. What the actual f,..?
@@AccessAnimus Hello There! Hehe you had me at your Arno thumbnail :D
(no, I'm just kidding - I've been a subscriber for a long time!!)
@@sebastiankrajewski2029 I liked playing as Alexios though, and I'd bet a lot of people did too. If they want Kassandra to be canon that's fine too.
Oh, I would love that. A crossover where Kassandra finds Amunet, and helps shape her rage and despair into something that could last for centuries? I'd also like it if Kass is the one to unite Aya and Bayek in the tomb. That never quite made sense to me afterwards.
So, we know the different groups of ISU were separate in some way... they had a racial component if you will... Could the ISU Artifact on the Ilse detect that she's of Greco Roman descent and not Norse or what ever ISU... We know the artifacts can talk to each other a ISU world wide web of sorts, so it could know who she is and not want to fall into the hands of an Enemy (Greco-Roman ISU descendant) versus Eivor who posses part of Odin and is in a way, his descendant.
I was thinking the exact same thing, I think the reference to "belonging to a different god" is talking about the various rival Isu factions or nations.
My theory is that it was actually the Staff of Hermes activating the artifact and it spoke to kassandra because she's connected to the staff.
I think the same way!! That makes absolute sense.
So Aletheia was using Kassandra to destroy Eden Pieces that held the consciousness of Isu so that she is the only one left. 11:30 Thats why she told Layla "make sure to destroy them all."
The only issue I had with the Apple of Eden that they found - Kassandra is a human with high concentrations of Isu DNA - granting her great power and control over the artifacts. But so is Eivor - 5-6% of her DNA is quite literally overridden with Odin's due to the fact of being a Sage - so I felt that when she grabbed hold of the Apple, Eivor should've had a great measure of control - if not as much as Kassandra - instead of struggling to deal with it.
I'd really love to have crossovers to Origins. Where I started now after all add ones from Odyssey. I mean she is in Egypt after Korfu, so a few Crossover Stories would be perfect. I really love Odyssey so much and Kassandra in Egypt... that would be a big wish. Until I will be in Valhalla, that will be many months later... I'm sure. Because I play the games until nothing works anymore a long way after all quests, sidequests etc. are already done. I love the grafic, the stories and simply all of it...even just driving with the ships over the ocean to enjoy all the beautyful landscapes. Yes, please make more crossovers...and not only in Valhalla.
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I just dont see why they have both Eivor and Kassandra saying they work with the hidden ones, goals align with their goals, have friends among them, and they admire their work but just doesnt make them one of them. Like come on😂
Well I get it with kassandra cause she has her own goals but eivor should join the Brotherhood
You got to think about it assassins are fanatical they're basically monks everybody would not prescribe to their strict doctrine
@@LeftHandLane5 I think weve had many less disaplined people become Assassins then people like Kassandra and Eivor. Edward Kenway, Conor Kenway, young Ezio, etc are all far from your typical monk. And even then i dont think theyre as strict as you say, at least not when you literally become the leader like most do
@@CaptainProx Well, you listed names of people where the Assassins have a leeway with their recruitment and the Brotherhood went through changes. I seriously doubt any of them would get recruited if they're in Altair's time because they're quite strict.
the wedding scene was the best part of the quest for me, it was great seeing how well they both connected after all they went through and it was great giving Kassandra a great night and friend she can remember on her quest, just a shame she likely wont return.
Ubisoft game director for odyssey said in a interview that the future of ac will mainly be told from the point of view of kassandra it is also confirmed that Ubisoft Quebec have said that this is an “opening for the next chapter in the odyssey of kassandra” looks like she will and mainly will through infinity
@@TotallyNotCountDooku 🥳🥳
The stone circle itself would not have been an Isu artifact. At the time of the fall of Isu civilisation, what would become the Isle of Skye was a barren tundra, which might make it a good remote and desolate place to hide something like an Apple. And in the intervening millennia it got much colder and was eventually covered by an ice sheet, which would've destroyed anything like that stone circle that existed before. So it's a much more recent thing.
The post launch of valhalla is hell bent on watering down the character of eivor 😂. Crazy how we haven't seen even a little of post game matured eivor.
What's a "Matured Eivor"? Is it edible?
- Markuz
@@AccessAnimus" glory go brrr. I know I said I no longer work for myself but rather for my people so let all my journeys in the future be written in the vaguest fashion possible, where I do want all the riches for myself 🔥🙌👊"
That's because all post-launch content takes place during the main campaign, prior to Eivor's ending.
@@TheDreamManifester yeah I get that but it all feels so regressive haha and it is just a huge missed opportunity
I think they should have made Eivor more understanding of Isu tech since I’m sure most of us played this at the end. After all that Odin and Loki debacle. Eivor should’ve know exactly who she was and where she came from at that particular point of her life. Also considering that Kassandra is a thousand some years old some how I feel like she should have been a lil more tech savvy on the down low. And considering that both Eivor and Kassandra where big flirts they missed that opportunity to stick that one love scene between the 2 canons. I think it would’ve blown it out of the water.
Good analysis to know more about the story.
To me, this was the best questline in the game. I loved it, I loved having Kassandra and her smartassery around, and it was just phenomenal.
Glad they kept the fact that an apple can calculate a future, as shown in brotherhood.
I also found it interesting that in certain scenes Eivor began to glow with that golden aura when she was near Kass, like there was more to that for a reason.
Ah-hah I saw the same around my Eivor during certain scenes and wondered if it was some effect caused by her being close to a Piece of Eden. However, I was reminded that this glow is caused by a passive ability called Idunn's Heart which restores Eivor's health or stamina (I cannot remember which) outside of combat. So sometimes we see this ability in action during cutscenes.
Yeah.... Another Analysis Video
I like these types of videos the most as they give more context to the things we normal players may have missed.
I have been waiting for some time for this.. knew it was going to come sooner or later. Now onto the video😉
Haha! Thank you so much!
If only it didn't take me weeks to prepare these, you'd probably have more :P
But they always are a labour of love and am always so happy when we're able to get a new one out!
- Markuz
So interesting this story has been put in this game here. My thing is before talking to the seer why did it mentioned something about Randvi and how it might change her or something like that..
I'm at that point and I couldn't get an understanding as of yet...
The way the crossover is written makes it so that if you play it before finishing the main story makes a little more sense for Eivor but if you play it after it makes more sense for Basim not just being handed the staff...my guess is that Aletheia felt like it would be easier to get her family back together in the 21st century rather than the 9th, and to avoid the other norse sages from interfering.
hey amazing video! i love your content guys keep it up😊❤
Thank you so much Sam!
- Markuz
I like the little quirks they gave Kass in Valhalla, being socially awkward due to (probably) not having just relaxed and gone to a party in over a thousand years, the fact that she has such sophistication in her fighting style when brawling against Eivor, and the fact that she's a "Piece of Eden" artifact hunter and will be till her death. Tiny things like that, even i'll give props to.....
The reason why Kassandra couldn't simply give the staff to Basim during the Viking age is because Alethea truly wants Layla to find a permanent solution to save the world and she wouldn't be able to achieve that without the staff. Had Basim had the staff since the Viking age Layla wouldn't ever be able to get inside the vault in Norway and consequently the Grey because of the radiation. Loki couldn't simply give it to her because he would die. I think Loki and Alethea are misunderstood. Even if they are evil and against humanity (I doubt it) they would want Layla to somehow find a solution to permanently protect the planet so that they would be able to find their children and live as a family once again.
I never made the Kass hears Aletheia connection, but that makes sense.
Thank you for the cursed villager translations. They went by too quickly for me to read/understand, so I appreciate these recaps. :)
Is the hologram possibly some horrible valkyrie?
I really wish Valhalla had respected Odyssey more, but this crossover did seem to be a step in the right direction. I'm curious about Ragnarok, already bought it, and am ready for more adventure. :D
With the Spear of Leonidas maybe when Kassandra gives it to Herodetos he repairs it later to make it like the original version, since he recognized it earlier on in the Odyssey campaign he mighta known about the original and wanted to make it look like that again even tho that still ain’t explain why it’s at the Isle of Skye
Realy a good video :) and yeas, I would like tho see more crossovers if it is possible but more like the one of Odyssey that I more appreciate :)
Tx for details...
16:14 apparently this language may be from another iso race or civilization
24:27 in this scene i thought it was two eyes shining in the background looking at the loki
The lore becomes easyer if you pretend the spear was created by a animus glitch caused by seeing a previous subject during anotger simulation
That's a good explanation! Eivor must have found a random spear but the Animus freaked out because of Kassandra and tadam!
Is it possible that the bracer is the shape-shifted Staff of Eden? I mean the bracer has an eagle and snake which are both features of the staff.
Why only corssover? It would be dope if we will get 4th expansion to the Valhalla about hidden ones alongside with Kassandra fighting against templars
Have you done a BOV lore video yet? The spear being in Italy isn’t a problem since that’s where Herodotus dies although the Odyssey timeline is weird due to Kass giving him the spear after he left for Thurii somehow. I do have some issues with BOV MD timing though because it would have been so much better to place it before Odyssey in order to explain how Layla found out about it. And then we wouldn’t also have to deal with the Otso junk.
I'm very late but to the last inquiry:
Could it be possible that Aletheia and Loki only got in contact in 2012 after Desmond activated the whole network? I don't think Aletheia could have known about loki's revival precisely since if it could be calculated/predicted then Odin would have found out too and prevented it.
If that were the case, then Aletheia probably didn't know about Basim at all. She might have only found out when Yggdrasil got reactivated.
Though there might be some conflict with the Keeper of Memories role so idk..
Perhaps the reason Aletheia seems different in the two games ties to her finding out about Loki's revival. Before she wanted to hoard/destroy the Eden pieces but now she just wants to be reunited with Loki, even if it implies manipulating Kassandra and Laylah into achieving it.
Just tried to play it and still doing the same tjing sail for a bit and then homepage
In my opinion, this is a necessary move by Ubisoft as Eivor is clearly not joining the assassin brotherhood; this ties the modern-day store altogether. I would have to agree this would create all sorts of paradoxes within the timeline vs. canon but isn't that always the case with any time travel story. id like that dig at Loki stating that he got bored
Well, in Ac Odyssey we see that Leonidas spear has a forge, the same one we use upgrade it, idk about the spear of the brotherhood from venice, but this one is more likile to be another spear that share the same model from the leonidas spear, but diferent from the second, this one never been broked or upgraded, and the name for the wearpon in valhalla is a hoax, probably because of the similiarity of the spear withe the real leonidas spear, and the iscriptions on the spear base is Greek, iron age Greek, but in a calygraphy that i never manage to identify from wich region is from.
And about the colluns in the island of skye vault, i think it will be more updates and quests on the map in the future, similar with the odin runes founded in Ireland map
Some similar writings was on staff of Eden in AC2
I hadn't really considered that. You raise a valid question. If the staff was meant for Loki, why wait until then to pass it onto him if both Loki and Kassandra were alive at the same time all of those centuries? Man, this stuff is getting complex.
Becaus mayby the modern Times ar the best and they obviusly want to have a male Protagonist again becaus sexism
I feel like the hologram could be fenrir because that's the only monster I know that was imprisoned on an island in a cave, so just a theory
so if we can believe this map, we can also sort of guess what locations we'll still go to regarding future games.
For hologram, what spefic creature is associated with isle of skye? we found which one is and boom, mystery solved
I kinda feel like the loki ''joke" needs a little more discussion. That was the closest they actually got to Kass recognizing Eivor as Odin. It seems like there could be a little more to unpack there...
I REALLY don’t like how dumb they made Eivor seem. Not only about her knowledge of Isu stuff, but really just in general. They put WAY too much focus on Kassandra and making her seem like she’s all powerful and better than everyone else. Eivor couldn’t even hold an APPLE! She “needed” Kassandra to save her then too even though she’s a badass Sage! WTF?! Also, I can’t say how GLAD I am that they didn’t make them hook up at the end, or even give the player the option. That would’ve been SOOOOO wrong. I don’t get why people say that should’ve happened. It would be like Kassandra hooking up with Bayek, or Altïar or someone else when she weasels her way into that story. They ALL already have their own true loves (Aya, Maria, and Eivor has Randvi). Eivor and Randvi is a very pure and meaningful relationship, but if they made Kassandra a romance-able option, it would have only been fan service to the people that get a hard-on for Kassandra. NOT because it contributes ANYTHING substantial or necessary at all. 🥵
what if the staff shape shifted to the hidden blade?
Unless the spear from that Italian assassin is just the other end of that original spear. Be cool if that was the case
It might be alethea who told basim about Kassandra. I wish the choice of playing alexios would have had bigger impact.they called the actour back for oddysey
The fact that Apples of Eden can be controlled by someone else doesn't contradict Kassandra's words that it might be activated because of her presence. It just says the same that somebody activated the artifact and corrupted those villagers because Kassandra arrived to the Island. And I suspect that this somebody coud be Juno.
The Staff had to get the Basim the way it did,or basim wouldnt be in the modern day. im hoping their updating Origins next with Kassandra going to egypt to get her hidden blade XD im replaying it in case they do, i forgot Bayek’s hidden blade is Driusas the blade that killed Xerses XD Aya says it right to us replaying after all this time is a trip knowing they relatives of Kassardra now
Sloppy, like all things Ubisoft. That Malaka joke was cringe.
Also, Odyssey confirmed that Kass had Eagle vision in a side quest, so for her to mysteriously not have it in Valhalla was another disappointment.
Kassandra’s Eagle Vision is the ability to control the eagle. It is the same with Bayek, even Connor’s daughter from the comics, and Eivor (but Eivor has 2 versions of it). And I don’t know how exactly it works - can Kassandra after the death of Icarus find a new eagle? Or it’s like a one time thing? Anyway, Kassandra did have Eagle Vision, but it was different from Eivor’s, and that’s why, I think, she couldn’t she the markings on the stones. Or she stopped possessing it at all by the time Valhalla took place.
For some reason i cant play the Valhalla cross over i get o the boat it starts sailing and goes back to the home page
So sorry to hear that :(
Did you try after the patch they released yesterday?
- Markuz
Human-Isu War Prediction
1. I think the Adam & Eve's human rebels taught the art of stealth, leap of faith jump, eagle sight, and assassinations to their descendants (Ex. Darius, Kassandra, Bayek, etc)
2. Bayek tried to teach Khemu how to do a Leap of Faith while Darius & Kassandra already knew how to perform a Leap of Faith (likely taught from their parents).
3. However, the way Ubisoft tried to present and introduce the Proto-Assassins is bad.
I cant understand, if Kass doesnt have the same eagle vision of Eivor, why in odissey( in the secondary mission “keep the faith”) Kass is able to see some Isu inscriptions that another normal human cant see?, smells like another incosinstency
Just had a question, so like you have to have physical contact with the staff to stay alive, but Basim in modern day keeps it away and is still alive.
Basim didn’t technically die. Darby once said (in a dev stream, I think, or something like that) that the Yggdrasil device kept him alive all that time, so the Staff only… rejuvenated him? It didn’t revive him or something, so he doesn’t have to hold onto it.
@@vintagenutria5475 ah I see, thanks.
The staff is Kassandra’s hidden blade transformed
Any ideas?
I personally liked the crossover
i personally didnt enjoy Odyssey as a game in general so i just watched a stream for the Odyssey part because i just refuse to touch Odyssey again
but the story in the Odyssey part was better than i expected and imo it felt better written than most of Odysseys main game and actually made me like Kassandra as a charcter
wich i thought was going to be an imposible achivment.
I also liked the Valhalla portion of the crossover even though its gameplay basicaly became fort clearing for the rest of the quest until the final part of the quest.
I like the idea of more crossover stories maybe they could do more in Ac Infinity or whatever that game ends up being called
The Ubisoft writer's need to keep track of the lore, because I feel as though it's fucking everywhere in absolute chaos. Not only that, Eivor acts as though she hasn't dealt with any ISU artifacts in many instances. I love the series, but they need to get their shit together because it's riddled with plot holes.
I don't understand this apple. The Olympos Project's artifacts were not apples, even if they had the same appereance; if they were like apples, Leonidas' spear would have interacted with them and lost his power long before the events of Korfu. But this apple have both mind control powers and the hologram at the end. Maybe it is not the same mind control of normal apples, and every Olympos Project artifact has self-defense abilities, the ones in Odyssey not using them because they were already "protected" by monsters.
But if the artifact in this story is one of those, why they repell Kassandra for being in the Isle of Skye and have the wrong blood? Aren't those artifact greeks in origin? Are there others who created artifacts like those outside of Atlantis, or even more, outside of the Greek-Roman Isu?
I'm just replaying Odyssey and Pythagoras confirmed those artifacts are able to defend themselves
The spear and the sword are probably Copy created by the piece of Eden
They're going to need the "Mad One" aka Odin/Eivor in the future I think to stop Basim, maybe he comes back or his data is crucial to The Reader. As the modern Assassins have discovered, all artifacts including the Staff must be destroyed when the time is right. This is necessary to save humanity. Basim doesn't use the Staff, he's going to abuse the Staff to get his family back. To do this he needs Isu mechanism while the Assassins do everything they can to destroy as much Isu mechanism as possible. Basim is as unreliable as someone from The Order aka Abstergo. Basim wants to abuse the Staff at the expense of humanity to save his son. The Order wants to abuse the Staff to take full control of the world and are so fixated on it that they don't see that this will mean the end of humanity, including themselves. In the Isu world you have Loki (Primitive, Family Code, Fighter for Freedom) and you have Juno (Dictator, Pro Order, Anti Human). We've learned that being 100% chaos maker doesn't mean you're the right one, but full Order is just as dangerous. An Assassin must strike a balance between chaos and order with the intention of defending free will without erasing every bit of Order. There has to be a balance between Chaos and Order, that's Kassandra and The Creed's job. Kassandra was chosen by Alethea because, despite two Isu bloodlines, she does everything she can to create balance between people, but also between Isu and people. She established balance between Sparta and Athena, between Chaos and Order, and between Isu and humans. Loki aka Basim is an anti-order and all-primitive who uses his role as an Assassin to keep The Order away from his fate. He doesn't fight for The Hidden Ones and humanity, he fights for himself and free grasp of power to fulfill his primitive goals. So he cannot be called a true Assassin (in terms of true Hidden One aka Creed). Juno is an enemy of Loki because of her anti-human policy and lust for Isu's power over everything and everyone. She is The Order but for Isu. The Human Order would use the power to use Juno because they would think it would bring Order under power, which is why The Order should never have the Staff. They will be blind to the consequences, Juno would promise loyalty and help to The Order but at the same time ensure that The Order will wipe out humanity without realizing it. Juno would use the Order to rule the Isu Order and wipe humanity from the world afterwards. Odin/Havi/Eivor is an evolution of balance. Odin/Havi were possessed by the strife, pride and nation importance of his realm and paradise. Addiction to triumph in war. Eivor fought against his reincarnation against Odin himself so that he would not make the same mistakes, has sought balance by founding alliances between Norwegians/Danes and English. By helping The Hidden Ones but also by helping kings and nation leaders. He spared King Aelfred despite knowing he would start a new Order. Eivor knows that there are always new people who start Order even if Aelfred were to continue. Eivor has the potential to become immensely powerful but chose the interest of his Clan and the alliances for a better future. That makes Eivor a good person and Loki/Basim's revenge is not necessary, but he pushed on to try to destroy Eivor. This while Eivor himself has fought against his spirit. This proves that Eivor is a good man, Basim is a bad one because he wants to achieve his primitive goals at the expense of humanity and balance. Eivor has done as a mortal in 1 generation what Kassandra as Pre-immortal (until she leaves the Staff) over several centuries. Suppose Eivor had been given the Staff, he would do it just as well and correctly as Kassandra. Fortunately, the Staff remained in the hands of Kassandra for a long time and Loki/Basim was only able to steal it in Layla generation. The Modern Assassins don't trust Basim completely and rightly so. Hopefully they'll take the Staff from him. There will be little time to destroy all artifacts, Staff and all other mythical resources when it is crucial to save humanity. If Loki resists (which will happen because he needs the Staff to save his son) the Modern Assassins must stop both Abstergo and a traitor Unworthy-Assassin Basim. It's about balance and the fate of humanity and that's why all those artifacts have to be destroyed to save that balance and humanity. Only the timing is important as the modern Assassins in AC Valhalla have said. With Basim's hands on the Staff, that timing could be in jeopardy, but also because Abstergo is hunting for the Staff. Basim will be the chaos, Abstergo The Order. The Modern Assassins must restore the balance by destroying all those artifacts at the right time before Basim or Abstergo can achieve their objectives.
Eivor is a legendary character and it isn't even complete yet 👌👌
I know the meaning of the symbols on the spear of leonidas
The placement of Randvi is really bothering me in this expansion. Cause Valka said Eivor will find Randvi in the middle of the mess but before I start the quest, i check on Randvi and she still on the conquest table in the longhouse settlement. I also not sure why Eivor dont bring this up in a dialog or something like, Randvi in the longhouse how come she on the Isle of Skye right now???Hahahaha. Either way maybe I missed something. Hope the next dlc session make Eivor less ignorance of the Isu, kinda tired to see that he dont know anything or dont dwell on what he already encounter on the Isu.
That's because the Ubisoft writer's are being sloppy. Real lore delvers like yourself, and I pick up on this and it really bothers us.
eivor wasn't the heir of memories thus she didn't get the staff, case closed for those wondering
eivor was foound to be weak. had bo isu power or knowledge. kassandra actually had isu blood and learned about isu and actually saw them.
It is really annoying how Eivor completely ignores Isu artefacts in the DLCs but the problem has an easy answer: Ubisoft wants their DLCs to be playable as soon as possible because you know, finishing a game is too much to ask, I guess, and thus all those DLCs are written in such a way that it ignores the endgame revelations, and THUS, all the DLCs take place before the end of the game. After all, the Isle of Skye is accessible as soon as Valka arrives which is super early in the game. It's bullshit but I mean, marketting I guess...
As for why Aletheia didn't arrange to be reunited with Loki then, my guess is she just doesn't know he's alive then? Sure, she's an Isu who can make calculations of the future and basically see the future and even see through the Animus and everything, but both them and Loki in the animus glitches sound very unsure about when Loki will be reborn and how long it will take them to reunite so maybe it's not something they could have predicted? Very loose and kind of bullshit, I know, but I mean, Darby McDewitt did his best to save this plotline, it was bound to have some holes in it, even if I'd argue it's still one of the best plots we've had in an AC game since at least AC3.
Or maybe not reuniting then is part of the plan? You keep saying that Aletheia asked Kassandra to destroy the pieces of Eden but she never actually tells her to do that, rather she asks her to find them and as suggested by this DLC, Kassandra has been storing them somewhere safe, seemingly ever since she started to hunt them down. Maybe while Loki's focus is to find Odin and the Yggdrasil chamber, Aletheia's focus was to gather as many Isu artefacts as she could so that she and her lover would have a huge supply of artefacts at the ready when they are finally reunited for whatever plan they have? Or maybe this search is all about finding an artefact that would allow her to regain a body? Granted, this too could have been achieved by Basim but idk, I guess they didn't want to risk screwing up the plan they'd been concoting? And I mean, they've been separated for so long that a few centuries might not feel so long to Aletheia? What's 1200 years when you've been apart for 73800 years already?
Also, unrelated, but among all the stupid things Ubisoft has done, making a board game canon is easily in the top 5.
That's what really disappoints me with Valhalla. It is a good game with a fairly good plot in regards to the AC: world. But Eivor being completely oblivious about the ISU, or the ISU weapons he/she holds is ridiculous. I mean, he/she even went into the ISU machine in Norway with Sigurd. After that experience, nothing should baffle them. It would even baffle us living in the present. But a 9th century Viking? Nah, don't know what's happening, mate. 😂 Ubisoft need to tighten down on keeping the lore consistent.
@@LPeck1985 I mean, I'd argue that a polytheistic viking from the 9th century would be a lot more willing to accept something that looks this much like magic than a 21st century person who would then be questioning everything they've been taught about the world and science, etc. Imo the real issue is how Eivor doesn't make connections between the different Isu artefacts she encounters because the DLCs aren't written in a way that allows it.
@@Livael23 Eivors world, (going through the story of Valhalla) would hit home hard. They believed in their Gods, and he/she now should have an extremely good understanding that the gods were not gods at all, but a highly advanced species that once existed along side Humans, (their slaves at the time of the ISU era). With today's tech and fantasy based TV series, movies and less religious type folks everywhere, I think that it wouldn't hit as hard. Unfortunately we'll never truly know. But yes, the DLC is meant to be played almost straight away, which bothers me because I'm big on lore.
@@LPeck1985 Uuuh... No ? x) Not at all. Eivor doesn't know shit about the Isu, even less so about the humans being their slaves, that's never even addressed in the game iirc. All Eivor has seen is someone she believes to be a god (and has no reason to believe is anything else), visions of said god with a mythological veil over it, and strange devices which she thinks are magic. We, the players, know what all of this is about, but Eivor has no clue, to her it's all magic and divine stuff. There is absolutely nothing here that would make her question the very essence of her world, I mean beyond getting the proof that what she believed in in the first place is indeed real, even though she doesn't understand it like we do. And on the contrary, the fact that people nowadays are more rational, less religious, and don't believe in magic anymore would make it much MUCH worse of a breakthrough because we'd be faced with something that we adamantly believe doesn't exist. That would completely shift our perception of reality. Eivor believes in magic, to a degree, so she is a lot less impacted by this, if at all.
@@Livael23 A fair point. I agree mostly. Also, I didn't state her knowing about the ISU using the Humans as slaves. If I did, then I've worded it wrongly. However, she has worked with the ISU device that puts you into a animus based reality. How would she still think that was some sort of magic? The weapons that she's come across, sure, I can see how they could be mistaken as god-like artifacts. It's a shame we can't discuss this over a coffee at some cafe, as the world of AC is vast, and I'm currently at work. With that said, thanks for the replies. I'll ponder what you said, and can at least give Eivor some respect in regards to the ISU and various ruins that she has come across.
I think what they try to Do is have alethea and basim.be on humanitys side with some selfish Action on ther own end
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We can't for now :(
Hopefully in the future!
- Markuz
È in italiano?
@@mirkoincarnato2547 Stessa cosa purtroppo :(
- Markuz
Is it just me or did kassandra look weird in valhalla
I'm very confused with how ubisoft is handling eivor's character because eivor literally begs Ciara in wrath of the druids not to mess with the isu artifact but in the crossover story eivor completely ignores kassandra's pleas for her not to touch the apple of Eden because she's desperate for its power despite the fact eivor knows fully well what isu artifacts are capable of. People complained about kassandra's personality being confusing but I would argue eivor definitely isn't much better right now I wish ubisoft would just make up there mind on what they want eivor's character to be because at the moment evior seems to be bipolar?
Isle Of Skye must come before Ireland and Vinland in the story
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Just pretending Haytham and Connor aren’t a thing…. 😑😵
sooo after all this cannon and non cannon things , is it ok to say a term like, AC QuebecVerse / ACMontrealverse xD AHHAHAHAHA ooooh god
Maybe the process of putting althea's conscience in the staff created a sort of split personality a manipulative and vengeful side that stayed dorment and then took over when the time was right and genuinely human caring side that was dominent for centuries