$45 Amazon PCP Hand Pump Vs $240 FX & $225 Airforce Pumps - Shooting & Refilling Test + Review!
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- Shooting and filling the Diana Stormrider with all 3 pumps (Orcair/FX/Airforce) to see which is most efficient. Then we look at the features of each.
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Went for the $45 Amazon option and the pump is well built, easy to assemble and doesn't leak. Being 79 years old, this process is a little hard on my body and I had to give up with my tank on my Gamo Arrow only half filled. However, I found an electric dual voltage pump that pumps up to 4500 PSI on Amazon that was under $200, including taxes and shipping (Free). So I'll save my manual pump for a backup or when I want to see if I can use it to give myself a hernia....
Ther is no justification for this high price levels for pcp hand pumps, they are only tubes, rods, o-rings and cheap Gauges nothing much more and the production cost broberly 10£ or so and the rest costs for the overpriced company name.
Use a hand mirror if you're that self conscious. You should know the safety is on
100% correct
Mine arrived today.....blown away with the quality and performance. I bought another after first use. I have three BSA Ultras, a compressor, 7 litre bottle and now two pumps. My two eldest grandsons borrow a rifle each when they visit. It now means they can take a pump each and go their own way. They are light and with the folding feet, compact to slip into a back pack. Look after them and I see a lifetime of service. Serving and repair however doesn't daunt me as a I was a Siebe Gorman BA and compressor technician and instructor before I retired. I do recommend a decent oil/water trap. You can buy and inline QR one for less than £20 anywhere.
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Thanks dude! With enough comments we can beat the gun video suppression that happens on youtube constantly. I see you know how it works! Cheers!
The only thing I don't like about this P.C.P. is that you need to point the barrel at your face to check the pressure!
Simple just don't have it loaded while doing that.
@@OGs4OGs okay.
That is one reason why the Airforce airguns and the Benjamin marauder are on my favorite list. On the Airforce the tank and gauge are the rear end of the rifles and on the Benjamin marauder the gauge is on the bottom between the trigger and foregrip. This keeps you alot safer than the having the gauge on the business end. For the people with the gauge on the dangerous end always remove the magazine and fire a shot into the dirt to make sure 100% that the barrel is clear. Airguns are potentially deadly especially in the event of an accidental discharge like a hard knock or drop. Be careful people.
Get the Artemis Pr900w :) the meter is under the rifle, and it has a wood stock. But its the same rifle.
@@Tamlin73 Sweet. How powerful and accurate is this rifle?? Might make a nice piece of the collection.
Good to know. Thanks.
'just bought mine - very impressed !
Appreciate. I’m going to get it as a backup- for that price, why not?
I “ think” I stumbled into a pumping trick. Instead of doing a full travel pump motion every time, I will do maybe 3 quick, partial pumps from between about 3-8 inches( can feel pressure build up some), followed by a full travel pump. It seems to decrease the amount of full travel pumps by enough to make it worth it “ to me”. 🤷♂️😁 Cheers
Bought the Azamon pump. Filling My NOTOS to 3650, Made a Part to better mate the Handle to the Main Barrel, using 3-D. Seems good.
I think for his application it is a no brainer purchase. I would like to see a test up to 3-4k psi before being totally convinced as a outright replacement for the other brands. I also question the longevity at the higher pressure. Thanks for the video!
Solid! Thanks for the effort & comparison.
Yea. I paid totally €46 for my chinese handpump that I ordered from aliexpress for the use to fill my Sig Sauer Virtus 13ci PCP. Has worked well for me. Spare o-rings etc even came along. I did though put the pump onto an electrical pumping machine that I built. But itbhas served me well. I do clean and lube the lower external tube of the pump quite regularly - and sometimes I strip it apart to clean the check valve at the bottom, but I considerbit as plain maintenance to keep the pump going for a long time..
But overall I do personally think that a cheap handpump works basically as well as most more expensive handpumps (which are the same in build-class).
I once did find online a Diana handpump to be identical to my pump - but the price was €199(national postages still excluded) instead of €46 (free intl shipping included)..
Saw your amazon review, saw your video.. I bought it. Thanks dude.
I’m not sure if I missed you mentioning it, but I also don’t see it labeled on amazon anywhere, does it come with the foster fitting?
Yep it comes with the fill whip and there is a foster on it
@@airshootist awesome thanks bro, I’ve been wanting to get into PCP for years as I’ve always been into firearms but I thought the pcp world was out of my budget since all the guns I liked were thousands of dollars, but I then came across the Umarex origin which then lead me to the jts airacuda and now I’m just waiting on UPS to delivery it! Thanks again for helping me start out in the “real” airgun world. Lol the amount of money I’ve spent in the last 20 years on co2 bb/pellet guns is ridiculous 😂😂 gonna be making some videos soon to come on my experiences as a new pcp shooter.
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Pretty nice package for the price!
The filling source cost is one of the main things stearing me away from a first pcp...
[Pricing is worst in canada]
Surprised it's not outright banned up there like everything else! Haha jk jk but also sad face.... 😞
Can't you still use Amazon with just a currency exchange on the payment? Or maybe they have like an Amazon.CA?
cant help with price, but i used a handpump for many years. i then moved close to a scuba shop and got a tank and membership that gave me 2 fills a day. anyhow....pumping aint that bad...if your healthy......but theres so many small compressors in all kinds of price ranges. im now using a one of those 250$ china compressor + a couple of water oil separators
I just got this pump. I have to put together my hi-paq for my 2240. I have a few mods to make to make sure the valve doesn't blow in my face. Hopefully this pump works well.
Nice video! I have just got my Artemis P900 wich is the same gun as the Stormrider. And I got a handpump to keep thing simple 😁 Norway is cold so the themps would not be a problem working a handpump 😅
thanks
Oh! So it's normal for the pump to stay up after stroking. I mean, the black part you lift with the handle (yes I'm new haha!), once you're done pumping, remains a couple inches, perhaps a wee bit over an inch and half above the base, exposing the silver tube it rides around. Was the detail I was looking for, nobody mentioned it in any of the vids I watched, and was worried about my pump being defective. Just assembled it, now it's time to find where some tiny leak is, and voilá! Then wait for a nice day... haha! Anyway, thanks a lot for the vid mate, have a great one!
Thanks for the excellent review but unfortunately these have gone up to $59.99 on Amazon. There are still some other pumps there in $45 range only with mixed reviews.
That ridiculously low price couldn't last forever! Still a great deal and I'd go with the Orcair over others.
@@airshootist It looks exactly the same as other 45 dollar Chinese pumps.
Thank You for the review great video
I've been using a vevor pump to get my origin up to 3625psi for 7 months now and it's been great so far. I have an oring kit to rebuild it too if need arises.
How long did it take to fill the origin tank? Got one for my avenger as a back up and am little bit to intermediated lol! Got vevor brand also.
@pricelessppp takes 100 strokes to fill the origin from empty to full with a hand pump. Less than 4 minutes. I usually refill when it gets down to 1900psi which takes about 60 strokes.
@@NorthFloridaAirGunner Doesn’t sound to bad have you broke a sweat? Can this work well even with a vevor 45 buck pump?
@@pricelessppp 45 dollar vevor is what I use. Don't even break a sweat. And I'm a 30+ year smoker.
@@NorthFloridaAirGunner is anything special needed for the pump set up? I bought one but the instructions are horrible. I think it says something about silicone oil?
I bought one for my Marauder and it works well, see how long it last.
To be fair for the cost of an AC/DC compressor on Ali Express coming in at well under 150$....no way in hell am I spending that much money on a hand pump. I am a bit of a hypocrite to be honest because I do have 2 of these hand pumps @ 45$ each just in case of shit hitting the fan scenario but still....AC/DC compressors nowadays are just the way to go. IMO ALL of these HPA sources are made in China and a STICKER is added to them so we are paying more for a brand name...A "LOGO STICKER" essentially, and not a better product again this is just my personal opinion. Many/most of the products we use in the airgun world are made in China. It is what it is. I am not paying 5Xs as much for a product because it has a well known brand name on it. To me they only differ in the amount of stages ie...3 or 4 stage pump. Other than that they are the same to me. Nowadays these hand pumps are under $30 on Ali Express and I have of a few days ago looked at AC/DC compressors less than 100$ and free shipping. A hand pump is a great back up and all PCP shooters should have one.
Well your video convinced my cheap azz to buy one of these chinese pumps to go along with Barra 1100z .22 that was on sale for $225 haha
LINKS: (Buying via these helps the channel!)
Orcair Hand Pump: amzn.to/3O3Wi89
Or get it from Vevor (same pump) if you don't use Amazon: s.vevor.com/bfQg50
Airforce Hand Pump (Most sturdy): amzn.to/3NdWXBn
Cheap Moisture filter (You really should have one): amzn.to/3rcFMK2
Want a low-cost but great compressor instead? amzn.to/3Dz5Wdj
This compressor here is a bit more $$, but is a WORKHORSE: amzn.to/3WZORAX
Buy a Diana Stormrider rifle here:
www.anrdoezrs.net/click-100577055-13713383?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pyramydair.com%2Fproduct%2Fdiana-stormrider-gen2-multi-shot-pcp-air-rifle-synthetic%3Fm%3D4833%239674&cjsku=PY-4833-9674
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Yea, you pump that thing! Pump it up real nice!
30 pumps every 6 shots?
I’m gonna call an ambulance after 10min of plinking
And it didnt feel like "cheap chinese air" with the cheaper pumps?? XDDDDD (JK aight)
We pay up to 2000 danish kroner for a "proper" pcp pump here lol... sigh.... Im getting one from ebay next time....
I use that cheap pump to fill my origin to 3600 works great.
Great video and thanks for your efforts. I am 75 yrs old and for something to do, I just bought a Umarex C02 to plink with. I love to squirrel hunt so I have been entertaining a mid-range break barrel. While researching guns I became aware of PCP's. I have never heard of them. That being said, I really like the idea of the PCP with a mag-type gun. My concern was the inconvenience o filling the gun. I certainly prefer not to invest in a compressor but was calculating a small tank to take to the local dive shop. I have seen the hand pumps and figured they would likely kill me. Watching you actually use one, I think I can handle it. So, your video has convinced me to go ahead and pull the trigger on an entry-level PCP I can squirrel hunt with. Thank You. I subbed BTW.
Thanks! Have a look at some of my compressor reviews, they are cheap and 100% way better than hand pumping! Shopping through the links I put in my comments/descriptions on all my videos is a great way to help out my non-monetized TH-cam channel, too! Cheers!
@@airshootist Ah ha...will do.
have a vevor 3 stage and a beeman commander 25 cal. i can only get 5 pumps in... i dont understand 145 lbs i am and not really weak... the hell...?
Man it was tiring just watching you fill those tanks. I have the Hatsan hand pump, but avoid using it whenever possible. It's ok for small tanks, but for a 510cc FX bottle at 4500psi, no thanks.
Thanks for sharing 👍
I'm still tired from that pumping over a year later!
30~40 pumps for such little movement on the meter? How many pumps to completely fill the gun from empty? 1000? I was looking into a pcp gun that comes with a pump but this puts me off a little lol
lol no that's a small like 80cc tube. Less than 100 pumps probably. Now, the Airforce Talon SS I used to exclusively hand pump was probably 1000 or more strokes and it sucked but was a good workout. If you're worried about using a hand pump then just get a compressor, this one has been the absolute workhorse of the 7 or so I own: amzn.to/3RnD6Uq
@@airshootistwhat do you think about the TOAUTO A2X?
@@ShogunSaint ToAuto is really good but this is my current favorite amzn.to/3Rn4PEX
I own a cheap Chinese pump I bought online several years ago. I don't use it that often. However, it has always worked for me.
I boight a Vevore Pump and compressor, the pump is the same exact pump you have there.
I would like to see effect of speed on the pump.
That 45 dollar pump looks just like my air venturi g6 pump, I paid more than 2x that!
best part is: it was probably made in the same factory! Haha. The Orcair pump is definitely pretty nice!
Did the Airforce pump do better cause it had help from a shorter hose smaller diameter hose ? hard to tell in the video. I keep a very short micro bore hose and a Edgun Ezfill on my tank to minimize air loss. Next video how many pumps from a hand pump to fill a 100 cf scuba tank... keep the videos coming!
You know, I was thinking about the hose volume, too. I think the Orcair came in first, with lets say 27 pumps. Being new probably helps. Then came the Airforce with 30 pumps, then the FX with 35 but the FX's bleeder was not fully in so it leaked a bit while pumping. So maybe they are all right around 30 pumps. All 3 are 3 stage pumps, not 4 stage.
I one time pumped up a 68ci paintball tank to 3000psi from 0 just to see if I could. NEVER AGAIN
@@airshootist Did you get to 3000 PSI on that 68 Ci tank? If so, How many pumps?
@@kosasin1182 I've done it before but no way am I ever hand pumping a tank that big ever again when I have several compressors!
Nice review of the options for filling your guns
The Air Force/Benjamin pumps cost twice what they should.
Great video have to see if available in UK
Just got my first pcp and shopping now 💥🥊
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I have searched Amazon UK and can’t find the Orcair pump!
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All those pumps, just to keep it where it needs to be filled.How long does it take to fill the damn thing?
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Can you not swap the gauge and the outlet hose around on the FX pump to allow you to see the pressure while pumping and give you better access to the bleed knob?
You can. If I recall correctly I partially stripped the threads like 15 years ago and swapped them because I think the gauge had longer threads so I could teflon tape it better and get it to seal. It's ancient history now, but good eye, it's only like that because of my own misdoings! Haha
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Been using the Amazon pump for 3 years and no major issue so far. However, the gauge broke and is now 1,000 PSI below the actual PSI.
Great vid, I just got a 3622 that came with a cheap pump like the one you show. Don’t know much about PCP or maintenance on them.
How longs it take to fill an air gun?
I have been doing some research as I want to get into PCP from SSP and I read that you are supposed to wait a a second at the top and bottom of the pump stroke. Have you tried that to see if you can get away with less strokes?
Waiting is not necessary but you definitely want to make sure you go all the way up and all the way down for the most efficient stroke. And don't pump it like crazy in the summer without giving it a break, these can get a bit hot and perhaps melt a seal if you really beat on them. They are best suited for guns under 150cc, even though I got away with using them to pump a 490cc Airforce tank for over 15 years 🤣
I have rebuilt the FX and the Airforce pump more times than I can remember from all the use and they still are going strong
@@airshootist Thanks for the reply, for $45 it is a great way to get into the hobby.
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ive had my vevor pcp hand pump like 50 bucks and it started to fall apart and its only been 5 months
Currently unavailable but added to my shopping list.
Thanks for sweating and sharing.
A hand pump is a damn good thing to have around.... just in case ;)
I hadn't realized it was out of stock. Hopefully it will come back in stock soon!
I just this pump,it looks identical in every way from the one i got on amazon for 78 bucks..its under a diff name, Vevor..made by vevor..looks exactly the same,even the packaging inside is the same..saye made in japan
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Thank you Ken Block for that review!
Hahaha! You're not the first person to call me that! Cheers, dude!
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Just had one of these (Vevor branded) delivered and it is superb. I honestly cannot understand how it can be bought at such a low price. I've always used FX pumps and this is every bit as good.
Thanks for sharing.
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I’ll take 5 of the Orcair pumps all day long!
Absolutely. Wear one out? MEH!
As Easy-E would say: "Throw it in the gutta, and go buy anotha"
@@airshootist Absolutely NOT as that is just a form of conspicuous consumption, ewaste, runaway capitalism
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Good and informative video 😊
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Good info I just inherited a benjamin bulldog 357 ..no nothing about pcps
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