PUMP up the pressure-Artemis PR900/Diana Stormrider
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2021
- #PCP #Journey #part1 #pumping up my PCP. This is the 1st part of my series of videos sharing my journey into PCP's.
For this specific part we will be focusing on how to use your PCP along with a high pressure air pump. We will cover
- Pump maintenance
- Pump Setup
- Pump Use
- Working pressures of PCP's
- PCP safety
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You are definitely PCP hooked. I put a regulator in my Bandit set to ~ 125 BAR. I GET 14 very consistent shots, pump it back up to 190 BAR, (~ 25 - 30 strokes), and start shooting again.
Keep that young one shooting. It will develop a lifetime positive memory.
Cheers,
Bob
@Bob Andrews I am caught hook line and sinker, will keep the young ones shooting for sure, sounds like you are enjoying the bandit too😉
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner Happy Holidays from 44deg F, Madison, Wisconsin, USA
@Bob Andrews happy holidays to you too from a 80deg F at 8pm Ellisras, South Africa
I pump it up your way and never let the pressure go down into the yellow zone.
Great tips.
Then you are in a good space and the pump will serve you just fine
Looks like a beautiful day there. Thanks for the video!
@NC Dirt Works LLC Thanks for the kind comment, glad you enjoyed the video
Thanks! I bought a cheap pump without info and with you video assembly and my first pumping went smoothly!
Glad I could help, I will most probably do a repair and maintenance vid as well some time
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner Maybe I need to exchange the gun. It was very difficult to remove the barrel. When putting it back I found out, that if I wouldn't use the holder, the barrel would go up about 10cm... this is why removing and putting back the barrel is very hard. Sounds like a manufacturing problem?
Ok well I hope they corrected it for you
Very good review, thanks.
Thanks glad you enjoyed it
Thanks buddy, you helped me greatly
You're welcome, Thanks for leaving a comment. Welcome to the channel
Great vid🎯🎯🎯Great groups 👍
@BREAK BARREL🎯🎯 Thanks for your kind comment, glad you enjoyed the video
U safed our lifes man!
Great sounds good, happy shooting
Merry christmas Tyrone! Nice video - you are right, pumping doesn't seem to bad haha. Now I need to use up my co2 supply so I can justify upgrading :)
Curious did you drill out the transfer ports on this rifle?
@Patrick Renschler no this rifle is still standard want to spend some time before I start fiddling. Will probably not look for more power then probably do a bit of trigger work and maybe see what can be done to the bolt action
I,ve bought the same pump 18 month ago and use it on all of my PCP‘s. Some of them working on 230 or even 250 bar and i have no problems filling them. My Kral Puncher Ekinoks has a 480cc bottle and it take some strokes to fill it and i have to let the pump cool down if i want to use it for another gun😉.
Have no 300bar rifle and think it could be hard to pump that high pressure by hand. Great to see that your son also is a sharpshooter 👍😎
@Andreas Budischek that is great so how much extra effort is it to go to 250Bar I know it is probably difficult to quantify it. It definitely gets a little tougher on mine when I get to about 180Bar.
Agreed on the weight method it is just that last portion of the pumping which takes the most effort
thanks
Glad I could help
You need to do pull the pump handle to the very top every time to take in air then hold for a second them fully down and also wait a second for the air to transfer to the gun.
Thanks for the heads-up
Very useful info about the pump, thanks! When testing it, what pressure should be reached - and then presumably use the release valve at the back?
This pump was made for 200bar so I tested it to 200bar
Thanks. Nice one. It all makes sense in this world of bigger is better. Why exhaust yourself pumping up to 250 bar when you do not need to? Have a lovely Xmas to you and your family.
@Alex Bond-Smith glad the video brought some clarity, I guess bigger is better to a point then it becomes unnecessary, kind regards to you and your family
Pumping looks like a workout but not too bad !
I liked the informative part on different guns and pressure,
An avenger would just be harder to pump but I could still pump it by hand?
It is something to take in consideration tho!
Yes, you would definitely need to put in more effort to pump up an avenger and the bigger reservoir would also require more pumps for a fill. The other option for lower pressure is the Kral puncher NP01 and NP05 also runs at 200bar
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner does the QB chief have a bigger reservoir too? Those are really affordable and atleast look like a nice starter pcp!
I did not see much of those KRAL airguns arround here
@Lowkey ENT the qb chief looks like a great option as well. It seems to have a max fill pressure of 2000psi which is less than 150Bar so filling shouldn't be a problem. The tanks is 137cc which probably means your shot count could be a little low, definitely looks like a great entry level PCP. I actually forgot about the qb chief
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner thanks Sir ! Sorry about all of those question but I really dont know much about pressure and stuff 😬 You did a great job making it sound simple!
@Lowkey ENT no need to be sorry, if I can share I will gladly do so. As long as it makes your life easier I am happy
Hi Tyrone, another nice video. I've just buy a new wooden stock for my Artemis CP2, I'm sure you would like it very much. Tell me how can I send you a few pictures?
@Alex Lexon panonia shooter that is awesome my wooden rifle stock for my CP1 also arrived yesterday. Please share some pictures at tyrone8511@gmail.com I will really appreciate it
An enjoyable, and endearing video. But I really wanted to hear the gun! I need a quiet Air rifle
Morning Kyle glad you enjoyed the video. If you are looking for something whisper quiet I don't think the PR900 is the correct air rifle for you. Unless you put an aftermarket silencer on, the PR900 is definitely not the loadest rifle I have shot but also not the quietest, I would say it is probably not backyard friendly except for the sub12 version
First and Merry Christmas!! I need to take the handle off my AV-G9 and oil in there..good info! You've been doing your homework!! It takes me 28 pumps on the bandit with a 50cc tube..once it hits the yellow. Have you done anything to the spring? Looks like you have a good new shooter in the making!!
@G Whitfield nope the spring is standard I, well everything is still standard want to really get to know the rifle before I start fiddling
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner good smart move!. Getting the feel of it and shooting it getting it broke in is the best way to be. You can always do whatever you want to later....that smile tells me all I need to know about how much you like it!!
@G Whitfield I am sure my smile gives me away, I have done a little pigeon hunting these last few days and the extra power is crazy. Busy trying out some dove biltong
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner awesome! I'll have to google it!. I bet its good!..oh wow it's like a jerky!! I'm really interested now!..
Yes, it is similar to jerky, it is a bit of an experiment at the moment we mostly use game or beef to make biltong but the 1st batch came out pretty good so why not try a 2nd
Nice review. Can the airtank stay presurized over time?
Greetings from Norway
@Terje Grov yes the rifle air tank should always have some pressure as this will assist in keeping dirt out. It will not damage any seals or components if the pressure is there. Greetings from South Africa 🇿🇦
What is the FPS on one like that in .177 ?
Just trying to compare it to a CO2 like the Chaser. (I'm around 550fps on the CO2, so unless the PCP gets you up to that 675-700fps, then I think the CO2 is much easier on this old-mans back) 😁
@Plane Fun here is South Africa the PCP will definitely be around the 1000fps range, in the UK due to the sub 12fpe restrictions it will probably run between 750-780fps. I hope that helps, if you just doing closer range target work or pest control say up to 20m I do think the CO2 will work a charm.
I went with the foot pump due to budget and I need more exercise anyway.😎🇺🇸
The hand pump with the PR900 is really not too much effort as long as you top up often enough every 15-20 shots or so
Is it okay to leave your PCP guns with pressure while being stored or should I bleed it out empty?
It is better to leave them with pressure, do not bleed out the air
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner
Got it.
Thanks.
I didn't know you could get a foot pump I need that due to disability👍 what would I search for to find one please?
Hey Tyrone, thanks for posting this.I am definitely going to buy my first PCP rifle soon and the only way I can do this within budget is by initially buying it with a hand pump. I'm commenting a year after you posted so how has this pump held up.? I personally like the brand anyway but keen to know. Haris will be chuffed when I finally place the order I've been saving for. I'm likely to get the PR900S because I will hunt with it. I've got the GR1600W abd Gertrude is taking a beating on the stock.
That is great Mark you will be happy with the PR900 S, they are great rifles. To pump up is really not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. With the small pressure tube on the PR900 pumping is a dream. If you do your pump maintenance, oil, clean and filters it will last really really long
thanks man. My GR does a through and throughh of an egyptian goose at 65 m. That girl of mine thrown our 18grain Velocity Force (Shameless plug, they're awesome)at 48 joules. Beast of a break barrel Gas Ram. I ndo believe that the PR is the right buy for me. Three rifles in that budget, the struggle is real.@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner
PR900 gen2 is great if you're happy with a little less power around(20fpe) with reg set at 115bar or want to mainly do target work. The PR900 gen1(unregulated) which I had can go up to about 30fpe with about 14 pretty consistent shots so probably better for hunting. If de-tuned you will get more shots but less power, and probably a little more accuracy. Hands down, I believe the PCP will easily be more accurate than the artemis Gr1600
Ik this is a stupid question to ask but when i connect the filling port with the adaptor into the rifle. It feels loose and easily removed, do have to put in a certain way to fit it in place?
If the o-rings are missing or damaged it will be a little loose. If all is good it should be tight but not so tight that you can put it in and out by hand. Does it fill when you put pressure or does it leak
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner No but the gauge in the pump doesn't move either
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner I'm a bit new but what a o ring?
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner I literally having trouble to fill in pressure tbh
Hey thanks for this content! This might be a stupid question, but is there a minimum i can fill up the stormrider? Could it be filled up to, say, 70 BAR? The reason i ask is that i need the airgun to be very quiet for indoor usage and im wondering if less pressure = lower velocity = quieter. Any idea? Thanks
Your assumption is 100% correct it will be much quieter. You will need to balance things out though. Smaller transfer port maybe 2.5mm and a lighter hammer spring.
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner oh so you mean it cannot be done with the default setup? I was hoping I could do this out of the box without needing to tinker. Why might those changes be needed?
Is your stormrider regulated or unregulated? If it is regulated you could set the reg pressure down to 70bar and still fill to a higher pressure. Not that your rifle won't work but it is not going to be a smooth shot cycle. You see the pressure in the valve controls how long the valve stays open and to balance that out you use the tension of the hammer spring to control how hard you hit the valve. So if the pressure is low then it is like using an 8lb hammer to knock in small brad tacs. The other way to balance it is to make the transfer port smaller then you allow less air out of the valve this will reduce fps and thereby noise. The easiest solution is to get a bigger silencer
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner thanks for the thorough reply. Mine is unregulated (just stock from the factory). So you're saying that even filling to 70 BAR unregulated will still be loud due to the force of the hammer spring? I was trying to find a regulator online but couldn't find one for sale. Not sure about a transfer port either, some were saying online that it's too risky to try to replace that. Maybe my best option would be a silencer from TKO?
Yes, the silencer is definitely the easiest option. The factory silencer is actually the same as what is used on the chaser so is probably a little under designed for the stormrider. You will need a silencer which has more volume. To work on the rifle is not very complicated I have videos showing all the ins and outs of the rifle. Unregulated only running at 70bar you can try it but you will hear your rifle will sound as if it is choking, it won't be a nice crisp shot cycle. Let me know how it works out for you
Hi Tyrone
Whom did you order your rifle from? I'm always careful when ordering from the internet.
Thanx
Pierre
Hi Pierre, I got mine from Rashaad at Outdoor Pitshop, he is a good guy. There is however a few people(shops) in RSA which are very reputable. Drop me an email, if you want to hear of some good shops. tyrone8511@gmail.com
About the hand pump, how realistic would it be to take it in a backpack on a several hour hike?
Well I definitely think it is light enough, the bottom legs also fold/flip up. It would definitely be a lot easier to carry around than say an air cylinder or compressor
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner Hey thanks, I'm on the fence about getting my first pcp so that helps.
Look PCP's are great and definitely the future of airguns. I am sure you won't be disappointed when you do get a PCP
You have now got me browsing the web like crazy! What is the make/model of your pump? Thanks.
@Alex Bond-Smith mine is a ballistic not sure of the model, I got it as a combo with the PR900. I paid R5250 for rifle and pump from outdoor pitstop. You can check for Rashaad on the forum, really nice guy and will give you a good deal, I will send you his contact info
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner Thanks. I have seen Rashaad's name mentioned on the forum.
Yes, he is a nice guy and has been around airguns for a long time
Overfilled by Dinah Storm Rider how can I get it out
Just fire off a few shots
Did you flip the first part of the video, horizontally?
It is possible, sorry the video was done a while back. When I was a little less experienced with the videos I sometimes filmed using the selfie camera
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner I thought it might be, because the cheek piece and bolt handle seemed to be on the wrong side.
Hello there
I have a proboem with mine. I bought it brand new and for some reason it just would not fill with air. What can I do ?
@AIR~◇MAQ I have honestly not taken this gun apart yet but it sounds to me like you have a leaking o-ring somewhere. The problem could also be on your pump have you tested your pump by putting in the plug and checking if your pump reaches pressure.
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner yes I also think it is the o ring but not the pump. I used a compressor and it works but the air cylinder won't fill with air
@AIR~◇MAQ when you are filling the rifle can you hear air leaking somewhere? If it is filling properly then you should at least hear air leaking somewhere.
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner I didn't hear anything. I did check everywhere but can it also be the valve?
@AIR~◇MAQ if it is leaking the air must be going somewhere and if you say it is going to 120Bar that is a bit of pressure you will definitely hear or feel something. I really think the problem is at the filling portion of your rifle. You can do the tissue test at the breech/barrel section to see if there is a leak when the shot is fired
Is that the pump that comes with the gun?
I bought it as a package deal, but they are from different manufacturers
Tx.. a suggestion, please tell us what size pellets you shooting
Most of the time .22 I am using 14gr pellets
@@African-Budget-Pellet-Gunner tx... I just bought one of these, using 18g. From 25 m it was going through a coffee tin.. but only up to 17 shots... I was trying to work out how many shots are strong... I get about 30 shots, then must pump it again...
A great pcp to plink about...
When I pump up mine it's gets to 200bar quite quickly, but I notice I can't pump it higher, and yes I won't, but just curious to know, does it have a relief valve at 200 bar that is a protection against over pumping ?
I believe there is an internal relief valve in the pump yes but not sure what it would be set to from the factory as some guns run at 250bar some even 300bar so I suspect you would pop a seal on your gun before you reach the relief valve of the pump
You can perhaps check out my video on taming the unregulated pcp maybe that would help you. I have actually shortened my hammer spring to try quiet the gun down and I am operating between 110 and 130bar and get about 15 consistent shots
Прежде всего, новый насос нужно разобрать, удалить консервационную смазку, стружку, прочий мусор и грязь. Затем, собрать, применяя силиконовое или синтетическое масло, затягивая резьбы без фанатизма. Опрессовать, как положено, и использовать по назначению. Конечно, не забывая обслуживать по интенсивности использования...