With a little over a year until the deadline, let's check on progress again: * Grizzly: well, uh... I guess they aren't in danger of replacing it * Wildcat: has been RMC'd * Top Thrill Dragster: changed it enough to qualify as a new ride? * Alpine Bobsled: gone * Sand Serpent: gone * Tidal Twister: gone * Demon: they got rid of some of the rock work, which is potentially a bad sign Kinda weird that the additional ten already have more successes than the original 20.
Nighthawk is probably gonna stay at Carowinds for at least 5 more years. It just got a new operator panel, repaint, and parts from the trains of firehawk. Hurler is likely to be removed, but the dinosaurs alive plot is where they're probably build rides next, with the rumored Aviation themed area around Afterburn possibly coming next year.
I think your accuracy would have been much higher if Covid didn’t happen. If parks didn’t already invest for the new rides, they probably cancelled potential ones or delayed them until they figured out what was gonna happen.
Having great America as my home park, I think demon is safe… they have given that thing so many face lifts that I don’t see then taking it out… American eagle is a toss up for me… what I think they will be taking out though is buccaneer battle and the go karts and putting in a coaster there instead… or at least something big… buccaneer battle has just been collecting dust for years and this year they drained the pool and blocked off the entrance area… the bell tolls
Yeah, definitely seems that Bucaneer Battle won't be coming back at this point. Not so sure about the go karts as building a ride between the two plots would mean it would have to go through the park's backstage area, but I could see them finding a way to make it work.
I do genually fear for flash vertical velocity’s future. It’s been holding a lot of electricity over its 2 year down period so anything could happen. Hoping that it does open back up soon
I saw somebody on a forum suggest they improve dragster's reliability by replacing the launch with multi-pass LSMs and a switch track / back spike added to allow it to reach the necessary speed... I have to say I'm totally on board with this :)
Thatd cost an astronomical amount. Not only would they need to retrack the entire ride bc they dont even make that track style anymore, it wouldnt fit in the current plot of land.
I SO hope you're wrong about Gemini. That would be devastating, it was my first "grown up" coaster (in 1981!) Granted, it scared me to the point that I never got on it again until 1987.
I’m almost willing to bet RMC hybrid conversions are nearing the end as far as US parks go. Sure, the pandemic has shaken things up so we don’t know entirely how many projects the company has planned, but with the big resurgence of B&M and Intamin in the states, it’s a wonder if they’ll be getting the edge over the competition.
@@jellybeans95 After all the problems Lightning Rod has faced, I don't know if RMC will wanna roll the dice on another ground-up hybrid, even if it's not a launched one.
@@JCBro-yg8vd LRod wasn't a hybrid, at first. Also, half of its issues is the launch. If the IBox conversion is finished, I imagine it'll be its only real issue.
@@JCBro-yg8vd You know Arie Force One and Zadra are the only ground up hybrids, and most of the hybrids don’t have much down time. But I agree with the raptors. Those are for sure gonna sell to all sorts of parks.
We finally made it to Great America last weekend along with Indiana Beach. We got one ride each on American Eagle, it was okay and Demon which you couldn't pay me to ride again. The Big 4 there is about as good as anyone's. We thought Maxx Force is way underrated. You weren't wrong in saying The Lost Coaster Of Superstition Mtn is the strangest coaster you've ridden. We thought so too but totally enjoyed it.
What's the big 4? I've only ever thought of the big 3 being Maxx Force, Goliath, and Raging Bull. If I were to have a big 4 tho it would definitely be the last 3 i mentioned, and Viper.
Great Video as always!! If Hurler got RMC’d that would be on of the best things Cedar Fair can do a good RMC that packs a punch, next to an amazing top tier Giga Fury 325 that would be one of the top 5 1-2 punches at any park for sure.
There have been rumours flying for the better part of 3 years that Kentucky Kingdom would remove T3. Now, there are survey markers all around the coaster's plot of land. I'm surprised you didn't include that one!
I think Canada's wonderland will want to hit 20 coasters before they start removing. Wild Beast and Dragon Fyre are most likely. Flight Deck and Time warp are the least. Wonderland's attendance is skyrocketing. Ride capacity is their highest concern right now. Unless there is a massive mechanical issue, they will prioritize the unpopular rides first. As much as we enthusiasts (rightfully) dunk on Flight Deck and Time Warp, those rides are massively popular with the GP. On a busy long weekend those rides will have hour+ lines while Wild Beast and Dragon Fyre are walk ons.
Excalibur is more than likely not going anywhere (at least for the next 5-10 years), as it just got a new control panel and the park seems to be taking good care of the ride. New control panels are not cheap
Love this ride too! I hope it will stay for a long time. Maybe a paint job though. But I think if they put more rides around the area it’s in more people would go back there. I know it’s in a flood zone but it hasn’t flooded for a while now and if they built up around it some more it might help. I’m just trying to think of ways to preserve this gem.
I would like to see Viper get Morganed (ie Phantom treatment). They wouldn't need to worry about capitol investment because footers and mechanics would be reused (along with a ton of supports besides the lift hill which would be unchanged). Just an airtime filled layout that would work as a popular new ride but it would cost so much less.
@@jdonovan74 Joe Draves most likely. Chance Rides has completely absorbed the remnants of Morgan, and I don't think they'd do another conversion similar to Phantom's Revenge. However, the Chance Hyper GTX model gives an amazing ride and those trains/restraints are rated for inversions and I think they're compatible with the old Arrow track design which would allow retention of the station, lift, and low stress areas like the switch tracks. Definitely seems like a better option than scrapping it entirely unless there's something wrong with the footers.
@@jdonovan74 Morgan is now part of Chance, so Chance. Using the same track they used for Lightning Run (which is identical to the Morgan track on Phantom), which is Arrow compatible.
That would certainly be interesting. When the park opened, Demon was known as Turn of the Century and had two airtime hills where the loops and tunnel currently are. If Chance were to rework the coaster, I could see it getting rethemed back to Turn of the Century and those airtime hills brought back (albeit with the exit to the second hill raised due to the path that runs underneath it).
Six Flags St. Louis is my park and it always seemed like it was the forgotten park to me. Around half of the attractions are from before 2000 and the other half is mostly from before 2010. We've barely had anything "new" and I think what we have are either rethemed older rides or rides relocated. The rides aren't bad but some do seem outdated.
If anyone cares of course….. but as a Buffalo NY native I visited Six Flags Darien Lake (my home park) last weekend and in my opinion Predator is running FANTASTIC! The Titan track HUGELY solved the issues of rough banked turns and back breaking bunny hills I endured on my last visit a couple months ago (before the retract on some sections). It’s nice to have a solid wooden coaster near my home!
I think Tidal Twister at SWSD is done. It would not surprise me that Top Thrill Dragster and Flashback at SFNE are going to be done real soon as well. Dragster will be a huge loss and they really need something huge to replace it. I think you will get a higher percentage on these current 10 than your original 20. I think those 3 are a lay-up.
With my recent visit to discovery kingdom, the flash didn’t even have a train in the station or maintenance area making me more skeptical about its future. The paint job was a little extra hope it would be open to get the credit but nope, I’m now 0 for 2
As a SFDK employee here’s what I know of V2. They are doing a rehaul on it. they are giving it a new train and changing its old launch system. It should open for Fourth of July fest.
Ive been hearing rumors kong at SFDK could be getting the axe since a lot of people complain about the headbanging and roughness but i just give up on that coaster this point they seem to not get rid of it even with how bad it is and yes even i have roden kong its not really that good of a ride would love to see a b&m surf go there since of height restriction
@@Rose34561 I operate Kong and it’s not leaving just yet. We are getting the red train back soon and then the yellow one should go back into maintenance as it is pretty bad but hopefully after it’s overhaul it should be back. Now I can’t say the same for dare as something unfortunate happened to it recently
@@Bogarttherideop oh wow hopefully maintance fixes the headbanging and yes i think cool to see a b&m surf at SFDK because its perfect for height restriction could be animal named ride like 🐬 P.S. Ik it may seem like i was a little harsh on Kong but i do care about SFDK and want to see the rides do well just praying snd hoping the maintance fixes the headbanging thats all i ask for
@@Rose34561 I hope maintenance fixes it too. But I would think a surf coaster would be interesting. If they removed daredevil they could easily fit it in. Well maybe not easy but they could find a way.
Update: Buffalo Bills reopened two days ago and had a full opening ceremony with a mascot, rope cutting and everything. that said, no rides were open “this time” according to the park and apparently it’s just open while they throw a concert. it’s hard to predict what will happen next.
Yeah, I feel Top Thrill is done, especially if the train salvaging Knotts rumors are true. But I don’t think they will announce it till they have Wicked Twister’s replacement up in 2023. They want to soften that blow, but they don’t have a replacement coaster in mind as TTD’s incident was so unexpected. So they will use Wicked Twister’s replacement as a distraction/bandaid for when TTD gets torn down, with no replacement locked in (yet).
@@MustangChick922 A piece broke off and hit a customer in the waiting line next to the ride, and left her with severe brain damage. We don't know how bad, but considering all her statements are from her family, very very bad. The ride was first closed for the investigation over it.
@@Tay_Sports There is rumors TTD trains have been dismantled and sent to Knotts for spare parts for Xcelerator, which currently is down with its own issues. This is on top of CP seemingly removing most of their TTD merch.
Obviously the circumstances surrounding TTD are horribly tragic, and no one wanted TDD to go out this way…but…of all the “crown jewel” rides at cedar point TDD is/was the worst. Between the wait times, short ride duration, and general reliability/downtime I think it’s overdue for a major revamp or replacement. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze for TDD especially when other nearby rides are much better.
I've heard rumblings that Alpine Bobsled is on the chopping block and Six Flags is scrambling to replace it. Supposedly it was jumping the brakes during testing this spring, so SF doesn't want to operate it.
Yes, December 2019 was indeed simpler times! I was still in SoCal with Magic Mountain and Knotts Berry Farm as my home parks. And Gas being $3 as well! Oh how I miss those days!! I think Viper is safe for now at Magic Mountain. I hope La Vibora goes soon. Haha
I don’t think Ninja is in danger, as a person who’s home park is SF St Louis. There is low ridership, but six flags will probably never give us another coaster, so I don’t imagine they would take on out
Excalibur just got a refurbishment this year, I think it has quite a few more years left. They just removed the looping starship which leaves room for a new waterslide complex, and there’s room in the old dinosaurs alive plot for a new ride in the main park. Valleyfair maintenance is good at dealing with old arrows too.
@@trenthenry4986 that’s because it’s from 1980. Every arrow from that time is gonna be rough simply because of the rudimentary track shaping and train design no matter how good your maintenance is.
American eagle will get some type of refurb as village of gurnee said if that’s torn down they can build anything there as it’s too close to expressway so I would think refurbished
If Vortex gets relocated I think they’d throw either Michigan’s Adventure or Valleyfair a bone. But I think demolition is more likely because it’s 30 years old which is old for a relocation
I would be so sad if GA took out the demon! It’s one of my favorites. I was there a couple weeks ago for grad nite, and there was almost no line for it, so my friends and I went 3 times in a row. The theming is so fun, especially with all the lights at night. It was really cool, i’ve never seen there be a smoke machine on inside the mouth of that big face cave in the middle, and when we came around the corner and saw it smoking, we were all so shocked and exited! That coaster holds a special place in my heart as one of the only coasters I would actually get on as a kid and i’d be devastated if they got rid of it
Love the Demon and its theming! I mean, what other ride has a 70s disco song about it playing in the queue? Also, cool to know the smoke effects are being used outside of fright fest this year! I haven't really had the time to go, so I haven't seen any of the changes yet (I was busy when my school had its grad night there).
Demon's plot is actually closer to 1000 feet. The turnaround diving into the rock-face-thing actually gets about to the back of X-Flight's station. I'm not convinced they'd only put a bigger raptor there...
my vacation starts saturday, and my 1st stop is carowinds. well i've heard form coaster force forums that nighthawk is down for maintenance right now so maybe they might fix the roughness ? i know it's a gp magnet, and i have a soft spot for it since it was my 1st flying coaster. Also going to kings dominion, and with the plot of land for anaconda i ask this. which would be a better fit. a B & M wing coaster, or the new B & M surf coaster ? i'd love for the surf coaster model since that'd bring back a stand-up coaster to the park since they took down crotch wave errrrra i mean shock wave.
I wonder how much longer carolina cyclone has as well, I know it just got a while fresh paint job and new trains from kings island vortex but I feel like it's close to being on the way out as well. That being said I think vortex or hurler gets taken out before cyclone is even considered.
Top Thrill Dragster is done at Cedar Point! No way are they gonna reopen it in 2023 after keeping it down for an entire season despite its popularity. Cedar Point has hated Dragster, and the 2021 accident might have just given them an excuse to shut it down. They're just deciding right now what they'll have to get to replace it, because there's gonna be a backlash. It won't be like when Mantis or Mean Streak closed, people will be screaming "Murder!" at CP. Ninja has to be one of those coasters that makes you wonder why it even exists anymore. Even if nothing replaces it, that's an improvement. Invertigo could very well be InvertiGONE, though I think Kings Island first needs to get something good to make up for scraping Vortex since that plot of land is empty.
Since Kings Dominion got an S&S Free Spin, perhaps Kings Island could follow suit. A Free Spin would add some variety to the park despite being a clone.
I would also say Sidewinder, Diamondback's sister coaster, could also be on the chopping block in the next 5 years (from 2022) due to Elitch's impending move or going out of business. Even if Elitch's moves, I can understand that they don't want to reopen it as it had a reptuation of being a rough ride several years ago (especially with all of the extra supports because it is an 'above the path' coaster)
@@AirtimeThrills Pretty much, I have all coasters except for the kiddie coaster and the Half Pipe coaster on a good to high chance of removal. Don't forget, Elitch's has like one of the worst SLCs IIRC
Isn't Sidewinder open just often enough to not get the SBNO tag on RCDB? 😂 I mean seriously, whoever I talk to, when they went to Elitch Gardens, this ride was closed all day.
@Enzo Discovery Congrats! Consider yourself lucky. I did not get this credit and I doubt I will be back to Denver before the park closes. But I can at least brag that I have seen all three remaining Arrow Shuttle Loops, even if I only rode two of them. 😂
@@Colaholiker That doesn't surprise me in all honesty. The last time I was there it was operating, but that was well before mid 2010s. Also, apparently, Twister II has way shorter trains now with 3 'six passenger' cars in a train. Granted, as bad as it sounds, I can see why they've resorted to that to reduce roughness since retracking is out of the question due to the dubious status of Elitch's future
What about Judge Roy Scream at SFOT? It takes up a long narrow space next to the lake. It would be really cool to see a Giga incorporating portions over the lake. Maybe that’s not possible, but man that would be cool!! And yes. La Vibora needs to go!
@@CoasterGaming I would hope not. Titan is the coaster that really made me love coasters, so it has a special place in my heart. However, Titan is one of three Coasters built by Giovanola, which is now out of business. So who knows if it’s sustainable long term. Werner Stengel designed it though!
@@CoasterGaming To be honest I think Titan is safe. It’s only 21 years old and in my experience riding it since it opened it’s been reliable. Currently I heard it’s closed for refurbishment. So I think we go with that and go ride it as soon as it reopens. 👍
Before the pandemic I'd say Viper Magic Mountain was gone but.... post pandemic it has been riding incredibly forceful and good. They might do the most to save it for 5 more years
It’s unlikely any wonderland coasters are on the way out anytime soon. The old dinosaurs alive plot is currently full of markers for tree removal, support placements, etc. the current rumour is a camp snoopy expansion plus a fire chaser express style family coaster which would fill our coaster gap for the next little bit.
I really really want Vortex and Nighthawk to go at Carowinds. Nighthawk has some of the slowest dispatches I've ever seen and Vortex... well it's a rough standup coaster what other reasoning do you have. They could put something really cool in that combined plot, maybe a legit B&M Flyer, a wing, or dive. It's such a perfect spot for a big new coaster. Hurler needs to go too, I rode that once... never again. It was so unbelievably boring and rough.
After reading these comments most likely NIghthawk will not be gone anytime soon as I've heard that they got a new operator panel and a fresh coat of paint. But Vortex could possibly be on the chopping block.
I was at cedar point last week, and the trains for dragster were gone. Everything else was still there. I don’t believe Gemini is going anywhere but maybe cedar creek mine ride might go
I don't think Mine Ride's on the chopping block anytime soon, not when you've got Maverick and Steel Vengeance to give the back of the park so much attention. You need something like Mine Ride to appeal to the GP so they don't stick to the front all day.
@@coaster.caleb. Maybe, but you have to look at what's around it. Gemini has its own midway, albeit one with a dwindling list of attractions. Mine Ride, as mentioned, resides in the same area of the park as two of the big thrill seeker attractions. Iron Dragon sits by itself next to a moat.
lmao that Cheetah Hunt dig got me laughing I feel like since Carowinds is having their 50th next year, they're going to go BIG for a 2023 coaster, and it's either: -One big addition (like a GCI or something B&M) that will eat the crowds OR -Carowinds does a two for one, transition Vortex to floorless and Hurler to RMC in the same year. That last bit seems like a pipe dream really, but they could do both AND throw in an RMC Raptor for less money than it'd cost to buy a B&M lmao
Carowinds needs to take out the Hurler, Nighthawk, Vortex and Cyclone. I rode the Cyclone last week and the ride was absolutely horrific. Nighthawk and Vortex are beside each other and the Hurler and Cyclone are relatively close. Getting rid of those 4 mediocre coasters and replacing them with 2 new modern coasters would make an amazing paring with the much championed Fury 325, and Intimidator.
Agreed! I have sentimental attachment to the hurler and Carolina cyclone since they were my first coasters ever BUT they are intolerable now. I wouldn’t want either of them to be a kids first ride. I’d love to see all four gone but only if they’re replaced quickly thereafter
Viper is still pretty fun and it does hold a place in my heart. Still remember seeing it for the first time coming up I-5 when it was first built and I got chills lol. It still looks pretty menacing up on that hill side. I’d they do replace it I think they will do something huge that will pay homage to this iconic coaster. At least I hope they do 🤞
As someone sitting in the hotel at carowinds as I type this, I wanna say some stuff 1: nighthawk got a repaint and is selling merch like crazy, so I don’t think it’s going anytime soon. 2: I went on hurler in the middle of the afternoon on a summer Saturday. The ride was a walk on. I have a hunch that it doesn’t have the popularity protecting it anymore. I do think a refurbishment would be better than an rmc tho since the layout of the ride is still really fun, it’s just super rough. 3: vortex isn’t a bad ride, you guys just don’t know how to ride stand-up coasters. The same thing applies to the Georgia Scorcher.
I could genuinely see Alphine Bobsled getting the axe first and its spare parts being donated to SFOT for La Vibora. The giant amphitheater at SFOT has been removed from the park map and I've always felt that it could potentially be a prime location for a large coaster.
1. Nighthawk got a repaint and a new control system it's not going anywhere for quite awhile 2. Excalibur also got a new control system this year that means that ride is also not getting removed any time soon 3. Cedar Point sent Wicked Twisters parts to Dorney which means Possessed is good for a bit. I think it's more likely it's sister at Valleyfair goes first 4. Cheetah has been scrapped no RMC treatment (not surprising Herschend hates Wild Adventures)
@@AirtimeThrills I honestly think the plan was scrapped or heavily delayed due to COVID. They wouldn't send Wicked Twisters parts there if they were removing it soon
I've thought for a while that if Carowinds scraps Nighthawk and relocates Vortex (preferably with floorless trains, make it the second best coaster at Michigan's Adventure) that gives them a pretty large plot right in the middle of the park to put a new ride like a tall dive coaster into that lake.
They aren't getting rid of Nighthawk for awhile. It got a repaint and a new control panel. You don't make those investments into a coaster that's going to the scrap yard
I really wanna see viper go. That’s prime real estate especially cause everyone can see it when they come into the park. I’ve been saying a phantoms revenge treatment of Viper is needed and I still think that’s perfect. It would remove and bad ride and add a good one. it would also give magic mountain a good “hyper” with airtime.
For American eagle in great America, I can give in some insite, the main reason why nothing new has been added to that side of he park was because there was a contract between the city and the park itself, the city hates six flags due to how noisy it gets since it’s next to the park, so the city made Great America unable to build anything new on that side of the area, hence why maxx force was shortened. So I don’t think eagle will be taken down since there will be just an empty plot of land if it does get removed
I really love Nighthawk and the location is great for it, I hope they don't get rid of it yet (even though loading and unloading suck and waiting on the break run tilted backwards is terrible.)
I think Gemini will last awhile. Maybe I am biased since I like it, but it gets good lines, and is good for families, but it is a bit dated. Does kind of fit the bill for large wooden coaster even though it is hybrid and doesn't have wooden track.
I really hope Nighthawk stays for a while, as I really enjoy it and think it's underrated and not as rough as people say I would also like to ride Gemini and TTD before they're taken out; I already missed Wicked Twister, but that IS a semi-clone. I just hope I get to ride some Intamin Impulse before they all disappear except for the China one...
I did a lot of work at Conneaut Lake in and around the park. Last year I did a landscape job at a home inside the park behind the Infamous “Blue Streak” imo the roughest most fun ride you’ll ever experience. Growing up i went there for my dads work picnics, I’ve literally rode blue streak hundreds of times 167 that I actually kept track of. It’s sadly missed 😢
Even though Over Texas is my home park and Six Flags doesn’t like adding new coasters there (for now…), I would actually cheer if La Vibora bit the dust. It’s down constantly, its garbage capacity means that it always has a long line, the ride experience is unpleasant, there are plenty of other family coasters in the park,and the park is landlocked. The coaster never really fit at the park to begin with, and tearing it down for something better just makes so much sense.
Late last summer I rode both Wilde Beast and The Great Canadian Mine Buster; both in the front and back and the only ride of those four rides I liked was Wilde Beast in the front. The Great Canadian Spine Buster should be RMCd; it’s big, and at Canada’s biggest park with the most attendance of any Cedar Fair park.
A couple days ago I was at SFGAM. American eagle was running very smooth! They were only running the blue side. I might be wrong but I am pretty sure some parts of american eagle blue side has been retracked. Either way it was a really fun ride.
I grew up going to Carowinds, had a season pass for over a decade and worked there pre-covid. I have to say, based on sheer popularity, both Nighthawk and Hurler make no sense to get rid of. These are both in most people's top five rides in the park. The only reason I can see them eliminating Nighthawk is for the land but they would still have to build over the water, which may discourage it.
Will there be a 2022 NBA Finals park battle , which would be Six Flags New England(Boston) vs. Six Flags Discovery Kingdom/California’s Great America(Golden State)
Ttd I hope they can do something to keep it around because of how iconic it is. Maybe a company like rmc will emerge soon that can convert accelerator coasters into lsm launches.
Just fyi nighthawk at carowinds has been down all season and about to open back up. It’s been closed to repaint and some repairs I believe, so this one might be less likely to be removed since they are spending money on it right now
FWIW, I was chatting with a ride op at SFGAm and he mentioned that Demon just got refurbished trains. That investment suggests to me it’s safe for a while - though I am also desperately hoping the park gets an RMC raptor, too, as it’s my home park!
Parts of Roar got recently replaced. The wood on the turnaround after the first drop was noticeably fresher than the wood on the surrounding parts. I expect it's going to stay around for quite a while longer and SFA just replaces the rough patches over time.
Although I think some of your predictions for older coasters might come true, I’m very sad about them. Parks should really work on updating and maintaining those experiences rather than just throwing them away. It’s always nice to have an older woodie experience or to get on an Arrow. And Dragster will be sad to see gone as a monumental achievement for strata coasters, but it really feels like it may be time for this one.
My ride removal predictions not mentioned in this video: All Ghost Town Village coasters, that park's been SBNO since 2016. Cedar Creek Mine Ride at Cedar Point Trailblazer at Hersheypark Boomerang at Worlds Of Fun (so it can be replaced with a Tumbili clone) Aero 360 at Kennywood (Not a coaster, but now I'm unsure about this ride after that recent incident)
Hurler had some retrack work done last week when i was there. But running far worse than even last year when I road it. Definitely time something gets done
I might be a little biased here since CP is my home park and Gemini was my first big coaster, but I don’t think Gemini is going anywhere. It’s too much of a fan favorite, both for the park’s local clientele and others, to get the axe in the next decade, at least from how I see it going to the park 4-5 times a year. I think after WT’s removal and TTD’s extended closure/possible removal, they’d be looking to add something new especially with the prime real estate by the lake that WT freed up.
I like this concept of having a checkpoint for prediction videos. Hope you do more of these!
With a little over a year until the deadline, let's check on progress again:
* Grizzly: well, uh... I guess they aren't in danger of replacing it
* Wildcat: has been RMC'd
* Top Thrill Dragster: changed it enough to qualify as a new ride?
* Alpine Bobsled: gone
* Sand Serpent: gone
* Tidal Twister: gone
* Demon: they got rid of some of the rock work, which is potentially a bad sign
Kinda weird that the additional ten already have more successes than the original 20.
Yeah I smashed the 2nd round. 1st round not as much
@@AirtimeThrills You got La Vibora right as well now
Nighthawk is probably gonna stay at Carowinds for at least 5 more years. It just got a new operator panel, repaint, and parts from the trains of firehawk. Hurler is likely to be removed, but the dinosaurs alive plot is where they're probably build rides next, with the rumored Aviation themed area around Afterburn possibly coming next year.
An aviation theme would be awesome since NC is home to the Wright brothers first flight
I think your accuracy would have been much higher if Covid didn’t happen. If parks didn’t already invest for the new rides, they probably cancelled potential ones or delayed them until they figured out what was gonna happen.
Agreed that's alot of major work to put into a supposed dying attraction.
@@HollywoodandWine101 thats exactly what i was thinking
Bro where are am i. I work there and have never heard of this haha
5:52 omg airtime thrills got it right
Having great America as my home park, I think demon is safe… they have given that thing so many face lifts that I don’t see then taking it out… American eagle is a toss up for me… what I think they will be taking out though is buccaneer battle and the go karts and putting in a coaster there instead… or at least something big… buccaneer battle has just been collecting dust for years and this year they drained the pool and blocked off the entrance area… the bell tolls
Yeah, definitely seems that Bucaneer Battle won't be coming back at this point. Not so sure about the go karts as building a ride between the two plots would mean it would have to go through the park's backstage area, but I could see them finding a way to make it work.
"Sand Serpent is just there." That's exactly how I felt in 2020 "oh I guess I should do this, it's here after all."
Gemini just had some track repainted and Nighthawk is down until July-ish for upgrades. So I think both of those are safe for a couple years
I do genually fear for flash vertical velocity’s future. It’s been holding a lot of electricity over its 2 year down period so anything could happen. Hoping that it does open back up soon
I’m a Discovery Kingdom Employee and they are giving it a new launch system and trying to reopen it on the fourth
@@cyrus7929 This fourth of July? in 2022? Seriously?!!! I'm super excited!
@@VampireInBlack Yes and I also think they are giving it new trains
I saw somebody on a forum suggest they improve dragster's reliability by replacing the launch with multi-pass LSMs and a switch track / back spike added to allow it to reach the necessary speed... I have to say I'm totally on board with this :)
I like the idea, but they would need to do some major modifications to the ride (like move the station) to make that work.
They would have to lengthen the launch track tho
Thatd cost an astronomical amount. Not only would they need to retrack the entire ride bc they dont even make that track style anymore, it wouldnt fit in the current plot of land.
At that point you're basically rebuilding the whole ride and that doesn't make sense to do.
That seems super unlikely but possible
I SO hope you're wrong about Gemini. That would be devastating, it was my first "grown up" coaster (in 1981!) Granted, it scared me to the point that I never got on it again until 1987.
I’m almost willing to bet RMC hybrid conversions are nearing the end as far as US parks go. Sure, the pandemic has shaken things up so we don’t know entirely how many projects the company has planned, but with the big resurgence of B&M and Intamin in the states, it’s a wonder if they’ll be getting the edge over the competition.
At least RMC has their Single Rail Raptor model that's seeing success with Six Flags, so there's that.
@@JCBro-yg8vd There's also still the option of ground-up RMCs.
@@jellybeans95 After all the problems Lightning Rod has faced, I don't know if RMC will wanna roll the dice on another ground-up hybrid, even if it's not a launched one.
@@JCBro-yg8vd LRod wasn't a hybrid, at first. Also, half of its issues is the launch. If the IBox conversion is finished, I imagine it'll be its only real issue.
@@JCBro-yg8vd You know Arie Force One and Zadra are the only ground up hybrids, and most of the hybrids don’t have much down time.
But I agree with the raptors. Those are for sure gonna sell to all sorts of parks.
We finally made it to Great America last weekend along with Indiana Beach. We got one ride each on American Eagle, it was okay and Demon which you couldn't pay me to ride again. The Big 4 there is about as good as anyone's. We thought Maxx Force is way underrated. You weren't wrong in saying The Lost Coaster Of Superstition Mtn is the strangest coaster you've ridden. We thought so too but totally enjoyed it.
I love Viper and Goliath
@@koalakyle19 Viper was definitely the surprise of the trip. We both agreed it was the next best after the Big 4. And you can't help but love Whizzer.
What were your rankings on the top four?
What's the big 4? I've only ever thought of the big 3 being Maxx Force, Goliath, and Raging Bull. If I were to have a big 4 tho it would definitely be the last 3 i mentioned, and Viper.
@@zachc3282 Maybe he's thinking x-flight.
But I personally can't stand the restraints on that ride
Great Video as always!! If Hurler got RMC’d that would be on of the best things Cedar Fair can do a good RMC that packs a punch, next to an amazing top tier Giga Fury 325 that would be one of the top 5 1-2 punches at any park for sure.
There have been rumours flying for the better part of 3 years that Kentucky Kingdom would remove T3. Now, there are survey markers all around the coaster's plot of land. I'm surprised you didn't include that one!
aged well
I think Canada's wonderland will want to hit 20 coasters before they start removing. Wild Beast and Dragon Fyre are most likely. Flight Deck and Time warp are the least. Wonderland's attendance is skyrocketing. Ride capacity is their highest concern right now. Unless there is a massive mechanical issue, they will prioritize the unpopular rides first.
As much as we enthusiasts (rightfully) dunk on Flight Deck and Time Warp, those rides are massively popular with the GP. On a busy long weekend those rides will have hour+ lines while Wild Beast and Dragon Fyre are walk ons.
Flight deck never gets more than 20-25 minutes, nobody likes it. Wild beast actually gets lines
I'm holding out hope that CP could be considering retrofitting TTD with a more modern LSM system and scrapping the hydraulic launch.
Excalibur is more than likely not going anywhere (at least for the next 5-10 years), as it just got a new control panel and the park seems to be taking good care of the ride. New control panels are not cheap
Came here to say the same. I love my little gem at the back of the park please don't take it from me!
Same with Nighthawk, it got a repaint and a new control panel
Love this ride too! I hope it will stay for a long time. Maybe a paint job though. But I think if they put more rides around the area it’s in more people would go back there. I know it’s in a flood zone but it hasn’t flooded for a while now and if they built up around it some more it might help. I’m just trying to think of ways to preserve this gem.
3 minute gang! But seriously, loving this stuff. Looking forward to pt. 3 of your KI 50th anniversary documentary!
Thanks! I have 2 days to finish that 😬
I would like to see Viper get Morganed (ie Phantom treatment). They wouldn't need to worry about capitol investment because footers and mechanics would be reused (along with a ton of supports besides the lift hill which would be unchanged). Just an airtime filled layout that would work as a popular new ride but it would cost so much less.
Who are you suggesting would get the contract to redesign it?
@@jdonovan74 Joe Draves most likely. Chance Rides has completely absorbed the remnants of Morgan, and I don't think they'd do another conversion similar to Phantom's Revenge. However, the Chance Hyper GTX model gives an amazing ride and those trains/restraints are rated for inversions and I think they're compatible with the old Arrow track design which would allow retention of the station, lift, and low stress areas like the switch tracks.
Definitely seems like a better option than scrapping it entirely unless there's something wrong with the footers.
@@jdonovan74 Morgan is now part of Chance, so Chance. Using the same track they used for Lightning Run (which is identical to the Morgan track on Phantom), which is Arrow compatible.
That would certainly be interesting. When the park opened, Demon was known as Turn of the Century and had two airtime hills where the loops and tunnel currently are.
If Chance were to rework the coaster, I could see it getting rethemed back to Turn of the Century and those airtime hills brought back (albeit with the exit to the second hill raised due to the path that runs underneath it).
Six Flags St. Louis is my park and it always seemed like it was the forgotten park to me. Around half of the attractions are from before 2000 and the other half is mostly from before 2010. We've barely had anything "new" and I think what we have are either rethemed older rides or rides relocated. The rides aren't bad but some do seem outdated.
If anyone cares of course….. but as a Buffalo NY native I visited Six Flags Darien Lake (my home park) last weekend and in my opinion Predator is running FANTASTIC! The Titan track HUGELY solved the issues of rough banked turns and back breaking bunny hills I endured on my last visit a couple months ago (before the retract on some sections). It’s nice to have a solid wooden coaster near my home!
I was praying for an rmc but the titan track worked wonders when i was there, not rough at all
I think Tidal Twister at SWSD is done. It would not surprise me that Top Thrill Dragster and Flashback at SFNE are going to be done real soon as well. Dragster will be a huge loss and they really need something huge to replace it. I think you will get a higher percentage on these current 10 than your original 20. I think those 3 are a lay-up.
With my recent visit to discovery kingdom, the flash didn’t even have a train in the station or maintenance area making me more skeptical about its future. The paint job was a little extra hope it would be open to get the credit but nope, I’m now 0 for 2
As a SFDK employee here’s what I know of V2. They are doing a rehaul on it. they are giving it a new train and changing its old launch system. It should open for Fourth of July fest.
Ive been hearing rumors kong at SFDK could be getting the axe since a lot of people complain about the headbanging and roughness but i just give up on that coaster this point they seem to not get rid of it even with how bad it is and yes even i have roden kong its not really that good of a ride would love to see a b&m surf go there since of height restriction
@@Rose34561 I operate Kong and it’s not leaving just yet. We are getting the red train back soon and then the yellow one should go back into maintenance as it is pretty bad but hopefully after it’s overhaul it should be back. Now I can’t say the same for dare as something unfortunate happened to it recently
@@Bogarttherideop oh wow hopefully maintance fixes the headbanging and yes i think cool to see a b&m surf at SFDK because its perfect for height restriction could be animal named ride like 🐬
P.S. Ik it may seem like i was a little harsh on Kong but i do care about SFDK and want to see the rides do well just praying snd hoping the maintance fixes the headbanging thats all i ask for
@@Rose34561 I hope maintenance fixes it too. But I would think a surf coaster would be interesting. If they removed daredevil they could easily fit it in. Well maybe not easy but they could find a way.
Update: Buffalo Bills reopened two days ago and had a full opening ceremony with a mascot, rope cutting and everything. that said, no rides were open “this time” according to the park and apparently it’s just open while they throw a concert. it’s hard to predict what will happen next.
Well at least reopening the resort is a step in the right direction.
Yeah, I feel Top Thrill is done, especially if the train salvaging Knotts rumors are true.
But I don’t think they will announce it till they have Wicked Twister’s replacement up in 2023.
They want to soften that blow, but they don’t have a replacement coaster in mind as TTD’s incident was so unexpected.
So they will use Wicked Twister’s replacement as a distraction/bandaid for when TTD gets torn down, with no replacement locked in (yet).
What was TTD’s “incident”?
@@MustangChick922
A piece broke off and hit a customer in the waiting line next to the ride, and left her with severe brain damage. We don't know how bad, but considering all her statements are from her family, very very bad.
The ride was first closed for the investigation over it.
@@Tay_Sports
There is rumors TTD trains have been dismantled and sent to Knotts for spare parts for Xcelerator, which currently is down with its own issues.
This is on top of CP seemingly removing most of their TTD merch.
Obviously the circumstances surrounding TTD are horribly tragic, and no one wanted TDD to go out this way…but…of all the “crown jewel” rides at cedar point TDD is/was the worst. Between the wait times, short ride duration, and general reliability/downtime I think it’s overdue for a major revamp or replacement.
The juice isn’t worth the squeeze for TDD especially when other nearby rides are much better.
I've heard rumblings that Alpine Bobsled is on the chopping block and Six Flags is scrambling to replace it. Supposedly it was jumping the brakes during testing this spring, so SF doesn't want to operate it.
I can believe it that thing was rough going into those brakes
Wow you accurately predicted that wildcat is going to be rmc'd Good Job!
Yes, December 2019 was indeed simpler times! I was still in SoCal with Magic Mountain and Knotts Berry Farm as my home parks. And Gas being $3 as well! Oh how I miss those days!!
I think Viper is safe for now at Magic Mountain. I hope La Vibora goes soon. Haha
Kind of hit the nail on the head for Dragster, depending on what a "reimagined ride experience" is
I don’t think Ninja is in danger, as a person who’s home park is SF St Louis. There is low ridership, but six flags will probably never give us another coaster, so I don’t imagine they would take on out
Excalibur just got a refurbishment this year, I think it has quite a few more years left. They just removed the looping starship which leaves room for a new waterslide complex, and there’s room in the old dinosaurs alive plot for a new ride in the main park. Valleyfair maintenance is good at dealing with old arrows too.
Are you sure because Corkscrew is Shit
@@trenthenry4986 that’s because it’s from 1980. Every arrow from that time is gonna be rough simply because of the rudimentary track shaping and train design no matter how good your maintenance is.
American eagle will get some type of refurb as village of gurnee said if that’s torn down they can build anything there as it’s too close to expressway so I would think refurbished
If Vortex gets relocated I think they’d throw either Michigan’s Adventure or Valleyfair a bone. But I think demolition is more likely because it’s 30 years old which is old for a relocation
I would be so sad if GA took out the demon! It’s one of my favorites. I was there a couple weeks ago for grad nite, and there was almost no line for it, so my friends and I went 3 times in a row. The theming is so fun, especially with all the lights at night. It was really cool, i’ve never seen there be a smoke machine on inside the mouth of that big face cave in the middle, and when we came around the corner and saw it smoking, we were all so shocked and exited! That coaster holds a special place in my heart as one of the only coasters I would actually get on as a kid and i’d be devastated if they got rid of it
They just repainted the entire station. That was the reason for the downtime last season. I don't see them removing it anytime soon.
Love the Demon and its theming! I mean, what other ride has a 70s disco song about it playing in the queue?
Also, cool to know the smoke effects are being used outside of fright fest this year! I haven't really had the time to go, so I haven't seen any of the changes yet (I was busy when my school had its grad night there).
Demon's plot is actually closer to 1000 feet. The turnaround diving into the rock-face-thing actually gets about to the back of X-Flight's station. I'm not convinced they'd only put a bigger raptor there...
my vacation starts saturday, and my 1st stop is carowinds. well i've heard form coaster force forums that nighthawk is down for maintenance right now so maybe they might fix the roughness ? i know it's a gp magnet, and i have a soft spot for it since it was my 1st flying coaster. Also going to kings dominion, and with the plot of land for anaconda i ask this. which would be a better fit. a B & M wing coaster, or the new B & M surf coaster ? i'd love for the surf coaster model since that'd bring back a stand-up coaster to the park since they took down crotch wave errrrra i mean shock wave.
I'd be devastated if they closed gemini. Easily the most underacted ride at Cedar Point.
Ride Time Warp at Canada’s wonderland while you can. It is a distinctive roller coaster that is hard to describe. But, It is time for it to go.
I wonder how much longer carolina cyclone has as well, I know it just got a while fresh paint job and new trains from kings island vortex but I feel like it's close to being on the way out as well. That being said I think vortex or hurler gets taken out before cyclone is even considered.
Love the idea of checking up on your predictions!
Do you think Judge Roy Scream at SFOT is safe? Seems like it’s rarely open when I go, plus it’s old.
Man this video makes me feel old. 18th birthday was 2 days ago. You were the channel that made me an enthusiast!!! Thank you always!
Top Thrill Dragster is done at Cedar Point! No way are they gonna reopen it in 2023 after keeping it down for an entire season despite its popularity. Cedar Point has hated Dragster, and the 2021 accident might have just given them an excuse to shut it down. They're just deciding right now what they'll have to get to replace it, because there's gonna be a backlash. It won't be like when Mantis or Mean Streak closed, people will be screaming "Murder!" at CP.
Ninja has to be one of those coasters that makes you wonder why it even exists anymore. Even if nothing replaces it, that's an improvement.
Invertigo could very well be InvertiGONE, though I think Kings Island first needs to get something good to make up for scraping Vortex since that plot of land is empty.
Since Kings Dominion got an S&S Free Spin, perhaps Kings Island could follow suit. A Free Spin would add some variety to the park despite being a clone.
I would also say Sidewinder, Diamondback's sister coaster, could also be on the chopping block in the next 5 years (from 2022) due to Elitch's impending move or going out of business. Even if Elitch's moves, I can understand that they don't want to reopen it as it had a reptuation of being a rough ride several years ago (especially with all of the extra supports because it is an 'above the path' coaster)
Thats a really good point. Same idea goes for twister 2 also
@@AirtimeThrills Pretty much, I have all coasters except for the kiddie coaster and the Half Pipe coaster on a good to high chance of removal. Don't forget, Elitch's has like one of the worst SLCs IIRC
Isn't Sidewinder open just often enough to not get the SBNO tag on RCDB? 😂 I mean seriously, whoever I talk to, when they went to Elitch Gardens, this ride was closed all day.
@Enzo Discovery Congrats! Consider yourself lucky. I did not get this credit and I doubt I will be back to Denver before the park closes.
But I can at least brag that I have seen all three remaining Arrow Shuttle Loops, even if I only rode two of them. 😂
@@Colaholiker That doesn't surprise me in all honesty. The last time I was there it was operating, but that was well before mid 2010s.
Also, apparently, Twister II has way shorter trains now with 3 'six passenger' cars in a train. Granted, as bad as it sounds, I can see why they've resorted to that to reduce roughness since retracking is out of the question due to the dubious status of Elitch's future
What about Judge Roy Scream at SFOT? It takes up a long narrow space next to the lake. It would be really cool to see a Giga incorporating portions over the lake. Maybe that’s not possible, but man that would be cool!! And yes. La Vibora needs to go!
Titan has been down for like 8 or 9 months at this point, wonder if that will go
@@CoasterGaming I would hope not. Titan is the coaster that really made me love coasters, so it has a special place in my heart. However, Titan is one of three Coasters built by Giovanola, which is now out of business. So who knows if it’s sustainable long term. Werner Stengel designed it though!
@@jbirdaspec I would really want them to keep it open as well, one of my first coasters I rode in 2011 that was over 200ft
@@CoasterGaming To be honest I think Titan is safe. It’s only 21 years old and in my experience riding it since it opened it’s been reliable. Currently I heard it’s closed for refurbishment. So I think we go with that and go ride it as soon as it reopens. 👍
Loved that ride. Walked on 10 times in a row, no line, front and back seats open!
Before the pandemic I'd say Viper Magic Mountain was gone but.... post pandemic it has been riding incredibly forceful and good. They might do the most to save it for 5 more years
They refurbed it during COVID
Your intro never gets old. You can't go wrong with black vulture!
It’s unlikely any wonderland coasters are on the way out anytime soon. The old dinosaurs alive plot is currently full of markers for tree removal, support placements, etc. the current rumour is a camp snoopy expansion plus a fire chaser express style family coaster which would fill our coaster gap for the next little bit.
Looks like you were correct!
@@zachcoastercrazy4032 Really What's Happening
Every day we're wrong about Viper getting the axe is a good day
I’ve never seen anyone check in halfway, and its a really good idea. I guess I only have to wait another 2.5 years to see the results!
I really really want Vortex and Nighthawk to go at Carowinds. Nighthawk has some of the slowest dispatches I've ever seen and Vortex... well it's a rough standup coaster what other reasoning do you have. They could put something really cool in that combined plot, maybe a legit B&M Flyer, a wing, or dive. It's such a perfect spot for a big new coaster. Hurler needs to go too, I rode that once... never again. It was so unbelievably boring and rough.
After reading these comments most likely NIghthawk will not be gone anytime soon as I've heard that they got a new operator panel and a fresh coat of paint. But Vortex could possibly be on the chopping block.
Do you think any parks with Boomerangs will be inspired to revamp theirs after seeing what Hersheypark did with Jolly Rancher Remix?
You and Taylor at Coaster Studios have the best coaster content
I was at cedar point last week, and the trains for dragster were gone. Everything else was still there. I don’t believe Gemini is going anywhere but maybe cedar creek mine ride might go
I don't think Mine Ride's on the chopping block anytime soon, not when you've got Maverick and Steel Vengeance to give the back of the park so much attention. You need something like Mine Ride to appeal to the GP so they don't stick to the front all day.
@@JCBro-yg8vd that could be said about most of the supporting lineup at cp
@@coaster.caleb. Maybe, but you have to look at what's around it. Gemini has its own midway, albeit one with a dwindling list of attractions. Mine Ride, as mentioned, resides in the same area of the park as two of the big thrill seeker attractions. Iron Dragon sits by itself next to a moat.
I actually like time warp at Canada's Wonderland, it's not as bad as I thought but it actually enjoying for me
lmao that Cheetah Hunt dig got me laughing
I feel like since Carowinds is having their 50th next year, they're going to go BIG for a 2023 coaster, and it's either:
-One big addition (like a GCI or something B&M) that will eat the crowds
OR
-Carowinds does a two for one, transition Vortex to floorless and Hurler to RMC in the same year.
That last bit seems like a pipe dream really, but they could do both AND throw in an RMC Raptor for less money than it'd cost to buy a B&M lmao
Im at cedar point, What do you think i should ride after the storm?
Maverick!
Gatekeeper!
Carowinds needs to take out the Hurler, Nighthawk, Vortex and Cyclone. I rode the Cyclone last week and the ride was absolutely horrific.
Nighthawk and Vortex are beside each other and the Hurler and Cyclone are relatively close. Getting rid of those 4 mediocre coasters and replacing them with 2 new modern coasters would make an amazing paring with the much championed Fury 325, and Intimidator.
Agreed! I have sentimental attachment to the hurler and Carolina cyclone since they were my first coasters ever BUT they are intolerable now. I wouldn’t want either of them to be a kids first ride. I’d love to see all four gone but only if they’re replaced quickly thereafter
Viper is still pretty fun and it does hold a place in my heart. Still remember seeing it for the first time coming up I-5 when it was first built and I got chills lol. It still looks pretty menacing up on that hill side. I’d they do replace it I think they will do something huge that will pay homage to this iconic coaster. At least I hope they do 🤞
I started working at dorney park this year and possessed has been closed since the park opened I'm not sure if it they will fix it up or not
As someone sitting in the hotel at carowinds as I type this, I wanna say some stuff
1: nighthawk got a repaint and is selling merch like crazy, so I don’t think it’s going anytime soon.
2: I went on hurler in the middle of the afternoon on a summer Saturday. The ride was a walk on. I have a hunch that it doesn’t have the popularity protecting it anymore. I do think a refurbishment would be better than an rmc tho since the layout of the ride is still really fun, it’s just super rough.
3: vortex isn’t a bad ride, you guys just don’t know how to ride stand-up coasters. The same thing applies to the Georgia Scorcher.
I could genuinely see Alphine Bobsled getting the axe first and its spare parts being donated to SFOT for La Vibora. The giant amphitheater at SFOT has been removed from the park map and I've always felt that it could potentially be a prime location for a large coaster.
This here is fine wine
1. Nighthawk got a repaint and a new control system it's not going anywhere for quite awhile
2. Excalibur also got a new control system this year that means that ride is also not getting removed any time soon
3. Cedar Point sent Wicked Twisters parts to Dorney which means Possessed is good for a bit. I think it's more likely it's sister at Valleyfair goes first
4. Cheetah has been scrapped no RMC treatment (not surprising Herschend hates Wild Adventures)
I wonder if the new wooden coaster at Dorney would remove possessed or if it would go around it
@@AirtimeThrills I honestly think the plan was scrapped or heavily delayed due to COVID. They wouldn't send Wicked Twisters parts there if they were removing it soon
@@AirtimeThrills No they literally just said that Wicked Twisters parts are being used for Possessed.
Great video!
Airtime thrills do you think sea world San Diego is worth visiting during a Southern California trip
He NAILED Wildcat.
I've thought for a while that if Carowinds scraps Nighthawk and relocates Vortex (preferably with floorless trains, make it the second best coaster at Michigan's Adventure) that gives them a pretty large plot right in the middle of the park to put a new ride like a tall dive coaster into that lake.
They aren't getting rid of Nighthawk for awhile. It got a repaint and a new control panel. You don't make those investments into a coaster that's going to the scrap yard
I mean if they're not gonna send Wicked Twister to Michigan's Adventure than They're not gonna send Vortex to it either.
I really wanna see viper go. That’s prime real estate especially cause everyone can see it when they come into the park. I’ve been saying a phantoms revenge treatment of Viper is needed and I still think that’s perfect. It would remove and bad ride and add a good one. it would also give magic mountain a good “hyper” with airtime.
I personally think SFMM will relocate Scream before they get rid of Viper. That might be the replacement for Ninja at Six Flags St. Louis
For American eagle in great America, I can give in some insite, the main reason why nothing new has been added to that side of he park was because there was a contract between the city and the park itself, the city hates six flags due to how noisy it gets since it’s next to the park, so the city made Great America unable to build anything new on that side of the area, hence why maxx force was shortened.
So I don’t think eagle will be taken down since there will be just an empty plot of land if it does get removed
Ive heard so many stories about the park vs the city especially around that plot
I think that Excalibur is safe for now, considering they got a new panel (I think) recently
They also have a 2nd train now too but they still only run one train ops.
2 years later Demon is 100% safe for at least 10 years
I really love Nighthawk and the location is great for it, I hope they don't get rid of it yet (even though loading and unloading suck and waiting on the break run tilted backwards is terrible.)
They aren't for a bit. It got a new control panel and a repaint which means it's safe for at least 5 or 10 years
I think Gemini will last awhile. Maybe I am biased since I like it, but it gets good lines, and is good for families, but it is a bit dated. Does kind of fit the bill for large wooden coaster even though it is hybrid and doesn't have wooden track.
I really hope Nighthawk stays for a while, as I really enjoy it and think it's underrated and not as rough as people say
I would also like to ride Gemini and TTD before they're taken out; I already missed Wicked Twister, but that IS a semi-clone. I just hope I get to ride some Intamin Impulse before they all disappear except for the China one...
Well, Grizzly’s odds just went up....waaay up.
RIP CGA :,(
I did a lot of work at Conneaut Lake in and around the park. Last year I did a landscape job at a home inside the park behind the Infamous “Blue Streak” imo the roughest most fun ride you’ll ever experience. Growing up i went there for my dads work picnics, I’ve literally rode blue streak hundreds of times 167 that I actually kept track of. It’s sadly missed 😢
Even though Over Texas is my home park and Six Flags doesn’t like adding new coasters there (for now…), I would actually cheer if La Vibora bit the dust. It’s down constantly, its garbage capacity means that it always has a long line, the ride experience is unpleasant, there are plenty of other family coasters in the park,and the park is landlocked. The coaster never really fit at the park to begin with, and tearing it down for something better just makes so much sense.
Late last summer I rode both Wilde Beast and The Great Canadian Mine Buster; both in the front and back and the only ride of those four rides I liked was Wilde Beast in the front. The Great Canadian Spine Buster should be RMCd; it’s big, and at Canada’s biggest park with the most attendance of any Cedar Fair park.
A couple days ago I was at SFGAM. American eagle was running very smooth! They were only running the blue side. I might be wrong but I am pretty sure some parts of american eagle blue side has been retracked. Either way it was a really fun ride.
Crazy out there prediction. Run away mine train, great adventure for a new family coaster
I grew up going to Carowinds, had a season pass for over a decade and worked there pre-covid. I have to say, based on sheer popularity, both Nighthawk and Hurler make no sense to get rid of. These are both in most people's top five rides in the park. The only reason I can see them eliminating Nighthawk is for the land but they would still have to build over the water, which may discourage it.
I can't wait for the update video this year!
How do you use the Pythagorean therom to calculate coaster stats on your prime ride time videos.
Will there be a 2022 NBA Finals park battle , which would be Six Flags New England(Boston) vs. Six Flags Discovery Kingdom/California’s Great America(Golden State)
Ttd I hope they can do something to keep it around because of how iconic it is. Maybe a company like rmc will emerge soon that can convert accelerator coasters into lsm launches.
Or reduce the height and see how the lsms handle that?
Cheetah at Wild Adventures has been torn down, No RMC unfortunately….
Herschend hates that park
@@AdamSmith-gs2dv nah they don’t hate it, they do take good care of it. But yeah my home park sucks…
Just fyi nighthawk at carowinds has been down all season and about to open back up. It’s been closed to repaint and some repairs I believe, so this one might be less likely to be removed since they are spending money on it right now
You were right about wildcat at Hersheypark. It's closing 7/31 and getting rmc'd.
FWIW, I was chatting with a ride op at SFGAm and he mentioned that Demon just got refurbished trains. That investment suggests to me it’s safe for a while - though I am also desperately hoping the park gets an RMC raptor, too, as it’s my home park!
Parts of Roar got recently replaced. The wood on the turnaround after the first drop was noticeably fresher than the wood on the surrounding parts. I expect it's going to stay around for quite a while longer and SFA just replaces the rough patches over time.
Although I think some of your predictions for older coasters might come true, I’m very sad about them. Parks should really work on updating and maintaining those experiences rather than just throwing them away. It’s always nice to have an older woodie experience or to get on an Arrow.
And Dragster will be sad to see gone as a monumental achievement for strata coasters, but it really feels like it may be time for this one.
My ride removal predictions not mentioned in this video:
All Ghost Town Village coasters, that park's been SBNO since 2016.
Cedar Creek Mine Ride at Cedar Point
Trailblazer at Hersheypark
Boomerang at Worlds Of Fun (so it can be replaced with a Tumbili clone)
Aero 360 at Kennywood (Not a coaster, but now I'm unsure about this ride after that recent incident)
El Toro was involved in a recent major accident. It could either be heavily reworked with GCI's titan track or be demolished.
Hurler had some retrack work done last week when i was there. But running far worse than even last year when I road it. Definitely time something gets done
Rip to Wildcat. It closed yesterday.
I might be a little biased here since CP is my home park and Gemini was my first big coaster, but I don’t think Gemini is going anywhere. It’s too much of a fan favorite, both for the park’s local clientele and others, to get the axe in the next decade, at least from how I see it going to the park 4-5 times a year. I think after WT’s removal and TTD’s extended closure/possible removal, they’d be looking to add something new especially with the prime real estate by the lake that WT freed up.
I think that rmc is what’s hurler is gonna be. They could still maybe fit a gci or a cci like underneath intimidators chainlift
The fact that you call Cheetah Hunt a family coaster is a mad man move in front of European viewers.
You was right about TTD its being retired but i could see Corkscrew at Cedar Point getting removed at end of next year for new coaster