Mormon Secrets: What the Missionaries Don't Tell
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- When the Mormon missionaries come knocking at your door, there is more than meets the eye. They say they are Christians, but there's a lot they are hiding from you! What would it look like if they were actually honest? Let's find out!
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Fun fact about the "magic underwear": Originally these holy symbols were cut into the underwear with a knife while the applicant was wearing it. But this, for some incomprehensible reason, lowered the number of converts drastically and so it was abandoned pretty soon.
Never heard this one before.
Somehow, it recalls the Holy Bible accounts of demoniacs CUTTING THEMSELVES.
Mormons: a cult.
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And these magic underwear (garments) have Freemason symbols all over them.
I have heard this and the knee mark was made into the flesh. It was a symbol of plural marriage. Women complained because the garments were the same as the men's. They also didn't want a scar on their leg.
Do you have any references we can look up?
Mormons sure make great neighbors. No loud parties, work all day, sleep all night. Sometimes I give their kids Mountain Dew!
Sandy Carty Thanks for the Mountain Dew.
tyndale25 Sandy is corrupting Mormons one caffeinated drink (I've seen debates about whether those violate the Word of Wisdom or not) at a time.
Captain football well every group has a few of those. :-)
Sandy Carty I work with many and they are selective about obeying many of their beliefs. They will lie when it helps other mormons and admonish or lay off and fire a non mormon despite their work record or tenure if another mormon wants the job. And I have a mormon supervisor that guzzles Coke all day and complains that his wife makes him turn off his phone during church so he cant check NFL games. Sounds like my kind of religion. They are also one of the richest religions in the world and put money above everything. Marriott is a huge Mormon corporation and they have a book of mormon in each room and guess what they offer on the TV's in each hotel room for a fee? Yep X rated movies. What hypocrisy!
sonoran rain
There are hypocrites in all denominations. And plenty of hypocrites who are not religious at all. That said, I've had experiences with Mormons who live their lives contrary to their professed moral tenets (again, that can be said about other denominations too - LDS Wards are not the only places in which people can be found casually talking throughout prayers at times for instance). I agree about Marriott - owned by a devout professed Mormon with a huge standing in the church culture.
They left out the part about believing Jesus and satan are brothers
And that black people are evil
I heard that too but they say or they will tell you that it is by default that Jesus and Lucifer brothers because we are all spirit children of the same God, which would include Jesus and Lucifer. This is not surprising since the amalgamate anything between the soul, human spirit, and what they believe which is that we were spirit children before coming to this world, that people can become angels or gods, it's not surprising that they would believe Jesus and loser for are brothers.
They think god was man lol
"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed." (Galatians 1:8, 9)
Amen!!
Rev 14: 6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,
Interesting that the testimonies of the apostles was written but still he saw another angel preach the everlasting gospel to the ends of the earth.. interesting isn't it
@@nsasquad7220 So it would have been the same gospel, not a new gospel with new requirements. The Book of Revelation is full of end times prophecy. This angel would have carried the gospel to all the nations through the work of Christian missionaries, like Paul and Barnabas, and others, over the centuries. It's part of the Great Commission.
@@lawrencehorner8418 agreed.. the same gospel, but the fulness there of. There are many reasons for the existance of so many different churches. Most commonly you will find difference in interpretation and people not agreeing with one another. The fact that there are so manu churches is prove of the fulness of the gospel being lost, so anyone could say anything and start a church. That is why we speak of a "restoration", because if the gospel wasn't "broken"(fulness of it taken out), then there was no restoration needed.
I can give you traces in the Bible of how the fulness of the gospel is not in it.
We (members of the church of Jesus Christ) believe that the Book of Mormon contains this fulness and together (BoM and Bible) testify of Christ(by the mouth of 2 or more witnesses remember? ) and now with 2 testimonies you cannot talk about "interpretation" anymore.
Also, they killed the prophets and apostles, read Amos 3:7...
They are needed to keep the doctrine pure and full.
@@nsasquad7220 And I disagree that the Book of Mormon is anything but another gospel. The Gospel was complete at that point for centuries, but some people will never be satisfied by the Gospel and its simple requirements - that you repent and accept Jesus as the perfect sacrifice for sin.
Many members of the LDS church that are posting to this video are claiming the short containes lies and inaccuracies. Allow me to say that as a former missionary for the LDS church, all the precepts put forward in this video are fully supported by official LDS doctrine as taught by their own prophets and apostles through the years. (Except for my mistake of putting a garment mark on the left knee).
It's funny how you lie! Planet kolab? Secret signs?!? There aren't secret signs!! You're the liar. I would try and help you by telling you more about the gospel, but you are probably going to resist. Please stop spreading lies about the LDS church. You are making people believe in this! That's horrible! I hope that they can be saved. Be prepared, my fellow people, the second coming is near. Then we will all be judged and placed into a kingdom!! 😄
Madi Jones Have you read your own scriptures? Please read the Book of Abraham Chapter 3 and you'll learn all about Kolob. There is also an LDS hymn about it, hymn #284 - check it out on sunday during sacrement meeting. And clearly you haven't been through the temple yet or you'd be acquainted with the secret signs. When you go through the temple for your first time, please remember back to this cartoon and your comment that I am a liar.
Madi Jones someone obviously hasn't been to "temple" yet. you're going to spend a lot of time shaking the hand of a man behind a curtain.
Madi Jones Lucky that when and if you do go through the temple you wont be subjected to the rituals we were before 1990, or you'd be waving your arms about chanting pay lay ale, simulating slitting your throat and disembowelling yourself and vowing to always obey your husband. Ahh, those were the days.
Madi Jones hello sister. Here is some information I found: Kolob is a star or planet described in Mormon scripture. Reference to Kolob is found in the Book of Abraham, a work that is traditionally held by adherents of the Mormon faith as having been translated from an Egyptian papyrus scroll by Joseph Smith, the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement. According to this work, Kolob is the heavenly body nearest to the throne of God. While the Book of Abraham refers to Kolob as a "star",[1] it also refers to planets as "stars",[2] and therefore, some Mormon commentators consider Kolob to be a planet.[3] The idea also appears in Mormon culture, including a reference to Kolob in a Mormon hymn.[
Mormons DO tell people these things. A Mormon missionary explained EVERYTHING you point out in this video to me in around 1979!
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Except for the sacred meeting everything in this video contains commonly known and accepted Mormon teaching. They are NOT secret. If you talk to a Mormon missionary for more than 5 minutes you will be told ALL of this stuff.
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You know you CAN ask them questions LOL
+Bow Head Who says Mormons are pissed off?? They just think you are idiots and lairs. You are living in a fantasy. :>)
truthseeker staats
What gets me about this Bow Head person (and Darkmatter2525) is that they obviously never sat down and talked to a Mormon missionary (for more than a few minutes) and then they make up their mind that it's bull shit.
I sat down with Mormon missionaries for meeting after meeting (hours of discussion). I asked many questions and got many answers. Everything contained in this video (except what goes on behind closed doors) was clearly explained to me.
I even met the Bishop and spoke with him for over an hour.
Only then did I determine in my own mind that I could not accept their teachings.
Only a complete FOOL makes up his mind about something before he has all the facts.
What really gets me about this is that is the MO of the atheist and they present themselves as "intellectuals."
Jeffrey Dean "What gets me about this Bow Head person..... "
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Well look at the head on him.... LOL......
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Who's this Dark matter dude?? I would like to give him a lesson on Dark Matter and the existence of the Spirit world. It is the same reality. :>)
2 min in and this shit sounds funnier than scientology
Is it any wonder they don't tell you this stuff when they talk to you?
@@benrichardson5662 of course they can’t tell the dirty secrets and dark history of Mormonism. How will it recruit people to a cult if they know all the blood on its hands? People don’t realize because Mormons are so happy and friendly on the surface, but underneath? Manipulation, complete control over your life, and turmoil.
It really sounds like scientology got some ideas from this
If lying to advance the faith is truly part of The Church of Mormon, it sounds as if Mormons took a page from the mohammedans as well as Scientology.
🤷🏻♀️Just sayin...
@@bigtone7824it did. Mormonism did Scientology before Scientology TBH.
I once had LDS missionaries come to my door that said just about everything said in this video. Not all missionaries leave these things out. Even as funny as this video may look, it is pretty accurate. ☺️
actually their mythology lines up with a lot of speculative history regarding the atlanteans... the elves in tolkien's mythos, the tuatha de danaan, the biblical nephilim, it all has a common basis, and even scientology's Xenu/Xemu lines up with this common theme
@@rickdeckard1075satan
No, it isn't our doctrine... misrepresenting any parts that are, by making the things of deep doctrine look ridiculous, is also deceptive. It you try to force meat onto a baby, he's going to choke... Paul taught that the meat of the gospel is that part which you cannot bear until you are able to digest milk first to find truth.
@@stephtimms1776 I meant the way the missionaries are shown here is accurate. My comment had nothing to do with the doctrine. Missionaries do have a high tendency to stink at preaching along with making the Church look ridiculous. This is sad but true. The Gospel is awesome! Missionaries sometimes are not so awesome.
@@benjaminA.stantonpun I've always admired the missionaries, unless they were breaking rules. God can help us make weak things strong, and I think people who are seeking humility and gratitude do not tend to look at them or anyone with a critical eye, but with the love of Jesus Christ.
I was raised Mormon wanted to hear something I didn't know, I basically knew all this. It's weird thinking about now
Yeah bro. It messed me up for a long time after I started asking questions.
Anything can sound weird if you frame it in a silly caricature of itself all the Mormons I've met are awesome amazing ppl I live across tge street from elders I'm an atheist tho but I enjoy talking with them
Larry Tinsley sounds like both Alagass and I are former Mormons. It really is that weird and not just how they frame it. The more you research the church, the weirder it gets. Trust me.
@@jeremygalten tell me how it gets weirder thus far it is no weirder than any other religion every other form of Christianity is just as weird and all other literal ist religion
@@larrytinsley4247 How about when females are "anointed" by a senior female member of the church, they wear the celestial vestments (aka magic undies), and the anointing locations touched by the priestess, are the nipples and vagina?
Or the fact that there is a gigantic golden calf baptismal in the Temple in SLC, Utah? Where, during the "baptism of the dead" - a surrogate living person, takes on the soul of a dead person, and baptizes them into the LDS church. Thus, increasing the heavenly population with more... creators?
I can imagine, my Scandinavian ancestor sitting around the grassy fields of Folkvangr, chatting away for the millionth time about how he died in battle and was whisked away by the Valkyries, and drinking it up - when, he suddenly feels an odd feeling in his chest! His vision begins to swirl and blur, it feels like the Berserker mushrooms Bjarne gave him - but, no... strange visions of... a cow shaped bath... neat! But, filled with men in strange clothes... not neat at all. Then, without notice - WOOSH! His soul is ripped from the eternal brouhaha of Norseman Heaven, to what surely must be Hell. No drinking, smoking, drugs, or sex?! Truly Norse Hell!
That *is* what they believe. And they already got all the famous people souls - and that's what the whole genealogy thing is about with them. Putting your entire knowable family ancestry [dot] com, that they used to own, all of their souls, into the LDS heaven...
Is that, weird enough?
+Annika Capener says "Mormons don't believe other churches are wrong they believe they don't have the whole truth. Do your research before you make a fool of yourself with wrong ideas." Apparently she didn't read Joseph Smiths first vision where God told JS that ALL the Christian creeds were an abomination, and that ALL the professors of Christianity were corrupt. You may also want to see carm.org/does-mormonism-attack-other-religions for tons about what Mormons actually teach about Christianity. Please rethink calling me a fool with wrong ideas until you get your facts straight Annika.
And the first vision of Joseph Smith says all other churches were "wrong": www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1.19?lang=eng#18.
The other churches have bits and pieces of the gospel, but not the whole gospel.
Madi Jones which part of your gospel is true? The part of polygamy? The racists gospel of the curse of cain? How about. Oh yea. Your god gave a revelation to change his earlier revelation. So what you are saying is that having the fullness of the gospel and the only true gospel is that it has to be given and then changed to fit the current social climate??? Ok, I get it now.
***** MORmONDUMB just rehashes catholic heresies...prophet for pope.
***** Quality not quantity
Funny video. As an ex-Mormon myself, I praise Jesus that He rescued me out of there.
Re: PROMOTE RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE
Tolerance implies no lack of commitment to one’s own beliefs. Rather it condemns the oppression or persecution of others
~ U.S. President John F. Kennedy
To: @SummerSunshine1988 ...
Religious Bigotry Is Unacceptable.
I am a convert to the Church. This is my church. I am TBT&T. True Blue Through and Through. You were a N.O.M. ... a Name-only Mormon.
Being an ex-Mormon doesn't give you the right to persecute the Church.
Stop trash-talking my church.
Other than that ~
We wish you well.
SEASONS GREETINGS.
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@@harryabelpotter9630 Merry Christmas to you too. I didn't mean to trash talk, only to give glory to God. I do apologize if I offended you in any way.
To: @@SummerSunshine1988
The following scripture, 2 Nephi 1.15, expresses my witness better than I could ever hope to:
But behold,
the Lord hath redeemed my soul from hell;
I have beheld his glory,
and I am encircled about eternally
in the arms of his love.
And all the glory be given
to the Father
in the name of the Son
by the power of the Holy Spirit.
God Bless you with sunshine,
all the days of your life,
in the name of Jesus Christ.
P E A C E
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Mormonism is merely a cult like the jehovah's witnesses and scientology. They were deceived by false prophets and freemasons. All were created by satan because he wants us dead, that's why he created them. They claim to save you if you follow their rules but the bible says; "by faith are ye save, through grace. It is the gift of God, not of works least any man should boast".- Ephesians 2:8-9 and "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."- John 3:16
I would say the most important thing to look at is: does the book of Mormon inspire you to come unto Christ? what does Grace mean? how do we accept it? Vocally? and does the church do good for others?
"Dont Question The Leaders"
This is what made me question and end up leaving this cult.
Nobody says not to question the leaders. They just ask you to go to them with your concerns instead of drawing people unto yourself. Your doubts are the same doubts anyone who is in a faith requiring religion eventually has to go through. I’ve been there, I’ve been in and out of activity in the LDS church (whether mentally or physically active) and remain even after losing belief in a God at all. Most people who leave lose faith in god, so naturally anything that requires faith or belief in things unseen or that sound logically impossible are mocked or cast aside as if they were silly.
EVERYONE is encouraged to question the doctrine and find out for themselves that it is true. No rule says "Don't question the leaders"
That should be a red flag when they tell you not to question the leaders.
I don't know how a kid in his 20s can be considered an elder.
Penfold8 he’s a young Elder 🧓 😇
@@hbendzulla8213 That makes him an Oxymoron then.
@@Penfold8 It's a position spoken of in the Bible.
Most of Mormonism is not based on logic or the Bible.
They say elder means teacher, not someone old
It's an office in the church. It's not a suggestion of age or wisdom.
I remember discussing with the Mormons on my street about their wacky doctrines. We went around and around on various strange topics. In the end I said, "Will I get to heaven according to Mormonism if I don't accept it." The response was, "Sure you will eventually." Then I said, "Why should I bother then?" I find it one of the wackiest belief systems I've ever come across.
good point.
There are different degrees of glory in heaven. What they meant was that you would get into a degree of glory but it wouldn’t be the highest glory. And no non members are not it the lowest degree of glory either
Wacky WITH secret underwear!
Who could ask for anything more?
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If you study all religions with a critical eye they will all seem wacky.
Like Scientology both are wacky
What if I get to the gates of heaven and I forgot my password? Can I reset it?
I probably laughed to hard
Those days are over. You need 2FA now to get in.
😅good question
Lmao
You could probably just link your account with an authenticator app, hope this helps
They came to our house . My dad , a card carrying Atheist let them in . It shocked me . He listened to them allowed them to use the television to show a video . Took the Book of Mormon from them and then they left . I said to dad , " But I thought you did not believe in God . " He replied . " I dont , I was just bored and needed a laugh . "
😂😂😂
Who asked?
Non-mormon here 🤚 And I think that's very rude. Your dad can do better.
That sounds like something I would do. They get to proselytize and do their mission work, and I get free entertainment. It's a win-win.
@@alanaholland8566 🤓
I grew up in the Mormon church and resigned in 2005. I can testify that his video is ALL true!
It's 50% lies. You are not being honest even with yourself.
Yes they don t tell the truth. I was teached by the missionaries but nothing about this they didn't tell. Plus they get married so young after their mission right away. Terrible. Just terrible.
I'm an active and faithful Mormon. I served a mission myself, and I love talking about these subjects. The reason missionaries don't bring them up is because the average person doesn't have enough background to understand these doctrines. I can't think of anything in this video that was a flat out lie, but it's not the whole picture.
The majority of Judeo-Christian theology is symbolic, and it's sometimes difficult to discern what is literal and what isn't. The signs and tokens in the temple ceremony, for example, are symbolic. God is not going to send us to Hell if we can't remember them. They're symbolic of the changes that mortals must make to become worthy to enter into God's presence. Likewise, Kolob is symbolic of the presence of God. It doesn't have to be a literal, actual star. (and thanks for not calling it the planet where God lives like most anti-Mormons do).
As someone who knows and understands the doctrines, as well as the doctrines, history, and practices of many other Christian denominations, I can say with confidence that Mormon doctrine makes more logical sense, and fits the Bible better than any other interpretation. But you have to fully understand the basic doctrines before you can understand the beauty of these "Mormon Secrets."
A Christian is someone who believes that "...there shall be no other name given nor any other way nor means whereby salvation can come unto the children of men, only in and through the name of Christ, the Lord Omnipotent." That is from the Book of Mormon, and is the core of all Mormon Doctrine.
+Lance Miller Well Lance, As a born again Bible believing Christian I must (Jude 1:3). This will be very brief since theres so much out there already exposing Mormonism. Mormons, like most cults, claim their sect is the only way to God and ONLY THEY hold the key. The Canon was closed and their was no need for it to be retrieved (as Mormonism claims). Mormonism calls Jesus a liar - He said he would build His church and the gates of hell would not prevail against it. Jesus did not need a 15 year old boy in New York in 1815 (?) - Joseph Smith to continue His church through super natural glasses (about 1,800 years later)! However, Mormonism must have this "special revelation" through T.B.O.M. and Doctrines & Covenants otherwise it will not stand! They have cleverly assembled modern day apostles who have a direct connection to God. So, for example, when Utah was denied statehood if they did not end polygamy, they conveniently had a revelation that God told them to stop! Dont mean to be antagonistic, just stating the facts Ive learned about LDS over the years.
Since it's Christmas, ll leave this for others to think through (and you may certainly correct me if you like Lance).....when Mormons discuss the virgin birth of Jesus their interpretation is that God himself in physical form came down and had a literal physical sexual intercourse with Mary to conceive Jesus. Think about that as it compares to how nearly EVERYONE interprets the virgin birth! Merry Christmas 2015 to the one and only true Jesus!
+TUBED ONLINE yeah, that's not doctrine... not even close... In the early days of the Church, leaders shared a lot of their own speculation in General Conferences, but none of it was doctrine. Doctrine comes via revelation only, not as speculation.
The only thing that "closed" the canon of the Bible was the death of the Apostles. Wicked men closed the Bible, not Jesus. The Bible is nothing more or less than the words of God's prophets, and it was Catholic priests who decided what that canon was, not God. As long as God speaks to prophets, there will be scripture. That's how it's always been since Adam. So why would the martyrdom of His chosen Apostles change that!?
Oh... And no one but Christ holds the key to salvation...
+Lance Miller So how do one get to spend eternity together with the Father, in your view?
By making and keeping covenants with Him. That's the simplest answer to that question.
We make our first covenant with Him through the ordinance of baptism, and we keep that covenant by repenting of our sins. The Sacrament (Holy Communion, Eucharist, the Lord's Supper, etc) is another ordinance through which we remember and renew the covenants we make at baptism.
In the temple, we make the same covenants that God made with Abraham, and the ordinances of the temple are symbolic of those covenants.
It's really not that complicated, and its all biblical.
Lance Miller
So you can make sure you deserve to be there, by doing all those things. Is that what you mean?
This is crazier than I originally thought it was, wow.
I didn't realize how much the Mormon teachings fit into the category of gnostic heresy
where Joseph Smith got alot of the ideas with some freemason ceremonies as well
That's what Azrael Ohndi Ahman said.
YES!!! I've thought that too. Modern day gnosticism in my opinion.
I am LDS and a student at Brigham Young University. As a life long member of my faith, I have struggled at times to understand certain "problems" and/or "controversies" surrounding Joseph Smith, his vision, the gold plates, the seer stone, and many other things. This semester, I decided to take a course that the university offers called "Joseph Smith and the Restoration." In this class we look at a variety of primary sources (both positive and negative) that examine the events surrounding the organization of the church in the 1800s. While it is difficult to approach this subject without our biases, we have attempted to look at the events from a historical standpoint as well as a spiritual one. My studies have brought me to a few key assertions that have strengthened my faith in Jesus Christ, my Heavenly Father, and his Prophets.
#1: Joseph Smith was a man, a young man in a historical context and culture that is so different from ours today. Many of the "controversial" things surrounding his life can be understood through a clearer understanding of his social and cultural construct. Furthermore, as stated above, he was just a man, an imperfect man who went through so much suffering and stress at a young age. By the age of 27 he had organized a religion, translated (or written if you don't believe he translated it) the Book of Mormon, buried more than one of his children who's lives were lost to illness, been beaten by mobs, tarred and feathered by one who claimed to be his friend, betrayed by several others of friends in contemptuous ways, and he had lead a group of citizens who were reviled for their faith across 5 states by wagon and foot. Summing it up: he had a bunch on his plate. I don't expect perfection of him or of every little word he said; but I do know that if I study what he claimed to be revelation in the spirit of sincere prayer that I am lead to be closer to my Savior. The Book of Mormon bears witness of Jesus Christ and his sacrifice and anyone who reads it cannot deny that his mission is central to the mission of the text.
#2: You talk about a lot of lies and I don't blame you for feeling that way. I felt that way too when I found out certain things later in life about the church that I had not known before. However, I can better reconcile these emotions in light of Paul's council to the Corinthians: "I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able" (1 Corinthians 3:2). We need the simple stuff before we can stomach the more complex things. I am sure when Peter and Paul preached to the gentiles they kept much under wraps in their initial visits because they wanted to focus on the simple and important truths, not with a mission to deceive but with a desire to inspire. I do not think they said to all in their first visits that one of their Master's best friends sold his life for a few coins, Moses and Elijah appeared to him on a mountain, and almost everyone in Jerusalem thought that they were all a bunch of looneys for believing a story about a resurrected being that the Roman army proved was a fake because they saw the disciples remove the corpse from the tomb. You will find there is very little of that in the epistles and in the acts, but there is a significant amount of these men focusing on Christ's atonement for man's sins and the duties which they as followers of Christ were expected to fulfill. Maybe that is all a stretch and I am basing it on my own phenomenology, but I hope it makes sense to you too.
#3: Life is a learning process and most of these young missionaries that come to your door are very young and have a lot to learn. I know. I served a two year mission and I made plenty of mistakes in the way which I taught people. I tried my best but was often clumsy and a little too over-excited about my faith perhaps. It was especially difficult because I had to preach in Portuguese, a language I did not speak one word of when I started my mission. These boys and girls sacrifice two years of their lives to go out and share what they believe. Many of them hadn't taught a lesson about anything before they left. Many of them have family struggles at home based on finances, shaky relationships, and sometimes death. The past two years of my life have been spent teaching these missionaries at the Missionary Training Center in Provo, UT where I teach them the Portuguese language, the Gospel of Jesus Christ, and how to teach that Gospel in a simple and clear way. I have not been a perfect teacher, but I have always tried my best to follow what I believe to be promptings from the Holy Ghost to help these young, often nervous, men and women prepare to preach. They are not perfect in knowledge, they are not perfect in teaching, they are not perfect in behavior, but many of them are near perfect in their desire to serve the Lord in the best way they know possible.
Lastly, your name is Saved XMormon. If you are happy because you left our faith then please continue to build your faith in Jesus Christ; however, please don't do it by mocking young men and women who are just doing the best they can to teach their message and please don't belittle their hard work and sacrifice. Few people care as much about the people they teach as do Mormon missionaries. Even if I were to have left another faith to join this church I would not publicly mock those of my past faith who shared with a message that meant a lot to them out of the bottom of their heart.
May our Heavenly Father bless you and all those who view this video that they can seek His will through sincere prayer and pondering.
P.S. Good job on the art! I don't know if you do this animation stuff a lot, but I was pretty impressed by all the work you did. I doodle super heroes sometimes but I have never attempted digital animation. Did you get this program online? Was it free? I might it use to make some videos for my classroom or for assignments (I'll be a high school English teacher after I graduate this April).
The fact remains that Joseph made it all up.
You started out well, but soon devolved into the usual rationalization that every apologetic relies on.
Stephen Nothum Thank you for your thought out response. However, social context doesn't resolve the problems with Joseph's theology, nor does implying that Joseph Smith was human and imperfect. No prophet has ever been perfect, we are all sinners. But when a prophet - a true prophet claims to be speaking on behalf of the Lord - what follows must be perfect. So either he lied or he didn’t. So how do we know if he was lying? Well, for one we know what God has already told us - so just line up Joseph’s teachings with that. For instance, Joseph taught during the King Follett discourse that god was once a man who eventually attained godhood, that the universe is filled with gods, and that men may become gods. However, in Isaiah 43:10 God said in as plain language as is possible that there were no gods before Him, and there will be none after Him. As a prophet, Joseph LIED. --> therefore, false prophet. As for the "missionaries" - my real purpose isn't to ridicule them as individuals - having gone through that hell myself for two years I fell a great amount of pity for them - beyond just knowing that they are following and preaching a false gospel. And though they are unseasoned in life, they are still not entirely innocent - most of the missionaries I served with were very arrogant, myself included. I thought I was an LDS doctrinal expert (amazing that in truth I couldn't possibly have been more ignorant), and it was driven into us that as the ONLY official and ordained ambassadors (other than the "bretheren") of the ONLY true church on the earth we had more power and authority as individuals than all the ministers of all of Christianity combined! And we walked around believing that. So they should be able to stomach what this video offers. The missionary scenario simply put was the best way to present the information I wished to convey so I went with it. And as for the two kids themselves, they're fictional characters, not based on any specific person, it's just satire so just take it for that.
Stephen Nothum As for your questions about the art, it is called Anime Studio. It will run a few hundred dollars, but you can get free trials and a much cheaper "lite" version to play around with to see if you like it.
The Bible contradicts itself all the time so to point out some scriptures that contradict LDS doctrine doesn't really phase me. There are scriptures that "contradict" nearly every Christian faith, which is why so many of them branch off and prescribe to different doctrine. One reason this happens is because when the Bible was Jerome originally translated from the Greek and Hebrew into Latin he was highly influenced by Neoplatonic theories of thought. Neoplatonism was a temporal theory based on man's wisdom (and we know that God's thoughts are above mans so to combine the two for a translation might not produce the best fruit). This first translation was called the Vulgate and it was the standard in Christianity for over one thousand years. It was not until Martin Luther got the original Greek and Hebrew and translated them into German that he saw all of the issues with the translation and how doctrines had been affected by Jerome's translation (95 thesis). Now 1000 years of Christianity has come and gone, all influenced by one mentor text (the Vulgate) which was a bad translation (not the thoughts of the LDS church, but of scholars of translation theory). Now, we have a book that has been through so much translation and shifts in states of mind. It is no wonder that there are discrepancies in doctrine between all faiths. Now, I read and study the Bible daily and I cherish its words; but I always take into consideration these facts surrounding the genesis of the KJV of the Bible that I use today. I must study with a spirit of prayer so that I do not misunderstand the doctrine as it may be clouded with the errors of translation.
With that said, my testimony of the Restored Gospel of Jesus Christ is clear and simple: "Jesus Christ taught by your fruits ye shall know them." I have tried to live the gospel of Jesus Christ as taught by the scriptures and by modern day prophets--I have seen the fruits and they are wonderful. I do not wish to discuss logic, rhetoric, or organization; these are useful concepts, but they are inventions of man. I do wish to witness that I believe what I believe because I followed Jesus Christ's advice about looking to their fruits and it is clear that this gospel has brought me closer to my Savior and helped me to understand His Atonement.
I had a good conversation with a mormon missionary. I was walking home after shopping beer and cigarettes. He asked if i heard about the book of mormon. I told him i watched the southpark episode. It was funny
These were things I didn't know until after I joined the Mormon Church. Also, I was never told that black people had dark skin because they had been cursed by God and so the black men weren't allowed to hold the priesthood. Nor was I told about Joseph Smith's polygamy or that he "translated" the golden plates that became the Book of Mormon using a seer stone that he put into a hat. There are many other things they don't tell you. You learn about them once you are deep into the religion. And there are even veteran members who still don't know these things.
Joseph Smith was a Con Artist Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb Dumb
Did you leave the church after coming to more knowledge?
In my own personal journey in Mormonism, I had two shelf-breaking shocks. The first was the temple endowment ceremony. I had to strip naked and had a poncho over me. An old man touched my body in various places and anointed me including "the loins". The ceremony started with a warning over the speaker: "If you proceed and receive your full endowment, you will be required to take upon yourselves sacred obligations, the violation of which will bring upon you the judgments of God, for God will not be mocked." I had no idea what I was getting into. It was the first major clue that I was in a cult, and I had to mimic ways in which I could have my life taken if I were to violate those vows, including revealing things that I was being taught.
I went on my mission shortly after that. When I was teaching Mormonism I began to understand that what I was teaching to new perspective members wasn't a fair representation of what the church teaches the members, especially when they get to the endowment phase. This video would have been wonderful to see before I became LDS. It would have saved me from converting to Mormonism and wasting valuable years of my life.
@@escapefromthecityand Thank you. A constant reminder of my family tree and crazy great grandfather Baloney.
I'm curious, what was it about Mormon faith that convinced you of its truth in the first place?
@@ABSTRACTSHNITZEL Good Question.
1) My age - I was a teen, so I didn't really have a good basis for getting the full implications of what I was taught.
2) The missionaries sugar coated and under-informed me about the doctrine. I really only learned a superficial amount about the LDS church, as do pretty much all investigators.
3) I was convinced that emotion elevation was "the spirit", so they played to my emotions.
4) They love bombed me before and after joining.
5) I didn't know much about Christian doctrine.
6) I liked that they had an answer for all of my question, regardless of their veracity.
@@moronibaloney6888 I see, I understand. And why do you have Joseph Smith representing your avatar?
@@ABSTRACTSHNITZEL Homage to my LDS past, and my overall knowledge of Mormonism. It's a little hard for me to keep up with the latest changes to doctrine and even attitudes about past doctrine that is now disavowed. Joseph Smith was a man, but the Mormon churches have elevated him with mythology.
Accurate. I spent about 4 months hanging out with Mormon missionaries just to understand what they believe and plus they were really nice. I found out most of this in about month 4.
It took you FOUR MONTHS to learn all of this? Well, thanks to the Uploader of this video...it took me 4 minutes and 24 seconds to learn it.
@@BrockLee3 except when you live it, these 4 minutes and 24 seconds has a history of hidden layers in it. Like the whole part of not criticizing church leaders. That part includes all the nonsensical bullshit they say all throughout your life and you are supposed to bear witness that it's all true and inspired by God.
Once a month on Fast Sunday, after you starve yourself, you get to stand before the congregation and speak into a microphone and say that you know Joseph Smith is a prophet of God who restored the true church and that the church has a prophet today and that the church is the only true church on the earth. It's repetitive and redundant.
The Temple part was accurate also. But living it and going through the temple is hours of ritual stuff when the overall themes here are drawn out and magnified. The final stage is doing these secret handshakes on one side of a curtain through a hole (like a glory hole minus the blow job). You do these handshakes with senior citizens behind the curtain or veil as it's called. After the tokens and handshakes, old man river opens the curtain and you walk into heaven (the Temple Celestial Room).
@@gdog3finally I know, bro. That was a joke.
I find it hilarious how we're not to criticize ANY aspect of ANY religion. I was raised Muslim; but, now I hate God with a passion. When I was a kid, they told me that God created EVERYTHING! So, I asked, "Then, where did God come from?" And, I remember it so well when the teacher said, "You're not supposed to ask that question." We learned about how "Thou shall NOT kill." But, when I learned about Noah and God killing everyone in the flood...I asked, "Wait. God told us not to kill...so, why did HE kill all those people?" And, I got the same response, "You're not supposed to ask that question." And, I kept asking questions which I "wasn't supposed to ask." But, I'm supposed to dedicate my whole life to something without knowing some important stuff about it? Even as a kid I knew all this religion stuff wasn't right. But, when I heard about Mormoms, I was like, "What? They actually believe that?" It was on a whole new level of dumb for me.
@@BrockLee3 They probably don't WANT you to know early on
There are many issues with Mormonism vs. Biblical Christianity. I am ex-LDS, now a born again Christian. There are some very serious issues theologically with Mormonism I have came across. In this video, it was presented that Mormons are Polytheistic, which they are completely and Christians are Monotheistic, because of what the Bible teaches.... But you know.... D & C 20:17 and Alma 11:26 both declare Eternal Monotheism. This would go against what Joseph Smith taught with that God was once a man along with other Prophets. I read in a comment down below Mormonism the least we need to worry about because they are good people. Well, I love Mormons. I am in a heavy LDS community in Utah Mountains and 90% are Mormon here.... But the problem with Mormonism is they are not saved and they are leading other people to destruction with them. I am praying that I am able to share the gospel of Jesus Christ with my neighbors.... I love them so much and even my own family is Mormon..... They Need Jesus.... Thanks for sharing.
shanestjohn1
From one nonsense to another nonsense. What a Middle eastern book collection "teaches" in which bats are mentioned beside other "birds/fowls", while they are mammals and in which the creation line is entirely debunked, while none of the mentioned people really existed like Moses or Noa(c)h - is as relevant as what Merlin did according to British mythology.
Angelmou I believe in creation and therefore am responsible to a Creator and have put my trust in Him thus, not having a life without meaning when I die..... You, sounds like, have no hope in your belief (evolution is a belief) and when you die, in my eyes, you will have eternal separation and punishment from God. Hmmmmmm..... That is a hard choice, correct? I admit, mine is faith. Yours is to. I just have hope. I am sorry for you.
shanestjohn1
1.) Feelings of Sensefulness or Meaning are a taste, like liking carrots instead of beans. It is not generalizable at all.
Someone feels fulfilled, when he climbs a mountain or sees his daughter smiling the first time, while another guy or girl hates mountains, doesn't like kids at all and loves watching wrestling.
2.)The Model of Natural Selection, called Evolutiontheory is a model which explains the facts of changing of lifeforms with natural breeding processes by predators, parasites, climate changes, rivalvry, poisons, sexual preferences like colorful feathers etc.
It is not an "opinion" to know that it works, similar to the Theory of the Earth orbiting the Sun, which is also only a "model", only a theory. You can't "try" it on sunday or maybe monday and it doesn't give you satisfaction.
3.)"You will have eternal separation and punishment from God. That is a hard choice, correct?"
Nope. Your pleading is at the exact same level as someone, who is pleased by a visit in a brothel, telling me how incredible satisfying his visit was, while someone calls this sinful and is disgusted by it.
The god-believe-sin or jesus-love-sin is at the exact same level.
It is pure hedonism.
If you wouldn't get hope=pleasure out of it, but instead depression or physical pain, like a nail is ripped out, you would drop it in a wink of an eye.
In fact you are associating cold scientific explanations with personal negative instincts. "Oh they are cold, hopeless and senseless, so I need to satisfy my animal instincts instead with emotional porn!"
It is pathetic.
/watch?v=nSqJ-7tg0Eo just emotional porn.
Angelmou I don't see how you wouldn't be depressed by not having hope? Just live and die, for no reason other than the grave is our destiny? If I was an evolutionist, I would definitely be depressed because there is no hope.You definitely seem to believe in what you do for your reasons. I don't agree with you, but you show lots of faith, much more than mine. I feel bad for you, I know this doesn't affect you, but I do... I hate to see good people with no hope.
shanestjohn1
That is not really a reply to my statement.
I explained that depressions (negative emotions) and believing of being chosen, also hope (a specific form of joyment) are randomly connected individually and therfor mean nothing, when it comes to decribing parts of reality like the Planets orbiting the Sun or the selection factors for animal populations for example.
The hope for gold at the end of the rainbow won't change the rainbow in something else than an optical reflection phenomena in the distance.
"If I was an evolutionist, I would definitely be depressed because there is no hope."
Hope-absence, similar to the absence of a sexual orgasm doing describtion in whatever model about reality is just another reason why a model is correct, because it is not connected to human desires and dreams, only to reality alone.
No one can be an "evolutionist" or a "gravitationist" - even when many christian people freaked out as Newton claimed that not Angels by the command of god moves the "heavenly bodies", as it was believed during that time.
Here the world as it was decribed in the bible:
www.earlyjewishwritings.com/images/genesisearth.jpg
While people believed the stars where divine lights of heaven behind the waters of the skydome where god flooded the world through the windows/gates according to the Noa(c)h myth.
As I said before feeling depressed about the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow, doesn't change what a rainbow is.
The human or person and their pleasure seeking for personal salvation is not in the middle but the field of research.
When we do talk about parts of reality it would be bizarre if someone begins to talk how much he wants to get a specific meal the next day. This person would be entirely driven by his animal instincts for eat enjoyment, sex enjoyment, salvation hopes - No rational person is such a puppet.
For some odd reason religious people focus on what they desire the most and want it to become real.
An egocentric, even egomaniac position upon what someones may enjoy.
Maybe the main reason, why they want to doom other forms of enjoyment, like the hope to get their own planets (mormonism) etc. which based on the exact same desires, just another bizarre form of it disconnected to the real world.
Pretty interesting how there's no cross on any Mormon building.
They seem to be afraid of the crucifix 😢
No it isn't lmao
Take your heresy somewhere else please it ain't worth arguing about in the comments section of a video.
As an ex Mormon raised in Utah, it’s scary how accurate all this is.
I know right it is
Why is this video in my recommendations?
same here, why the fuck was this recommended for me
ShadoeWynd Exactly.
maybe your getting a hint from god?
+zeekthe hammer I also get random recommendations of Indian soft-core porn, but I don't think that's a hint towards me becoming a pornstar.
Its the magic underwear
I'm mormon and I can reassure everything in this video is accurate it's time for Lds to stop teaching half of our doctrine to get people to join. Stop sugarcoating our beliefs to get more members. This is the reason why I started questioning our church.
Well what do you know, an honest Mormon has spoken. Good on you Khen.
Props to your honesty!
Thank you for being super honest, that's just .. wow.
And this chick needs more upvotes. It's easier to have a respectful dialogue between parties when one half isn't trying to deny everything theotherhalf says. I hate how often these things devolve into af hominem attacks. Good on you for being so helpful.
Mormons are not Christians and will go to Hell Fire
I did a mission myself in order to please my family, and then came home knowing I just wasted 2 years. I no longer practice. I confirm all this video has to say, I had a good laugh so thanks :)
Then you know for a certainty that the church is true and made covenants in the temple. What could make you leave after having two wonderful experiences like that?
@@masona8313 You're gonna tell me what I know and believe? Thats satans plan right there buddy... As far as those being "wonderful experiences" goes, PTSD, anxiety, depression, and neurological damage from extreme personality/lifestyle changes (all of which I never experienced before) says differently. And not to mention I'm still going to therapy after a year of returning home from my mission.
@@masona8313 Not one of our cullts "truth" claims is actually true ... not one :(
What "covenants"? You do know that everything we do in the temple is a cheap copy joseph stole from the Masonss right? Joseph became a 33rd Degree Masonn less than two months before creating our own "endowment" ... coincidentally, ALL of our "signs and tokens" are exact copies of Masonic secret handshakes ... hmmmmmm ...
I no longer attend our cullt because after my mission and getting married in the temple, I learned the truth.
Not a single one of the "truth" claims of our cullt I based my testimony on is actualy true ... not one :(
It takes a tremendous amount of courage, honesty, and personal fortitude to admit to yourself that you were deceived and what you want to believe simply isn't true ... good luck kid.
@@masona8313
The TRUTH is what made Me Leave. Thankful I found it out and Im OUT! I can finally THINK for Myself
@@lifeofty3766
Good Luck. You probably don't need therapy just the Knowledge that you're on the Right path helps a Ton!
I was born in Salt Lake City into the Mormon faith. In my early teens I started questioning the logistics and teachings of the church and finally walked out when I was 15 years old. I still have many relatives in the church but do not speak with them about their beliefs. I am just surprised that they still believe the ridiculous teachings of the church/cult without question.
Same thing goes with the Jehovah witness
Sheila it going to be supper funny for you in some years down the line...
I just wonder if you will remember this answer then.
@@andresps9170 At age 73 having traveled the world studying cultures and religions I doubt my opinions will change. And yes, I will remember what I said. Made the decision to leave the church in 1965.
@@sheilalarkin1291
Ohh my dear...
It's not like you have much time left, all that knowledge that you accumulate is useless compared with the testimony of the gospel that you are refusing to acknowledge, I wish it's not to late for you to repent and come back to the lord and the only true and complete church, remember it's never to late if are still here and breathing, the lord love you beyond anything we can comprehend.
Good luck.
Brainwashed
as one saved ex mormon too, I was LDS .. this is totally what the Mormons really believe, they just don't want to tell you. They use Christian terminology but pour a completely different meaning in to it. very deceptive watch out when they come to your door.. and pray for them, they need the real JESUS and his saving grace.
We have no evidence to substantiate that Jesus was even a real person, let alone to think he did the miracles described in the bible. There might not be a REAL Jesus.
Mark Hansen Wow, this really shows how out of touch you are. Hardly any credible historian would agree with that. Of course anything is possible, but it's more probable than not that Jesus actually lived 2,000 years ago.
Rob Sivulka
You wanna know what's "more probable"? There was this mortal man, born of mortal parents. Whatever his name or nickname was is irrelevant. This man proved to be a good leader, gathered a following, became a threat to the power structure of his day and had to be dealt with. That very same scenario has played out throughout history countless times.
The world would argue that you are the one who's out of touch, Rob. Whatever your beliefs are, 2/3 of the rest of the world's population believes in something else, or nothing at all.
RedDelPaPa Well at least about 98% of the world agrees with me that the supernatural exists. And we have the burden of proof? Please! You naturalists are simply blind. I don't know why you even bother trying to argue with me, since in a naturalistic world, I'm simply determined to believe what I'm going to believe. However, you arguing the way you do demonstrates to me that you seem to think I have the ability to freely choose otherwise.
The evidence is quite clear that this good leader under question claimed to be God in human flesh. He was either a nut, liar, or He was really who He claimed to be. Given the prophecies written about Him hundreds, thousands of years before He came on the scene (e.g., Isaiah 53), and given an inference to the best explanation from history that He rose from the dead, my money is on Him rather than you or anyone else. Again, if you want more development of all this, then please check out www.ColdCaseChristianity.com. If you want more to read on the defense of the Christian faith, then please check out www.PleaseConvinceMe.com.
Rob Sivulka
Hey bub, if you think you're accomplishing something by walking around outside of the Mormon conference center with your neon sign yelling at all the misled Mormons to check out your website so they won't have to go to "hell", knock yourself out cupcakes.
Wonder why I've never had missionaries reveal so many "sacreds" at my door! Nicely done.
Top page.
I've had two missionaries come to my door three times now. I engage them in conversation and I'm respectful but I have also let them know that I am a born-again Christian. I keep asking them questions and they gave me a copy of The Book of Mormon. I keep asking them questions to hear their answers and it's been cordial and friendly. However, I'm not sure what they plan to accomplish. I specifically asked them some things that stumped them so it surprised me that they keep coming back. I'm wondering what they think they are going to accomplish. I know their faith...better than they do. It's going to be interesting. I keep asking them why they think the "angel" that spoke with Joseph Smith was any more valid than the "angel" that spoke with Mohammed? They don't know. I asked them who Elohim's father was. They don't know. I asked them how they know when they have attained salvation. "We won't know until we die." Things are coming to a head. They asked if they could make an appointment to give me a lesson. That's not going to happen.
As a former LDS missionary, I can tell you that they sometimes prefer a stubborn investigator than to have a bunch of doors closed in their faces. They speak with you because you are engaging and a challenge.
@@moronibaloney6888 Thanks. Good to know.
They low key might be interested in what you have to say. I know a some exmos who started questioning during their mission.
@@dergin38467 I will always engage. I feel it's my duty to tell them the truth. What they do with it is up to them but I know someone needs to tell them.
its because you talk to them and engage them. From their eyes you are actually a target worth pursuing.
This was one of the most succinct, accurate summaries of Mormonism I've ever seen... which is so ironic lolol
why is it ironic?
Used to be Mormon didn't know about the secret handshakes lol
Do they have secret milkshakes?
alwaysopen lol
You didn’t learn about it because we don’t have them
Owen Wade Is Satan your brother?
Owen Wade i was lds for 3 yrs. My husband was raised that way. It is true secret handshakes. Its done in the temple. I grew up no knowledge of scripture. I accepted and believed mormonism after reading book of mo and seeking. After temple and next to impossible special underwear i reached out to God. I said it feels wrong Father please advise. After reading the true scriptures The Bible I had to leave. because joseph smith is a liar. I want to bear my testimony that Joseph Smith is not a prophet that President Monson is not a profit does the Book of Mormon is a lie and that Mormonism as a whole is a cult.
I was raised Mormon and half of my family works for the church, were missionaries and my grandfather is a bishop and this video is 100% accurate! Thank God I eventually came out of the church..er..I mean cult
God bless you on you journey out of the cult of Mormonism (or as my friend calls them the news Muslims)
missionaries told me they do not believe they become gods and get to populate their own plane.
@@frostreaper6077 they’re lying to you. I was Mormon. They do believe that.
@@erickunderwood3425 I thought so .I was telling them how you cant deny the deity of Christ and how the book of Mormon contradicts that and itself. Jesus said I and the father are one and it calls jesus Everlasting father and mighty god. The bible said god is spirit and not once flesh and bone like they say.
@@erickunderwood3425 They were young 18 and 19 year olds and had no clue.
This should be changed to Mormon secrets most missionaries don’t know
To: @jarron udy ... Religious Bigotry Is Unacceptable. Anyone who could be deceived and brainwashed by such obvious religious persecution must have already had a large cancerous lump of prejudice in their heart. ... What kind of Christian are you !!! ... or ... are you an atheist?
Harry Abel Potter,
When you’re born into a religion it’s pretty easy to be brainwashed, especially when you live in a community where everyone believes the same thing. Happens all the time
PROMOTE RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE
Tolerance implies no lack of commitment to one’s own beliefs. Rather it condemns the oppression or persecution of others
~ U.S. President John F. Kennedy
To: jarron udy ...
There's no excuse ~
Religious bigotry is religious bigotry no matter what faith tradition you were born into.
BTW...
I am a convert to the Church and
It's my church not your church.
Now,
Stop trash-talking my church.
Other than that ~
We wish you well.
Oh yah,
You never answered my question.
What kind of Christian are you ~
Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant ~
or are you an atheist.
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@@harryabelpotter9630 At this point your copy/paste comments are spam. The LDS are brainwashed into following a false God, a false Jesus, and they follow the king of bigotry, BRIGHAM YOUNG who said the following:
"You see some classes of the human family that are black, uncouth, uncomely, disagreeable and low in their habits, wild, and seemingly deprived of nearly all the blessings of the intelligence that is generally bestowed upon mankind . . . Cain slew his brother. Cain might have been killed, and that would have put a termination to that line of human beings. This was not to be, and the Lord put a mark upon him, which is the flat nose and black skin."
Brigham Young was talking about Africans, Negroes. Today the LDS church continues to use Brigham Young's name for their university.
@@harryabelpotter9630 - Go cry about feeling persecuted somewhere else. This is a public forum. Nobody is knocking on your door to tell you that your church is wrong. That is what LDS missionaries do.
I can’t stop laughing, this was great and accurate
I was raised Mormon in a very active Mormon family, attending church every Sunday, graduating from Mormon seminary with 4 years of doctrine and scriptural studies, attended Mormon temple ceremonies hundreds of times, and lived in Africa as a full-time missionary for the church. I must say, this is the most factually accurate summary of Mormon beliefs and doctrine in under 5 minutes that I've ever seen or heard
+tekdro Ha, ha, ha....... read my post above. Were you the klutz missionary getting slapped up side the head in this video by the other?? Too funny.
+truthseeker staats yes, I'm a cartoon. That should be relatively easy to believe if you believe the Mormon church is true
+tekdro Cartoon?? I meant "klutz" in real time. Must be if you say those things I posted are not true. Either you were never a missionary or a liar now whether YOU don't believe in the church or not. That means..... if you don't believe in it... why lie about what others do believe in??
+truthseeker staats Your comment is very hard to decipher. I don't know which words are typos and which are just grammatical errors. You asked if I was the missionary getting slapped in the video, which is a cartoon, so I answered sarcastically that yes I'm a cartoon. I could tell you which specific mission I went to, from which ward in which stake, the date I reported to the MTC, under which branch president and with which companion I served as district leader there, who my roommates were on which floor in which building, and who my mission president, trainer, companions, DLs, ZLs, and APs were in the field, but my privacy concerns are greater than my need to prove myself to a random guy on TH-cam. Suffice it to say, I absolutely was a missionary for the Mormon church. Nothing in my first post was a lie, I just didn't want people who don't know much about Mormonism to be deceived by the comments posted about the video being totally untrue. I've seen, been taught, exposed to, and experienced the things in this video for myself.
I guarantee I'm a much more credible fact checking source on Mormon doctrine than some kid blindly defending what their parents have raised them in a Mormon bubble to believe. Any Mormons claiming this video is totally false are most likely too young, too recently baptised, or for whatever other reasons have never been through the temple themselves. Since it's too "sacred" (secret) to discuss what goes on inside the temple, any Mormon who hasn't been through it themself has never been given the slightest idea of what ACTUALLY goes on inside, to such an extent that most people, including myself and many of the friends I grew up with in the church, are confused, bewildered, and even put off by the unusual, cult-like ceremonies performed inside. Even being raised Mormon attending church weekly my entire life I wouldn't have been a credible source about what goes on inside Mormon temples until I finally went through myself at age 18. I probably wouldn't have believed it either. It was hard enough to believe when I went through and saw it with my own two eyes
tekdro "Nothing in my first post was a lie, I just didn't want people who don't know much about Mormonism to be deceived by the comments posted about the video being totally untrue."
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No one said it was all a lie. You are now back peddling........... " I must say, this is the most factually accurate summary of Mormon beliefs and doctrine in under 5 minutes that I've ever seen or heard"
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Go to Moondog's post and deal with those 9 miss-leadings and see how far you get.
Bring both your eyes with you.
I'm a Mormon myself and I find this really hilarious (sorry to all my fellow Mormons) and it also shows half of what I have been feeling and what is on my mind regaruding this.
Please Summerize what is it
Windson Ma If you click on the link it's an open letter by someone who resigned from the LDS Church written to CES about reasons for resignation.
***** Sorry not a subcriber and not plaining on being one
Windson Ma What is what?
writerteacher1 What liink? How does it pertan to me
The part about marriage ceremonies for the Dead that caught me off guard
I recently visited a Christian Church in Utah that is primarily attended by Ex Mormons. I spoke with a group of young men who left the church after their mission. They told me that as they are going through missionary training before they go on their mission, the highest authority leaders tell them, “It is okay to LIE about our religion, if it works for getting more people to join our church.”
I'm an ex-mormon and returned missionary. I was never told in the MTC or anywhere at any time to lie, and any such an admonishment would have seemed extremely out of place. I can't claim such a thing was never said, but if it was I feel confident it's not something routinely stated. That being said, mormonism definitely adheres to a "milk before meat" way of thinking where the crazier parts are not discussed with the public or new converts, and the craziest stuff is not even discussed amongst members and the leadership has been heavily involved with whitewashing it's history, witholding evidence and documents, and editing their scriptures and past statements of leadership. The organization is dishonest, but it's not the case that lay members or missionaries are directly told to lie, though the highest ranking leadership are absolute conmen. Interesting article here: www.mormonthink.com/lying.htm
They do say that. "It's ok to lie as long as it is not to another Mormon."
Smith used deception if in his mind; it resulted in a good outcome. Smith believed he knew when God approved of lying. For example, Smith wrote that God commanded the prophet Abraham to lie to protect himself and his wife Sarah from harm (Abraham 2:23-25).
Smith believed God also approved of murder if it was for a good cause. He wrote in the Book of Mormon that Nephi was inspired by God (1 Nephi 4:6) to deceive and murder his uncle to obtain an Israelite history. In Missouri, Smith and his counselor Sidney Rigdon, threatened to kill Mormons who disagreed with Smith's commands (Quinn, The Mormon Hierarchy: Origins of Power, Chapter 3, "Theocratic Beginnings," pp. 79-103).
What a stupid comment. I study these New Religious Movements and have never heard such nonsense. You don't even seem to know who this "highest authority is" that tells them this. Mormon missionaries, like most other religious recruits, will indeed withhold info about the more unappealing aspects of their religion and obfuscate to potential recruits, but nobody tells them to lie.
@@masonthexmormon505 Well your statement is mostly true lol ... I can personally attest to my own mission president giving zone conference trainings (over a hundred missionaries), about the importance and necessity of what was supposed to be our teaching method ...
He claimed that "lyiing is a sin, don't do that", but that there exists a line between outright lyiing and telling the truth ... it was our job, as missionaries, to get as clooooooooooooose to this line as possible without going over ...
The message was clear ... don't tell outright liies as missionaries ... that is wrong ... but RIDE THE LINE as HAAAAAAAAAARD as you can ... as long as you don't go over that line, deceiving people is 10,000% approved, acceptable, and even encouraged ... by my mission presiident to 200 missionaries ...
So no, leadership doesn't say to outright liie, but what my mission presiident ORDERED US TO DO is another data point .... :P
@@masonthexmormon505 Hey Mace, do you have facebook? I'm an ex-mo, and I'd love to have a conversation about you, regarding how you left Mormonism.
The "Sister Missionaries" that came to my door were woefully unprepared to answer my questions. One of them even assured me Joseph Smith only ever had one wife. HUH??? If all the Missionaries where as honest as these guys their pyramid scheme would quickly collapse.
You'd be surprised how many Mormons aren't aware of Joseph Smith's multiple wives. That church likes to whitewash many of its disturbing past issues. It isn't the missionaries who are lying as you can't lie about something you don't know the truth about. The problem is the leaders of the church controlling the information taught in church.
Like the cult of scientology, they don't tell people shit
It's funny how all the Mormons are like "This is so false! I won't tell you in what way it's false but it's false ok."
And all the former Mormons, who've gone through the same church classes, served missions, attended BYU, etc. are all like, "No, this is really accurate."
Go ahead and read my comment, I tell you exactly why it's false.
@Meli Penfold - _RIGHT!?_ 😁
@@danielbernecker Naw this is acrate they taught me this in church bro
If the person heard how way out their beliefs are,there would be no converts.
As an adult hearing crazy shit you don't believe it because your an adult. But taught as children it sound normal. Some guy walked on water, and healed disabled people with a touch/spitting on their faces. He could cure leprosery, which back then was like cancer, (in terms of life threatening-ness) and only 1/10 people thanked him. He died brutally, got up three days later, and could teleport afterwards. Doesn't that sound a little crazy?
@@crso6830 You must be an atheist.
@crso6830 in Judgment day you will stand before Him, what will you have to say? I pray that you seek Jesus and repent, Jesus is the way, truth and the light.
@chainsmoker6628 I'd probably tell him the truth. "You're my hero. I wasn't expecting you too be a God too". I'd also ask him how judas died.
@@chainsmoker6628 dose that awnser the question that was asked in good faith and totally not rhetorical
I died at “special holy underwear”😂
When I lived in Las Vegas the Mormons would D drive a small bus past our house with new missionaries. They would point out the house and warn them to never visit. What an honor!
I'm ex mormon I with with the church 20 years I never heard that before. Don't you think I remember if some was excommunicated you're not allowed to visit
It would be my honor to invite you to ask God the Father in the name of Jesus Christ what is true.
What?! Stop. Hahahaha. This is one the funniest I’ve heard yet tho
Great anecdote. I can so relate. I had to threaten them with legal action to remove my name from all their records to get them to stop pestering me. So nice to hear of somebody who succeeded.
I lived in Salt Lake City and I had the opportunity to visit a temple being built and it had not been dedicated yet, and they were giving tours and they had 3 or 4 layers of plastic covering the floors and they made us wear plastic booties over our shoes. It was odd because it wasn't like a church where you have one large room with pews and a pulpit and or altar. There were all these various rooms, each room was for a different ceremony. And a very fancy looking locker room, think YMCA meets 5th Avenue and Gucci. The only room that had pews was a room they use for singing hymns and the choir. Very strange, and they think us Catholics are strange.
+andrew j wolf I am really excited for the pre-dedication Open House of the Provo Town Center Temple beginning mid January and running into March. I am inviting any interested person to attend. You are correct in saying these temples are different from chapels or churches. They are much more sacred than our churches and are used during the week. These are actually closed on Sunday even to church members.
+tyndale25 i would never darken your door, there is something wrong with these people who cannot see what a farce this cult it.
+jill schafer I guess we cannot see your point of view, because we have seen the blessings that come from it. Have you never had a spiritual experience? Have you ever seen how so many people suffer because they don't follow what the LDS church teaches? I have seen it. You hear about it everyday. If living a life that brings joy and happiness comes from what you call a "cult", then I am happy to be a part of that "cult". I'd like you to tell me what is so wrong with it. All I see is a faith that teaches you not to do things you will later regret, and that if by chance you do something that you regret, then a way is provided to help you make amends to anyone you may have hurt, and to then find peace.
+Kevin Jensen it is a good religion if you turn your brain off and follow.
+utahbac, that shows how little you actually understand about it. I guess you actually have to live it in order to understand it.
I had a mormon bishop uncle and come to discover through dna research I have 6 mormon cousins who I will likely never know as I'm sure they dont want to speak to an "outsider" like me. Just sucks I never got to see my uncles funeral as I wasnt allowed by the mormons and after he left an inheritance to all his immediate family members, the mormon church took the rest of his estate. I recall him fondly and miss him quite alot. Before he died he wanted me to join his church, I actually became a Christian and have been one ever since, so I can thank my uncle for helping me.
Great video clip I downloaded and posted on many leaders WhatsApp groups. I wish you did others for each if the myriads of cults. It was so exposing and simple to follow.
When your church is "the new kid in town", all the GOOD bat shit is already picked over.
Donald Wigglesworth 😄😄😄😄😄🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂
lol
Thirty five years ago, two missionaries came by my office. We had good conversations and they returned for fellowship and prayer each day for a week. I found them friendly , engaging and somewhat persuasive. On their last visit, one of the missionaries gave me a book entitled "Jesus Christ" by James Talmadge and said another pair of missionaries would visit the following week. In reading, the book, I came across the assertion that God the father was once a mortal human and that we all can work toward divinity like him. When the second set of missionaries came, I asked them about it. The lead missionary asked me where I heard about it. I told him the first couple had given me Mr. Talmadge's book. He then said, "You were not supposed to see that book until after you entered the church." I politely escorted them to the door.
Not only did God made people in his image (male + female!, notice Elohim is plural) but also as the Bible explains, people are God's children. Consider if there is a difference to say that humans have God's "genes" or that God has human "genes" - it is just one "genes", one race, a family. Children are supposed to become like their parents, and every loving parent wants them to. Every parent was once a child and also had parents. And there was no beginning to this and there will be never end of this. Just a different time and space. The book you read is one of the best to understand what Jesus actually did and who he is. "You were not supposed to see that book .." was maybe just a worry, to protect you from getting confused from too heavy info before understanding the basics. The knowledge comes little by little in time as the Spirit enlightens the mind. But might be difficult to digest meat before milk.
David Tron. Thank you for your reply. It reinforces my original reaction. Truth is truth and never needs to be hidden.
@6124369 LOL..... You superstitious Christians are some very silly campers Sis. :>)
essentially a poor way to phrase an appropriate answer. same reason its completely reasonable to join Judaism without knowing all the finite details of Kabbalah, or to be baptized into any orthodox christian church without reading a full analysis of the Nag Hammadi codeceis. Its deeper than is necessary, since all that was required in the early christian era for baptism was a pronouncement of faith in the Lord and a change of heart, before baptism
Now, they SHOULD have explained it to you, since you'd run across the information on your own, it would have been much better for you to at least understand what you read, but, cut the missionaries some slack. They have only three weeks of formal training (if they're english speaking) before heading out into the field with a "sink or swim" approach, guided only by a missionary a bit more seasoned than them, though the most seasoned missionary has a maximum of two years experience.
I'm not to sure this actually happened.🤔
I was once a member of the LDS church. I no longer believe in it. If LDS missionaries told people about some of the deeper doctrines and temple ordinances when preparing them for baptism, I think there would be a far lower success rate in getting new members.
When I was brought into the church they made sure to teach me about eternal families and the celestial plan right near the beginning of the course, but waited for weeks to tell me about tithing, only AFTER I’d committed to baptism. By that time you’re scared to back out because there’s always the fear that they’re right and that you won’t get to reunite with your wife and kids in the afterlife, so you agree to pay tithing and go through with your baptism. Its the old trick of convincing someone they can’t do without something and THEN sting them with all the catches. It’s the sort of trick you’d expect from any cheap salesman.
The strength of the LDS church and, indeed, most (if not all) religions lays in their ability to exploit the human fear of death, and the sorrow that comes about from losing loved ones. Once you can exploit that fear you can get people to do whatever you want them to.
The "church" today is a $300 billion dollar for-profit mega-corporation :(
Sorry that happened to u!! The whole cult is so fear mongering. I've heard from many ex lds how much anti depressants and anxiety meds they were on to try to cope and appear happy. The Bible says there are many false jesus's and unfortunately since this church does not line up with the Bible it is a false christ they teach of! I pray they come to know the Jesus of the Bible who is LORD over all, always was, always has been, and is coming again..
It is sad how the devil corrupts and creates these false churches to get people to zealously serve a false god and than leave so brainwashed and want nothing to do with another lie, so they don't seek out the true God
Crazy how simplistically accurate this video is.
Not totally accurate…
@@Diego-tk2pg judging by the rest of the comments of ex-Mormons around here, and your personal denial of the accuracy, it appears that the video is indeed accurate and you do not want the truth in it to be known.
@@natanmoses674 it’s really not accurate, yeah they got some things right but official church doctrine doesn’t match with some of this stuff
@@natanmoses674 listen I know your probably not going to pay heed to this comment from a random stranger you barely know but if you really want to know if it’s true or not read it for yourself don’t take my word for it take your word from it, take Gods word for it he’ll tell you if it’s true or not
They were kind and uplifting. I would welcome them in my home. As long as someone is kind and politie i will happily talk to them
Thank you for that comment. We love to be kind and uplift people. That is our job to make everyone feel welcome. God bless you .
Heathen
That's not because they're necessarily kind, uplifting people.
That is something they are told to do
(Its basic indoctrination 101)
Same way cults tell their members to behave towards outsiders.
In the mormon church, you're pressured into alway putting on a
"Good Show" to portray;
-yourself as super happy,
-your family as a good, happy, wholesome family
Because if you ever let anyone see that you have
the same sort of, perfectly normal...
personal/family problems,
as everyone else
. . .it reflects badly on the entire church.
-They pressure people to behave that way,
&make their members feel that;
anything less...
& they're behavior will make the entire church look bad.
(& you don't want to make god angry, by making his 1 true church look bad! Do you?)
Trust me
Plenty of mormon families,
that "look" like their family is as happy & wholesome as
"Leave it to Beaver"
. . .are just putting on a show
&
If you could see deeper into their personal & family lives,
they would look less like
Leave it to Beaver
& more like
1990's Rosanne
@@Alulim-Eridu thsts not true the elders told me their parents didn't keep their covenants and were drug addicts and all sorts of stuff
@@larrytinsley4247
Their parents aren't practicing mormons then.
They can talk badly about people who are not practicing mormons.
(Especially anyone who WAS a mormon,
but later later they GAVE UP the beliefs/church)
In that case, it's perfectly cool,
(&often encouraged)
to openly portray their NON-MORMON family members as terrible people.
It doesn't make the church look bad at all, if they tell you;
"We grew up with drug addicted parents, who never followed the teachings of the mormon church.
But now,
we're living happy lives as members of the church of later day saints"
-But you're absolutely correct.
I should have expressed myself more clearly!
They can openly "bad mouth" family members,
&/or aspects of their lives that were messy
. . .that are "outside" of the church.
-And of course that's just a rule of thumb.
If you get to be close friends with someone who is mormon,
(especially someone who is questioning their beliefs/church)
...they'll often open up to you more honestly about their life.
It's just a super common behavior that seems widespread among mormons.
They're taught to;
always portray the church "in the best light possible".
And to act as if everyone in the mormon church is super happy & satisfied.
(& NEVER make the church look bad!)
This nailed it. We are also EX-Mo's. Pray for them, they need the real Jesus. Stay informed and know that Mormonism is NOT Christianity. Stand up to them and show them the truth.
+Patricia Schurz what is your definition of a christian? I'm just curious
Well there are many different churches with many different people calling themselves "Christians". I have attended at least 5 different churches of different denominations. In my opinion, a Christian is a follower of THE Jesus Christ of the bible.. No other books. We are to be good bereans. We search the scriptures and do NOT ADD or CHANGE or REMOVE or TWIST the word of God. We are to follow the example that Christ has set. We must confess our sins before God, turn from sin and make Jesus Lord of our Lives. When we accept Jesus Christ we are a "new man". We have been forgiven and our names are written in the Lambs Book of Life. We Seek Jesus every day, we have power and authority in his name. We are not better than anyone. We are simply forgiven and saved. We are going to live with the Lord of Lords and King of Kings. When we do fall, we repent and ask forgiveness. We hate the sin, but not the sinner. We are to be a light in a dark world. We are not saved by any works, only the shed blood of the savior when we accept Jesus into our hearts. We know that we do not deserve the gift we have been given, but cherish it and help others to find the ONE TRUE JESUS CHRIST, SON OF THE LIVING FATHER.
Thank you for your opinion
No, we were not missionaries. I converted with my family many years ago. After a few years my entire family knew that we made a big mistake and left the church. I later moved to Ut and married a Jack-Mormon. His entire family was lds. We married in MY church and he became a born again Christian within the year. Also He served as asst pastor in an outreach church to bikers and street people. Weknow the truth and pray for the lost ones in the Mormon church.
Jason Shults:
Actually, NO. You have been mislead.There are so many differences between mormonism and Christianity that it would be impossible to list them all. If the bom contradicts, adds, changes or adds to the bible than it is considered 'A DIFFERENT scripture (book) - NOT Christianity. Joseph Smith would have been stoned had be been born in bibical times as he revealed himself to be "false prophet". He was terribly inaccurate and failed miserably as a "prophet". The bible clearly states in the N.T. Book of Revelation "I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book; if anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city which are described in this book." I think it is easy to see that the mormon gospel is NOT Christianity and their jesus is NOT the Jesus of the Holy Bible. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young are not in the celestial kingdom but awaiting the White Throne Judgement where they will be cast into Satans abode for etertnity. God Bless you, my friend, I will pray for you to see the light and come to the REAL Jesus of the bible.
btw, It is not snowing here, but Ido know how to recognize and shovel $-it
💯 Thank You 👍, from A 7Th Generation Ex Mormon I have been trying to Save Family Members and This Video is going to be In the Top of My Tool Box.
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Tells so much in such an excellent little cartoon video. Very well done! Thank you!
Anyone who could be fooled, deceived, and brainwashed by such obviously bigoted religious persecution must have already had a large cancerous lump of prejudice in their heart.
@@harryabelpotter9630 Everyone has higher morals than your heavenly father who was once a man.
Remember, the United States government passed a law to stop Mormons from being so immoral.
Edmunds-Tucker Act
1887
The United States Congress passes the Edmunds-Tucker Act which permits the government to seize assets and disincorporate the LDS church for continuing to practice polygamy against the law. The bill is enacted into law March 3.
1876
Doctrine and Covenants: Section 101 removed - Section 132 inserted
After 41 years as part of the LDS canon, Section 101 condemning polygamy is removed from the Doctrine and Covenants. Section 132 requiring polygamy for exaltation is canonized. Section 132 remains part of the canon today.
I am going to hell because I deny polygamy.
The Lord has said, that those who reject this principle reject their salvation, they shall be damned, saith the Lord; those to whom I reveal this law and they do not receive it, shall be damned. [p.224]
I want to prophesy that all men and women who oppose the revelation which God has given in relation to polygamy will find themselves in darkness; the Spirit of God will withdraw from them from the very moment of their opposition to that principle, until they will finally go down to hell and be damned, if they do not repent. [p.225]
Orson Pratt - Mormon apostle
Journal of Discourses 17:224-225
I am glad Mormonism is just pretend.
to: Faye Lewis ... The Athanasian Creed says: our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and Man; God of the Substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and Man of the substance of His mother, born in the world; Perfect God and perfect Man, of a reasonable soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father as touching His Godhead, and inferior to the Father as touching His manhood;
PEACE
to: Faye Lewis ...
Q: Who Gave David His Master’s Wives
A: please read … 2 SAMUEL 12.8
I gave your master’s house to you, and your master’s wives into your arms. I gave you all Israel and Judah. And if all this had been too little, I would have given you even more.
and
Martin Luther is the father of the Reformation and the father of all Protestant denominations. Luther said that polygamy is biblical.
PEACE
TO: Faye Lewis
RE: personal opinion
PROMOTE RELIGIOUS TOLERANCE
You have misinterpreted and misrepresented the beliefs of my church.
If you have issues I suggest:
Google: Chat with a Mormon
Or, to speak to the Church missionaries,
Please call: 1-888-537-6600
Or, Google: www dot fairmormon dot org
It is a non-profit organization dedicated to providing well-documented answers to criticisms of Church doctrine, belief and practice
My son went to church with one of his Mormon friends and came back to us asking what the difference was and we didn't quite have an answer for him. my husband and I did some research and we really didn't find anything majorly wrong until I saw your video. I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart for creating this video if it's all true.
Gigi Moyse 2 John 1 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Gigi Moyse Hi Gigi; I just came home from the baptism of a young man who met the Mormon missionaries at his door just five weeks ago. He really appreciated what they shared with him about the Savior, Jesus Christ, about the atonement that He offered to us, and about the restoration that has been accomplished at His direction. During the baptismal service there were four prayers, each of which were given in the name of Jesus Christ, five testimonies born each referencing their Savior Jesus Christ and how grateful they each were to Him, and two hymns, each of which referenced the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ.
We realize in our faith that Jesus Christ and God the Father whom He told us to pray to are two individual beings each united in purpose and in doctrine. Jesus prayed to God His Father that we all might become one - just as they are, so that is a bit of difference in how we look to Jesus. He is every bit our savior and redeemer. I love Him with all of my heart and soul.
If you are serious about wanting to understand how Mormons view Jesus Christ, I invite you to look here. jesuschrist.lds.org/SonOfGod?lang=eng
I have been a member of this extraordinary faith all of my life and it has been a great blessing to raise my family in this faith. May the spirit of our Lord be ever with you.
tyndale25 did you do proxy baptisms for the dead today also?
All of this is true, I'm an ex mormon, you will find a lot of info on the internet about it.
Gigi Moyse If you really want to know the difference, then you must talk to us, as well as watch these anti-Mormon videos. Getting both sides is only the fair thing to do.
Unless, of course, that you're scared. Many people are scared that they might find truth where they don't want to find it.
Ok I’m Mormon and have been every since I was born and this video is 100% accurate a while ago I quit going to church (I’m 14) and I was so happy and living my best life finally being able to hang out with my friends on Sunday, being able to drink coffee, and being able to stay up late and not having to wake up and think abt serving the church all the time. But soon as I quit about 1 month later the missionaries and bishopric would always be showing up at my house and being so nice and be like “we all love and miss you so much” and my mom tried her hardest to get me back to church and I finally gave up with ignoring everyone from church, always having my mom come in my room and say prayers, and so much dumb stuff. Atm I’m back at church, but not following any of their requirements lol, just can’t wait till I’m 18 so I can move out... fake it to u make it
Jesus said, "Follow Me."
Camryn Fry... Jesus said "I am the way the truth and the life....
not Joseph....
Jesus said "I am the door...knock and the door shall be open unto you"
Jesus said "the sheep cannot hear a stranger...my sheep hear my voice and I call them out by name and they follow me."
and Jesus has also warned all by saying " beware for many false prophets and false Christs shall arise and shall deceive many" Matthew 24:24
they (false prophets and the like) shall even be able to shew many marvelous signs and wonders such that if it were possible could even deceive the elect.
how be it not everyone has listened to what Jesus said here about such false prophet who come using his name in vain. which is all too sad to tell of it. such deceivers come with pretending, lying, with manipulating the simple minded.
What are you doing now
Bro got kidnapped
@@SB-dc5on he was sacrificed
I literally ran away when The very first movement they said "we believe in bible but we also believe Bible Is secondary and our Mormonism book is more important than bible". Bible is true living word of GOD. There is no other book more important than bible .
I mean... which part of the bible? It contradicts itself multiple times
The freemason symbols and tokens were a perfect touch
Latter-day Saints Are Not Freemasons …
In attempting to suggest that temple rituals were copied from the Freemasons nothing could be further from the truth; although, at the time of Joseph Smith, the prophet encouraged all the members of the church to join the Masons because it was felt that belonging to the Masons would afford a certain amount of acceptance and protection.
It is true that the Masonic rites have a lot in common with ours; nevertheless, no matter how many points of contact one may detect between them, there is a world of difference between temple ceremonies and Freemasonry. There are many symbols and gestures that are alike; and yet, the Masons were not the first to use these forms of symbolism.
For example: "Handclasps" can be found in ancient religious art and literature. This topic is expanded by David Calabro in his book “The Divine Handclasp in the Hebrew Bible”. He starts out with-- descriptions of and an analysis of ritual handclasps in the Old Testament and in Near Eastern Iconography with examples from Egyptian, Hittite and Phoenician art. Then he explores possible meanings of the gesture, linking it also to the ritual raising the hand as gestures accompanying oaths and covenants.
Of course all this means that the Latter-day Saints did not get their ceremonies from the Masons because, all of these things were used historically long before the existence of the Freemasons.
Today, some speculate that these similarities have a common ancestor or original source. In the meantime, regardless of source, the Saints use symbolism for their unique purposes which are entirely different from the Masons and the Masons use the same symbols for their unique and entirely different purposes. In other words, the similarities are on the outside only. PEACE
Harry Abel Potter I disagree. The similarities are deep and both are bound in Satan worship. Easily proven by asking you a simple question, what is love?
@@Lordslothable
God is love !
Thanks for asking.
Lordslothable - For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. God's love is evidenced in Him sending His Son to atone for our sins. Also read 1Nephi chapter 8 and chapter 11... same message.
TO: @@Lordslothable
Sorry I did not respond to your comment sooner; I did not receive your reply under my notification bell.
FYI
Philosophers and theology often define according to His characteristics. Sorry if you find this convention not to your liking.
Here's the definition from The Encyclopedia of Mormonism. ...
God
Author: Yarn, David H.
Latter-day Saints declare, "We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost" (A of F 1). Joseph Smith offered the following clarification: "The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's; the Son also; but the Holy Ghost has not a body of flesh and bones, but is a personage of Spirit" (D&C 130:22; see God the Father; Holy Ghost; Jehovah, Jesus Christ).
The Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are three separate and distinct beings who constitute one Godhead. Generally speaking, the Father is the Creator, the Son is the Redeemer, and the Holy Ghost is the Comforter and Testifier (cf. MFP 5:26-34; TPJS, p. 190). Many scriptural passages illustrate the distinct character of the members of the Godhead. For example, at the baptism of Jesus, while he was in the water, the Father's voice was heard from heaven, and the Holy Ghost descended "like a dove" and rested upon the Son (Matt. 3:13-17; see Jesus Christ: Baptism of Jesus Christ). All three persons were manifested separately and simultaneously. Also, Jesus said, "My Father is greater than I" (John 14:28), and in another place declared, "The Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son" (John 5:22). Further, Jesus pointed to the Father and himself as two separate witnesses of the divinity of his work (John 5:32-37;8:12-18). On the Mount of Transfiguration the heavenly Father identified the mortal Jesus to Peter, James, and John as "my beloved Son" (Matt. 17:5). Moreover, the Son often prayed to his Father. In Gethsemane he prayed to the Father while in deep anguish (Mark 14:32-39; cf. Luke 22:40-46; D&C 19:16-19), and on the cross he cried out to the Father, "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" (Matt. 27:46; Mark 15:34; cf. Ps. 22:1). All of these passages clearly show that the Father is a being distinct from the Son. Although they are one in mind and purpose, they are two separate individuals and bear testimony of one another (cf. 3 Ne. 11:7-11).
The way in which the Godhead is one is illustrated by Jesus' prayer that his disciples would be one, even as he and the Father are one (John 17:21-22; cf. 3 Ne. 11:27, 32-36;28:10-11). Here he was praying for his disciples' unity of mind, purpose, and testimony, not for the merger of their identities into a single being. He prayed that they would be one in desire, purpose, and objective, exactly as he and his Father are (TPJS, p. 372; see Unity).
The Father, as God, is omnipotent, omniscient, and, through his spirit, omnipresent (see Light of Christ). He is merciful and gracious, slow to anger, abundant in goodness. His course is one eternal round. He is a God of truth and no respecter of persons. He personifies love.
Though Latter-day Saints extensively use the scriptures to learn about God, their fundamental knowledge concerning him is based upon the Prophet Joseph Smith's first vision, the Prophet's subsequent revelatory experiences, and individual personal revelation. While mankind may reason or speculate concerning the existence of God, and his nature, the principal way by which they can know about God is dependent upon his revealing himself to them (see Testimony of Jesus Christ).
Before A.D. 325, the date of the first Christian ecumenical council at Nicaea, the nature of God was debated by philosophers and people of faith. Since then, the concept of God has been the subject of ecumenical councils, philosophical discussions, and creeds. None of these is the source of the LDS understanding of God. To be sure, many classical arguments for the existence of God have been advanced, including the ontological arguments of Anselm, the five "proofs" of St. Thomas Aquinas, the teleological argument of Descartes, the ethical argument of Leibniz, and the postulates of practical reason of Kant. As impressive as any of these might be as achievements of the human intellect, none of them is the source of faith in God for Latter-day Saints, whose faith is based upon personal testimony grounded in personal experience (see Epistemology; Faith in Jesus Christ; Reason and Revelation).
The last chapter of the Book of Mormon records this promise: "And when ye shall receive these things [of God], I would exhort you that ye would ask God, the Eternal Father, in the name of Christ, if these things are not true; and if ye shall ask with a sincere heart, with real intent, having faith in Christ, he will manifest the truth of it unto you, by the power of the Holy Ghost. And by the power of the Holy Ghost ye may know the truth of all things" (Moro. 10:4-5). The personal witness that one receives in answer to prayer is called a testimony. Latter-day Saints teach that through this source a person can receive a sure witness that God lives, a confirmation regarding the various principles that the scriptures teach, and clarification where it is needed.
Belief in God, or a measure of faith in him, is essential to finding the reality of his existence. Inasmuch as God exists, and human beings are his children, it is important for men and women to know these facts because such knowledge is a component of eternal life (John 17:3). Individuals need to know that they are themselves eternal beings, that they are dependent upon God for their earthly existence (cf. Mosiah 2:21), and that their future condition depends on how they relate to God and keep his commandments (see Commandments; Obedience).
God loves his children and has provided the means for them to realize their divine potential (see Godhood). God has given humankind the program for his children as a whole (see Plan of Salvation, Plan of Redemption), and through the gift of the Holy Ghost he gives special guidance to individuals as they seek it (see Inspiration). God revealed his will to prophets in ancient times and to apostles in the meridian of time, and he continues to reveal himself to living prophets and apostles in the latter days.
Learning of God's existence creates the desire to know him, and know what he would have one do or be. As one's faith and knowledge of God increase, one desires more and more to keep God's commandments and feel close to him (see Faith in Jesus Christ). The Prophet Joseph Smith taught that knowing the true character of God forms the basis for the faith that leads to salvation (Lectures on Faith 4:1; see Lectures on Faith). Jesus promised that the Comforter, or Holy Ghost, would be sent to one who keeps God's commandments (John 14:26). The ideal is to enjoy that influence continuously.
The Prophet Joseph Smith said, "It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us: yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did" (TPJS, pp. 345-46). Further, "God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible,-I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form-like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another" (TPJS, p. 345).
Thus, all humans must learn from God who they are, where they came from, why they are on earth, where they are going, and what their eternal potential is, by studying the scriptures and receiving personal revelation. All things center in God.
Abel
God is my friend.
Wingardium Leviosa !
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Most of these teachings are spot on accurate you have to go deep into history because it won't be revealed until your deep into it I was Mormon now born again and out of it thank you JESUS.🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
I used to wonder if Joseph Smith was sincere and delusional or a genius conman. Then I read the first few chapters of the Book of Mormon and could plainly see he wasn't a genius, but he was definitely a conman.
Anytime I hear Joseph Smith I hear dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb from South Park.
He plagiarized a guy named Anso Cametopass ! Because every verse begins wit his name " and so it came to pass" Anso Cametopass !
@Michael Shultz
That was actually kind of funny. You made me laugh.
the book of mormon is not the Bible, so you guys aren't Christians.
Ted Ehioghae
Mormons study the King James version of the Bible (this is the one used by most Christian churches). They believe in and worship Jesus Christ as the savior and redeemer. They believe that Jesus suffered for the sins of man and died and was resurrected for us. They believe that when you die, if you are righteous and believe in him and follow his teachings and his commandments and are baptized in his name, that you will one day be able to live with him in heaven. In what way are Mormons not Christian?
Note: I am an Atheist that use to be Mormon. When I was active in the church, I totally considered myself to be Christian.
The whole eternal marriage thing is what peaked my interest. I was a hopeless romantic and didn't realize just how legalistic it really was.
Christians believe that families and friends are together in heaven with God. We just don't emphasize it. According to Jesus, when we die, we are no longer married. That is something from earth. We serve a different purpose in heaven, but that doesn't mean that we don't take the love with us.
So, miss out on it on earth because of something entirely outside of my control? It's pretty cruel to dangle that in front of someone's face and then snatch it away at the last second. It's like if I said "Hey, do you want some ice cream?" And then, as you reach out to take it, I throw it on the ground. Say I follow all this stuff about no sex before marriage and ai die before that happens. I'm basically punished for following the rules.
May be hard to believe but this cartoon is 100% accurate, very well done
Nice video. I've had conversations with them and some of that stuff has come out. They sound just like Jehovah's Witnesses where everyone else is "false religion" and God chose only their group to spread "the truth" and set things straight.
NO ONE has a perfect understanding of scripture...so EVERYONE has one or more beliefs that are wrong. But if you're taught by the Holy Spirit, you are on a path of learning truth that requires you to leave behind previous held false beliefs and to follow Jesus, not men. It casts serious doubt when someone claims to be directed by holy spirit and yet follows men. The Holy Spirit teaches you to follow Christ and that he's the only one you need as pastor (shepherd).
I am a member of the LDS church, and while I will stand as an advocate for my church and all that we believe, I would never mock or devalue anybody else's beliefs.
I'm not going to reject what is said in this video, because from my knowledge ( which could possibly be flawed) it was completely true. However, my entire life I have heard these words said in this video and felt absolute peace and enlightenment, but watching this video I felt at complete unease. However, you could take anything; from Darwin's theory of Evolution ( which I strongly believe in along with the Bible and Book of Mormon) to the law of gravity and piece it apart just right, act it out with disturbing animation and weird voices, you can make anything sound completely insane.
What is the purpose in this video anyways? Are they trying to convert Mormons to Christianity, or were these ex Mormons just so wronged by this church they have to do everything they can to tear it apart? This is the very church that has supplied 100% of my family of 7 kids and single mother groceries for over 7 years, payed bills and house payments when she wasn't able to, given us Christmas twice in a row and nurtured us out of poverty. Through its teachings and my own personal prayer I have developed an absolutely unbreakable bond and personal relationship with my Heavenly Father and he has never failed to answer every prayer, including my question on whether my church was true. His church is the one thing keeping me alive. This "cult" is the one thing in my life that has ever given me peace. How dare anyone mock someone else's happiness? It doesn't matter what we as individuals believe. In a sense, aren't the majority of religions the same? Whether you believe in the Bible or Book of Mormon literally, or take them metaphorically, they both analyze various events and in our lives. Whether we believe in heaven or hell, we all have experienced the dark, pain, and punishment, and we've also experienced light, pleasure, peace, love, and reward. We're all simply humans working towards something better, whether that's salvation and eternal life, nirvana, inner peace, or simple fulfillment, they're all synnonyms of happiness. If you are basing your judgment of the Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints on this video, or any of these hundreds of hateful videos I've found on TH-cam bashing it, I beg you to look elsewhere. Go to lds.org or Mormon.org and read there a little bit. Read the conference talks from our prophets and apostles and be open minded. I promise no one is going to brainwash you, despite what some will say ( I was laughing my head off reading that in the comments.)
Bottom line, we all just simply need to love. Let's learn to simply love and accept each other unconditionally. Whether or not Christ lived, ( though I'm betting my life he did) we all could learn to mimic his love and kindness. Please, no more videos bashing other's beliefs.
+Mikayli Kaighn I agree, mocking is wrong. But if lots of people believed the earth is flat, I would be compelled to tell them that the earth is in fact round, in spite of them feeling very peaceful believing the earth to be flat. So when someone tells me there are millions of gods and millions of other earths out there, I do feel compelled to tell them that in fact, there is one God only, that created and rules the whole universe...
+Helen E Then explain to me why we're even here on earth. If we already lived with God in heaven, what's the point in him sending us to earth only to have us die to come back to him? If Heavenly Father loved us, why would he send us down to earth, have us live this crazy life, watch Satan ward us off one by one like cattle, only to have 50% of us ( if not less) return to him? Why would my father put me through all this pain and agony I've suffered on earth, only to risk losing me, and in the end have me return to him empty handed? You can't tell me that heaven is all I have to look forward to, as glorious as it sounds, because god sent his only begotten son Jesus Christ to die and atone for every single one of my sins and every single of yours, and if he did that only to bring me back to heaven, what was the point in leaving to earth and sinning in the first place? Please tell me you see how this doesn't add up! Or am I missing something???
What I know, is that my heavenly father is brilliant and powerful enough to offer me a better plan, the plan of salvation. I know that he had to send me to earth to gain a physical body so that for the first time my spirit could finally experience the tangible world, how it felt to touch the place I walked, to caress another's face, smell the sent of a rose, and catch every ounce if beautiful pigmentation in the world around us with our eyes. He also gifted us with some of his divine power, the power of creation so that as Eve bit into the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, she was given the ability to create man ( or give birth to them). I personally think this is what has also gifted man with the passion to build civilizations, lofty urban cities, and all our magnificent inventions that differentiate us from all other species on earth. And because of Christ's atonement, when we die, we are resurrected with perfected, tangible bodies once more, and we gain immortal life, something humanity lost at the fall of Adam. We take these bodies with us wherever we go in the after life, whether its The Celestial kingdom, teresterial ( that's most likely not how its spelled 😂) kingdom, or telestial kingdom, or even outer darkness. Immortality, however is one God's first goal. His second was eternal life. Immortality is simply living forever, but eternal life is reaching the highest level ( the celestial kingdom) where you can live happily and peacefully with your family forever, and yes, if we are incredibly righteous and follow our heavenly Father's ever commandment we believe we can become gods too. I understand how people can hear this and classify it as a mere boast of pride to try and cheat or amount to god, but one could say the same as the death of Christ, that we ignorantly try to justify our sins by saying they'll all be accounted for by someone else. I'll admit though, it does sound to good to be true. But why can't it? I find beauty knowing my Father in Heaven understands my struggles as a mortal, because he once was one. That he too once had his own loving father in heaven to guide him. I don't think it discredits him at all! Instead, I think it glorifies him, because he worked and struggled to reach absolute perfection and divinity. I appreciate you reading my comment and giving me something to read and think about. Of course a huge part of me wishes you, or at least someone will read this and see the beauty in Mormonism. No I'm not trying to convert you or bully you out of your beliefs, I hope this reply doesn't come across that way, and sorry I basically turned it into a novel. I hope it at least made a little sense, and you have at least a little better understanding to why we believe what we do.
Mikayli Kaighn Ok... thank you for writing such a lengthy reply.. But I'm not sure if I get your point.. Can you try again, (in less words) pls? And then I'll reply. :)
+Helen E Hahaha I get a little carried away sometimes, sorry. I guess I'm trying to ask what you believe we are on earth for, and what exactly you believe happens when you die. You are Christian.... right?
+Mikayli Kaighn the Bible tells us to hate the false way not love it
That was amazing!!! Thank for sharing
Thank you for making this, Mason.
Waaaaooow... Is all of this what they actually believe?! I've known of some of this but my goodness some of this is beyond insane.
oh boy huh?....well you have not seen anything yet....here is another cartoon video that you might like to see as well about what the Mormons believe and teach. proven by documentation as being taught from their LDS leaders all including Joseph Smith jr. sermons and books.
th-cam.com/video/n3BqLZ8UoZk/w-d-xo.html
just in case.
Church is only for two hours now.
@@vantablack7939 True. The church focuses on families.
@@vantablack7939 no this is really what mormons believe. Read the gospel topics essays on the churched website or the CES letter. You say they make it sound all crazy here. It IS crazy. You just have never heard your beliefs spelled out in this way. All of this is true...
Um, actually yes
I got stalked by church members after leaving. That stalking usually involved baked goods lol they knew my weakness. But I resisted their efforts and stayed away despite the deliciousness.
I like this comment
I was stalked by "Moron" neighbors, but they never gave me baked goods. A freshly baked loaf of banana bread or pie would have been greatly appreciated. I was raised with the custom offer going to visit. empty handed.
Tell them you feel hapier thinking about the Church while eating home made cake. You get a feeling lol with boston cream filling
Jajaja i know what you're talking about... We'll always be there cooking something good for you! ;)
Stalking only happens if you refuse to confront them.
I was born and raised Mormon. My whole family is Mormon. I was always a bit of a black sheep, and I am so thankful because as I got older and started to seek the truth, I was able to look through nonbias' eyes. I am now a born-again Christian. But sadly, my family, even with facts when talking to them they view it as being prosecuted, and they always turn a blind eye to many important facts. A lot of them have said they don't agree with some of it. And I don't understand that. You ether believe it or you dont. And as for me, the truth was more important because I personally don't want to live a lie. Please pray for my family that they wake up to the truth 🙏 ✝️ ❤ Thos video is very good!
So glad you come to know the real Jesus that can forgive and save us from our sins. I have other ex-Mormons who are born-again Christian and have the same experiences with their Mormon families, so sad.
So you replaced one belief system for another one that’s similar?
To have forgiveness of sin and God’s gift of eternal life in the presence of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, is through faith and trust in Jesus Christ of the Bible only and not through any church or ritual or rules, that includes the LDS Church, Jehovah’s Witnesses Church (Kingdom Hall), Catholic Church, Lutheran Church, Protestant Church, Methodist Church, The Pentecostal Church, Baptist Churches, Russian Orthodox Church, Easter Orthodox, Jewish synagog or temple, Islam, etc. Jesus said, “Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.
“For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
“For the wages of sin is death; but THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST our Lord” (Romans 6:23)
“For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is *the gift of God:* Not of works, lest any man should boast.” (Ephesians 2: 8-9)
Jesus said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:3)
Jesus said, “…know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)
Joseph Smith taught his followers, "GOD HIMSELF WAS ONCE AS WE ARE NOW, AND IS AN EXALTED MAN, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens. That is the great secret. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity, I will refute that idea, and will take away and do away the veil, so that you may see It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the character of God.. AND THAT HE WAS ONCE A MAN LIKE US; yea, that God himself the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth the same as Jesus Christ himself did; ... to know the only wise and true God; and YOU HAVE GOT TO LEARN HOW TO BE GODS YOURSELVES, and priests to God, THE SAME AS ALL GODS HAVE DONE BEFORE YOU.”
Smith announced this brand new teaching at a funeral for Elder King Follett who accidentally fell into a well and was killed. The funeral took place during the time of General Conference, Sunday, Nauvoo, Illinois, April 7 1844, 14 years after Smith had written the Book of Mormon.
Also at this time, Smith was campaigning to become President of the United States.
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The above quote from Joseph Smith is published in the following official LDS publications;
Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pages 345-346, compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith, 10th prophet of LDS;
History of the Church, Vol. 6 (1843-1844) pages 302-17;
Achieving a Celestial Marriage, page 129, Published by: Church of Jesus Christ of Larter-day Saints
My Kingdom Shall Roll Forth, Pub. 1979, page 7, Published by: Church of Jesus Christ of Larter-day Saints
This is a partial list of Mormon publication where this popular quote is cited.
Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6 of 26, pages 3-4.
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This obviously is not referring to the God of the Bible and Christians, who was, is and will always be the Lord God Almighty, was never a man on another earth that became a Mormon polygamist exalted man god.
*The Mormon Church and their temples are not needed.* Unless you feel like paying them 10% of your total income so you may participate in their temple rituals, which include, Masonic type handshakes, secret passwords, and wearing underwear with sewn in Masonic symbols. All so you may PRETEND that someday you might, perhaps, maybe, possibly become a Mormon polygamist exalted man god or a goddess wife to your Mormon polygamist exalted man god husband.
To have forgiveness of sin and God’s gift of eternal life in the presence of God, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, is through repentance, faith and trust in real Jesus Christ of the Bible only and not through any church.
As it is written, “For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;” (Romans 3:23)
“For the wages of sin is death; but the *GIFT OF GOD* IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD.” (Romans 6:23)
Jesus said, “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.” (John 17:3)
Jesus said, “…know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.” (John 8:32)
Do Not let the Mormon Church make merchandise of you with their feign words
"special holy underwear" 🤣🤣 I'm dead
I've met a lot of Mormon "elders" and I've enjoyed chatting with them. The title "elder" amuses me as they're just kids. They're often around, spreading "the word" here in France but they get very few converts. They're polite and friendly so we don't mind talking to be them. Actually, we find them hilarious !
Although they don't say some or the things here,
what they do say is too far fetched to be considered.
I still like to chat with them. Unlike Jéhovah's Witnesses they accept m'y non- belief and aren't too persistant.
That’s horse manure! They’re very persistent! They kept coming to my friend’s door and no matter how many times he told them to leave they kept coming back!
LSD > LDS
Say "Latter Saints Day" around them enough times and see if they actually write the initials down in that order. :'D
I would rather have the LSD. lol
Skeleton Signs Lol. Their eyes look a bit dialated.
We are not allowed to do drugs
Beastgamer 1025 Could have fooled me, but I do not believe talking that bad about drugs in and of themselves.
Wow, I never knew this as a Mormon. Signs and passwords to get in the gates of heaven?!
@@raidthefridge7837 I’ve never gone through the endowment ceremony. I only did baptism for the dead. I became inactive when I was 22, now 39.
You are not lost. Greater mysteries will be unfolded to those who diligently seek it
You honestly summed up everything. I can't thank you enough for this. I say this as an ex member.
Thank you, and if you have time or feel so inclined, I would be interested to know what began your questioning and what was the final straw that broke your shelf after beginning to question?
We Shall Be Like Him
Latter-day Saints do not believe that we will become gods in the same sense that God is God.
God is God and will always be God.
The Church of Jesus Christ teaches that
we will worship our Heavenly Father as God
throughout all eternity.
We believe that
we can become
Joint-heirs with Christ-
in other words,
we can become Christ-like.
2 Beloved,
we are God's children now,
and what we will be
has not yet appeared;
but we know that
when he appears
WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM,
because we shall see him as he is.”
(1 John 3.2)
peace
Harry Abel Potter "Prophet" Joseph Fielding Smith Jr., Doctrines of Salvation, Vol.2, p.39:
"SONS OF GOD BECOME GODS. If the faithful, who keep the commandments of the Father, are his sons, then they are heirs of the kingdom and shall receive of the fulness of the Father's glory, even until they become like the Father. . . And if they receive his fulness and his glory, and if "all things are theirs, whether life or death, or things present, or things to come, all are theirs," how can they receive these blessings and not become gods? They cannot." No one believes you Harry, I happen to know you don't even believe yourself lying so flagrantly. You know your doctrine well, and you also know you are being misleading about it. You are trying to save your church embarrassment, but you are embarrassing yourself.
to: @@masonthexmormon505
re: We Shall Be Like Him
Latter-day Saints do not believe that we will become gods in the same sense that God is God. God is God and will always be God. The Church of Jesus Christ teaches that we will worship our Heavenly Father as God throughout all eternity. We believe that we can become Joint-heirs with Christ- in other words, we can become Christ-like.
2 Beloved,
we are God's children now,
and what we will be
has not yet appeared;
but we know that
when he appears
WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM,
because we shall see him
as he is.”
(1 John 3.2)
cya
@@harryabelpotter9630 " Latter-day Saints do not believe that we will become gods in the same sense that God is God." You are either a liar, poorly informed, or the LDS are changing the doctrine.
"“As man now is, God once was: “As God now is, man may be.” It's funny to Mormons desperately trying to run away from their doctrine on eternal progression. "Our travel in this path of exaltation will bring to us the fullness of our Lord Jesus Christ, to stand in the presence of our Father, to receive of His fullness, to have the pleasure of increasing in our posterity worlds without end"
www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/teachings-of-presidents-of-the-church-lorenzo-snow/chapter-5-the-grand-destiny-of-the-faithful?lang=eng
The Mormons teach that faithful earthly men will be able to create and populate new worlds as gods. "They are to become like Him; they will see Him as He is; they will behold His face and reign with Him in His glory, becoming like unto Him in EVERY particular."
Mormons expand 1 John 3:2 through bullshit doctrine like this published in church manuals for which Harry Abel has no excuse to claim as ignorance.
God says in the BIBLE,
There is only one God and I am he no God's before or after me.
I think this says it all.
So why would so many angels rebel? What could they lack for?
@@lynnrogers5996 oh are you ever brainwashed, read the BIBLE in Isaiah 43:11 thru 12. No God's before or after me there is only 1 God in the universe, if mormans new the BIBLE as well as they know the book of morman and the d&c they would leave the church.
Keith Bjelland I know both equally and that's why I'm an agnostic atheist
That’s right. The Bible is true. So what if you can’t justify the various hominids living and coexisting, or that anyone with Northern Europe ancestry has Neanderthal dna. Or how you can make sense of god having sex with Mary and telling Joseph it was cool. Unless you believe god came down as a magic spirit and somehow made Mary pregnant. Sure Mormons believe stuff I find crazy, but not much crazier than traditional Christians
Well said, but this is not the whole Gospel.
This was truly fun to watch. :)
We got 'em here in Japan but mainly in the countryside. JWs are also here and usually out by the train station every week with their literature, and once in a while some Buddhist cult comes knocking on my door here in Tokyo. Nuttiness transcends culture.
Jehovah's witnesses are pedophiles
Buddhists are good people!
To: Tsnore
Religious Bigotry Is Unacceptable
What kind of Christian are you !!! … are you a Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant … or … are you an atheist?
2:56 that masonic sign killed me haha
Is The Star Trek Live Long and Prosper Sign In The Temple
Today i found out the iconic “live long and prosper” Star Trek hand gesture was originally a Jewish sign from long before the Masons.
The hand gesture itself is a slight modification of the Hebrew gesture forming the letter “Shin”, which represents the name “Shaddai” meaning “Almighty” (God). This gesture is still used today by orthodox Jews of the Kohanim, which are priests descended from Ahron by the patrilineal line. These Kohanim form a subset of the descendants of the priestly Levite tribe.
The Kohanim use the Shin gesture during a blessing ceremony, the nesiat kapayim or the “Priestly Blessing”, that accompanies the prayer service. The actual Jewish blessing is done with both hands, not just one, extended outward. In this gesture, the arms are then held at a roughly 45 degree angle, level with the shoulders, as opposed to the completely vertical salute fashion in the “live long in prosper” version of the gesture.
The hand gesture itself wasn’t the only part that was borrowed from Jewish tradition. The “live long and prosper” and the lesser known Vulcan traditional response of “peace and long life” was based on the Jewish “Shalom Aleichem” (peace be upon you) and the traditional reply of “Aleichem Shalom” (upon you be peace).
Yours truly,
PEACE
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TO: @Ralph Wiggam
RE: Handclasps
Latter-day Saints Are Not Freemasons …
In attempting to suggest that temple rituals were copied from the Freemasons nothing could be further from the truth; although, at the time of Joseph Smith, the prophet encouraged all the members of the church to join the Masons because it was felt that belonging to the Masons would afford a certain amount of acceptance and protection.
It is true that the Masonic rites have a lot in common with ours; nevertheless, no matter how many points of contact one may detect between them, there is a world of difference between temple ceremonies and Freemasonry. There are many symbols and gestures that are alike; and yet, the Masons were not the first to use these forms of symbolism.
For example: "Handclasps" can be found in ancient religious art and literature. This topic is expanded by David Calabro in his book “The Divine Handclasp in the Hebrew Bible”. He starts out with-- descriptions of and an analysis of ritual handclasps in the Old Testament and in Near Eastern Iconography with examples from Egyptian, Hittite and Phoenician art. Then he explores possible meanings of the gesture, linking it also to the ritual raising the hand as gestures accompanying oaths and covenants.
Of course all this means that the Latter-day Saints did not get their ceremonies from the Masons because, all of these things were used historically long before the existence of the Freemasons.
Today, some speculate that these similarities have a common ancestor or original source. In the meantime, regardless of source, the Saints use symbolism for their unique purposes which are entirely different from the Masons and the Masons use the same symbols for their unique and entirely different purposes. In other words, the similarities are on the outside only.
PEACE
Just slightly less crazy than Scientology, but not by much.
Its scary how similar they are
So... umm I only have a vague idea of what Scientology is...it’s not practised or even all that well known where I’m from...do you think you could give me an overview of what it’s about?
Fosho
@@inferics3602 id just suggest looking it up, its insane
Mao Zedong I just did!! I was more than a little shocked 😮
You forgot to tell that their "Jesus" and Satan (Lucifer) were spirit brothers..
There's a part 2 to this...
As a previous very faithful Mormon (sealed, etc), I can say this very accurately reflects the believed doctrine. It’s good to be blunt instead of leading people on and then over time as they’re ready to receive further light and knowledge, slowly teach them what the true beliefs actually are
To: @Joyeuse Robinson ... Re: N.O.M., Name Only Mormon ... You may have lived a faithful life as a Latter-day Saint but you were not a TBT&T Mormon = a True Blue Through and Through Latter-day Saint ~ because, you did not have a true and abiding testimony of the Church ~ and the proof is that you do not abide in the Church ~ you were a N.O.M. ... You should also be aware that a temple sealing is only a ceremony until it is ratified by the Holy Spirit. So ... NO ... your temple marriage has not been sealed.
Going to the temple is analogous to first communion in as much as Mormons basically renew their baptism by formalized covenants to keep the commandments, remain chaste, and to serve god. There is nothing new that is learned in the temple except for some signs and symbols which represent concepts that are taught before you are baptized. It is not the symbolism but it is your commitment to Jesus Christ that is totally significant and that cannot be expressed, duplicated, seen, or taught in a video. The type of commitment found in the temple can only be found in those who give all their heart, might, mind, and soul to the Lord~ and that’s what the temple is all about.
Here's some more doctrine that you didn't understand.
We Shall Be Like Him
Latter-day Saints do not believe that we will become gods in the same sense that God is God. God is God and will always be God. The Church of Jesus Christ teaches that we will worship our Heavenly Father as God throughout all eternity. We believe that we can become Joint-heirs with Christ- in other words, we can become Christ-like.
2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM, because we shall see him as he is.” (1 John 3.2)
IMNSHO
In my opinion, the fact that you were at one time a member of the Church does not make you a reliable source to speak to the truth claims of the Church.
In my opinion,
in regards to Church history, doctrine, and practices, you are a total illiterate
Therefore,
You should stop trash-talking my church.
Other than that ~
We wish you well.
SALUTATIONS
Sirius Black said,
"We've all got both light and dark inside us. What matters is the part we choose to act on. That's who we really are." - Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
You’ve been potterized,
by Harry Abel Potter,
a very able potter.
Expecto Patronum !
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If you don't mind me asking,
What kind of Christian are you now ... or ... are you an atheist?
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@@harryabelpotter9630 what the hell kind of word salad is this shit?
@@harryabelpotter9630 weird
“Love one another as Jesus loves you.
Try to show kindness in all that you do.
Be gentle and loving in deed and in thought
For these are the things Jesus taught.”
The sad thing is it is not light and knowledge, it is a false religion, and they deceive you!!!
L.Ron Hubbard must've taken a page out of Joseph Smith's book.
Both of them were, at best, sick, sick puppies.
Scientology is true because a famous science fiction writer says it is true.
The research that I have done says he was NOT a freemason.
By the tenets of Freemasonry, he could have been one or the other, but not both.
Both made good points re the PT Barnum maxim that a sucker is born every minute. But Hubbard was more honest; he said he'd create his own religion and become rich from it. He did. And he doesn't mention Jesus or any other prophet in his teachings.
These guys came to my door once and being the stupid kid I was, I actually believed they were Christians. 😂
Joseph Smith is to Jesus as that label saying 'soy and cornstarch based imitation cheese product' in the dollar discount bin is to cheddar.
If they believe In Christ doesn’t that make them a Christian 😂
Ian Hovenden Nope. Muslims believe in Jesus but they are definitely not Christians.
James Petno they believe he’s a Profit not there savior so no there’s a difference😂
@@ianhovenden5068 And Mormons believe that Jesus isn’t God, so yeah there’s a difference 😂
Las Vegas sign "welcome to kolob" is hilarious
Ya, very strange cult, maybe what Joe saw was the opposite of an angel
To: Leslie L.
Re: The Cult of Families First
Anti-Latter-day Saint critics repeatedly refer to the Church as a cult; and yet, favorably proportionate to other churches, individual cases show people who have freely and knowingly joined the Church and just as freely chosen to leave--hardly the mark of a cult … said, The Anti-Defamation League
If the Church were a cult, then it would be The Cult of Families First. An oft quoted saying in the Church is: No success compensates for failure in the home. The Church teaches us how to be better husbands and wives, sons and daughters, and friends, neighbor, and citizens of our native lands as well as children of our Heavenly Father.
@@harryabelpotter9630 Well strong family value is good, but that's not why I or possibly others, think it is a cult! Furthermore, just because there may be "positive" or "good" things to it doesn't make it not a cult!
To: @@lesliel.6260 ... the Anti-Defamation League infamous for their protection of civil rights around the world said, "hardly the mark of a cult."
In other words, they do not see the signs of a closed society or closed minds who are unwilling to listen to others and to reason.
What did you think about that part of my comment?
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@@harryabelpotter9630 Well, I think it's a NGO that fights discrimination and they do some good work I might add. I am not discriminating, nor would I, but merely stating a personal opinion. They are not necessarily a final word on my personal opinion though as there are other evidences that would have to be considered (way too many to list here) and intellectually unsound to hang on the statements/opinions from one organization solely. Furthermore, the constitution protects religious freedom (regardless if it's a cult or not). I am not aware of any laws that are specifically against cults that function within the law and sometimes out such as the FLDS for example as prosecutions for plural marriage are limited at best. Now if you are asking why I think it's a cult that's a different story.
To: @@lesliel.6260
Re: thoughtful response
Thank you very much for your qualifying comment which has helped me to respect and understand your P.O.V. a little bit more.
If the only reason that you have to call the Church of Jesus Christ a cult is that your beliefs are different, then I find that position rather problematic.
Does your comment meant that you are an atheist? ... or ... if you are a Christian, what kind of Christian are you ... are you Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant?
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Excellent and accurate video! I'm one of many here who saw the truth and came out of the LDS cult.
@Ralph Wiggam Yeah it was slightly depressing hearing someone say that they're told and misled into believing that tithing goes to the poor and needy and widowed or some humanitarian causes, but i heard a rumor like only like 0.1% of the money put in tithing, a single penny, i hope it's better, but that doesn't sound very good. if your money is more likely better to end up donated being spent at Walmart, least charitable big organization at 5 cents per 10$?
You did the right thing
We are not cult we are religion
@@besnikberisha9532 You are cult.
Well done Sir, you did the right thing
Joseph Smith became a Freemason in March 1842 and in May that same year he introduced the Temple Endowment Session which according to Mormon's is necessary to be allowed entry into the Celestial Kingdom where God the Father and Son live. However the rituals are heavily borrowed in some cases word for word from Freemasonry.
epotterable Black curse is only a metaphor and Thats why the Mormon god came to America in 1978 and told the Mormon prophet it was ok to let blacks hold the fake LDS priesthood.
epotterable The time was right for what? To remove a curse you say is non existence? I thought you said the black thing was just a metaphor and now you are saying its a mysterious why God removed the curse? Who is buying this garbage?
The truth is ALWAYS acceptable, lies are not!
epotterable So the curse of blackness was a metaphor about black people not holding the priesthood but had nothing to do with the color of skin? What a pile of garbage. This is what you teach in Mormon wards? This has absolutely nothing to do with God. Its pure garbage. This is not a church of God! Its a cult of old white racist men.
Hey eppotterable , did God also say blacks and whites could now marry each other or do they still die on the spot like Bring-em Young said? Nasty Old Brig-em said it would always be so. Think God missed Butcher Bring-em's memo? Discussing LDS doctrine with a Mormon is like playing Monopoly with a bully who keeps changing the rules. The LDS is so good lying for the lord. No wonder Mormons are leaving the LDS church like movie goers fleeing a burning theater. I just wish more poor delusion Mormons would smell the smoke and take action.
If Mormons come to the door start singing "such love, pure as the whitest snow" watch them bolt as if fleeing in terror. If they come back again wanting to leave the Mormon religion start telling them about Jesus and the cross.
To: Sam Conduct ... I am a convert to the Church and I served a mission. We don't mind singing ~ if we know the words we will join in with you. And about Jesus and the cross, we will share scriptures from the Authorized King James version of the Holy Bible. But if all you want to do is insult and mock you might hear us say ~ excuse me, i think I hear my mama calling~ gotta go. :) In the meantime I have one question for you ...
What kind of Christian are you ~ Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant?
In any case.
MERRY CHRISTMAS
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@@harryabelpotter9630 what I said above is a true story, it's not an insult. What sort of Christian am I? A Christian who belongs to Jesus.
To: @@samconduct1356
Religious Bigotry Is Unacceptable
Are you Catholic, Orthodox, or Protestant?
Sam Conduct Also, talk about how powerful The Blood of Jesus Christ is. They’ll scatter like the demonic cockroaches they are!
Simply put, God is a supreme being. The highest, the best, the ultimate. If it was not so then God would not be God. He would simply be a more powerful being than ourselves. The very definition of God tells us there cannot be more than one. How can there be more than one ultimate?
The Mormon cult is not even remotely Christian no matter what they call themselves or tell you at your door.
They stopped sending missionaries to our house because we keep deconverting them 😂
I doubt it. They likely figured out that you were wasting their time.
@@todpolson8348 Not really everyone knows Mormons are mentally ill fools
@@Gtdmilon514 Takes one to know one .... it sounds like its time for you to take your meds again!
@@todpolson8348 😂😂😂 Mormons are morons nothing but mentally disabled brainwashed fools who are going too hell for their fake Christianity cult group.
@@Gtdmilon514 Wow... I think if there is any fake Christianity, it is you. You can tell a Christian by the way they act/talk/think. Your insinuation appears not to come from heaven ..... but it sounds like your issuing it from hell. I would recommend that you invite Christ into your heart... do that and you may even learn to love people who believe different than you.
We also went around as missionaries in brisbane and we were all sleeping at the same place in Brisbane and we couldn't stop laughing at some of those Mormon tutorial videos as they were so funny like ridiculous....and one of my friends ended up on American television........
Secrets is darkness, Mormonism is faternal darkness
the fact that most of this wasnt even taught to me when i was brought up mormon. and im not even talking about the secret temple stuff.
Odd, isn't it? Or how much knowledge Eve and Adam WERE mean't to have or not, maybe, to be actually operate as Stewards?
Sophie Hobbs what caused you to lose faith in Mormonism (I know that may be a long list, was there a straw that broke the camel's back?) and what kinds of beliefs do you now have if any? No judgment however you choose to answer...
@@masonthexmormon505 Fairly said. Also, what were Eve and Adam mean't to have knowledge of?
@@masonthexmormon505 Wait, never mind. Keep up the work.
Seriously? This is all, even that there are signs and tokens, talked about. I don't know anyone who was either raised in, or who later joined, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints that doesn't know these things.
God said "There's no other gods before me."
tetot baldonaza
.... Superman said....
see dummy, no reason to believe some thing just because it's in a book
THE GODHEAD said " THERE IS NONE BESIDE ME".
Ihate Religion I hope you don’t say the same about the Bible
Because Christians worshipping Jesus while it is against their own book!!!!
Actually, a human wrote that about his god.
Actually what God told Moses to write was, “You shall have no other gods before me" in Exodus. He is the one true God, the only thing/being existing that has always existed, no one created Him, all things ever were created by Him. So if such beings as Baal, Galactus, or Odin ever existed, there wouldn't be any issue of such beings challenging His holiness or sovereignty.
Didn't you guys ever go to Sunday school?