I just can't get over the fact that Ubisoft in recent years wasted so much potential story ideas by throwing them into comics, novels but not their own game.
All the Hitler theory did was want a game set during WW2 following that story. Maybe your assassin infiltrates German high command and learns of Hitler and the templars or you’re a German officer who sees the dirty dealing between Hitler and the Templars and become disillusioned then have a fateful encounter with an assassin and it goes from there; both ending in the assassins executing Hitler
Not really the most lore accurate ending. Maybe go the Syndicate path and kill his goons that affect his empire until we fight him, but we spare him so he can rot in prison/ be captured but he then commits self shoot
I thought about a Russian assasin that worked for stalin and he must liberate the death camps and kill major nazis officers and at the end kill hitler then the protagonist realized after the war how evil stalin was and so he killed him
Ubisoft would never have you play as a German soldier in the 1930s-40s lmao. Maybe once when they actually had ambition and weren't absurdly safe with everything they made. I remember seeing AC2 namedropping Kraft foods as an Abstergo/Templar company and was mind blown. Would never happen today.
Realistically, Hitler would be a rogue third party, and either Churchill or Roosevelt would be a Templar or ex Templar and the other an assassin in tense alliance to beat this dangerous new third party. Hitler was against the existing global order and obsessed with the occult, but his only significant tie that lasted to any international organization was his membership in the holy fascist alliance (a pact between Hitler, Mussolini, and the pope)
Everytime I read bout the conspiracies in AC universe I just recall wendigoon famous line "and remember kids, the next time someone tells you "the government wouldn't do that" ... Oh yes they would!"
My favourite AC theory is that the "Precursor box" is a miniature Animus, and the whole reason the Animus project got started. The box is a piece of Eden that pops up in a lot of AC media and games (most notably in Rogue) Once supplied with electricity, the box displays holographic projections of stored knowledge. in AC Chronicles Russia, it even awoke the genetic memories of Shao Jun inside the Russian princess Anastasia.
Crazy theory - Ubisoft was Assassin's order trying to make people aware of crazy stuff by games and then templars took over them and that's why the new games are poorly worked on and doesn't make sense on the most part
I wonder who the Assassins would side with in the American civil war, would they be on the side of state and individual rights or on the side of slaves I'm not saying the American Civil War was about state rights I'm just asking whose side would the Assassins take
Ubisoft did become the things they spoke out against in both AC and Watchdogs, that is one of the reasons why they killed off Watchdogs and watered down AC. And I even believe they are chasing that ESG money which sounds like something the Templars would partake in, even Blackrock who pushes that sounds similar to Abstergo. So I believe what you said definitely ain’t a bad take.
@@Mephilis78 Rockstar became everything they used to parody now. And there was even that time where they made fun of Mark Zuckerberg, and now they are working with him on some VR ports.
What if the animus, assassins, and templars are real, and ubisoft is making games based loosely on real events to make us think it's too absurd to really happen.
One theory I have is that deadsec from watchdogs was founded by an assassin to round up hackers and create a hackers group to target Abstergo industries and discover their secrets. I also suspect Rebecca, who worked with Desmond and laylah is a deadsec member.
Ubisoft: non of our games are connected or share a universe thats all fan speculation. Also Ubisoft: Abstergo and the animus is Canon in all our games Edit: Also Also Ubisoft: xdefiant doesnt connect all our games together even though they all share the same universe and timelines, trust us
Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed isn't connected, but there is a whole storyline with the Brotherhood and Templars and a playable Assassin in Legion... Right.
I agree. What would be the point in having so much content from both franchises bleed into each other as well as having a crossover? There are more subtle ways of referencing games made by the same company.
@@Ash-Winchester and it also just makes sense, I mean blume is literally the Templar order they everything in common they want world domination and constant surveillance with ctos it just makes too much sense.
Bruh they literally released a crossover dlc for legion that was about assassin's creed. You just can't tell me with a straight face that they aren't connected.
@@Ash-WinchesterExactly this. Like what do they have to lose by saying the two series are connected? A better example of "just easter eggs" is the Abstergo logo showing up in one of the Far Crys as one small detail, and not a whole damn DLC crossover.
Plus even if it was meant as shared Easter eggs having the same events in two different games (Aiden killing the Templar) makes it a cannon event in both universes thus connecting them, they might have plausible deniability, if they only had the Easter egg in watchdogs but them adding it to a mainline AC game removes that deniability
The same goes for the syndicate Easter eggs, had they just made the “searched Jacob Frye descendants” part standalone then I could believe it was just a nod to the AC games but adding the statues and tombs kinda pushes it past a nod
They may say that they are just making Easter Eggs, but how does that mean that universes are not the same? If Rockstar added Abstergo on some company list it would be a genuine Easter Egg, but if Ubisoft, the makers of Assassin's Creed AND Watch Dogs do it... then I feel like it is obvious that they are set in the same space and time. Idk how to explain it, screw it.
I think I left a similar comment on another video of yours, but just because Ubisoft say that the franchises aren't connected doesn't mean they actually aren't. For example, Square Enix has claimed repeatedly that Drakengard/Drag-On Dragoon, Nier, and SinoAlice are entirely separate franchises that aren't connected at all - in fact, if you check out Grimoire Nier (the book explaining all the backstory and lore of Nier), the dragon appearing in Tokyo is alluded to very vaguely... even though that's literally the ending of Drakengard 1, and the dragon and its rider are that game's protagonists. Same goes for SinoAlice, the latest update to Nier: Reincarnation confirms that the settings of both games, the "Library" of SinoAlice and the "Cage" of Nier: Reincarnation are one and the same, and yet on paper they're standalone franchises - the SinoAlice artbook makes no mention of Nier, and the crossovers with it and Drakengard are considered non-canon. Honestly, I think it's just a weird legal thing. I'm not a lawyer, so don't quote me on this - but there could be very good reasons why Ubisoft need to legally cover their butts and avoid giving any lawyer the excuse to claim that Watch_Dogs and Assassin's Creed are actually the same franchise, should it come to that in court.
That does sound pretty reasonable. Maybe there's disputes with different ubisoft employees/ex employees that worked on both franchises, so they could've for the sake of legal reasons just said its not connected.
Great video! I’ve had a idea for a assassin’s creed game that involves 2 or 3 diff characters storylines (kind of like gta5 but not really) where the players characters are changing possibly dying and their story would seem to be separate until towards the end we see how it’s all interconnected.
I still think it would be plausible to take downloaded memories and place them in biologically cloned bodies via Isu Technology thus bringing the characters back to life. It'd be a good way to fix certain story left undone such as questioning/redeeming Lucy, Ezio meeting Desmond, the Kenways making amends, Arno finally fighting Shay and avenging his father, etc.
I still think having an AC set during WW2 would be a good setting since it would set up Hitler and his people in a perfect situation with them as Templars since in real life, Hitler believed in the occult and he would want to use a piece of Eden to try to win. the MC could even be a Jewish person who escaped a camp early on and met with a member of the assassins and trained with the end goal to be ending the upper echelon of the Nazis
Ubisoft said they'd never do that because if they implemented semi auto/automatic weapons it would just become another third person shooter, which sucks but they have a point.
@@James_Randalwhen did they say this? I believe there is another reason why they won’t make a game in that setting, and that is they are afraid of the controversy it will come with.
Except Hitler actively hated secret societies and had members of them arrested. Which honestly would make for a better story, having Hitler working against both Assassins and Templars
I don't know if it's rally conspiracy but I remember in one of the novels they explained the reason Cortes was able to conquer Tenochtitlan and the Aztec Empire so easily was because his blade was a piece of Eden and I think later in the story it gets passed down to Ulysses Grant which is how he was able to win the American Civil War
Since I don’t work for Ubisoft, I can only speculate…but… I suspect that they said it’s “just Easter eggs” because they don’t want people to expect a game where the two factions work together. Making a dlc that is a short story with the two interacting and committing to a full game involving that are two different things. It’s probably just not something they want to take on.
Imagine an assassins creed game during the mongol empire time and we see Genghis khan as a side character They can even make him as a templar grandmaster (according to me😅)
I have a theory about the Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD. My theory is that the eruption was caused by someone messing with a Piece of Eden like the one Shay accidentally set off that caused the Lisbon Earthquake.
Nope. I dont care what the developers say, the higher ups in Ubisoft say about the Watchdogs universe being separate from the AC universe. To me, they're connected. They're perfect as an interconnected universe.
I feel like with that last bit of that guy saying it’s just Easter eggs and aren’t linked as of WD2 would have been true but with WDL that statement would no longer be accurate as before it was small missable details but in Legion with the entire small section of the assassin character would prove that statement wrong as of like 2020-2022
I’ve heard the theory that Ubisoft is actually Abstergo. But I think a more likely theory is that Ubisoft is actually controlled by the Assassins, not the Templars/Abstergo. After all, given how the Templars *are the bad guys* in the AC games, wouldn’t it make more sense for the company making those games to be the Assassins?
Ac4 explains why no modern history AC games will happen. One reason given via email through the heads of abstergo entertainment, they mention that The catatonic state of people driving/flying in the animus can cause serious issues... in fact in that same email they explain quite a bit of what can and cant work in the animus.
Borris Pash was a real life American military official. He is notable for hating the Soviet Union and even killed many Russians. Most people would probably know him for investigating Robert Oppenheimer during the Los Alamos project even appearing in the Oppenheimer movie from last year.
Just a quick reminder to those who don't know what conspiracy theory means. Conspiracy theory doesn't mean "a theory that's automatically wrong". A conspiracy theory is simply a theory someone has about two people or a group of people who are plotting against another person or another group of people. Hence the term conspiracy. Conspiracy: Two or more people plotting against another person or group of people Theory: an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
Ill always connect AC and WD as it can be explained that the game mentioned in that data breach or the movie posters can all be seen as Abstergo making them to try and expose the Creed
There is a lot of untapped story involving the weird relationship between the Mad Monk - Rasputin & his relationship with Nicholas II & his wife, Alexandra. I'm not sure what side of the fight Rasputin would actually be on, but I assum the Templars. He became well known in Russia due to being very excentric with his beliefs of the afterlife & the fact that he helped heal the prince, who auffered from a free bleesing disease. There are a lot of rumors that he was actually pulling the royal strings at that time & convinced Nicholas II to go fight in the war & people speculate he did this because of a relationship he had with the Empress. Long story short, a few of Nicholas II's advisors were fed up with Rasputin & ordered him to be killed. The man was fed copius amounts of poison, was shot in the chest & castrated, then rolled up into a rug while being tied up. Well, his body was founs and he had untied himself and had water in his lungs (meaning he was still alive and fighting after all that)
It would be insane an AC in WWII. The dynamics between Hitler and the Templars, the use of the apple for mass control, assassins infiltrated in the reich and strugling to win the war would be such a cool narrative. Very few times we feel oppressed in an Assassin's Creed game, despite the assassins almost everytime been in disadvantage. This would be a perfect opportunity to make an Assassin's Creed game were you really feel what is at stake. We fail, the world goes totally to shit. Imagine going through all terrible shit, almost not been able to win the war just to find out thar Hitler escaped and now you're tasked to intercept him and kill him. That would be such a cool concept for an Assassin's Creed game
Assassins creed and watchdogs are a strange cannon. They aren’t explicitly stated but there are certain things that must be cannon. The best way to think about it is that they are their own universes. But both universes has a version of the other. So the watchdogs timeline has a alternate AC timeline WITHIN, and vice versa
Something I would like to see is an Assassin's Creed setting in WW2 with the main game set during the war, and one of the expansions is set in the Soviet Union in the early 1950s, where your goal is to assassinate Joseph Stalin. The other expansion could be set in South America in the mid-late 1960s, where you are trying to hunt down and kill the last remaining Nazis who survived the war.
For the comments that watchdogs and Assassins creed do not exist together, coming from the dev team itself. Please remember these are also the people who forgot that Assassins creed takes place in history and that magic, and mythological creatures should not exist
I don't know which gaming studio needs to hear this but referencing the video game is an "easter egg", but adding main story elements like an assassin tomb and a hidden blade are direct connections and a shared universe.@Ubisoft
Think about it, almost all of the games too afraid to use the swastika already use The Iron Cross which is similar to the Templar symbol. On top of that with the fear of firearms being too overpowered, you could easily use this as a propellant for exaggerated stealth. Which in my opinion (I hate to say it) only mirage has done an extraordinary job at. So it would still be relatively new (Note: AC Shadows is not released at the time of this comment).
Can’t wait till the new ac multiplayer comes out and it will be epic if they keep some of the best classic game modes and maps and characters along with the new stuff
As far as I know. The 2 universes being connected of watch dogs and AC was true. You take out AC4s Garnaeu in Watch Dogs. And there is a photo of it in Origins. But they ended up retconning it in WD:L and the assassin dlc character isn't a canon character
If anybody is interested in a similar open-world parkour game set during WW2, I'd recommend checking out The Saboteur, you play as an irishman in nazi-occupied france and you can climb anything. Good mix of GTA and AC.
Assassin's Creed: Threads of War This concept takes you on a journey through the Assassin-Templar conflict during two of the most brutal wars in history: World War I and World War II. The Setting: The game offers a dual-timeline experience. In the Animus, you explore memories of two different Assassins: WWI: You play as a nimble Assassin caught between empires in a war fueled by Templar manipulation. Explore war-torn landscapes like the Western Front, bustling cities under occupation, and exotic locations tied to hidden Templar operations. WWII: Take on the role of a resourceful Assassin navigating a world engulfed in global conflict. Explore iconic cities like London, Berlin, and Cairo, each with hidden Templar strongholds and resistance movements. Open World Design: Each timeline features a large, open world with diverse environments: WWI: Traverse trench networks, ruined villages, sprawling battlefields, and bustling cities under occupation. WWII: Explore wartorn European cities, sprawling deserts of North Africa, and bustling Middle Eastern markets. Stealth and parkour mechanics are crucial, allowing you to navigate war-torn environments and crowded cities. Each open world offers side quests, historical landmarks to explore, and hidden Templar secrets to uncover. Story and Gameplay: The narrative focuses on the Assassins' struggle to prevent the Templars from exploiting the chaos of war to further their control. You'll encounter historical figures caught in the conflict, some unwittingly pawns of the Templars. Gameplay blends classic Assassin's Creed elements with war-themed challenges: Stealth Assassinations: Utilize the environment and distractions created by the war to eliminate Templar targets. Guerilla Warfare: Assist resistance movements in sabotaging Templar operations and disrupting war efforts fueled by Templar influence. Historical Gear: Wield iconic weapons of the era alongside Assassin-crafted tools and gadgets adapted for war. Gadget Adaptations: The Hidden Blade could be modified for silent takedowns in gas masks or trench warfare. Moral Choices: The war presents difficult decisions, forcing you to choose between protecting civilians and achieving your objectives. Considerations: The sensitive nature of these wars requires a respectful portrayal that acknowledges the historical tragedies without glorifying violence. The focus on stealth and assassination would likely be emphasized to maintain the core Assassin's Creed identity, with open warfare used for specific missions or environmental hazards. This concept offers a unique opportunity to explore the Assassin-Templar conflict during a period of immense historical upheaval. The open world design allows players to experience the diverse landscapes and complexities of these wars, while the story challenges them to navigate a world shaped by both historical events and the ongoing struggle between the Assassins and Templars. tuneshare more_vert Upload an image This prompt requires an image that you need to add. Tap the image button to upload an image. Got it Need a little help with this prompt? Power up your prompt and Gemini will expand it to get you better results Got it expand_content add_photo_alternatephoto_camera mic send Gemini may display inaccurate info, including about people, so double-check its responses. Your privacy
The problem about The Assassin's Creed and Watch Dogs Easter egg is that Ubisoft doesn't explain what actually happened to Oliver. So despite saying it's not connected is entirely untrue because how else would you explain it.
As soon as I saw Aiden Pearce all those years ago I just had an itching feeling he had some connection to the brotherhood. Even compared to the other watchdogs no one is that good
Bro why’d he have to ruin the fun in having a lore about the AC universe and watchdogs being connected. Garnaeu’s death to the brotherhood/aiden makes it worth while in not seeing him at all. But having the historical figures/ events changed in a way is crazy.
Id say subsidiaries. Blume and Ubisoft are Subsidiaries of Abstergo... Pretty sure that's there are even blatant hints and references like the use of Ctos and the fact the brotherhood has made use of hackers like Shaun and Rebecca. So its not to far of a leap. Despite the head creative lead saying otherwise... I don't understand why they don't say they are and have the Watch Dogs Legion be the fallen timeline of the Brotherhood or something... But i can see many people disliking that idea so meh. Would probably draw more attention to Watchdogs series. (Edit was to fix the spelling of Shauns name)
The idea of "killing Hitler before his rise" is weird when you try to do it in 1943. Why not before or during WW1? Before WW1 would be the easiest, he won't be armed, he won't have an army and bodyguards of his own. If that would stop WW2, however, who knows. But 1943 is a really odd choice to try to do that lol
Is Abstergo also in Far Cry? I don't remember which one. Is it a DLC or something, you go inside a building find a bunch of files or something talking about Templars and Assassins
Hearing mention of Die Glocke in a video not about CoD Zombies is slightly offputting to me idk why (im big into both AC and CoDZ lore, and they both use the real life Die Glocke for lore) Bro, the entire CoD zombies lore is based on the Tunguska meteor event, according to that lore, a space rock containing large amounts of element 115 was what landed at Tunguska, element 115 is responsible for reanimating the dead, creating wonder weapons like the Ray Gun, and anything else mythical is explained simply by "Element 115"
Same here. Love both game's lore a lot. I like that both take advantage of these mysterious historical events and put their own twist on it. I had cod zombies in mind throughout the whole video while he was explaining all of this lol.
The reason Ubisoft won’t go into the JFK assassination or WWII for a game is because they are too recent of events which makes it too difficult to fudge details of the story to fit the lore of the franchise.
Even if it wasn't worth a full game an assassin's Creed that took place in actual ancient rome. Ww1'2 nam would have been badass. I know we got a snippet of world war 1 but it wasn't enough
I heard there is a mention of Jesus in AC an essentially he was js a normal man not the son of God not affiliated wit the Templars or Assassins an tht the miracles he performed were bcos he had an shroud of Eden wen the Romans heard of these under the control of the Templars they arrested, tortured, then crucified him and took the shroud his followers retrieved the shroud to try to resurrect him but all attempts failed
There is. He was an user of the shroud of Eden in AC lore. Clay Kaczmarek (Subject 16) confirms this in The Truth puzzles in AC II although i dont remember exactly which glyph it is. They do it by setting the shroud besides Christ nailed to the cross.
Now let's be honest you and me both know that is complete bs when he said WD and AC are not in the same universe and Easter egg reference my foot because why make a side request and a DLC if they not in the same universe that doesn't make sense at all and great video
I just can't get over the fact that Ubisoft in recent years wasted so much potential story ideas by throwing them into comics, novels but not their own game.
Crazy huh I read so many of they comics and novel was like yo this could of been in the game what a waste of talent
Modern people are lazy, comics only need an artist and a writer.
@@positivelydisliked you have declared war upon comic writers
Almost like making a game is more complicated than writing novels
@@positivelydislikedregardless both are art
All the Hitler theory did was want a game set during WW2 following that story. Maybe your assassin infiltrates German high command and learns of Hitler and the templars or you’re a German officer who sees the dirty dealing between Hitler and the Templars and become disillusioned then have a fateful encounter with an assassin and it goes from there; both ending in the assassins executing Hitler
Not really the most lore accurate ending. Maybe go the Syndicate path and kill his goons that affect his empire until we fight him, but we spare him so he can rot in prison/ be captured but he then commits self shoot
I thought about a Russian assasin that worked for stalin and he must liberate the death camps and kill major nazis officers and at the end kill hitler then the protagonist realized after the war how evil stalin was and so he killed him
Hitler hated secret societies. Most likely he'd fight both the Templars and Assassins.
Ubisoft would never have you play as a German soldier in the 1930s-40s lmao. Maybe once when they actually had ambition and weren't absurdly safe with everything they made. I remember seeing AC2 namedropping Kraft foods as an Abstergo/Templar company and was mind blown. Would never happen today.
Realistically, Hitler would be a rogue third party, and either Churchill or Roosevelt would be a Templar or ex Templar and the other an assassin in tense alliance to beat this dangerous new third party. Hitler was against the existing global order and obsessed with the occult, but his only significant tie that lasted to any international organization was his membership in the holy fascist alliance (a pact between Hitler, Mussolini, and the pope)
Everytime I read bout the conspiracies in AC universe I just recall wendigoon famous line "and remember kids, the next time someone tells you "the government wouldn't do that" ... Oh yes they would!"
Not only would they, bit they probably already have.
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@@austinveno6743 ikr? There's always something that you don't know till you dig it yourself lol (sorry for late reply)
@@onlyenzoYT I love him too brother
it‘s also funny how people mute people by calling them conspiracy theorists altough they were right more than the useless gov we all have
My favourite AC theory is that the "Precursor box" is a miniature Animus, and the whole reason the Animus project got started.
The box is a piece of Eden that pops up in a lot of AC media and games (most notably in Rogue)
Once supplied with electricity, the box displays holographic projections of stored knowledge.
in AC Chronicles Russia, it even awoke the genetic memories of Shao Jun inside the Russian princess Anastasia.
Wow
Crazy theory - Ubisoft was Assassin's order trying to make people aware of crazy stuff by games and then templars took over them and that's why the new games are poorly worked on and doesn't make sense on the most part
Dude....😱😱😱
That's just a theory, a game theory. ;)
And AC Shadows has black main character so people get more divided 🙀🙀(controversy = division)
Hold on 🤔 I think you might be on something
True
The First World War would be a great setting for assassins creed
Thats in syndicate for a bit bro ya its not the whole setting but we got it
Great idea actually
yeah but who s going to be new main character and voice actor for future Assassin s creed games ?
@@mateostefancic4015 We do have a good start with Lydia Frye
An ac game where you assassinate Hitler would be absolutely insane
Ngl that would be absolutely fire. But no way ubisoft would have the balls to do that.
Hitler is overrated. I rather have them include Tojo instead. But Ubisoft lacked intergrity and balls
Should be interesting if hitler is siding with the assassin
I wonder who the Assassins would side with in the American civil war, would they be on the side of state and individual rights or on the side of slaves
I'm not saying the American Civil War was about state rights I'm just asking whose side would the Assassins take
@@samueljonathan6101Aganist the bad people?
My hot take: Ubisoft is Abstergo, AKA, Templar order. They trying to poison us by intentionally make bad AC game
Ubisoft did become the things they spoke out against in both AC and Watchdogs, that is one of the reasons why they killed off Watchdogs and watered down AC.
And I even believe they are chasing that ESG money which sounds like something the Templars would partake in, even Blackrock who pushes that sounds similar to Abstergo.
So I believe what you said definitely ain’t a bad take.
@@redcobra6016Rockstar did that too. Constantly satirizing greedy capitalism, but then GTA Online happened.
@@Mephilis78 Rockstar became everything they used to parody now. And there was even that time where they made fun of Mark Zuckerberg, and now they are working with him on some VR ports.
What if the animus, assassins, and templars are real, and ubisoft is making games based loosely on real events to make us think it's too absurd to really happen.
That’s the devs. They did that in ac4 cuz the developers prob hate their highe ups who are 80 year old cronies
One theory I have is that deadsec from watchdogs was founded by an assassin to round up hackers and create a hackers group to target Abstergo industries and discover their secrets. I also suspect Rebecca, who worked with Desmond and laylah is a deadsec member.
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I love Assassins creed because if this lore so much. This is so intersting and I always learn so much in your videos
Ubisoft: non of our games are connected or share a universe thats all fan speculation.
Also Ubisoft: Abstergo and the animus is Canon in all our games
Edit: Also Also Ubisoft: xdefiant doesnt connect all our games together even though they all share the same universe and timelines, trust us
Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed isn't connected, but there is a whole storyline with the Brotherhood and Templars and a playable Assassin in Legion... Right.
Not to forget that even Far Cry is part of the same "universe" as seen in FC3
You straight up kill your present day boss from AC4 in a convoy mission in Watch Dogs 1, lol.
@@ICEDEFENDER69that's a genuine Easter egg. It's just that we see an abandoned facility with the Abstergo logo on it.
They are connected lol
@@theoutlaw69cowboy66not according to Ubisoft
Idc what Ubi says, AC and WD are still in the same universe in my head xD
Same here
I agree. What would be the point in having so much content from both franchises bleed into each other as well as having a crossover? There are more subtle ways of referencing games made by the same company.
@@Ash-Winchester and it also just makes sense, I mean blume is literally the Templar order they everything in common they want world domination and constant surveillance with ctos it just makes too much sense.
Bruh they literally released a crossover dlc for legion that was about assassin's creed. You just can't tell me with a straight face that they aren't connected.
@@Ash-WinchesterExactly this. Like what do they have to lose by saying the two series are connected? A better example of "just easter eggs" is the Abstergo logo showing up in one of the Far Crys as one small detail, and not a whole damn DLC crossover.
Nah, AC and WD are connected. The devs are wrong.
Easter eggs are small non consequential things. Whole ass missions mean they are connected.
Plus even if it was meant as shared Easter eggs having the same events in two different games (Aiden killing the Templar) makes it a cannon event in both universes thus connecting them, they might have plausible deniability, if they only had the Easter egg in watchdogs but them adding it to a mainline AC game removes that deniability
The same goes for the syndicate Easter eggs, had they just made the “searched Jacob Frye descendants” part standalone then I could believe it was just a nod to the AC games but adding the statues and tombs kinda pushes it past a nod
When it comes to Assassin's creed my first thing come in my mind is your videos
thats so dope to hear!
@@TheHiddenOne690 because ur thoughts for ac whether it's bad thing about it or good thing about it , it always matches with my thoughts
They may say that they are just making Easter Eggs, but how does that mean that universes are not the same?
If Rockstar added Abstergo on some company list it would be a genuine Easter Egg, but if Ubisoft, the makers of Assassin's Creed AND Watch Dogs do it... then I feel like it is obvious that they are set in the same space and time.
Idk how to explain it, screw it.
Those two are connected. Assassin dlc in Legion
They just tryna save their lazy asses from having to look out for lore discrepancies between 2 games in future titles
They're made by 2 different branch of the global company.
I think I left a similar comment on another video of yours, but just because Ubisoft say that the franchises aren't connected doesn't mean they actually aren't. For example, Square Enix has claimed repeatedly that Drakengard/Drag-On Dragoon, Nier, and SinoAlice are entirely separate franchises that aren't connected at all - in fact, if you check out Grimoire Nier (the book explaining all the backstory and lore of Nier), the dragon appearing in Tokyo is alluded to very vaguely... even though that's literally the ending of Drakengard 1, and the dragon and its rider are that game's protagonists. Same goes for SinoAlice, the latest update to Nier: Reincarnation confirms that the settings of both games, the "Library" of SinoAlice and the "Cage" of Nier: Reincarnation are one and the same, and yet on paper they're standalone franchises - the SinoAlice artbook makes no mention of Nier, and the crossovers with it and Drakengard are considered non-canon.
Honestly, I think it's just a weird legal thing. I'm not a lawyer, so don't quote me on this - but there could be very good reasons why Ubisoft need to legally cover their butts and avoid giving any lawyer the excuse to claim that Watch_Dogs and Assassin's Creed are actually the same franchise, should it come to that in court.
That does sound pretty reasonable. Maybe there's disputes with different ubisoft employees/ex employees that worked on both franchises, so they could've for the sake of legal reasons just said its not connected.
My theory is that Abstergo is behind Ubisoft and they make AC Games to make it seem like its fake, but obviously theyre not the same games we know
Assassin's Creed, Watch Dogs. And Far Cry are all linked together.
Great video! I’ve had a idea for a assassin’s creed game that involves 2 or 3 diff characters storylines (kind of like gta5 but not really) where the players characters are changing possibly dying and their story would seem to be separate until towards the end we see how it’s all interconnected.
I still think it would be plausible to take downloaded memories and place them in biologically cloned bodies via Isu Technology thus bringing the characters back to life. It'd be a good way to fix certain story left undone such as questioning/redeeming Lucy, Ezio meeting Desmond, the Kenways making amends, Arno finally fighting Shay and avenging his father, etc.
That copy and like all copies they would be fake. Eventually diverging from the original personality.
I still think having an AC set during WW2 would be a good setting since it would set up Hitler and his people in a perfect situation with them as Templars since in real life, Hitler believed in the occult and he would want to use a piece of Eden to try to win. the MC could even be a Jewish person who escaped a camp early on and met with a member of the assassins and trained with the end goal to be ending the upper echelon of the Nazis
Ubisoft said they'd never do that because if they implemented semi auto/automatic weapons it would just become another third person shooter, which sucks but they have a point.
@@James_Randalwhen did they say this?
I believe there is another reason why they won’t make a game in that setting, and that is they are afraid of the controversy it will come with.
Except Hitler actively hated secret societies and had members of them arrested. Which honestly would make for a better story, having Hitler working against both Assassins and Templars
@@James_RandalDesmond's silenced pistol in AC3 is semi auto.
@@Mephilis78 you only use that in once instance that doesn't count.
I don't know if it's rally conspiracy but I remember in one of the novels they explained the reason Cortes was able to conquer Tenochtitlan and the Aztec Empire so easily was because his blade was a piece of Eden and I think later in the story it gets passed down to Ulysses Grant which is how he was able to win the American Civil War
Since I don’t work for Ubisoft, I can only speculate…but…
I suspect that they said it’s “just Easter eggs” because they don’t want people to expect a game where the two factions work together.
Making a dlc that is a short story with the two interacting and committing to a full game involving that are two different things.
It’s probably just not something they want to take on.
Assassins creed lore is awesome
So mad that they never kept Desmond being able to time travel as the main story. Patrice was probably pissed 😢
I hate that ac decided to expand into comics and wasted so many great ideas and events that could have been portrayed in the game
You should do an AC Iceberg video!
I've already made one
Imagine an assassins creed game during the mongol empire time and we see Genghis khan as a side character
They can even make him as a templar grandmaster (according to me😅)
He would've been a third faction like selim or napoleon... A man who looks for power but not actually a Templar
Yah it can be but he would be more powerful and can be shown as a beast like figure
@@deyenterprises9003 bro he's already buffed irl imagine having the artifact with him
@@saadkhaion9234 he would end the whole humanity I quess 😂
He was assassinated by a mongolian assassin in the auditore villa statues im pretty sure@@saadkhaion9234
I genuinely don’t think it’s just Easter eggs. I will die on it
I have a theory about the Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 AD. My theory is that the eruption was caused by someone messing with a Piece of Eden like the one Shay accidentally set off that caused the Lisbon Earthquake.
Nope. I dont care what the developers say, the higher ups in Ubisoft say about the Watchdogs universe being separate from the AC universe. To me, they're connected. They're perfect as an interconnected universe.
I feel like with that last bit of that guy saying it’s just Easter eggs and aren’t linked as of WD2 would have been true but with WDL that statement would no longer be accurate as before it was small missable details but in Legion with the entire small section of the assassin character would prove that statement wrong as of like 2020-2022
I’ve heard the theory that Ubisoft is actually Abstergo.
But I think a more likely theory is that Ubisoft is actually controlled by the Assassins, not the Templars/Abstergo.
After all, given how the Templars *are the bad guys* in the AC games, wouldn’t it make more sense for the company making those games to be the Assassins?
AC game during Hitler's reign would be terrifying, amazing, & awesome!
Ac4 explains why no modern history AC games will happen.
One reason given via email through the heads of abstergo entertainment, they mention that The catatonic state of people driving/flying in the animus can cause serious issues... in fact in that same email they explain quite a bit of what can and cant work in the animus.
Wild to have that title with that thumbnail
There’s more conspiracy theories in universe than I realized
The Interface ship, I love that pink word thing
Borris Pash was a real life American military official. He is notable for hating the Soviet Union and even killed many Russians. Most people would probably know him for investigating Robert Oppenheimer during the Los Alamos project even appearing in the Oppenheimer movie from last year.
Just a quick reminder to those who don't know what conspiracy theory means. Conspiracy theory doesn't mean "a theory that's automatically wrong". A conspiracy theory is simply a theory someone has about two people or a group of people who are plotting against another person or another group of people. Hence the term conspiracy.
Conspiracy: Two or more people plotting against another person or group of people
Theory: an idea used to account for a situation or justify a course of action.
Ill always connect AC and WD as it can be explained that the game mentioned in that data breach or the movie posters can all be seen as Abstergo making them to try and expose the Creed
There is a lot of untapped story involving the weird relationship between the Mad Monk - Rasputin & his relationship with Nicholas II & his wife, Alexandra. I'm not sure what side of the fight Rasputin would actually be on, but I assum the Templars. He became well known in Russia due to being very excentric with his beliefs of the afterlife & the fact that he helped heal the prince, who auffered from a free bleesing disease. There are a lot of rumors that he was actually pulling the royal strings at that time & convinced Nicholas II to go fight in the war & people speculate he did this because of a relationship he had with the Empress. Long story short, a few of Nicholas II's advisors were fed up with Rasputin & ordered him to be killed. The man was fed copius amounts of poison, was shot in the chest & castrated, then rolled up into a rug while being tied up. Well, his body was founs and he had untied himself and had water in his lungs (meaning he was still alive and fighting after all that)
What's wild is that AC's take on JFK is similar to Treyarchs take on JFK
the Watch Dogs guy wasn't a member they just hired him to do jobs.
It would be insane an AC in WWII. The dynamics between Hitler and the Templars, the use of the apple for mass control, assassins infiltrated in the reich and strugling to win the war would be such a cool narrative.
Very few times we feel oppressed in an Assassin's Creed game, despite the assassins almost everytime been in disadvantage. This would be a perfect opportunity to make an Assassin's Creed game were you really feel what is at stake. We fail, the world goes totally to shit.
Imagine going through all terrible shit, almost not been able to win the war just to find out thar Hitler escaped and now you're tasked to intercept him and kill him. That would be such a cool concept for an Assassin's Creed game
I've been waiting for this for years.
A random Nazi, tasked with some of the bizarre, occult "adventures" could be an incredible piece of writing.
Ive always had wondered about things like this
Where are you getting the CGI footage? I haven't seen some of these and they are cool AF
Which parts?
They can’t gaslight us into thinking watchdogs and Assassin’s Creed aren’t in the same universe
Assassins creed and watchdogs are a strange cannon. They aren’t explicitly stated but there are certain things that must be cannon. The best way to think about it is that they are their own universes. But both universes has a version of the other. So the watchdogs timeline has a alternate AC timeline WITHIN, and vice versa
So no one has mentioned but in far cry 3 there is a side quest where you go through an old abstergo facility.
Something I would like to see is an Assassin's Creed setting in WW2 with the main game set during the war, and one of the expansions is set in the Soviet Union in the early 1950s, where your goal is to assassinate Joseph Stalin. The other expansion could be set in South America in the mid-late 1960s, where you are trying to hunt down and kill the last remaining Nazis who survived the war.
The greatest conspiracy theory of ac is on the templars.
For the comments that watchdogs and Assassins creed do not exist together, coming from the dev team itself. Please remember these are also the people who forgot that Assassins creed takes place in history and that magic, and mythological creatures should not exist
I got interested in watch dogs from this video until the ubisoft employee said nope. Oh well.
I work near the Ubisoft Building and what you see with the AC movie poster is the same building located in San Francisco
I don't know which gaming studio needs to hear this but referencing the video game is an "easter egg", but adding main story elements like an assassin tomb and a hidden blade are direct connections and a shared universe.@Ubisoft
Think about it, almost all of the games too afraid to use the swastika already use The Iron Cross which is similar to the Templar symbol. On top of that with the fear of firearms being too overpowered, you could easily use this as a propellant for exaggerated stealth. Which in my opinion (I hate to say it) only mirage has done an extraordinary job at. So it would still be relatively new (Note: AC Shadows is not released at the time of this comment).
i think the main thing with watch dogs and assassins creed is that the brotherhood and Aiden
Pearce exist in both universes
15:48 yea I call bs. Bro is head of essentially gameplay. Not trusting him at all
That my friends, is called Denial.
The sad part for me is assassin's Creed lore could be so much better if there was just some sort unified story
So the watchdogs guys are the Assassin allies the Initiates.
It's perfect.
Can’t wait till the new ac multiplayer comes out and it will be epic if they keep some of the best classic game modes and maps and characters along with the new stuff
15:16 fun fact, there's abstergo documents in far cry 3 as well
As far as I know. The 2 universes being connected of watch dogs and AC was true. You take out AC4s Garnaeu in Watch Dogs. And there is a photo of it in Origins. But they ended up retconning it in WD:L and the assassin dlc character isn't a canon character
Just imagine AC and CODBO1 crossing paths at JFK assassination. That would be crazy lol.
A assassins creed game set in WW2 would be lit
I don't care who says what but I strongly believe that an AC game in WWI would be amazing
Wait, you definitively say a time travelling, invisible WW2 battleship is real?
Watch dogs is definitely the assassin, brotherhood and modern world and I hope it will come back
If anybody is interested in a similar open-world parkour game set during WW2, I'd recommend checking out The Saboteur, you play as an irishman in nazi-occupied france and you can climb anything. Good mix of GTA and AC.
This franchise had so much potential but modern gamming ruined it 😢
Sorry but AC not being connected to WD is just dumb after so many evidence
Hell, even the name "The Foc" given to Aiden Pierce is similar to La Volpe
Nah when I think of assassin's creed I think of shay from ac rouge non stop saying "I make me own luck"
Assassin's Creed: Threads of War
This concept takes you on a journey through the Assassin-Templar conflict during two of the most brutal wars in history: World War I and World War II.
The Setting:
The game offers a dual-timeline experience.
In the Animus, you explore memories of two different Assassins:
WWI: You play as a nimble Assassin caught between empires in a war fueled by Templar manipulation. Explore war-torn landscapes like the Western Front, bustling cities under occupation, and exotic locations tied to hidden Templar operations.
WWII: Take on the role of a resourceful Assassin navigating a world engulfed in global conflict. Explore iconic cities like London, Berlin, and Cairo, each with hidden Templar strongholds and resistance movements.
Open World Design:
Each timeline features a large, open world with diverse environments:
WWI: Traverse trench networks, ruined villages, sprawling battlefields, and bustling cities under occupation.
WWII: Explore wartorn European cities, sprawling deserts of North Africa, and bustling Middle Eastern markets.
Stealth and parkour mechanics are crucial, allowing you to navigate war-torn environments and crowded cities.
Each open world offers side quests, historical landmarks to explore, and hidden Templar secrets to uncover.
Story and Gameplay:
The narrative focuses on the Assassins' struggle to prevent the Templars from exploiting the chaos of war to further their control.
You'll encounter historical figures caught in the conflict, some unwittingly pawns of the Templars.
Gameplay blends classic Assassin's Creed elements with war-themed challenges:
Stealth Assassinations: Utilize the environment and distractions created by the war to eliminate Templar targets.
Guerilla Warfare: Assist resistance movements in sabotaging Templar operations and disrupting war efforts fueled by Templar influence.
Historical Gear: Wield iconic weapons of the era alongside Assassin-crafted tools and gadgets adapted for war.
Gadget Adaptations: The Hidden Blade could be modified for silent takedowns in gas masks or trench warfare.
Moral Choices: The war presents difficult decisions, forcing you to choose between protecting civilians and achieving your objectives.
Considerations:
The sensitive nature of these wars requires a respectful portrayal that acknowledges the historical tragedies without glorifying violence.
The focus on stealth and assassination would likely be emphasized to maintain the core Assassin's Creed identity, with open warfare used for specific missions or environmental hazards.
This concept offers a unique opportunity to explore the Assassin-Templar conflict during a period of immense historical upheaval. The open world design allows players to experience the diverse landscapes and complexities of these wars, while the story challenges them to navigate a world shaped by both historical events and the ongoing struggle between the Assassins and Templars.
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The problem about The Assassin's Creed and Watch Dogs Easter egg is that Ubisoft doesn't explain what actually happened to Oliver.
So despite saying it's not connected is entirely untrue because how else would you explain it.
Make a lets play video!
We need this
If I was to do a let's play style video. I'd probably stream it as let's plays are a thing of the past.
Yeah
I really enjoyed this video
As soon as I saw Aiden Pearce all those years ago I just had an itching feeling he had some connection to the brotherhood. Even compared to the other watchdogs no one is that good
Actually Hitler died in Indonesia. In a small town called Garut.
De Glocke, any COD Der Riese fans? And the conspiracy about JFK kinda reminds me the plot of CODBO1.
Bro why’d he have to ruin the fun in having a lore about the AC universe and watchdogs being connected. Garnaeu’s death to the brotherhood/aiden makes it worth while in not seeing him at all. But having the historical figures/ events changed in a way is crazy.
AC exists in watchdogs but Watchdogs does not exist in AC, we literally play an assassin in legion
Bring back these types of ac games
Id say subsidiaries. Blume and Ubisoft are Subsidiaries of Abstergo... Pretty sure that's there are even blatant hints and references like the use of Ctos and the fact the brotherhood has made use of hackers like Shaun and Rebecca. So its not to far of a leap. Despite the head creative lead saying otherwise... I don't understand why they don't say they are and have the Watch Dogs Legion be the fallen timeline of the Brotherhood or something... But i can see many people disliking that idea so meh. Would probably draw more attention to Watchdogs series.
(Edit was to fix the spelling of Shauns name)
The idea of "killing Hitler before his rise" is weird when you try to do it in 1943. Why not before or during WW1? Before WW1 would be the easiest, he won't be armed, he won't have an army and bodyguards of his own. If that would stop WW2, however, who knows. But 1943 is a really odd choice to try to do that lol
Is Abstergo also in Far Cry? I don't remember which one. Is it a DLC or something, you go inside a building find a bunch of files or something talking about Templars and Assassins
Far cry 3.
2:09 "Before going back in time 10 seconds and returning to Philadelphia"
Is it 10 seconds forward or backward?
imagine Hitler in the game has a plan to start ww3 in south America
Pretty sure there was an AC reference in one of the Far Cry games as well.
Hearing mention of Die Glocke in a video not about CoD Zombies is slightly offputting to me idk why (im big into both AC and CoDZ lore, and they both use the real life Die Glocke for lore)
Bro, the entire CoD zombies lore is based on the Tunguska meteor event, according to that lore, a space rock containing large amounts of element 115 was what landed at Tunguska, element 115 is responsible for reanimating the dead, creating wonder weapons like the Ray Gun, and anything else mythical is explained simply by "Element 115"
Same here. Love both game's lore a lot. I like that both take advantage of these mysterious historical events and put their own twist on it. I had cod zombies in mind throughout the whole video while he was explaining all of this lol.
The reason Ubisoft won’t go into the JFK assassination or WWII for a game is because they are too recent of events which makes it too difficult to fudge details of the story to fit the lore of the franchise.
First mention of what happened to Oliver was in rogue.
Even if it wasn't worth a full game an assassin's Creed that took place in actual ancient rome. Ww1'2 nam would have been badass. I know we got a snippet of world war 1 but it wasn't enough
I heard there is a mention of Jesus in AC an essentially he was js a normal man not the son of God not affiliated wit the Templars or Assassins an tht the miracles he performed were bcos he had an shroud of Eden wen the Romans heard of these under the control of the Templars they arrested, tortured, then crucified him and took the shroud his followers retrieved the shroud to try to resurrect him but all attempts failed
There is. He was an user of the shroud of Eden in AC lore. Clay Kaczmarek (Subject 16) confirms this in The Truth puzzles in AC II although i dont remember exactly which glyph it is. They do it by setting the shroud besides Christ nailed to the cross.
I find it so cool how they put their own twist on these old biblical figures and stories in a way that makes them feel a bit more believable to me.
Jesus was an ally of the Hidden Ones (Assassins)
A modern day ac would be awesome
How you forget about Aya killing Julius Cesar right before Brutus stepped in?
Now let's be honest you and me both know that is complete bs when he said WD and AC are not in the same universe and Easter egg reference my foot because why make a side request and a DLC if they not in the same universe that doesn't make sense at all and great video