Most Common Mod 2 Mistakes [7. Making Progress]
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- Episode 7 in this series highlighting the most common DAS motorcycle mod 2 mistakes. This episode features making progress, and getting up to speed limits for the DVSA module 2 test.
Passing your DAS DVSA motorcycle module 1 test & module 2 test can be a challenge, as there's so many road safety and machine control procedures to remember when learning to ride a motorbike. Take your time to practise the new skills you learn whilst on your motorcycle lessons.
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See you soon,
Leanna
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Passed my mod 2 today, thank you for these videos! :)
Well done 👍👍
Well done 😊 and you're very welcome 😁
I came here to say that, thanks to your videos, I passed my Mod 2 today. (South Yorkshire).
I found your videos to be informative, focused, well put together and a pleasure to listen to.
Throughout my Mod1 & Mod2, I've been repeatedly re-watching your videos and today, while on test, I have a little voice in my head replaying what you've been saying.
Thank you so much.😍
Excellent news, and well done. I'm glad you found the videos helpful 😁 Stay safe and enjoy your bike 😊
Nice got both my mods Thursday, currently training since Monday so one more to go then test day 😬
@@matthewjeanes4979 best of luck 😊
Just passed both mods and with no minors on either!! Thank you so much for your videos, they’ve been a godsend, you’re a real asset to humanity, your content is helping people so I doff my imaginary hat to you
Well done 😊 Great news. Ah thank you, I appreciate the kind words ☺️
I’m not just saying it, your content has been of huge help
Real asset to humanity 😂
A definite yes from me as well, thanks, leanna.
Awesome lesson 🔥 keep em commin and keep rockin leanna👍👍✌️
Thank you as always 😁
Yet another fantastic video Leanna. Every time I watch one of your uploads I sit here shaking my head and wondering why my own instructor, in 10 hours of tuition, taught me none of this. Your channel is fantastic. You can see the value just from the number of people who comment that they "passed their mod 2 today" having used your videos - instead of claiming the credit themselves, their first thought is to credit you - there's a reason for that!
Haha thanks, I'm glad you think so. If everyone who said it shared my videos I'd have more subscribers and views by now though 😉🤣. Some instructors perhaps just take it easy, rather than pushing to get the best out of their students. It's the same in any profession really isn't it? There's those who strive to be the best they can, and those who are happy to sit back and just enjoy the ride... I know which I find more rewarding 😊
These videos are brilliant and really are helping with my riding, this video is something I do struggle with is getting up to speed. Especially on dual carriageways on my 125, I seem to lose confidence and my speed drops down
This will be easier on a bigger bike 😊 Thanks for your comments.
Thank you for doing this (all of them). It is more than passing Mod 2, it is about becoming/being a safer raider for your whole riding journey. Learning, always looking to improve and applying the knowledge won't stop with the licence, thanks again! ❤
You're welcome 😊
I don't take out learners, only post-test riders (IAM) but despite the stereotype of motorcyclists you'll be surprised how many times I have to say "Don't dawdle!". Also the words "where it is safe to do so" seem to be inaudible to many people when discussing them getting up to the post limit (for their safety and mine!) 😉
Hi Mike, yes it's odd isn't it. Pupils often ask why we should be doing the speed limit when it is safe to do so. It makes me wonder if they simply never get tailgated in their cars or if it is so commonplace they just accept it and don't even notice it anymore 🤔🤣 We have to explain the increased risk of riding a bike and being tailgated compared to driving a car etc etc.
Great advice Leanna., cert clearly explained.
Funny story, we have a 70mph dual carriageway, which is often on test. it's i popular route to Teesport, so lots of trucks.
Explained to pupil, if they drop below 60,(probably 55 true) the lorries will overtake, causing backlog in outside lane. This could be marked as a serious on test under progress.
Next thing, the parent is texting me , totally random asking, "whats all this about if a lorry overtakes you on test it's an instant fail"... 🙄🙄🙄
Thanks Graham. Haha great story, it's funny how things come back to haunt us... So many people simply don't understand the concept of making progress and holding back the traffic. I've had a student say to me "it's your problem not mine it you're getting tailgated whilst training me" 🤔🤣
@@motorcyclelessonsuk oh dear! 😕
On the subject of speedo error, my experience with cars, buses and my motorbike has taught me that consumer grade vehicles (think cars, vans, motorbikes) are deliberately set to read slightly higher than the actual speed, this is allowed in law (under reading is not). Professional grade vehicles like buses and lorries for example, tend to be spot on accurate. This could be for a couple of reasons. Firstly, buses and lorries are slow, so need the extra accuracy to help the driver make progress. Secondly, the license requirements are higher than cat A or B licenses (medicals, higher theory test pass thresholds, ongoing CPC training, etc) so perhaps there is an expectation that professional drivers shouldn't need as much (or indeed any) margin for error that consumer vehicles tend to have.
The police often get their vehicles correctly calibrated, since at the end of the day their vehicles are just modified consumer vehicles. They need accurate calibration to check on speeding motorists while they themselves are on the move.
For my car and motorcycle driving tests, I was taught simply not to speed and should aim for the limit exactly when safe to do so. Always cruising just below the speed limit would be marked as a fault. However, when I did my cat D, I was told cruising anywhere between 28-30mph in a 30mph zone would be considered making good progress.
I always avoid the middle part of my lane in the wet and ride either little left or right to avoid oil patches from cars
Hi Leanna. 🤭just finished watching that one, 😇 and i watched the rain one just because its fun🤣🤣🤣
Hope you are keeping well?
safe ride and stay healthy
Kev
Hello, glad to hear you're keeping up with the uploads 😊 I'm well thanks Kev, hope you are too. Always good to keep the skills for riding in the wet up to date, especially with this not so beautiful British summer we are having 🤣 Thanks 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk Yes i am Keeping well thank you,
glad you are too.😁
yes its all about practice practice 🤭
ops i didn't realise summer had started🤣
@@kgba17580 🤣 me either 🤣 Glad to hear you're ok 😊 Happy practising 👏
thank you Leanna
I keep practicing my stopping with rear brake only but i am so bad at it.
i thought id got to grips with it but my right hand just wants to squeeze that front brake because at the last moment i feel i am going to lose balance at the last moment
I keep watching your videos but i am still struggling 🙃
in the car park i practice just using rear brake only but to be honest i stink at it ☺
i cant work it out as to the difference between stopping with front brake ok and yet cant with rear only.
not sure if you have any ideas about this situation 🤭to me this should be basic stuff to learn but the only thing i can think of is. when i use front brake i can feel the bike stopping but the rear i don't feel this. other than that. 🙄
I thought you might be bored on a Sunday night and need something to do 🤣
Your stalker Kev
@@kgba17580 let me give it some thought. It is unusual not to be able to master this. How many miles has your bike done?
Practise on a car park keeping your right hand around the throttle and just do in starts and stops just on the rear brake. Dangle your left leg for a good 2-3metres on the approach to the stop as this helps with balance. Essentially what we are aiming for is making sure the last 10 metres of your stop is slow (less than 10mph as you come into the beginning of the 10m stretch and so you have almost stopped before you stop by the last 2 metres. So practise just the slow speed, slow stop. Then add in some higher speed approaches in second gear using both brakes then dropping down to the rear for the last 10m super slow as you come into the 10m zone. Put some cones out if if helps.
Usually the panic stations happen because you are not slowing down enough on the approach during the "both brakes" (mostly front) phase. If you can take most of your speed off, leaving 10m of slow riding at the end of the stop, almost stopping before you actually stop, with an early leg dangle whi h helps the bike to lean to the left, the stop can't be anything but smooth and controlled, thereby removing the need or tendency to go for the front.
Go back to watching my upload on controlled braking. Perhaps I'll film another one too at some point 😬🤣
Really helpful videos, thank you. Any advice on filtering? I am doing my mod 2 next week, and don’t intend to do any filtering, but want to know what I could do if I’ve been sat waiting for too long. Thanks.
There will be a "Filtering" upload coming along, I just need to get out and do some more. I have some footage but not quite enough yet. You are unlikely to be sat waiting too long on your Mod 2 test, examiners are good at planning routes. If you get stuck in traffic, sit there and be happy the clock is ticking away 😉🤣.
Awesome advice, thank you!
I passed! Then, on my ‘victory ride’ back to the training pad we were caught up in a huge tailback of traffic behind an accident on the A40, so I got to ride 10 mins of intense filtering past loads of cars and lorries with my instructor. Which was helpful!
@@sarajones7507 Excellent news, and some good experience too on the way back! Well done 👍😎
Hi have a question for you on the CBT do you have to be able to put the bike on the centre stand or can you just put it on the side stand when you do your CBT love your channel as usual and you always thank you kk xx
On the CBT course you will be shown how to do this and then have an opportunity to practise it. With the correct technique it is not as hard as many think. Thanks 😊
Something that does hinder my progress is the wind. Especially a cross wind. Difficulty is it may cause a build up of annoyed car drivers who aren't experiencing the world the same way!
Hi, the more you ride in windy conditions the easier it gets. I actually quite like the challenge of wind. Do you ride a big bike or a 125cc?
@@motorcyclelessonsuk Riding a 125cc atm (mod 2 soon) but it is 170kg wet weight so not light. Have a 150 mile ride across mid-wales tomorrow with 40-50 mph gusts predicted.
I'll try to get out on a windy day for an upload 😊 Hope your trip went well 👍
@@motorcyclelessonsuk 260 mile round trip - stormy weather, downed trees, upland moors and passes! Got blown about in my lane by some very large gusts... but I survived. My medium-sized screen makes a huge difference on the Zontes G-1. Also booked my Mod2 test - about time I tore off the L's! (4000 miles covered with them).
@@daddystu7046 excellent. All adds to the experience 😬😂 Good luck with the Mod 2 😊
Hi Leanna, thank you for another excellent video. What’s the best way to contact you?
Hi Chris, thanks, glad you found it helpful. My email address is on the youtube home page for my channel I think (it should be!). Lmmotorcycletraining@gmail.com. Thanks, Leanna
I’ve got a direct access 5 day course booked for September. Want to start look at gear to buy what helmet & gloves would u recommend
Hi, thanks for your question. For me the must haves on a helmet are an internal sun visor and a pinlock. Plus it needs to be very comfortable. It does not need to be expensive. As for gloves I can't really recommend anything specific except to say for summer it helps to have some ventilation, but also to have a pair that are more waterproof (or simply carry a spare pair with you). For summer I wear Oxford Brisbanes which are unisex and are only about £30. Hope that helps 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk amazing thanks for the tips. Have been binge watching your videos to be prepared as much as possible
Question - when it comes to your mod 2 and the examiner uses a car... should i be considerate to make sure hes behind me..or ride my own ride and he has to catch up...would it go against me if i keep leaving him behind ?
Hello, it makes no difference it the examiner follows in a car or on a bike. Always ride as if you are riding alone. The examiner is just your sat nav. If you get split up he will tell you what to do in the pre-ride briefing and again when it happens on the road. Don't worry about it, just focus on your ride 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk thankyou for your advice...its great to see some updated stuff on mod 1 and mod 2 stuff..keep up the great work..and stay safe :)
That's interesting, I was talking to a chap a while ago that failed his HGV for not making adequate progress. I was really surprised when he told me 'they like you to get up to 32 mph'. I passed my car and bike test a long while ago I know, but when did 32, 42, 52 become the norm? I just wonder if 'some', more, ahem...'experienced' examiners, particularly in cars and trucks where they regularly check the speedo, may consider that 'speeding'? (especially if you slip to 33 or 34 occasionally) Who are we to 'judge' how much the speedo is 'out of calibration'? From what I've read, speeding tickets are being issued when the speed limit is exceeded by 1 or 2 mph in some cases with the latest cameras. As as aside, surely with all the latest technology speedos are becoming increasingly accurate, or at least could be.
Agreed. My car speedo is accurate up to triple digits. I'd much rather sit at 28/30 on test than 32 and risk going faster.
@@dreamcrusher112 I was just interested when this became the 'norm'..I passed both my car and bike tests in the '70's so what do I know? One thing I do know though is, if my speedo was indicating over the speed limit my instructor (car) would have pulled me up for certain. (My bike is nearly 40 years old and is only 2-3 mph 'out' at 60mph)
Hi, Speedometer law is covered in the "Construction & Use Regulations", of which, Regulation 3(2) states:
2. For all true speeds up to the design speed of the vehicle, the true speed shall not exceed the indicated speed.
3. For all true speeds of between 25 mph and 70 mph (or the maximum speed if lower), the difference between the indicated speed and the true speed shall not exceed-
V/10 + 6.25 mph
where V = the true speed of the vehicle in mph.
So, the law is that speedometers cannot read below their actual speed. The permitted speedo variance is 10mph +/- up to 6.25mph. In effect your spedo could be reading 55mph, but your actual spewed actually being only 40mph dependent on the extent of the variance of your actual speedo.
An examiner will only give a student faults for speeding if the speed is excessive and prolonged. Our local examiners set their cruise control to plus 10% when following our students. I expect, like instructors, examiners don't enjoy it when students ride at 26mph in a 30 limit, which results in the examiner being tailgated by impatient road users behind, whose speedometers may well be reading 22-25mph.
We would hope that modern speeds might be more accurate but without the information and proof to hand, other than the day to day experience of being tailgated when students don't get up to speed, we have no way of knowing.
For reference: www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/25/schedule/3/made
Thanks for your comments 😊
Be wary of anecdotes.
@@motorcyclelessonsuk Might be worth seeing if you can get all the training bikes properly calibrated? I imagine modern machines it will all be done via the ECU. The police do it so surely anyone else can too.
Leanne or is it Leanna? I have a question regarding doing the national speed limit on a single carriageway way…you advocate keeping your speed up which means doing 60mph if it’s safe to do so but I can’t even do 60 in my car around twisty country roads let alone on my bike. I’d normally do 50 at the most in the car…where does this leave me? Will I fail for dawdling??
Hello 👋, it's Leanna 😊. Speed is always dictated by view and road conditions, so if the road is twisty, you don't have the view (see my upload on limit points), and consider it safer to drive or ride at less than the speed limit, then you will not be penalised for riding at a safe speed. If you are on a long straight road, with a good view, good surface and no other potential hazards, and you ride at significantly below the speed limit, on the test you may start to pick up faults, depending on how long you do it for. If there is traffic behind and you significantly hold them back this could turn a fault into a fail. I hope this helps 😊
Ah, thank you for a very comprehensive answer, it’s really appreciated and very helpful. It makes sense what you’re saying. I stupidly answered my query in my question by saying ‘when it’s safe to do so’…obviously on the straight, traffic permitting then I should stick to the limit but not on a winding road where typically it can be very unsafe to ride too fast for the conditions. I was thinking I’d have to ride like Valentino Rossi to negotiate all the bends at the national speed limit 😂
@@brianhull5125 😂 you could try to ride like Rossi but I suspect thats where most riders come off, so best to assess the hazards and reduce speed accordingly 😂😉. You're welcome 😊
So 32 in a 30 is ok?
👍🏻we allow for speedometer variance. The majority of local authorities & police allow for 10% +2 or 3mph. Thus adding just 2mph is acceptable & helps keep tailgaters away.
Why are you riding with L plates displayed? I’m sure as a fully passed person it is illegal?
Nope. It's perfectly legal. Thanks for your comment 😊
@@motorcyclelessonsuk government says you should not have them on if you’re not a learner
@@stanaitken there is no legislation specifying this, therefore it is not illegal. Thanks. As a qualified motorcycle instructor we know what we can and can't do. 👍🏻
When do you see any other big bike riders with L plates? You don’t unless they are being trained with an instructor? So riding around on your own with L plates is giving false information to the police and dvsa? As a qualified instructor myself even taking bikes for garage services the L plates are covered up
Each to their own 😊