Sorry for the unusual beginning and ending, even though Queen was the perfect touch for the video, it triggered a copyright claim so I had to edit it out. Lesson learned.
The problem with getting rid of Gemini is it takes out a good “stepping stone” coaster. As a kid, I would’ve had a really hard time getting to the bigger coasters (Magnum, Millennium) without it. I just think it gets rid of a pretty good middle ground coaster that would be missed.
F P Maverick’s height requirement is higher than Gemini’s, but it also more intense than Gemini. No it’s not the biggest, but it’s definitely not a good stepping stone coaster.
My brother was the most anti coaster you can get. His stepping stone coaster as a 17 year old was corkscrew... hopped right on gate keeper and steel vengeance after
@@AirtimeThrills it's been okay, better than years past for sure. Though it typically doesn't run in the cold, but since it's its first off season with the new system we'll see how much is need in regards to maintenance by how soon it reopens.
Honestly I wont miss it. The first time I rode it the lapbars weren't working, which was whatever but the thing is I had my thumb pointing straight up underneath the handbar when it randomly slammed down, causing my nail (which was like 5 cm long) to slam down deep into my skin.
A lot longer, I posted a full comment with my thoughts, but they have a few open spots for a new coaster before they would even have to think about removing a ride. Also Gemini is constantly in the top 5 for ridership in the park, its staying for a long time.
@@CoasterCollege that is nice. My 2nd favorite coaster in the park and my favorite arrow. Then again, I have only ridden 38 coasters, because I am super limited, and and only a teen.
Architect Playz I would play Planet Coaster more if it weren’t too laggy on my computer. I’m probably gonna get it when it comes out on PS4, unless a Switch release is announced in the near future
Cameron Photography , I agree! Take a listen o Mr Nightmare and let me know what you think of his voice. I find it relaxing yet scary at the same time 😂😂🤔🤔👻👻😂😂
I don’t think Gemini will be removed anytime soon. It has a lot of historic value as opening as the worlds tallest coaster in the 70s. It’s also a really high capacity ride, something Cedar Point really needs. In my opinion, Cedar Creek Mine ride is in more danger. It takes up an even bigger plot of land, with it never having a line, even when the parks at capacity. CCMR can also supply parts for Gemini, which has more historic value blah blah blah
True. As sentimental at CCMR is for me, it being my first coaster that wasn’t a Camp Snoopy ride, I think the possibility of it being removed is gradually increasing.
Meh I don’t care about either I’m not gonna lie the only old coasters I’m attached to are Magnum and Blue Streak which aren’t going anywhere anytime soon although I was sad when they tore down wicked twister
The worst is when you have been wanting to ride a coaster for a long time, and just before you get to, it gets removed. That's what happened with Volcano at Kings Dominion. I had been waiting to ride it for years, and it got removed just before I could ride it.
The thing is the reason Rolling Thunder did not get the RMC treatment is because the company was way too young at the time and do not have the experience they have today.
TigerRocks503 Aka: Chase Apparently Six Flags wanted to RMC Rolling Thunder but RMC declined because the ride was so poorly maintained and wasn’t adequate for a hybrid. Sucks because it’s my home park.
One of the reasons I wish Cedar Fair decided to axe Corkscrew instead of Wicked Twister since those Impulse coasters like it are hard to come by, but unfortunately historic value can trump a lot of stuff.
Right?? I wanted to ride wicked twister…it’s the best version of an overhead impulse coaster. The discovery kingdom flash right is lame that its twisted spike is at an angle (stupid city ordinances), and the straight up spike is boring. Having two vertical twisted spikes sounds like fun…well like it would have been.
Before even watching the video, I can guess that this video will mostly be old Arrow loopers, rough woodies, and unreliable Intamins. Also two videos in a row, thanks dude!
Capital Thrills yeah that would be nice. But for now we’re stuck with slcs and boomerangs. Oh, and one of the worst coasters ever built, Goliath at SFNE.
@@rivertownproductions definitely debatable and to each their own but I feel like outside of Yukon, Levi, Behemoth, and Vortex there is much left to be desired with regards to the rest of the park.
You and ElToryRyan are probably the best roller coaster channels. Some are more fancy, but don't have the same personality. I find that to be the most important part of a YT channel.
Im sad I never got to go on Deja Vu and I really hope Viper stays. Its so aesthetically pleasing from the sight of that high up loop to the sounds of the chainlift.
4:05 I can tell you first hand that they aren’t going to scrap The Demon. They just finished renovating it with some of its original theming from 1980, so it’s here to stay. The Grizzly, however, is always closed. It opens late every day and it’s definitely on the chopping block.
I agree with you demon ain't going nowhere a lot of work has gone into that coaster and it feels much smoother than before the grizzly on the other hand may get the RMC treatment
Oh man, Goliath @ SFNE was one of the few times I've felt genuinely afraid to get on a coaster. Those restraints felt like coffins, and the track was very bumpy.
It's not the track it's the crappy trains, when it had the Vekoma trains it was smooth as butter and much more reliable. SFNE needs to scrap the Premier trains and call up Vekoma
I always found it odd that Morgan came in and made Phantom a top ten coaster then never got called again. I also find it odd that Chance made a terrific airtime machine with the Hyper GTX that was really well received and never got called again (I really think Knott's could use one of these!). Wouldn't it be cool if Chance got called in to convert some of these larger Arrow's into ridiculous airtime machines? Could you imagine Viper as a 186ft tall airtime monster? That would be so cool! It just seems to me something could be done to these aging Arrow's instead of just scrapping them.
"There is a law preventing RMC from doing their work in canada" Me: sad canadian noises Holy crap, with this amount of support we can take this to the parlement!
JadenTheRobRenzettiFan NAUTTP Why didn’t Paramount build a South Park at CW? Is it because it’s too mature? Or because Time Warner co-owned Comedy Central at the time?
3 Options for CW: 1. Remove Wilde Beast and The Bat and Speed City Raceway and add a ground up RMC Hybrid like Zadra. 2. Remove Flight Deck and Time Warp and add a Record breaking wing coaster. 3. A Mack Extreme Spinning Coaster were action theatre is.
I’ll take an RMC Wilde Beast as long as they make a Fraggle Rock reboot and use it for a Traveling Matt segment. I also want a spin off of Step by Step and use Twisted Colossus in the opening.
My home park is Six flags Great America and eagle is the by far the most painful coaster at the park( some people may disagree because of demon) but I think some sort of RMC similar to twisted colossus or possibly a raptor I would love to see either though.
@@invertedthrills144 I guess that's why it was removed. It wasn't so bad, but I noticed on rcdb that all of Kings Island's looping coasters pulled greater than 3gs. I think they need a "low intensity" "family" inverting looping coaster.
In graphic design, we had this project where we would make a “vision board”, after which, we went around rating other peoples’ vision boards. We had to give one good thing and one bad thing about each one. One of the bad things I wrote were: “You put Viper in your vision board”
Really wish they could have maintained American Eagle better. Been there several times now and I don’t know if I ever remembered both sides being open, but it always looks cool when you’re going by on the highway. It needs a retrack bad, I wouldn’t want to see it go.
@@SomeRandomAccount5 to retrack Wildcat, no doubt. Depends if it's just a retrack or they want retrofit. Haven't seen them do one. I'm sure they could fit something there. I believe there is space around the ride even.
I see CP removing the mine ride before Gemini. The longest wait I've ever seen for it is 10 minutes, which was on the literal busiest day they've ever had.
@@TheSonicsean That's because it has a height requirement of 48in. What else has a 48in requirement at CP? Well Gemini, Magnum, Millenium Force, and Blue Streak. Why the hell would anyone that height want to ride the boring mine ride when they can ride any of those? If CP replaced the trains so smaller kids could ride CCMR could be a decent family coaster but instead it's unloved.
@@danielles3841 it holds tremendous sentimental value for many but takes up prime real estate in the park and is in pretty big danger of getting closed soon.
Valleyfair is my home park, and, I agree, Excalibur is doomed. I’m surprised it wasn’t higher on your list. It’s tucked way back in the back of the park and hardly anyone goes back there anymore. When I first moved to Minnesota in 1990, it was a really big deal, but that was when Valleyfair only had about 3 coasters.
If Time Warp gets sent to my home park, I’m gonna file a class action lawsuit against Cedar Fair, Zamperla, Paramount, Mutual Film Company, Square Enix, Canada, and Muskegon.
I think others on this list should be(wanted to mention 2 good slc’s, Riddles Revenge and Fly-The Great Nor’ Easter Sea Serpent- Morey’s piers Skull Mountain- Six Flags Great Adventure The Wildcat- Lake Compound( don’t know how to spell) Canobie Corckscrew- Canobie Lake Park Flying Ace Arial Chase- Carrowinds Rougorou- Cedar Point(again with the spelling) Mind Eraser- Elitch Gardens,Darien Lake, Six Flags America El Condor- Walibi Belgium
Coaster Fusion We are like the same person, comment everywhere, both subbed to smaller coaster channels, Home park is SFOT. Coincidence, I think not...
12:09 I REMEMBER ! Goliath was a huge upgrade to flashback ! I was hoping they got rid of flashback back then to put a launch coaster of some sort. It’s really unfortunate they haven’t been able to fix the problems. Haven’t been to New England in years since moving to California :( I loved that ride other than Superman !
Your an employee right? So I heard Eagle is getting new trains? Is this true......I hope it does as it would be stupid to close the ride just cause the park is to lazy to replace the old trains........I’m really scared about American Eagle....I get its old...but I love it the way it is.....but I do wish the park would race it again as they don’t do it anymore possibly due to stress/ structural issues on the helix, and reports of rowdy guests throwing objects at each other while the trains are racing. I wish the park would repair and refurbish the coaster to get it racing again.....but I feel the park president Hank Salemi is not gonna do it......As cool of an RMC redo would be.....I’m just worried the coasters layout would be cut in half like with Twisted Cyclone. Plus I really dig the name too. Im dreading the day when it is announced to close..... 😰🥺😥
@@tigerrocks503chase8 I have no idea, I don't work with eagle, but I can *probably* say that that rumor is false, and us employees are told nothing, lol never trust anybody, but from what it seems eagle is going to stay for the time being.
Well that relieves my stress a bit.....but I’m still bothered by the fact that the park needs to fix the issue with it not racing anymore. A talked to a employee one day working at Eagle. Only blue was running and the line was pretty long which is annoying as running the red side would of made the capacity much better, even if they can’t duel it. So after I got off the blue train....I asked one of the employees why it does not duel anymore? He simply told me that they are not allowed to anymore.....kinda stinks as it kinda defeats the purpose of a racing coaster.
As of April 2024, over four years later, you guessed three correct - 13. Wicked Twister (closed 2021), 8. Wildcat (closed 2022, RMCed 2023 -- as you guessed), and 5. Goliath/SFNE (closed 2019). Desperado is still SBNO. The video date is 12/3/2019 so there are still eight months to go...
It's sad that the alleged plans for the spot in the park isn't even gonna be for a new coaster either. There's rumors of it just being a staff parking lot
Vortex at kings island was absolutely my favorite ride for nostalgia reasons. I will definitely miss it. I got on it for the last time during the last weekend of haunt, and they had put the dates up and took pictures. Very sad
SHOCK-A-PEEEEE. I love Excalibur. It’s a great coaster, however I’m sad valleyfair never gets anything new and is “second class” cause it my home park. Along with Nickelodeon universe 🙄
I think Superman at Six Flags Magic Mountain days are numbered. Six Flags sent out that survey a while back about some concepts regarding that area. Also Tower of Terror II which is the other coaster like Superman just closed down in November. Plus Six Flags is only running one side of the train. With the money they have pumped into Viper it would not surprise me that Superman goes first and then Viper down the line.
I'm one of the few people who really doesn't like Superman Escape From Krypton. I mean, it's not terrible. It's just boring and REALLY LOUD! And with the new homes going up around the park... I think you're onto something.
@@DoswarePictures The one problem with that theory is that Intamin's Xcelerator, the very first version of their Accelerator coasters (these include Kingda Ka, Top Thrill Dragster, etc) exists at a Cedar Fair park about an hour away in Orange County. I'm not sure Six Flags would want to replicate that ride so close to a park that already has such a thing.
Josh Green I see what you mean, although both parks have B&M inverts. While they opened 10 years apart, It’s been a longer period since now and the opening of Xcellerator. And I was thinking of a coaster twice as tall as Xcellerator.
@@DoswarePictures Oh for sure if Six Flags went in that direction it'd be massive in scale. It'd probably be taller than Kingda Ka. Though an accelerator coaster would be wider than the area that Superman currently inhabits. We'll have to see!
My all-time favorite arrow coaster is definitely Tennessee Tornado at Dollywood. It's such a good ride with a short wait, beautiful layout built on a mountain, and a beautiful view. I hope it never gets taken down.
2:17 Cedar Fair's plan was originally to add a coaster at CW every other year, as seen with Leviathan and Wonder Mountain's Guardian, but Yukon got delayed due to CP needing Valravn. confirmed by both parks.
Leviathan in 2012, Wonder Mountain's guardian in 2014, and Yukon was planned for 2016 but was delayed due to CP needing Valravn. looks like every other year to me.
@@lessardo87 2008 Behemoth, 2012 Leviathan, Wonder Mtn is a not really a coaster, 2016 would be again 4 years, they got 2019 Yukon. The plan was every 4 years,...the same as they did with Carowinds. Please stop the nonsense CP "needed" Valravn hence they got it, it was b/c they didn't want to spend more at Wonderland in a short period, CP was a much better ROI. Cedar Point's Revenue & EBIDTA is more than 2x Wonderland. Despite the high attendance Wonderland prices are cheap, hence the finances are not commensurate with attendance. Adjusting for the conversions rate they have cheaper passes than lower end parks like WOF, Dorney, MIA, VF...Wonderland is the Six Flags park of the chain high volume, low prices & 3/4th of the coaster lineup is completely forgettable.
@@lessardo87 Amusement NonInsiders never knows what he's talking about. I have proven him incorrect so many times he has long stopped responding to save his embarrassment & keep is "fans" from knowing how little he actually knows about Cedar Fair, the industry, finance, business, etc...
I have never had any headbanging at all on Viper at SFMM. Granted, I've always sat towards the front, but I find the coaster smooth and I would be sad to see it go.
I would say more likely to take out Tidal wave and use the space that it sits in and where Green Lantern was. They could even keep it a water ride just bigger and updated.
Yes. I never found Viper to be that bad in the way of roughness so I don’t see what the fuss is about with that one. Granted, it’s not the smoothest thing in the world, but it’s not unbearably rough IMO, either.
1. Anything with a recent new paint job has plans to be around for awhile. 2. Valley Fair has such few coasters there that it would be hard to justify a removal, especially without a good replacement. 3. California Great America Grizzly had enough recent track work done to ride almost as smooth as a steel coaster. 4. Cedar Fair also looks at the cost per ride of each person, which may or may not say much, because the best rides probably cost the most. 5. In my opinion, I agree with about 95% of all your opinions, across all your videos.
Another great video! It would of been nice to get a couple predictions for the top coasters to be replaced though. Like what do you wanna see at Magic Mountain or Kings Dominion?! Take care and keep up the fun content!
I love gold rusher, one of my favorite rides.. I know it’s a kiddie ride but gold rusher and ninja are always on my list if I’m walking by and I see no line.
Personally I think Judge Roy Scream at SFOT will get the Axe. It’s an overall rough and boring ride, however, it has some of the prettiest views of any coaster ever. It sits next to a lake and is at a separate area outside of the park. I could see Six Flags adding something really big in the next 10 years there. (Possibly a giga) I also think that Six Flags might buy property where Globe Life Park was.
I like how every time we question if Cedar Point will remove Gemini, it's always something else. We questioned if Wicked Twister or Gemini would be the spot for the new coaster, Wicked Twister got the axe. We questioned if Gemini may be removed to make room for a new coaster, Top Thrill Dragster is either being remodeled or removed. Cedar Fair must be a Gemini fan too cause every time coaster crowds point to Gemini to be removed, they remove something else.
Excalibur would be a great one to remove and replace with something with inversions. Ideally, it would need to be something they can keep higher off of the ground to avoid the flood plane. A raptor seems like it would be a good fit for the park. As for Excalibur itself, it is rough and jerky. The highlight of the ride for me is during the ejector hill at 11:08 in the front seat. It gives you a great pop of air.
It sounds like Canada has a protectionist law saying that you need to use Canadian companies to do work as long as they're qualified to do so before a foreign company is allowed to come in. RMC uses their own builders
They'd better not touch Gemini! I'd sooner believe they would get rid of Corkscrew or Iron Dragon than even *THINK* about removing the park's only racing coaster!
@@tigerrocks503chase8 It is not that park is not allowed to race. It is the fact that the ride is old and wear and tear has set in. The ride is rough in spots especially in the helix. It has been known to shake while racing around the helix.
As a local to Carowinds, I have to say that Carolina cyclone and nighthawk are both coasters that I would love to stay as a time capsule of design, but I'd have no problem for them to get axed in favor of something better if there was good reason to remove them. If anything, I'd love to have a new wooden coaster on the plot of land that houses nighthawk. A lot of people are still very sad and very disappointed that Carolina thunder road was removed.
Hey Airtime Thrills. Fellow Coaster enthusiast and former ride operator (Nickelodeon Universe MN) and im really loving your channel. Just thought Id let you know that the city Vallyfair is located is pronounced "Shaw-co (like co worker)-pee" (Its all good, lots of folks from out of state get it wrong). Also your right about Excalibur, its been on the chopping block even before the expansion. There has been talks of Vallyfair acquiring either a brand new or used B&M Invert. If its a used model, one of the options is said to be one of the former tracks from the Dueling Dragons/Dragons Challenge attraction from Universal Studios.
Sorry for the unusual beginning and ending, even though Queen was the perfect touch for the video, it triggered a copyright claim so I had to edit it out. Lesson learned.
It's Queen, what else did you really expect? (which songs did you use tho?)
Another One Rides the Bus ;p
0MindSwept0 I like you
@@DoswarePictures .........k then
0MindSwept0 I’ve enjoyed Weird Al longer than I’ve been alive.
The problem with getting rid of Gemini is it takes out a good “stepping stone” coaster. As a kid, I would’ve had a really hard time getting to the bigger coasters (Magnum, Millennium) without it. I just think it gets rid of a pretty good middle ground coaster that would be missed.
F P Maverick’s height requirement is higher than Gemini’s, but it also more intense than Gemini. No it’s not the biggest, but it’s definitely not a good stepping stone coaster.
If anything at Cedar Point should get axed, it’s Cedar Creek Mine Ride
@F P I hope that's a joke
My brother was the most anti coaster you can get. His stepping stone coaster as a 17 year old was corkscrew... hopped right on gate keeper and steel vengeance after
Yeah but I am hoping they give Gemini the RMC treatment instead of replacing it
Note: The Flash ALSO received a brand new LIM system in 2019. (Notice how clean they are) and is under contract with DC for the foreseeable future.
Coaster Labs I said the exact thing 👍🏼
Has V2 been up all year for the most part? Before this year it probably seemed more likely
I've been to DK 10 times between June and Oct and everytime I was there it was open.
@@AirtimeThrills it's been okay, better than years past for sure. Though it typically doesn't run in the cold, but since it's its first off season with the new system we'll see how much is need in regards to maintenance by how soon it reopens.
It’s funny how kings island is removing so many coasters when they have a butt load of space
Boi its because there's limited parts and they can cost to much to upkeep for the park
Shofu oh yeah your correct I completely forgot about that
Yeah that’s true, which means you can imply that they aren’t removing these coasters because they need the space.
Shofu this man thought we were in sandbox mode💀
*facepalm
Gemini would break my heart. Love that coaster
Same but if it's to help out a good cause
I got a shirt for that coaster.
Press Y to same
As long as the replacement is worth it, I'd be ok with it.
Honestly I wont miss it. The first time I rode it the lapbars weren't working, which was whatever but the thing is I had my thumb pointing straight up underneath the handbar when it randomly slammed down, causing my nail (which was like 5 cm long) to slam down deep into my skin.
RMC Predator should be named 'Apex Predator'.
Would "Voices" play in the queue line?
Their was a survey several years showing a wooden corkscrew on the Predator and renaming it "Lake Monster"
Just Theme it to Randy Orton and Done Deal LOL
I’ve been saying that since Herschend teased RMC Predator a bunch of years ago...
aMondayMorning
love it
Wow. Looks like the era of Arrow coasters is coming to an end.
Surfer Johnny S&S: hold my beer
nah, most of those arrows will stick around.
@@CoasterCollege how much longer do you think gemini has? I think maybe 2020 could be it's final year.
A lot longer, I posted a full comment with my thoughts, but they have a few open spots for a new coaster before they would even have to think about removing a ride. Also Gemini is constantly in the top 5 for ridership in the park, its staying for a long time.
@@CoasterCollege that is nice. My 2nd favorite coaster in the park and my favorite arrow. Then again, I have only ridden 38 coasters, because I am super limited, and and only a teen.
Gemini is the most under-rated ride at Cedar Point.. Gemini would be a top 5 ride at most parks in the country...
Gemini rules.
Gemeni is underrated.
But it would be top5 at a few parks. Not most
@@quintocreations5091 Yes. most !
Its safe for now wicked twister is leaving after this year so it has at least 5 more years
Hopefully Cedar fair will relocate the ride
I swear your videos are like podcasts - just relaxing to listen to while doing something else
EXACTLY
Like playing planet coaster
Architect Playz I would play Planet Coaster more if it weren’t too laggy on my computer. I’m probably gonna get it when it comes out on PS4, unless a Switch release is announced in the near future
Ikr I was literally doing my homework while listening to this
Cameron Photography , I agree! Take a listen o Mr Nightmare and let me know what you think of his voice. I find it relaxing yet scary at the same time 😂😂🤔🤔👻👻😂😂
I don’t think Gemini will be removed anytime soon. It has a lot of historic value as opening as the worlds tallest coaster in the 70s. It’s also a really high capacity ride, something Cedar Point really needs.
In my opinion, Cedar Creek Mine ride is in more danger. It takes up an even bigger plot of land, with it never having a line, even when the parks at capacity. CCMR can also supply parts for Gemini, which has more historic value blah blah blah
True. As sentimental at CCMR is for me, it being my first coaster that wasn’t a Camp Snoopy ride, I think the possibility of it being removed is gradually increasing.
Meh I don’t care about either I’m not gonna lie the only old coasters I’m attached to are Magnum and Blue Streak which aren’t going anywhere anytime soon although I was sad when they tore down wicked twister
I proposed to my wife on the Gemini and have many other memories with it. At the same time, I got rid of my wife as well.
John Sparks lol
Ross married Rachel on Gemini and got divorced, AGAIN!!!
I guess you could say life is a roller coaster....
Was she hot though?
@@ahhculdee Lets just say the Gemini was more fun but like my wife, allot of people got to ride her.
Theres nothing more heartbreaking than a beloved coaster disappearing, even ones you never got to ride but you knew everyone loved
The worst is when you have been wanting to ride a coaster for a long time, and just before you get to, it gets removed. That's what happened with Volcano at Kings Dominion. I had been waiting to ride it for years, and it got removed just before I could ride it.
If American eagle gets torn down it will be a big waste of potential like rolling thunder
swag tubby American Eagle is my mom’s favorite wooden roller coaster 🤣🤣🤣
Finally someone else thinks six flags wasted an opportunity for an awesome dual RMC coaster
@@bubblegaminglol same
The thing is the reason Rolling Thunder did not get the RMC treatment is because the company was way too young at the time and do not have the experience they have today.
TigerRocks503 Aka: Chase Apparently Six Flags wanted to RMC Rolling Thunder but RMC declined because the ride was so poorly maintained and wasn’t adequate for a hybrid. Sucks because it’s my home park.
It’s a shame to see rare coaster models get the axe.
CR12 that’s why I don’t want Vortex to leave.
And the eagle
Eagle I agree with as well....but an RMC conversion might not be too bad, better than getting bulldozed.
One of the reasons I wish Cedar Fair decided to axe Corkscrew instead of Wicked Twister since those Impulse coasters like it are hard to come by, but unfortunately historic value can trump a lot of stuff.
Right?? I wanted to ride wicked twister…it’s the best version of an overhead impulse coaster. The discovery kingdom flash right is lame that its twisted spike is at an angle (stupid city ordinances), and the straight up spike is boring. Having two vertical twisted spikes sounds like fun…well like it would have been.
I Appreciate you playing Another One Bites The Dust in the beginning
I was just thinking that. It was perfect. That’s KI’s theme song.
If I were to play a Queen song during this video, I would play Bohemian Rhapsody during the Hurler bitz
I’m glad my dad showed me these songs that I’ve never heard because there are so many references in songs that I wouldn’t of known about
KM Productions how many of us haven’t first heard of Queen from our dads?
Dosware Pictures whenever he mentions Steel Vengeance or RMC You’re My Best Friend should play
“Twisted Predator” Welcome to Chris Hansen
Nice
His last name isn’t Hansen.
Dosware Pictures and your point is?
The coaster network 😂😂
jasonbtw yoooooo chilllll💀💀💀💀
If cedar point removes gemini I will never return
Before even watching the video, I can guess that this video will mostly be old Arrow loopers, rough woodies, and unreliable Intamins. Also two videos in a row, thanks dude!
Dont forget Vekomas
Airtime Thrills oh yes! Most of them suck!
@@aaronscibelli7078 I want to see an American (or canadian) park get one of their new models like their top gun model. I think it's called
Capital Thrills yeah that would be nice. But for now we’re stuck with slcs and boomerangs. Oh, and one of the worst coasters ever built, Goliath at SFNE.
_Arrow Mine Train on steroids_
*It’s called a racing mine train thing*
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Danny Ryan before Flashback?
Dosware Pictures I have not even rode both flashbacks.
is Six Flags New England your home park?
@@kotchapakmaneechote2062 Nope, GE
It's amazing how many useless rides there are at Canada's Wonderland. Never has it been such a hindrance to ride 14 coasters.
The Adventure Outpost unpopular opinion, I think Canada’s Wonderland has a very solid top 5, maybe even 6.
@@rivertownproductions definitely debatable and to each their own but I feel like outside of Yukon, Levi, Behemoth, and Vortex there is much left to be desired with regards to the rest of the park.
It’s just like Energylandia. Over half of their lineup is kiddie coasters.
@@DoswarePictures And I bet you that Energylandia's new for 2020 Expansion with the Vekoma Multi Launcher will have at least 1 new Kiddie Coaster too.
Soonjai if I were a Six Flags executive, I would’ve added another kiddie coaster for Magic Mountain so that WCR could still be their 20th coaster.
Id rather have gemini than a dueling gci
You and ElToryRyan are probably the best roller coaster channels. Some are more fancy, but don't have the same personality. I find that to be the most important part of a YT channel.
Im sad I never got to go on Deja Vu and I really hope Viper stays. Its so aesthetically pleasing from the sight of that high up loop to the sounds of the chainlift.
My GP friends: Hey you wanna ride the Anaconda at Kings Dominion?
Me: My Anaconda don't!
The last time I rode that one nobody seemed excited at its end. It’s painful 🤦🏼♀️😂
Wicked twister: September 6, 2021
Goliath: 2020?
4:05 I can tell you first hand that they aren’t going to scrap The Demon. They just finished renovating it with some of its original theming from 1980, so it’s here to stay. The Grizzly, however, is always closed. It opens late every day and it’s definitely on the chopping block.
I agree with you demon ain't going nowhere a lot of work has gone into that coaster and it feels much smoother than before the grizzly on the other hand may get the RMC treatment
Scrap the grizzly please. :)
@@jaydenchrist6152 No
Oh man, Goliath @ SFNE was one of the few times I've felt genuinely afraid to get on a coaster. Those restraints felt like coffins, and the track was very bumpy.
It’s a shell of what could’ve been a good ride
It's the least favorite coaster than I've ridden
It's not the track it's the crappy trains, when it had the Vekoma trains it was smooth as butter and much more reliable. SFNE needs to scrap the Premier trains and call up Vekoma
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv Fair enough. Wish I got a chance to ride it in its original form because it does have good bones.
@Twisted Coaster Fan me too when it was in Gurnee
American eagle is an icon at six flags great America. It would be tough seeing that coaster gone.
“In a can” lol... I of course meant “an icon”.
I agree. I would probably cry, but if they rmc it that would be better.
It looks like a retracking is going on last time is was there
I always found it odd that Morgan came in and made Phantom a top ten coaster then never got called again. I also find it odd that Chance made a terrific airtime machine with the Hyper GTX that was really well received and never got called again (I really think Knott's could use one of these!). Wouldn't it be cool if Chance got called in to convert some of these larger Arrow's into ridiculous airtime machines? Could you imagine Viper as a 186ft tall airtime monster? That would be so cool! It just seems to me something could be done to these aging Arrow's instead of just scrapping them.
7:12 Valleyfair’s my home park and honestly I’ll take anything at this point.
Edit: also, Shakopee is pronounced shah-koh-pee. Emphasis is on the shah
I always butcher the names of towns
@@AirtimeThrills haha I don't blame you. We got some hard ones in the Midwest
Thank you so much. This is also my home park
Valleyfair is so far past the point of needing a new coaster it’s not even funny.
SpotTheSteez i would gladly take even a boomerang at this point
"There is a law preventing RMC from doing their work in canada"
Me: sad canadian noises
Holy crap, with this amount of support we can take this to the parlement!
dish soap Blame Canada
Its cause Canada hates us because they got Green Lantern First Flight
JadenTheRobRenzettiFan NAUTTP Why didn’t Paramount build a South Park at CW? Is it because it’s too mature? Or because Time Warner co-owned Comedy Central at the time?
What is that? The sound of maple syrup getting wasted of the sound of bad poutine??
LoL
3 Options for CW:
1. Remove Wilde Beast and The Bat and Speed City Raceway and add a ground up RMC Hybrid like Zadra.
2. Remove Flight Deck and Time Warp and add a Record breaking wing coaster.
3. A Mack Extreme Spinning Coaster were action theatre is.
Jeremy Coasters all of those sound good to me. CW really needs more good coasters.
I say we need a b&m invert before a Mack
I’ll take an RMC Wilde Beast as long as they make a Fraggle Rock reboot and use it for a Traveling Matt segment.
I also want a spin off of Step by Step and use Twisted Colossus in the opening.
Jeremy Coasters I wouldn’t be surprised to see Time warp and flight deck replaced by an invert
Dosware Pictures Can’t be done without Jerry Nelson.
Goliath from Six Flags New England will probably be transferred to La Ronde as that is where they dump all their failed Magic Mountain coasters.
Dragon mountain (another Arrow looper) at Marine Land in Canada could get the axe... But that could be said for the entire park.
My home park is Six flags Great America and eagle is the by far the most painful coaster at the park( some people may disagree because of demon) but I think some sort of RMC similar to twisted colossus or possibly a raptor I would love to see either though.
0:12. I rode Vortex for the first (and only time) in July.
I rode it 4 times over my last visit. I actually really liked it. It had a minimal line so it was easy to ride.
@@invertedthrills144 I guess that's why it was removed. It wasn't so bad, but I noticed on rcdb that all of Kings Island's looping coasters pulled greater than 3gs. I think they need a "low intensity" "family" inverting looping coaster.
We'll all miss vortex
I like how the time warp and flight deck plot is shaped like a thumbs down
I think canadas wonderland should remove flight deck and time warp and put in a large invert or flyer in that plot of land.
Maybe a Vekoma launched flyer (if they would actually build a coaster in America)
In graphic design, we had this project where we would make a “vision board”, after which, we went around rating other peoples’ vision boards. We had to give one good thing and one bad thing about each one. One of the bad things I wrote were: “You put Viper in your vision board”
Goliath at Six Flags America is never open?
Well, as a former SFGA season passholder, that sentence gives me...Deja Vu.
Hahaha true that
RIP Deja Vu
Really wish they could have maintained American Eagle better. Been there several times now and I don’t know if I ever remembered both sides being open, but it always looks cool when you’re going by on the highway. It needs a retrack bad, I wouldn’t want to see it go.
I always get exited to watch your vids! Keep up the good work!
Always love your original intros, and funny songs/vines/memes you always include!!
Wicked Twister: *Laughs* I’m REALLY in danger! 😅
Wicked Twister is LOOOOOOOONG gone and Face-Off is still going strong at KI!
GCI has their own steel track, I've heard GCI should retrack Wildcat
Lindsay Yale Entertainment Rather have RMC do it though
I think it would be fitting to have their first retrofit (if they're gonna do them) to be their first coaster.
That’s just my opinion. Yeah It looks Cool but do they have the space?
@@SomeRandomAccount5 to retrack Wildcat, no doubt. Depends if it's just a retrack or they want retrofit. Haven't seen them do one. I'm sure they could fit something there. I believe there is space around the ride even.
I can’t wait to come back to this video 5 years from now and see which of these coasters are still standing.
I think you're going to end up having most of these Cedar Fair ones removed for sure. Mostly bad rides, although I still really enjoy Gemini.
I see CP removing the mine ride before Gemini. The longest wait I've ever seen for it is 10 minutes, which was on the literal busiest day they've ever had.
@@TheSonicsean That's because it has a height requirement of 48in. What else has a 48in requirement at CP? Well Gemini, Magnum, Millenium Force, and Blue Streak. Why the hell would anyone that height want to ride the boring mine ride when they can ride any of those? If CP replaced the trains so smaller kids could ride CCMR could be a decent family coaster but instead it's unloved.
Mine ride is great, y'all are just mean
@@danielles3841 it holds tremendous sentimental value for many but takes up prime real estate in the park and is in pretty big danger of getting closed soon.
From what I saw, so far he’s right about wicked twister and wildcat
Valleyfair is my home park, and, I agree, Excalibur is doomed. I’m surprised it wasn’t higher on your list. It’s tucked way back in the back of the park and hardly anyone goes back there anymore. When I first moved to Minnesota in 1990, it was a really big deal, but that was when Valleyfair only had about 3 coasters.
Been binge watching your stuff while multitasking lately. Two thumbs up, best coaster channel i've found.
If Time Warp gets sent to my home park, I’m gonna file a class action lawsuit against Cedar Fair, Zamperla, Paramount, Mutual Film Company, Square Enix, Canada, and Muskegon.
Ok, so you want them to send Flight Deck instead?
Maybe repaint it yellow and red?
TheSonicsean sure. It would flush Twisted Colossus down the toilet.
@@TheSonicsean They have to change the restraints to much less painful one
Square Enix? why that? I understood the other ones but what did se do
@@dangerdoge4113 they’re the current owner of the Tomb Raider series after acquiring Eidos in 2009
I think others on this list should be(wanted to mention 2 good slc’s, Riddles Revenge and Fly-The Great Nor’ Easter
Sea Serpent- Morey’s piers
Skull Mountain- Six Flags Great Adventure
The Wildcat- Lake Compound( don’t know how to spell)
Canobie Corckscrew- Canobie Lake Park
Flying Ace Arial Chase- Carrowinds
Rougorou- Cedar Point(again with the spelling)
Mind Eraser- Elitch Gardens,Darien Lake, Six Flags America
El Condor- Walibi Belgium
Airtime: Have you ever had that coaster that you wanted to ride but it closed down?
Gp: Oh yeah the wooden one!
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Coaster Fusion Already man 😂
Coaster Fusion We are like the same person, comment everywhere, both subbed to smaller coaster channels, Home park is SFOT. Coincidence, I think not...
@@lukestreams5956 Lol
Luke Streams I mean I comment to everything, sub to smaller channels, and live 45 minutes away from SFOT
12:09 I REMEMBER ! Goliath was a huge upgrade to flashback ! I was hoping they got rid of flashback back then to put a launch coaster of some sort. It’s really unfortunate they haven’t been able to fix the problems. Haven’t been to New England in years since moving to California :(
I loved that ride other than Superman !
The dislike is from someone who was on a roller coaster who tried to like the video
I clogged the toilet nah, it’s because of V2.
So far, only Wicked Twister and Goliath are entirely gone. Wildcat was RMC'd and Desperado is being prepared to potentially reopen
RMC American Eagle, Six Flags Great America
American Eagle
to
*MAGNIFICENT EAGLE!!!!!*
I would like New American Eagle. Cause I like it’s name. Just put new in front of it like New Texas Giant.
the joke with us employees is "Ste-gle"
Your an employee right? So I heard Eagle is getting new trains? Is this true......I hope it does as it would be stupid to close the ride just cause the park is to lazy to replace the old trains........I’m really scared about American Eagle....I get its old...but I love it the way it is.....but I do wish the park would race it again as they don’t do it anymore possibly due to stress/ structural issues on the helix, and reports of rowdy guests throwing objects at each other while the trains are racing.
I wish the park would repair and refurbish the coaster to get it racing again.....but I feel the park president Hank Salemi is not gonna do it......As cool of an RMC redo would be.....I’m just worried the coasters layout would be cut in half like with Twisted Cyclone. Plus I really dig the name too. Im dreading the day when it is announced to close..... 😰🥺😥
@@tigerrocks503chase8 I have no idea, I don't work with eagle, but I can *probably* say that that rumor is false, and us employees are told nothing, lol never trust anybody, but from what it seems eagle is going to stay for the time being.
Well that relieves my stress a bit.....but I’m still bothered by the fact that the park needs to fix the issue with it not racing anymore. A talked to a employee one day working at Eagle. Only blue was running and the line was pretty long which is annoying as running the red side would of made the capacity much better, even if they can’t duel it. So after I got off the blue train....I asked one of the employees why it does not duel anymore?
He simply told me that they are not allowed to anymore.....kinda stinks as it kinda defeats the purpose of a racing coaster.
14:20 are you sure this is a picture of viper in california?
SamMaxx [GD] Yeah.
I'll come back to this video 5 years from now and see how many of the 20 (21) coasters have been removed, lol
As of April 2024, over four years later, you guessed three correct - 13. Wicked Twister (closed 2021), 8. Wildcat (closed 2022, RMCed 2023 -- as you guessed), and 5. Goliath/SFNE (closed 2019). Desperado is still SBNO. The video date is 12/3/2019 so there are still eight months to go...
GEMINI TO MICHIGAN"S ADVENTURE
That would be much better than removing it. It holds to much value to me
Sure. Then my mom is gonna call it the Step by Step Coaster.
Maybe
You can't relocate that ride, it is welded together.
GP To Enthusiast skissors work
SO EXCITED FOR THIS VIDEO!!! CANT WAIT TO SEE IT!!! I love this channel, love the intro, great song, one of my favorites
I was just listening to another bites the dust on my way home from school and got deja vu
HOLY JESUS THE MIC QUALITY (damn boi you have really improved since 2019, great job)
Thanks, yeah always keep improving. Gonna do a halfway mark followup on this video soon
oml this was the video the coaster communitty could have used so people would shut up about the final terrible woodies, and viper. epic video
Go ride Excalibur! Omg it’s so fun! It’s my favorite ride at ValleyFair and it’s so sad to think they might take it out…
It's sad that the alleged plans for the spot in the park isn't even gonna be for a new coaster either. There's rumors of it just being a staff parking lot
I got scared when V2 from SFDK was in the thumbnail
Same it's one of my favorites at SFDK
last time I was there I just kept riding it over and over
You were right about wildcat and wicked twister
I saw Gemini in the thumbnail and started saying to myself, “It’s just a video.. It’s just a video...”
Vortex at kings island was absolutely my favorite ride for nostalgia reasons. I will definitely miss it. I got on it for the last time during the last weekend of haunt, and they had put the dates up and took pictures. Very sad
Every Arrow Looper on paper should because they don't last 50 years lol
Hey, Loch Ness Monster is 42 years old and it’s holding up pretty good.
Always coming up with good lists
SHOCK-A-PEEEEE. I love Excalibur. It’s a great coaster, however I’m sad valleyfair never gets anything new and is “second class” cause it my home park. Along with Nickelodeon universe 🙄
I think Superman at Six Flags Magic Mountain days are numbered. Six Flags sent out that survey a while back about some concepts regarding that area. Also Tower of Terror II which is the other coaster like Superman just closed down in November. Plus Six Flags is only running one side of the train. With the money they have pumped into Viper it would not surprise me that Superman goes first and then Viper down the line.
Alan Trotter if only if Six Flags could put in a better Kingda Ka.
I'm one of the few people who really doesn't like Superman Escape From Krypton. I mean, it's not terrible. It's just boring and REALLY LOUD! And with the new homes going up around the park... I think you're onto something.
@@DoswarePictures The one problem with that theory is that Intamin's Xcelerator, the very first version of their Accelerator coasters (these include Kingda Ka, Top Thrill Dragster, etc) exists at a Cedar Fair park about an hour away in Orange County. I'm not sure Six Flags would want to replicate that ride so close to a park that already has such a thing.
Josh Green I see what you mean, although both parks have B&M inverts. While they opened 10 years apart, It’s been a longer period since now and the opening of Xcellerator. And I was thinking of a coaster twice as tall as Xcellerator.
@@DoswarePictures Oh for sure if Six Flags went in that direction it'd be massive in scale. It'd probably be taller than Kingda Ka. Though an accelerator coaster would be wider than the area that Superman currently inhabits. We'll have to see!
Dope channel aways strongly look forward to new videos keep them coming airtime
My all-time favorite arrow coaster is definitely Tennessee Tornado at Dollywood. It's such a good ride with a short wait, beautiful layout built on a mountain, and a beautiful view. I hope it never gets taken down.
The only time ive like american eagle is when they run it backwards. Its kinda rough but if i remember is smoother in reverse.
2:17 Cedar Fair's plan was originally to add a coaster at CW every other year, as seen with Leviathan and Wonder Mountain's Guardian, but Yukon got delayed due to CP needing Valravn. confirmed by both parks.
Stop spouting utter BS..Cedar Fair never had any plan for coasters every other year.
Leviathan in 2012, Wonder Mountain's guardian in 2014, and Yukon was planned for 2016 but was delayed due to CP needing Valravn. looks like every other year to me.
@@lessardo87 2008 Behemoth, 2012 Leviathan, Wonder Mtn is a not really a coaster, 2016 would be again 4 years, they got 2019 Yukon. The plan was every 4 years,...the same as they did with Carowinds. Please stop the nonsense CP "needed" Valravn hence they got it, it was b/c they didn't want to spend more at Wonderland in a short period, CP was a much better ROI. Cedar Point's Revenue & EBIDTA is more than 2x Wonderland. Despite the high attendance Wonderland prices are cheap, hence the finances are not commensurate with attendance. Adjusting for the conversions rate they have cheaper passes than lower end parks like WOF, Dorney, MIA, VF...Wonderland is the Six Flags park of the chain high volume, low prices & 3/4th of the coaster lineup is completely forgettable.
@@grobble8954 I got this info from Amusement Insiders, they did a video on this but Cedar Fair's Business model is changing now.
@@lessardo87 Amusement NonInsiders never knows what he's talking about. I have proven him incorrect so many times he has long stopped responding to save his embarrassment & keep is "fans" from knowing how little he actually knows about Cedar Fair, the industry, finance, business, etc...
I mean, in another universe Desperado was able to survive nuclear fallout so I don't think it's going anywhere.
You forgot about Steel Curtain getting redone and opening as Curtain's Revenge
I have never had any headbanging at all on Viper at SFMM. Granted, I've always sat towards the front, but I find the coaster smooth and I would be sad to see it go.
I would say more likely to take out Tidal wave and use the space that it sits in and where Green Lantern was. They could even keep it a water ride just bigger and updated.
Yes. I never found Viper to be that bad in the way of roughness so I don’t see what the fuss is about with that one. Granted, it’s not the smoothest thing in the world, but it’s not unbearably rough IMO, either.
Last time I visited a few years ago it was so painful I spent the rest of the day nursing a headache.
@@98dizzard I've had much worse experiences with Scream than Viper.
1. Anything with a recent new paint job has plans to be around for awhile. 2. Valley Fair has such few coasters there that it would be hard to justify a removal, especially without a good replacement. 3. California Great America Grizzly had enough recent track work done to ride almost as smooth as a steel coaster. 4. Cedar Fair also looks at the cost per ride of each person, which may or may not say much, because the best rides probably cost the most. 5. In my opinion, I agree with about 95% of all your opinions, across all your videos.
V2??? YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!! 😭😭😭
Another great video! It would of been nice to get a couple predictions for the top coasters to be replaced though. Like what do you wanna see at Magic Mountain or Kings Dominion?! Take care and keep up the fun content!
I thought Goldrusher was less jarring than viper the last time I went to magic mountain
IMO that most jarring coaster experience at SFMM is X2 (outside seats). I enjoyed the inside seats (much more smooth than the outside seats).
I love gold rusher, one of my favorite rides.. I know it’s a kiddie ride but gold rusher and ninja are always on my list if I’m walking by and I see no line.
When are you going to valleyfair this year ?
People who are here after 4 years
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Personally I think Judge Roy Scream at SFOT will get the Axe. It’s an overall rough and boring ride, however, it has some of the prettiest views of any coaster ever. It sits next to a lake and is at a separate area outside of the park. I could see Six Flags adding something really big in the next 10 years there. (Possibly a giga) I also think that Six Flags might buy property where Globe Life Park was.
I like how every time we question if Cedar Point will remove Gemini, it's always something else.
We questioned if Wicked Twister or Gemini would be the spot for the new coaster, Wicked Twister got the axe.
We questioned if Gemini may be removed to make room for a new coaster, Top Thrill Dragster is either being remodeled or removed.
Cedar Fair must be a Gemini fan too cause every time coaster crowds point to Gemini to be removed, they remove something else.
Excalibur would be a great one to remove and replace with something with inversions. Ideally, it would need to be something they can keep higher off of the ground to avoid the flood plane. A raptor seems like it would be a good fit for the park.
As for Excalibur itself, it is rough and jerky. The highlight of the ride for me is during the ejector hill at 11:08 in the front seat. It gives you a great pop of air.
Damn it my noti didn’t work...well I saw your insta and I clicked faster then dragster after that
The Demon is a classic, this was my first ride when it was Marriott Great America and I loved it.
California’s Great America, or Six Flags Great America?
Both parks were originally Marriotts Great America.
I'm out of the loop on the RMC-Canada thing (pun maybe intended?) But whats up with RMC and Canada?
It sounds like Canada has a protectionist law saying that you need to use Canadian companies to do work as long as they're qualified to do so before a foreign company is allowed to come in. RMC uses their own builders
Airtime Thrills Protectionism is a terrible thing in North America and this is one of the downsides. Shame on you, Canada!
@@patrickholland901 United States does a lot more protectionism then Canada.
TIL thanks for the tidbit!
They'd better not touch Gemini! I'd sooner believe they would get rid of Corkscrew or Iron Dragon than even *THINK* about removing the park's only racing coaster!
AGREED! The Corkscrew is a pain! Cedar point is my home park.
The American eagle is my favorite coaster of all time. I would be heartbroken. I pray for the retracking.
Same here. I love it the way it is. Problem is the park is not allowed to race it anymore.
They have attempted multiple retracks on it but it does not help with the ride not racing anymore.
Indeed it was.
@@tigerrocks503chase8 It is not that park is not allowed to race. It is the fact that the ride is old and wear and tear has set in. The ride is rough in spots especially in the helix. It has been known to shake while racing around the helix.
I knew age was a factor to it non racing.
As a local to Carowinds, I have to say that Carolina cyclone and nighthawk are both coasters that I would love to stay as a time capsule of design, but I'd have no problem for them to get axed in favor of something better if there was good reason to remove them. If anything, I'd love to have a new wooden coaster on the plot of land that houses nighthawk. A lot of people are still very sad and very disappointed that Carolina thunder road was removed.
Earlier today on Kentucky kingdom’s Instagram they teased that they were removing T3 and tagged RMC
Hey Airtime Thrills. Fellow Coaster enthusiast and former ride operator (Nickelodeon Universe MN) and im really loving your channel. Just thought Id let you know that the city Vallyfair is located is pronounced "Shaw-co (like co worker)-pee" (Its all good, lots of folks from out of state get it wrong). Also your right about Excalibur, its been on the chopping block even before the expansion. There has been talks of Vallyfair acquiring either a brand new or used B&M Invert. If its a used model, one of the options is said to be one of the former tracks from the Dueling Dragons/Dragons Challenge attraction from Universal Studios.
5:55 I need an RMC at my home park. #RMCHurler
Then you would have no wooden coaster.
They have Woodstock Express, It's also a woodie