Evil Thundr He absorbed the powers and attacks to reach SS4. It is more unrealistic than some android much weaker than FPSS to reach something that requires Saiyan energy with near 100 fold increase(Beerus mentioned that he didn't even used 10%) and then some training. It is not plausible to have reached SS2 strength during the Buu Saga(which seemed to be the strongest form before Buu, SS3, and fusion), or anything around Buu level during that era for C17, so it seems far more contrived now.
Hello It is Me 17 was mentioned to have potential multiple times, and while he did absorb energy but he was already on par with Goku before absorbing anyshit. Also u say it's not possible to reach SSJ2 powerwise, u're forgetting that 17 was already stronger than normal SSJ
i love this very much! especially when you went into the z fighters versus 17 & 18. When 17 was like if you Jump in Im gonna have to jump in! It brought me back to a bunch of fights that i had to jump in during high school.
I think Detective Q and Geekdom should have a competition where they try to list as many Dragon ball facts in five minutes, every correct fact gives them one point, and if they get a fact wrong, they lose a point. Whoever has the most points in the end wins.
This is a great video. Well timed too. I'm thinking about doing a fan manga about how 17 and 18 grew up before Gero kidnapped them. Like I want to make a story about like an abusive father and then they decide to leave home and go out on their own because all the bullshit. Maybe they even get involved in a fight club and shit in the hood and that's why they are such good fighters.
A lot of DBZ had tons of additional dialog where in the Japanese version, there would be long moments of silence when having a flash back or surveying a battle scene, etc.
some interesting facts tbh :) didnt expect geekdom here though :D nice work for those who are interested made a video about the goku and jiren match up
How about, if you haven't already done one, a "Why are 17 and 18 so popular video?" Mayve they're not as popular as I think they are, but they are certainly a couple of my favorites.
Two angry chinese android are the most popular characters in dragon ball history. I love these two so much. 17 and 18 are like cool twins that you want to hang out with. Also fusion turn into lapis lazuli from steven universe.
I wonder if the fact that the gem stone that they're originally named after is blue is why their eyes are also blue? Different shade though, so maybe not. But man, I love their ice blue eyes.
WHAT IF another experiment for Cell had occurred but during the tournament of Power in Dragonball Super. Basically the drones that copied cells of the Z fighters was mimicking Angels, Gods of Destruction and all of the present fighters.
soo many videos about the androids lately xD. I loved that scene where 18 was trying on all those different clothes, she looked good in that suit! also that last image of 17 and 18 is just wrong ahaha
The first time I saw the Android arc was in the manga. (My brothers Manga btw.) When I Frist saw android 16, 17 and 18 my thought was like: ,, Wow those two girls look so cool!“ (at that time I was round about 7 years old hahaha) When I saw 17 fighting against vegeta I WAS LIKE I LOVE HER!!! Coz first just by seeing I liked 17 more but after this badass fight 18 rules. In Dragonball super I started to love 17 too cuz you know MVP. side note: The Manga where the Android arc was in... I painted it coz I wanted to color it. And well I got my brother hella mad 😂 good old days Hahaha.
Krillin was too chicken to jump in, then his wise decision able to supply his sensu beans to restore the other Z Fighters back to health and win Android 18 heart.
In French as well, they are all called C-number with the C standing for "cyborg". Heck, even Cell is called a cyborg in French. But technically speaking, that's incorrect. Only 17, 18 and Gero are cyborgs (humans with cybernetic implants/machine with human organs implants), whereas 16 and 19 are androids (robots that look like humans). As for Cell, he's a bioroid, that is an organic humanoid life form that was artificially created by genetic engineering.
Because "android" is the most common translation of the Japanese term _jinzôningen_ . Although it is an umbrella term which usually refers to any type of humanoid that was created or tampered with by artificial means. Toriyama decided to use this generic term for all of Gero's creations; however he did use the English loan word サイボーグ (SAIBOHGU = cyborg) when Trunks warned Gokû about those new fearsome enemies who would wreak havoc in the future. As mentioned in the video, it was Shûeisha, Bandai and Tôei Animation who opted for "android" when they translated the names into English, since it's the translation usually found in most dictionaries.
I like to say that when holy was fighting 17 in Dragon ball super when goku was ssgss he told 17 that he still wasn't his full power in that transformation
I really love Android 18 lazuli I'm glad she got a better life with Krillin had a child and became a mother unlike her future counterpart where she was just downright cold blooded killer I'm glad that dr. Gero Awakened them when trunks came back in time knowing that dr.gero needed to save himself from the z fighters and after Cell both of them got better chance in life even though later on Android 17 would killed Krillin later Android 18 and Goku would have to kill Android 17 off to avenge her husband's death
i believe Android 18 had the potential to get much stronger than how 17 got in Super because when you think about it, *what was Android 17 training with to get him to SSB level?* Whatever it was, it definitely most likely wasn't on even Krillin's level... Android 18 has so much access to these strong fighters to get herself powerful, giving her an *_advantage_* of getting stronger...
Call me Kakaragi, and why is I want Quaaman to try a Kuririn/Tenshinhan vs Saitama because he and a couple of other serious dbz fans that I deeply respect proved that Saitama was more Captain Ginyu's level, and was more to be called invincible in the One Punch verse and not the dbz verse. Kuririn (Krillin) and Tenshinhan are both stronger in dbs than in dbz. And I personally like Kuririn for if you think he is cannon fodder. So by now in the series they both might be almost as strong if not on par or stronger than Saitama. Also I just want to see a more equalized and fun fight, not some bloody curbstomp!
Android 17 is not far beyond Android 18. In fact, their powers are virtually the same, and the difference between them is in a small portion. This has been spoken since DBZ., Even the Android 16 had already said that both n. 17 as n.18 had the same level of power to face Piccolo. It would be something like n. 17 is 10.0 and n. 18 is 9.0, maybe 9.5. Very good proof of this is that Vegeta SS2 faced Ribrianne, and she did not express any difficulty, while Android 18 defeated her in full power and without major problems.
I hate to be THAT GUY, but if 17 and 18 are cyborgs, even in the original Japanese, "Artificial Human"(Jinzou Ningen) would be a bit of a misnomer when they should be refered to as "Reconstructed Humans"(Kaizou Ningen).
What gender would fusion 17 and 18 be?
Male AND female lol
Detective Q I always thought they would become a toaster of some sort
whats a smooth spot?
Apache attack helicopter
Frozone Ken Doll
"an old man and fat guy shouldn't be the main villains"
*has Buu and Babidi in the next arc*
Toriyama didn't have an editor or his editor didn't stop him at that time.
DatMysticFodder 💀
Too be honest. Fat Buu was just a Red herring. The "Evil" Boo was the true villain of the Boo arc.
nice profile picture haha
People like 18 more than bulma because 18 kicks ass
Thanks
I am glad they bring back 17 in super because in GT his character was wasted.
Dark Dragon He was still cool
Dark Dragon Actually Super 17 power up is more believable than 17 in Super.
Hello It is Me He had time to train in super while in GT u have 2 androids fusing who was below FPSSJ becomes SSJ4 lvl smh
Evil Thundr He absorbed the powers and attacks to reach SS4. It is more unrealistic than some android much weaker than FPSS to reach something that requires Saiyan energy with near 100 fold increase(Beerus mentioned that he didn't even used 10%) and then some training. It is not plausible to have reached SS2 strength during the Buu Saga(which seemed to be the strongest form before Buu, SS3, and fusion), or anything around Buu level during that era for C17, so it seems far more contrived now.
Hello It is Me 17 was mentioned to have potential multiple times, and while he did absorb energy but he was already on par with Goku before absorbing anyshit.
Also u say it's not possible to reach SSJ2 powerwise, u're forgetting that 17 was already stronger than normal SSJ
am i the only one who prefer 18 orinigal outfits
The demin jean jacket and skirt with strapped boots is her iconic look.
Meh, I always thought her Boo arc outfit, the black and white stripe sleeved shirt and blue jeans was her best look.
6:49
You forgot that Android 17 and 18 can absorb your energy.
- Death battle
this was recorded before buti get your joke
Sky Dome I hope he gives it to them. It'll make them a whole lot more useful and open up more possibilities
why did the invisible man reject the job offer?
he could not see himself doing it.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Mob I’ll send you $500 so I can use this joke
7:57 also its the best character on Steven Universe. Also love the editing for this video
Thanks bro.
Worst Steven universe character, love your channel but skill issue
All jokes aside, I want to see 17/Lapis's wife. I want his family to grow closer to the Z-Fighter's family (Bulma, Chi-Chi, Vegeta, Krillin, etc.).
Fandom says her name is Isabella (bruh thats not true since there are no official information)
i love this very much! especially when you went into the z fighters versus 17 & 18. When 17 was like if you Jump in Im gonna have to jump in! It brought me back to a bunch of fights that i had to jump in during high school.
those 2 cyborgs are awesome together!
Twitu androids
Cedricplayz whatever you like, roll with it
Cedricplayz the correct term is cyborg but i call myself android cause its more relevant
Android 17 the man has spoken.
But why not Lapis?
@@Cedricfilms “actually the correct term is cyborgs”-tfs trunks
If Qaaman hacked #18 I know what he's gonna do...😏😏😏
Care to explain as I pin your comment?
Detective Q *clears throat* you know why Qaaman 😏 you dirty Detective 😂😂 I'd do the same thing lmao
oh my *bad pun intended*
EXPLAIN SO EVERYONE CAN SEE ZARBON!
this is great lol
I think Detective Q and Geekdom should have a competition where they try to list as many Dragon ball facts in five minutes, every correct fact gives them one point, and if they get a fact wrong, they lose a point. Whoever has the most points in the end wins.
This is a great video. Well timed too. I'm thinking about doing a fan manga about how 17 and 18 grew up before Gero kidnapped them. Like I want to make a story about like an abusive father and then they decide to leave home and go out on their own because all the bullshit. Maybe they even get involved in a fight club and shit in the hood and that's why they are such good fighters.
Luykis Wamhoff got a link?
A lot of DBZ had tons of additional dialog where in the Japanese version, there would be long moments of silence when having a flash back or surveying a battle scene, etc.
some interesting facts tbh :) didnt expect geekdom here though :D nice work
for those who are interested made a video about the goku and jiren match up
Geek´s everywhere he is also an android :O
my favorite part of the Android movie was when they beat up trunks.
How about, if you haven't already done one, a "Why are 17 and 18 so popular video?"
Mayve they're not as popular as I think they are, but they are certainly a couple of my favorites.
Two angry chinese android are the most popular characters in dragon ball history. I love these two so much. 17 and 18 are like cool twins that you want to hang out with. Also fusion turn into lapis lazuli from steven universe.
Chinese? They never looked asian.
Also, Lapis Lazuli are Finnic Persian names.
Im suprised 18 didnt summon the dragon & wish for money
I wonder if the fact that the gem stone that they're originally named after is blue is why their eyes are also blue? Different shade though, so maybe not.
But man, I love their ice blue eyes.
Oh wow nice preservation!! 💯
I think the name android is fitting. They never acknowledged their human origin or past to the victims they killed. It makes sense
Really hope they bring in Super Android 18 form into DBS
"But if you look it up, you can learn about it"
Cool....
Since android 17 and 18 are alive after cell would 16 be alive as well cause of this wish to revive all who died by cells hand
ssj king no he's 100% machine. the androids were part human
Lord Popo awwww
ssj king dbs is not for kid. Haha
Wait, 17 has a hybrid child just like 18 does. That's cool.
18 has a gambling problem.
ha! That's where the money goes?
Mr.Gohan My thoughts exactly.
Detective Q
Yes, and u need to investigate.
In the Polish translation (which was translated from French) they were called cyborgs: C17, C18
WHAT IF another experiment for Cell had occurred but during the tournament of Power in Dragonball Super. Basically the drones that copied cells of the Z fighters was mimicking Angels, Gods of Destruction and all of the present fighters.
soo many videos about the androids lately xD. I loved that scene where 18 was trying on all those different clothes, she looked good in that suit! also that last image of 17 and 18 is just wrong ahaha
We have heard at least 100 times in your videos that 17,18 and cell exist because of the editor, but where did 16 come from?
Ngl. this is the best things you may not know DB character vid I've seen in a long time.
The first time I saw the Android arc was in the manga. (My brothers Manga btw.) When I Frist saw android 16, 17 and 18 my thought was like: ,, Wow those two girls look so cool!“ (at that time I was round about 7 years old hahaha) When I saw 17 fighting against vegeta I WAS LIKE I LOVE HER!!! Coz first just by seeing I liked 17 more but after this badass fight 18 rules. In Dragonball super I started to love 17 too cuz you know MVP.
side note: The Manga where the Android arc was in... I painted it coz I wanted to color it. And well I got my brother hella mad 😂 good old days Hahaha.
1:55 that cought me off guard in a hilarious way I expected you witch
Krillin was too chicken to jump in, then his wise decision able to supply his sensu beans to restore the other Z Fighters back to health and win Android 18 heart.
Torishima had to whip some shape into Toriyama when it came to villains.
i love these kind of videos! Keep it up!
thanks for making this video I really enjoyed it. I love 17 & 18 :)
Rhyce Redfern who do you love more
Android 17 you 17, you're my favorite out of the two :)
almost choked with the beard over the voice actress
all three of the renders of Android 18 I made are in here, sick!
I never thought I'd see my picture edited to be smoking a blunt lmao
Damn! Super 17 really is overpowered.
The is an excellent video. Keep up the good work
18 is bae
i love those two androids so awsome #17 and #18 and #16 are the only androids that are powerful in my opinion.
you and geekdom rock love it channel
Do 17 and 18 age?
Yes, but very slowly since their modified cells deteriorate slowly.
They do, but slower than normal humans because of all the enhancments.
@ 7:54 to 10:23 i really need to know the music thats playing, its really good
18 can reach 17 level if she didn't already they were created the same way.. She just need to leave Krillin , she was way more badass with 17 .
in italian dub the "androids" (all of them) were called C-number, so i argued C stands for "cyborg"
In French as well, they are all called C-number with the C standing for "cyborg". Heck, even Cell is called a cyborg in French.
But technically speaking, that's incorrect. Only 17, 18 and Gero are cyborgs (humans with cybernetic implants/machine with human organs implants), whereas 16 and 19 are androids (robots that look like humans).
As for Cell, he's a bioroid, that is an organic humanoid life form that was artificially created by genetic engineering.
Because "android" is the most common translation of the Japanese term _jinzôningen_ . Although it is an umbrella term which usually refers to any type of humanoid that was created or tampered with by artificial means.
Toriyama decided to use this generic term for all of Gero's creations; however he did use the English loan word サイボーグ (SAIBOHGU = cyborg) when Trunks warned Gokû about those new fearsome enemies who would wreak havoc in the future.
As mentioned in the video, it was Shûeisha, Bandai and Tôei Animation who opted for "android" when they translated the names into English, since it's the translation usually found in most dictionaries.
I got excited when i saw this video. i love the androids!
Hey qaaman when are you gonna do another live stream where you and blackenfist play connect four lol that was hilarious
I like to say that when holy was fighting 17 in Dragon ball super when goku was ssgss he told 17 that he still wasn't his full power in that transformation
goku not holy my phone dum
QES0282 STY0282 17 also said he was holding back
Hah, take that, Bulma…
10:17 Where can I find that "goals from tommorow" filler episode?
awesome videos guys!!!
I really love Android 18 lazuli I'm glad she got a better life with Krillin had a child and became a mother unlike her future counterpart where she was just downright cold blooded killer
I'm glad that dr. Gero Awakened them when trunks came back in time knowing that dr.gero needed to save himself from the z fighters and after Cell both of them got better chance in life even though later on Android 17 would killed Krillin later Android 18 and Goku would have to kill Android 17 off to avenge her husband's death
GT is fake. It does not follow manga. 17 never killed Krillin.
18 needs a power up!
6:20 I ain’t saiyan she gold diggin,
But she ain’t dealing with no broke ningens…
Android mutant. Infinite energy and energy absorption, that awesome.
It be cool if Super 17 became a transformation for 17.
But if they fused would they be Android 17-18 or Android 35?
10:13 - 10:35 Wait... where the hell is the video? I legit wanted to watch it.
Why did Cell gain so much power from absorbing 18? His power more than doubled.
i believe Android 18 had the potential to get much stronger than how 17 got in Super because when you think about it, *what was Android 17 training with to get him to SSB level?* Whatever it was, it definitely most likely wasn't on even Krillin's level... Android 18 has so much access to these strong fighters to get herself powerful, giving her an *_advantage_* of getting stronger...
Excellent editing
Cool video can you make about Saiyaman and Saiyagirl (me and Videl)
Yes but it would be seperate
I just realized that lapis and lazuli is also in Steven Universe named lapis lazuli
Thanks Torishima ❤
why not hack me 😔😔
You're dead LOL
Android 16 atleast you still got your birds buddy
He was entirely artificial so technically he was never alive. xd
Android 17 where's Android 13?
Android 16 data not recognized
I just read db forever population poll yesterday to see how popular vegeta is. I was disappointed in results..
Detective Q I need your assistance in find android 18 3 sizes for research purposes
@geekdom101 Megumi Ogata is Kurama's voice actor
The other guy voices Yoko Kurama
Does this mean that android 17 in super is universal
I'm never eating play dough again.
you guy's ever think of doing a podcast?
Yo what is that good animation
Could you also try to do a Saitama vs Tenshinhan or Kuririn please?
Hagane no Saiyajin Why though?
Call me Kakaragi, and why is I want Quaaman to try a Kuririn/Tenshinhan vs Saitama because he and a couple of other serious dbz fans that I deeply respect proved that Saitama was more Captain Ginyu's level, and was more to be called invincible in the One Punch verse and not the dbz verse. Kuririn (Krillin) and Tenshinhan are both stronger in dbs than in dbz. And I personally like Kuririn for if you think he is cannon fodder. So by now in the series they both might be almost as strong if not on par or stronger than Saitama. Also I just want to see a more equalized and fun fight, not some bloody curbstomp!
Is everyone going to ignore this now?
old guy and a fat guy? insert majin buu comparison
Android 17 is not far beyond Android 18. In fact, their powers are virtually the same, and the difference between them is in a small portion. This has been spoken since DBZ., Even the Android 16 had already said that both n. 17 as n.18 had the same level of power to face Piccolo.
It would be something like n. 17 is 10.0 and n. 18 is 9.0, maybe 9.5. Very good proof of this is that Vegeta SS2 faced Ribrianne, and she did not express any difficulty, while Android 18 defeated her in full power and without major problems.
good video
when trunks word got broken hyrudagan should have come from it
Why did you flip the video on a number of the clips?
To avoid copyright
Yeah, I could understand that. ;)
Yo how long did editing this take
A while...
I hate to be THAT GUY, but if 17 and 18 are cyborgs, even in the original Japanese, "Artificial Human"(Jinzou Ningen) would be a bit of a misnomer when they should be refered to as "Reconstructed Humans"(Kaizou Ningen).
Wow, they creative with those Fusion names, didn't they? :/
go 18!
Where are we going to watch the movies in jp
ANDROIDS!!!!! I THOUGHT I DESTROYED THEM!
*pulls out sword with triggered face*
I can't find the subbed for history of trunks
ok no way you said A17 was way stronger than A18 bc he fought SSB Goku like they wouldn’t still be equals bc they both train? 😭
Why did gero make 17 & 18 androids? Did he know them? Did he just find random teens off the street
"Did he just find random teens off the street?".
Yes, that's exactly what happened.
And because they were trouble makers that didn't care bout anyone
What if Lapis met Launch and married her? Hmm that would be pretty funny.
Trunks SSJ 12 Launch is older than Krillin.
SomeSubs Hey man...If Bulma's mom still looks (is) young...why not Launch. you never know.
I don't remember that part in Gt?
Android 17 need more personality g power in next db
Why not mention Lapiz Lazuli from Steven Universe?
Because not everyone watches Steven Universe. I didnt when I edited this video.
I love this too xD
Is today Android week or something?
Yes!
Detective Q Oh cool. That makes a lot of sense for these video themes besides the problem with the Frieza saga video.
How can you have unlimited energy and still absorb energy?
how are they one year apart if they're twins
Lars Honeytoast 😐
Fareezy
After 1:59-2:01 I have now lived.