I tried to look for the first video but i cant find it , could i please have the link ? and most importantly Thank you to you both for an amazing video regarding TS
I will never understand why so many people assume that just because a person is speaking about their experience as a minority that they are speaking for the entire community. If a tall person says "I like baseball" you don't assume all tall people like baseball. But it so often happens with minorites. Even across very broad categories, like disabilities. Just because something helps or hurts me due to my disability doesn't mean it affects every disabled person the same way. In fact something that helps me might hinder someone else.
I will never understand either. Lol They get all triggered and the thing was she is just speaking her story. she didn't say that everyone with TS is like me. LOL Good lord. People are exhausting sometimes
I'm tall and I hate basketball...but I love volleyball 🏐 I gladly help shorter people get things off the top shelf at grocery stores...it's my super power 😁
It makes it feel like a community too, to see people return. It’s a lovely aspect of SBSK, isn’t it? Often I catch someone’s second or third or whatever video and then have another one I want to watch next, to see their previous ones. Celeste in this video is one of those people - they’re a really clear & thoughtful person speaking about an experience that we can all be allies with, stand up for & support, but few of us can say we actually genuinely understand, in a really gracious and interesting way. Definitely heading off to see their earlier video too!
When Chris used the word „graceful“ to describe Celeste‘s attitude, I thought, yes! Graceful, and beautifully eloquent. I want to learn to be like them when it comes to discussing my point of view, my identity, and other people‘s reactions to what I say. Thank you, Celeste! And best wishes from Germany!
When I saw this video post, I was like YAY-an update on Celeste. I instantly stopped what I was doing to watch it because Celeste's first video has always been one of my top 5 fave on this channel. I was sad however that they experienced negative feedback. Despite the challenges they have faced, Celeste exudes compassion, kindness, insightfulness, gentleness, intelligence and so articulate, nonjudgemental and 1,000 other positive adjectives. I cant imagine anyone being offended by anything in the first video.. Keep being you Celeste because you are so awesome and inspiring.
People are always offended by everything. Think about it, you got offended by someone else being offended in a different video (which I definitely don't perceive as wrong - I'm just using this as an example). I wish it was easier to accept people for who they are, no matter what they like, prefer, dress as, act like or want to be. It's our job to accept those that need it. Like one of my favorite songs, "Bully" by Three Days Grace. The lyrics in this song describe problems in people who aren't accepted perfectly, but it's sad
I can definitely understand why people were offended. Because they are people who have been set in their ways and don't adapt to change. Remember: even Jesus had enemies...and He still does. You'll probably see a few pop in here and spout off about how He doesn't exist or was just a man. It doesn't matter what someone does, how they think, or how hard they try to please everyone, there is always going to be someone who will "Bah humbug!" someone who is different. This is where we need to keep in mind that the issue has nothing to do with the person being bullied, and EVERYTHING to do with the bully. Bullies need therapy. They have issues. And they will ALWAYS exist.
My sister has severe PCOS and can't have kids. She also is losing her thick, beautiful curls in her 40s and having a lot of facial hair. Societies view on what it means to be a woman has severely harmed her mental health and self image. Thank you for bringing awareness to this topic.
Love this comment bc I love that you see your sister and how much societal ideals have harmed her, but also I love you’re username. Burninate the countryside Burninate the peasants (specifically the ones who make your sister doubt herself)
My girlfriend has PCOS and worries about these things happening when she gets older (we are in our early 30s) and regardless of how many times I tell her she's gorgeous, I think she's thinks "well he's gunna say that he wants me to feel better" or somthing like that. I don't worry about the looks side so much, her heart and mind is what I love and have fallen in love with, but I worry about the health issues she will have. But all we can do is be there, for your sister and my girlfriend, as best we can, and make sure they know that we are. Good luck and God bless you and your sis 🙂
@@goodanytimej8688 If she can't shake self-doubt and can't believe in compliments, that could be a sign she would benefit from seeing a professional about anxiety. Having supportive loved ones is so important, but it's good to have someone with training to help too.
@Connor Barkington I agree and appreciate the advice. She's gotten much better in the time we've been together, almost a year so not very long, but before that was in a very one sided and abusive relationship which did nothing to help thw situation. I've told her the same, I needed that kind of help at one time and due to upbringing, was very much against getting it until I grew up and realized there's nothing wrong with it. She's much the same with not wanting to admit when she needs help. But we are getting there, and I think it will take her far less time than it took me to see that accepting help like that isn't a negative
I have Turners Sydrome and very much identify as a girl, this is definitely Celeste's personal journey, but it's always interesting to hear other's who have the conditions experiences!
I'll just add that it doesn't make them any less valid to the community at all and they're right, anyone can identify as non-binary and gender non conforming. Just because they have a genetic condition that only effects AFAB doesn't make their identity any less meaningful to them.
well said. Ditto for me. I have TS and very much identify as female as well. But this just shows how diverse our TS community is and how unique each one of us are with our experiences.
@@Helelsonofdawn that is a very vague comment. Who isn't accepting themselves in this situation? Also, why is your acceptance so important to absolute strangers? If I said I don't accept you for who you are at this point in your life ( which is just an example, you are perfect in any point in your life) would it ruin your entire day? Would you try to change yourself to make me accept you? Or would you just say that it doesn't matter if I do or don't accept you because your life and personal choices are none of my business?
It's really interesting how some people are so defensive about a representative with the same condition as their child being part of another minority. I think it's because they already had to deal with the backlash of how society treats their child just with the TS label alone and don't want to risk their child getting even more deviated from the norm just for society to bash them even harder. But if you're going to try to "clear your child's reputation", at least be kind about it. If you don't want your child getting any more ashamed for just being who they are, don't give other people that treatment yourself. These people clearly never had the intention to cause harm to or misrepresent anyone, so don't go pointing any fingers if they happen to mess up one time, according to your perspective. Don't stoop any lower than the people that don't give your child the respect they deserve. Everybody with good intentions deserves at least a simple bit of respect, even when they make mistakes or you don't meet eye to eye on certain subjects. 💖
They're transphobic, so they believe that being intersex is an insult. I feel sad for their children, since these type of "parent" rarely actually cares about their children's wellbeing. Instead, they care more about what other people think and they force their children to "be normal".
"Don't stoop any lower than the people that don't give your child the respect they deserve" 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 People who don't respect you won't magically start respecting you just because you catered to them.
I am intersex too,Born with CaH and have always felt more genderdluid since as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). Thanks for bringing awareness to people like me,we are often not represented so it feels nice to see us being represented positively 😀
@@k1_w3 genderfluid is someone who feels their gender can fluctuate fluidly all along the gender spectrum and even outside of it. Use this beautiful internet, there are many educational resources you can easily find for free.
it's interesting that these parents had the response "my daughter is a girl, how dare you" and not "oh hey a video on turner syndrome, my daughter has that too." makes you wonder what they're so scared of 🤔
I really appreciate Celeste's patience and understanding here and appreciate Chris giving them the platform to have this discussion. As a disabled transwoman this was really great to see especially during pride month.
I’m an autistic trans guy so I also know what it’s like to have a disability and feel a different gender than what you were assigned. Happy pride month btw🌈
@@Sonicfan-cc1te I'm a pansexual trans ftm with severe gender dysphoria (so much so that it's held me back in school, lost friends, turned me into an extremely socially anxious guy and develop depression), Type 1 Diabetes, P-ANCA a rare kidney disease unrelated to the previous, got chemotherapy at 8 years old due to that and have obsessive compulsive tendencies thanks to genetics. My bro's a high functioning autistic, one of my 14 cousins is too, so I get what you're going through, my friend. Life is hard. Just keep trucking along ;)
Celeste expressed themselves clearly in the first video. I appreciate the opportunity to learn more about Turner Syndrome and respect Celeste for staying true to who they are.
@John Null Singular they/them pronouns have been in english for centuries so they're perfectly acceptable to use in cases where you are unsure of gender or are referring to a non-binary person, such as Celeste
@@myamdane6895 A quote from Merriam-Webster "In an 1881 letter, Emily Dickinson wrote 'Almost anyone under the circumstances would have doubted if [the letter] were theirs, or indeed if they were themself' People have used singular they to describe someone whose gender is unknown for a long time" And the first recorded use of singular they in English literature is from 1375 in the text "William and the Werewolf" Hope this helped 😁
I have a child with special needs and is socially awkward. I have to say 99 percent of people have been gracious, kind and accepting. My approach throughout my daughters social challenges was to have an open mind, open heart. Patience, politeness, and kindness are key.
People are twisted, your child is sheltered because he or she is surrounded by good people but that is just not how most people or the world is. Best of luck to her.
Does your child have autism? Because autistic people would and can be socially awkward at times and that even those with mild autism, including me that would have problems with social interactions.
Thank you so much for sharing your personal experiences with us, Celeste!! I really love how you talked about the complexity of intersectionality. you express yourself so intelligently and eloquently; I could picture you doing a podcast or something! Your kindness is so genuine, it felt like a conversation with a good friend 😊 And thank you Chris for your awesome content as always! ❤️
Coming from a fellow intersex non-binary person I loved this!!! I loved that our voices are being heard more and more and that more people are curious and positive! Celeste you are absolutely amazing:)
@@HannahRose19960 intersex is when someone doesn’t usually fit the box of male or female at birth. let’s say someone comes out of birth and they have both parts . some doctors will go and have surgery on the baby to fix the parts to make the look like what ever chromosomes they were supposed to be assigned or what ever their parts looked closest to. some times, people don’t figure out until later that they are intersex. some times, these people identify as transgender and since the doctor/parents make them have surgery to change at a baby, they make the choice to change as an adult
No shit Celeste doesn't represent the entire Turner Syndrome community? Isn't the entire point of this channel that you should get to know people through their condition, rather than for it?
Chris has been such a great advocate for those with neuro diversity and different levels of ability. It's nice to see this platform used to help educate about intersex and trans people too. And obviously Celeste is a great spokesperson for our communities too. Thank you both for your very necessary work!
Celeste comes across as very eloquent, wise and worldly. I can only dream that their calm and intelligent discourse here is an example of the direction the world is going, in the hands of Celeste's generation. Celeste, thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts. You've taught me something new and I value that so much. Much love, peace out 🥰👍
Celeste, you are amazing and SO brave for returning for a second time to expand on your experience. You should not have to justify your existence or identity, you are entirely valid and seen and from looking at a lot of the comments here, it's clear that you are an inspiration for other non-binary intersex people 🥰❤️
I absolutely love what Celeste said about fertility!! I am a 20-year-old cis-gendered woman who had a tubal ligation, literally four days ago, because my numerous health issues would make having biological children very dangerous for myself and potentially the child. I made the choice that was best for my health/safety and I know my femininity and ability to be a wonderful mother have nothing to do with my ability to have biological children. Having this surgery was a difficult decision and at one point I did question my role as a woman because of it, but at the end of the day I am proud of myself and Celeste's words helped me remember that!!
YES it was so awesome hearing Celeste talk about how much value and worth society places on giving birth/bearing children!!!!! it's so completely interwoven into our society and just hearing it be acknowledged and addressed was amazing, ty so much Celeste for touching on this topic and continuing to share your story!!! 💕
Also this interview makes me appreciate you even more than I already did, Chris. (: I think with the topic of gender identity, especially being trans or non-binary, there are a lot of people who react very strongly and negatively and at the moment there is a huge backlash in society in general. So I really appreciate your openness, your calm way of listening and asking great questions. And also how you are always open to challenging your own preconceptions. I also really liked how you brought up the topic of intersectionality. It's great that you have conversations like this one, because you have such a big, open community that is always willing to learn about other peoples lifes. (:
Hey, Celeste! You’re back!! Nice to see you again, and great to hear how you’ve been progressing since your last interview. Kudos for speaking up confidently for yourself, and for supporting others that haven’t found their voice yet. The world needs advocates like you, and I hope any negativity you’ve experienced since speaking out will not deter you - your resilience, your courage and as Chris said, your grace, are just a few qualities we all could benefit from being closer to and learning from. Keep doin what you’re doin, and hopefully we will see more updates in future!! 👏🏼💖🌈😊
seeing the stories of disabled nonbinary people on this platform is so meaningful to me - i'm disabled (albeit not in the same way) and nonbinary too, and i think celeste is so thoughtful in the way they express themself, and this channel is doing wonderful work in giving them a platform to help challenge the strict gender binary and explore their personal relationship with their gender and body ♥️
Celeste and Chris, thank you! I identify as gay and have Spina Bifida, and also.happen to be in recovery. It is so important to be confident in who you are!
Agreed! They both were judged and for NO reason. Time and time again Chris AND guests state that they're by no means speaking for an entire community, but rather simply telling their story. If people could stop projecting their own insecurities that would be swell!
@@Helelsonofdawn lol what? Then maybe don't make your kids shower in public. Also women can be pedos too. You're extremely sexist against men. If you mean trans people then that's a whole other thing. Trans women look like women so what's it matter? Would you want a big burly, Harry, muscular trans man with a beard in the women's showers next to your daughter or an extremely feminine trans woman?
How come all these folks have such excellent speaking skills...so perfect. No shyness of camera accurate pronunciation and it feels as if they should go on speaking. I loved them 🌹🌹
I thought this interview was really well done! It was nice to hear Chris talk to the person who is interviewing normally. We all have our upbeat professional working voice and it was just nice to hear his normal one in this video!👍❤️
It's good to see you gain, Celeste. Everybody is unique & it's inevitible that some people with ts, just like some people without ts, will be non-binary. A person's identity is not fully defined by their diagnosis. I didn't have any issues with your first interview. I enjoyed "meeting" you & getting to know you as a person, not just your ts diagnosis. Thank you so much for sharing more of your story. People can learn a lot from you.
Celeste, thank you so much for sharing your experiences with the SPSK community TWICE! You’re an incredible person and I especially appreciated your insights on intersectionality of identities. Our human spirits and beings are so complex, and I think many people forget that someone may have many identities and not just one.
Just want to thank you both for such an informative, thought provoking interview/conversation. Love the flow you guys have. Looking forward to the next one!
You're dead right about having kids. I can't have kids due to severe Crohn's Disease.. it's hard because society doesn't understand how hard it is for people who cannot have kids . Love from Dublin-ireland ❤️
@@acrxsls1766 I would think if it were as simple as that they would have done that. Please be sensitive to others situations. That can be taken as an awfully invalidating comment.
My acquaintances who have Crohn's have gone into remission during their pregnancies. If you have been advised by your doctor not to get pregnant, please research.
@@acrxsls1766 wow.. trust me if it was that easy, then I'd be cured! Whined your neck and mind your business.. Crohn's is an autoimmune Disease not just dietary. Do you research before you comment!
Great video, thank you! Celeste, it was a pleasure to hear you speak! People often commit to misunderstanding others if it doesn’t apply to their story line. Lots of love to you!!
What gracious, well spoken, and emotionally intelligent people Celeste and Chris both are. I am twice Celeste's age but wish I had more friends like that. I think they are great in every way.
I appreciate you talking so clearly and succinctly about these topics. They are a hot button issue now and you did a great job at speaking for yourself and your own convictions without speaking for others. I also see the value of intersectionality, in how it applies to you, that brings the concept of not being shoe horned into a predefined larger societal category and finding that gender euphoria. That is a concept I haven't been exposed to before in that way.
Everything about gender has so much potential to be nuanced. Like Celeste said themselves, having an intersex condition and identifying as non-binary has no inherent link but it can still change the experience of either. Forrest Valkai has an interesting video titled "Sex and Sensibility" that explains a ton about gender and sex from a biological perspective better than I ever could in a single comment. A lot of people seem to have this fear of others not falling into designated boxes and staying in them, in this case man or woman, despite there being so much that could be beyond. The variety should be explored and celebrated rather than shunned. Chris, I really appreciate your genuine interest in this sort of topic and having Celeste back here again as someone to help you explore it - you both did fantastic. :)
So proud of SBbSK for inviting Celeste back to talk about their experience with both Turner Syndrome and their experience being nonbinary, even if it's something some viewers aren't comfortable with. We don't often see integrity like that on youtube. Celeste's perspective is so important, and I love that Chris lets his friends speak for themselves in these videos. Keep up the amazing work! You rock, Celeste!
Love to see returning friends! I knew Celeste wasn't speaking for everyone with TS or every intersex person or every nonbinary person, but perhaps some folks needed to hear that reiterated. Anyway, happy Pride y'all! LGBTQIA+++ is a wide and gorgeous spectrum.
Thank you so much for sharing your story, Celeste! So many interesting layers to dissect when it comes to your story. You are so brave to be open to sharing it all! We have a lot to learn from you and stories like yours! Nonbinary love 💜💛🤍🖤
Being proud of who you are. That's really helped me thank you so much 💚. I'm facing different hardships at that moment and I'd lost my own view of me. But these words hit me. Thank you xx
Why would people have a negative reaction to them clearly talking about THEMSELVES? They're not saying the whole community is like this. I don't understand people honestly, but they responded very well to it.
Celeste and Chris, thank you for sharing such a heartfelt and sensitive topic. I hope Celeste knows that fostering or adopting is an option for them. You seem to be an amazing, thoughtful, compassionate and loving person. I would think that a child would be proud to call you their own. I commend you for your willingness to keep moving forward. I hope that your sobriety continues to be a healthy part of your journey. I don’t know what kind of work you do, but I do know that I would be proud to call you friend and colleague. Your star is as bright as your smile and laugh! Sending love from CALIF!
Celeste - You are a beautiful person, compassionate, insightful, nonjudgmental, and clearly very intelligent. Whatever you want to do with your life, you will be successful.
I so appreciate the courage it takes to share your story in a world that limits us with labels. You have such a beautiful, kind and generous soul. It’s incredible. Thank you for being unique and helping the world learn to embrace our uniqueness. We are all connected despite our differences.🙏🏻💕🌻
Hi Celeste, I think it is so beautiful how you respond to the push back from others. You were able to take something negative and turn it into a learning opportunity for others. You are such a ray of sunshine and I’m so glad I stumbled upon this video - you are so incredibly emotionally intelligent and I think how you spoke in this interview was inspiring
It’s odd how defensive people can get over one’s own experience. Almost as if ALL people with turners syndrome should feel how they do. No one else was attacked for how they exist as a person with the same difference in genetics
Celeste is great! They are so calm and good with expressing their thoughts - I'm not sure I would have as much patience for people pushing back against me sharing my experiences. So "graceful" is definitely a good word to describe Celeste!! I'm a perisex (not intersex) non binary person and I'm glad that the topic of queer community having problems with accommodating disabled people or people in recovery was mentioned - intersectionality is really important and we should all remember that being discriminated against or being a victim of prejudice doesn't mean we can't discriminate, be prejudiced and inconsiderate towards other people from marginalized groups. Chris, I'm thankful that you are also trying to be intersectional in your thinking and that you give people a platform to represent their reality. I think that this video is really important in so many ways!
@@gothgrrl8711 They're a troll. They're doing this on all the comments and saying the typical "I thought you were supposed to be a tolerant community" bs to people who are trying to educate them because they're "being rude" IMO this person probably doesn't even watch these videos. Any videos on TH-cam that have anything to do with the LGBT community always attract a bunch of outside trolls.
@@k1_w3 Not unnecessary if it helps people have discussions and differentiate conditions. Just like disabled and abled-body, even if disabled people are a minority, abled-bodied is still helpful language. Interesex people deserve to have their own words to talk about their experiences. Also, you make a dangerous implication by saying intersex people aren't part of the norm, as if to say they're unatural in a negative sense. Might be just me but be careful about that.
Hey Celeste, I can't believe you had negative comments on your first video! I thought you spoke so clearly that it was YOUR experience with TS and this was how YOU identify. Some people have such knee jerk reactions to others who are outside their worldview, they act like it's a personal attack on them, but in reality they are uncomfortable because they are so closed minded. I think you are totally awesome and I'm happy you are living true to how you feel. Also congrats on your sobriety, such and achievement, proud of you!
Thank you Celeste for being so open about your gender identity. As a women with ts some trouble watching the first video, mostly due to personally never feeling like a boy in any way. But not fully feeling female, just not being complete. I understand that not everyone feels the same. And you don’t deserve negativity in any way. I am glad you had the chance to explain more how you felt. It is a shame gender is such a difficult topic within our community. Love and thank your for sharing your story
That’s called being human and it’s how most women feel. Just cause sexist society says women have to act a certain way to be women doesn’t mean it’s true.
I love the kind eyes you’re giving those who reacted negatively. But the fact that you’ve spent so much of this video having to explain yourself saddens me. People need to learn how to actively listen to learn and not to react. Much love to you! ❤️
It really takes away from the acceptance thing when it only applies to some who are discriminated and not to others. Thanks Chris for highlighting this discrepancy.
Interesting conversation. We thank you, Celeste and Chris, for sharing life experiences with us. Also, like the design and colors of Celestes new Tattoo.
Thanks Celeste ⚘️ 😊 for sharing your brave and simply being who you are. We shouldn't have to be brave to just be, for sure. I appreciate you being open and teaching us how things are for you. Much love on your journey 💛
I feel so bad that people made you feel bad for expressing who you are! I will never understand why anyone feels like they have the right to tell another person how they should feel, or think, or be. You are a beautiful person inside and out. Congratulations on the success you've had in your recovery journey!! That's amazing! I'm so happy for you, Celeste.
Celeste is someone I have so much respect for. They have so much compassion and understanding for the people who had a negative reaction. I also loved the conversation regarding intersectionality! This video will be so useful and beneficial for people to see.
Celeste, never feel bad, guilty or embarrassed for openly expressing who you are; most people aren't half as self aware as you are, you explain your own experience, TS or no TS. Let all the negativity wash right over you, keep your positivity untarnished by any 'sticks & stones' thrown your way(cos the saying is wrong, it should be "name calling hurts like sticks & stones" ) & just keep on smiling, being you & spreading the openness & understanding you show in this video, even to those "haters" out there; you are an amazing person ❤️
Life is complicated. Then add to that a disability of any kind and it becomes extra tricky to navigate. I've always been different and have become socially isolated over the years due to feeling extremely self conscious of my differences. What doesn't help is when other people invalidate my experience with their lack of understanding. Celeste, you spoke beautifully not just for those who identify as non-binary and intersectional but for all of us who are different. I have ADHD, Dysthymia and CPTSD. It's taken me a lifetime of living and research to understand myself more and I'm still learning how to function within my limits. Thanks Chris for the work you do and the way you give people a chance to speak and be heard. It's a most valuable gift we are given here on your channel. xo
I love this interview sooo much. thank you for putting this out there and making people who are non-binary with TS (like me) feel seen! the questions you asked were also really insightful and got down to a lot of the dynamics of the world and the TS community : )
Just wow. What a bright and intelligent human being. Thank you for your clear expression of the way you identify .You would make an incredible teacher. All the best.
Celeste is really so graceful and wonderful! As a fellow nonbinary, it makes me happy to see them proudly being themself and discussing the specific experience of being LGBTQ and disabled
Thank You for being you, I am saddened that you felt the need to create another video to explain how you feel about YOURSELF and your choices having T.S., just wish people listened better when they watched your first video, I think you are beautiful inside and out and I appreciate your braveness, your kindness and the intelligent way in which you communicate your thoughts and feelings. I wish you a Very Happy Life♡
People need to be less judgemental! No matter how others identify, it is THEIR life, not yours, accept that and move on! Celeste is very, very brave to speak out considering all the haters out there! And thank you Chris for giving this issue a platform! 💜 Edit: So proud of you for your sobriety, Celeste! ❤️👏💙
Excellent video! Congrats to Celeste for your recovery, including that process of recovery from open heart surgery. I've had a mechanical mitral valve for 24 years. Trying to keep within the therapeutic zone is still a challenge sometimes. It's great to get to learn about you & your journey!
Thank you Celeste for your willingness to have such an important conversation!
Thank you so much for sharing this video sbsk
Yes thank you i was born with a mixture of female rep organs and male Gen it's kinda hard to see yourself as one or the other. You go
@@aprylrittenhouse4562 im really expressed with that that is very unique apryl
Celeste is amazing!
I tried to look for the first video but i cant find it , could i please have the link ? and most importantly Thank you to you both for an amazing video regarding TS
I will never understand why so many people assume that just because a person is speaking about their experience as a minority that they are speaking for the entire community. If a tall person says "I like baseball" you don't assume all tall people like baseball. But it so often happens with minorites. Even across very broad categories, like disabilities. Just because something helps or hurts me due to my disability doesn't mean it affects every disabled person the same way. In fact something that helps me might hinder someone else.
I will never understand either. Lol They get all triggered and the thing was she is just speaking her story. she didn't say that everyone with TS is like me. LOL Good lord. People are exhausting sometimes
@@larissahostetter2335 *they, not she
@@larissahostetter2335 they*
You are awesome
I'm tall and I hate basketball...but I love volleyball 🏐
I gladly help shorter people get things off the top shelf at grocery stores...it's my super power 😁
I love when SBSK revisits previous guests on the channel, such an awesome community!
I agree. It really shows the changes that are experienced with those people.
It makes it feel like a community too, to see people return. It’s a lovely aspect of SBSK, isn’t it? Often I catch someone’s second or third or whatever video and then have another one I want to watch next, to see their previous ones.
Celeste in this video is one of those people - they’re a really clear & thoughtful person speaking about an experience that we can all be allies with, stand up for & support, but few of us can say we actually genuinely understand, in a really gracious and interesting way. Definitely heading off to see their earlier video too!
When Chris used the word „graceful“ to describe Celeste‘s attitude, I thought, yes! Graceful, and beautifully eloquent. I want to learn to be like them when it comes to discussing my point of view, my identity, and other people‘s reactions to what I say. Thank you, Celeste! And best wishes from Germany!
Wow! both of you handled "push back" comments like mature confident people! I learned a lot...
Thank you!
When I saw this video post, I was like YAY-an update on Celeste. I instantly stopped what I was doing to watch it because Celeste's first video has always been one of my top 5 fave on this channel. I was sad however that they experienced negative feedback. Despite the challenges they have faced, Celeste exudes compassion, kindness, insightfulness, gentleness, intelligence and so articulate, nonjudgemental and 1,000 other positive adjectives. I cant imagine anyone being offended by anything in the first video.. Keep being you Celeste because you are so awesome and inspiring.
People are always offended by everything. Think about it, you got offended by someone else being offended in a different video (which I definitely don't perceive as wrong - I'm just using this as an example). I wish it was easier to accept people for who they are, no matter what they like, prefer, dress as, act like or want to be. It's our job to accept those that need it. Like one of my favorite songs, "Bully" by Three Days Grace. The lyrics in this song describe problems in people who aren't accepted perfectly, but it's sad
I can definitely understand why people were offended. Because they are people who have been set in their ways and don't adapt to change. Remember: even Jesus had enemies...and He still does. You'll probably see a few pop in here and spout off about how He doesn't exist or was just a man. It doesn't matter what someone does, how they think, or how hard they try to please everyone, there is always going to be someone who will "Bah humbug!" someone who is different. This is where we need to keep in mind that the issue has nothing to do with the person being bullied, and EVERYTHING to do with the bully. Bullies need therapy. They have issues. And they will ALWAYS exist.
My sister has severe PCOS and can't have kids. She also is losing her thick, beautiful curls in her 40s and having a lot of facial hair. Societies view on what it means to be a woman has severely harmed her mental health and self image. Thank you for bringing awareness to this topic.
Love this comment bc I love that you see your sister and how much societal ideals have harmed her, but also I love you’re username.
Burninate the countryside
Burninate the peasants (specifically the ones who make your sister doubt herself)
@@Cbbartelt 😁
My girlfriend has PCOS and worries about these things happening when she gets older (we are in our early 30s) and regardless of how many times I tell her she's gorgeous, I think she's thinks "well he's gunna say that he wants me to feel better" or somthing like that. I don't worry about the looks side so much, her heart and mind is what I love and have fallen in love with, but I worry about the health issues she will have. But all we can do is be there, for your sister and my girlfriend, as best we can, and make sure they know that we are. Good luck and God bless you and your sis 🙂
@@goodanytimej8688 If she can't shake self-doubt and can't believe in compliments, that could be a sign she would benefit from seeing a professional about anxiety. Having supportive loved ones is so important, but it's good to have someone with training to help too.
@Connor Barkington I agree and appreciate the advice. She's gotten much better in the time we've been together, almost a year so not very long, but before that was in a very one sided and abusive relationship which did nothing to help thw situation. I've told her the same, I needed that kind of help at one time and due to upbringing, was very much against getting it until I grew up and realized there's nothing wrong with it. She's much the same with not wanting to admit when she needs help. But we are getting there, and I think it will take her far less time than it took me to see that accepting help like that isn't a negative
You are incredible Celeste. You dont let anyone bring you down.
I have Turners Sydrome and very much identify as a girl, this is definitely Celeste's personal journey, but it's always interesting to hear other's who have the conditions experiences!
I'll just add that it doesn't make them any less valid to the community at all and they're right, anyone can identify as non-binary and gender non conforming. Just because they have a genetic condition that only effects AFAB doesn't make their identity any less meaningful to them.
well said. Ditto for me. I have TS and very much identify as female as well. But this just shows how diverse our TS community is and how unique each one of us are with our experiences.
@@laurastainforth4612 i wont accept anyone who cant accept themselves
I also have turners
@@Helelsonofdawn that is a very vague comment. Who isn't accepting themselves in this situation? Also, why is your acceptance so important to absolute strangers? If I said I don't accept you for who you are at this point in your life ( which is just an example, you are perfect in any point in your life) would it ruin your entire day? Would you try to change yourself to make me accept you? Or would you just say that it doesn't matter if I do or don't accept you because your life and personal choices are none of my business?
It's really interesting how some people are so defensive about a representative with the same condition as their child being part of another minority. I think it's because they already had to deal with the backlash of how society treats their child just with the TS label alone and don't want to risk their child getting even more deviated from the norm just for society to bash them even harder.
But if you're going to try to "clear your child's reputation", at least be kind about it. If you don't want your child getting any more ashamed for just being who they are, don't give other people that treatment yourself. These people clearly never had the intention to cause harm to or misrepresent anyone, so don't go pointing any fingers if they happen to mess up one time, according to your perspective. Don't stoop any lower than the people that don't give your child the respect they deserve.
Everybody with good intentions deserves at least a simple bit of respect, even when they make mistakes or you don't meet eye to eye on certain subjects. 💖
Beautifully said.
Seems like a bunch of homophobia, but that's a nice way to think of it.
They're transphobic, so they believe that being intersex is an insult.
I feel sad for their children, since these type of "parent" rarely actually cares about their children's wellbeing. Instead, they care more about what other people think and they force their children to "be normal".
"Don't stoop any lower than the people that don't give your child the respect they deserve"
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 People who don't respect you won't magically start respecting you just because you catered to them.
Maybe because women feel like they are under attack. Maybe ask a woman?
I am intersex too,Born with CaH and have always felt more genderdluid since as long as I can remember (I'm 38 now). Thanks for bringing awareness to people like me,we are often not represented so it feels nice to see us being represented positively 😀
Happy rainbow-month! 🌈
@@siiiriously3226 Thank you! You too! That was a nice comment 💛💜
@@k1_w3 genderfluid is someone who feels their gender can fluctuate fluidly all along the gender spectrum and even outside of it. Use this beautiful internet, there are many educational resources you can easily find for free.
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@@MISNM0 💜💙💚💛🧡❤
it's interesting that these parents had the response "my daughter is a girl, how dare you" and not "oh hey a video on turner syndrome, my daughter has that too." makes you wonder what they're so scared of 🤔
Yup. While I want to give some parents the benefit of doubt, they're coming off like "my kid can't see that, it'll turn them gay!"
👀 don't say {gay} and it might go away!
@@throughthedin "stop grooming children to be interested in destructive lifestyles" more like it
Society are getting crazy about non-binary people. So parents wants their children to be ordinary.
I really appreciate Celeste's patience and understanding here and appreciate Chris giving them the platform to have this discussion. As a disabled transwoman this was really great to see especially during pride month.
Happy rainbow-month! 🌈
I’m an autistic trans guy so I also know what it’s like to have a disability and feel a different gender than what you were assigned. Happy pride month btw🌈
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ADHD bi & trans/nb here, happy pride 🏳️🌈
@@Sonicfan-cc1te I'm a pansexual trans ftm with severe gender dysphoria (so much so that it's held me back in school, lost friends, turned me into an extremely socially anxious guy and develop depression), Type 1 Diabetes, P-ANCA a rare kidney disease unrelated to the previous, got chemotherapy at 8 years old due to that and have obsessive compulsive tendencies thanks to genetics. My bro's a high functioning autistic, one of my 14 cousins is too, so I get what you're going through, my friend. Life is hard. Just keep trucking along ;)
Celeste expressed themselves clearly in the first video. I appreciate the opportunity to learn more about Turner Syndrome and respect Celeste for staying true to who they are.
@John Null Celeste goes by they/them
@John Null Singular they/them pronouns have been in english for centuries so they're perfectly acceptable to use in cases where you are unsure of gender or are referring to a non-binary person, such as Celeste
@@erinpennington19 been in English for centuries? Where?
@@myamdane6895 A quote from Merriam-Webster "In an 1881 letter, Emily Dickinson wrote 'Almost anyone under the circumstances would have doubted if [the letter] were theirs, or indeed if they were themself' People have used singular they to describe someone whose gender is unknown for a long time"
And the first recorded use of singular they in English literature is from 1375 in the text "William and the Werewolf" Hope this helped 😁
@John Null these people are far gone
I have a child with special needs and is socially awkward. I have to say 99 percent of people have been gracious, kind and accepting. My approach throughout my daughters social challenges was to have an open mind, open heart. Patience, politeness, and kindness are key.
I have social anxiety disorder, your daughter is probably exhausted I hope she's OK
People are twisted, your child is sheltered because he or she is surrounded by good people but that is just not how most people or the world is. Best of luck to her.
@@sugarbear0502 Bless your heart..
@@unitedstatesofamerica9948 she’s not sheltered by any means. But good luck to you, your negativity will only attract negative people.
Does your child have autism? Because autistic people would and can be socially awkward at times and that even those with mild autism, including me that would have problems with social interactions.
Thank you so much for sharing your personal experiences with us, Celeste!! I really love how you talked about the complexity of intersectionality. you express yourself so intelligently and eloquently; I could picture you doing a podcast or something! Your kindness is so genuine, it felt like a conversation with a good friend 😊 And thank you Chris for your awesome content as always! ❤️
Coming from a fellow intersex non-binary person I loved this!!! I loved that our voices are being heard more and more and that more people are curious and positive! Celeste you are absolutely amazing:)
I have a learning disability can you help me understand what intersex and what non binary means
@@HannahRose19960 intersex is when someone doesn’t usually fit the box of male or female at birth. let’s say someone comes out of birth and they have both parts . some doctors will go and have surgery on the baby to fix the parts to make the look like what ever chromosomes they were supposed to be assigned or what ever their parts looked closest to. some times, people don’t figure out until later that they are intersex. some times, these people identify as transgender and since the doctor/parents make them have surgery to change at a baby, they make the choice to change as an adult
@@HannahRose19960 and non-binary means when someone doesn’t feel 100% boy or 100% girl. their gender identity is non binary
Oh ok thank you 😊
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No shit Celeste doesn't represent the entire Turner Syndrome community? Isn't the entire point of this channel that you should get to know people through their condition, rather than for it?
i think it's because people were accusing Celeste of trying to represent the entire community.
@@intheskatepark But Celeste never did that.
@@intheskatepark I know, im saying the people making these accusations should have known better.
Chris has been such a great advocate for those with neuro diversity and different levels of ability. It's nice to see this platform used to help educate about intersex and trans people too. And obviously Celeste is a great spokesperson for our communities too. Thank you both for your very necessary work!
Celeste comes across as very eloquent, wise and worldly. I can only dream that their calm and intelligent discourse here is an example of the direction the world is going, in the hands of Celeste's generation.
Celeste, thanks for sharing your experiences and thoughts. You've taught me something new and I value that so much.
Much love, peace out 🥰👍
Celeste, you are amazing and SO brave for returning for a second time to expand on your experience. You should not have to justify your existence or identity, you are entirely valid and seen and from looking at a lot of the comments here, it's clear that you are an inspiration for other non-binary intersex people 🥰❤️
love that you had them back to talk more on this subject! and glad to hear their thoughts again on their identity as well as their syndrome :)
I absolutely love what Celeste said about fertility!! I am a 20-year-old cis-gendered woman who had a tubal ligation, literally four days ago, because my numerous health issues would make having biological children very dangerous for myself and potentially the child. I made the choice that was best for my health/safety and I know my femininity and ability to be a wonderful mother have nothing to do with my ability to have biological children. Having this surgery was a difficult decision and at one point I did question my role as a woman because of it, but at the end of the day I am proud of myself and Celeste's words helped me remember that!!
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Cis gendered woman? No, you are quite simply just a genuine woman. No reason to have a prefix. Those who aren't real women use a prefix.
YES it was so awesome hearing Celeste talk about how much value and worth society places on giving birth/bearing children!!!!! it's so completely interwoven into our society and just hearing it be acknowledged and addressed was amazing, ty so much Celeste for touching on this topic and continuing to share your story!!! 💕
Celeste seems so calm and well spoken, I want to be more like them in that way.
Celeste is an amazing human! I am so grateful to get to hear their perspective.
Celeste seems like such a kind person. They seem to be such a positive person despite the struggle they live with!
Thank you Celeste for speaking so openly and for being who you are. (: you're great.
Also this interview makes me appreciate you even more than I already did, Chris. (:
I think with the topic of gender identity, especially being trans or non-binary, there are a lot of people who react very strongly and negatively and at the moment there is a huge backlash in society in general.
So I really appreciate your openness, your calm way of listening and asking great questions. And also how you are always open to challenging your own preconceptions.
I also really liked how you brought up the topic of intersectionality.
It's great that you have conversations like this one, because you have such a big, open community that is always willing to learn about other peoples lifes. (:
Hey, Celeste! You’re back!! Nice to see you again, and great to hear how you’ve been progressing since your last interview. Kudos for speaking up confidently for yourself, and for supporting others that haven’t found their voice yet. The world needs advocates like you, and I hope any negativity you’ve experienced since speaking out will not deter you - your resilience, your courage and as Chris said, your grace, are just a few qualities we all could benefit from being closer to and learning from.
Keep doin what you’re doin, and hopefully we will see more updates in future!! 👏🏼💖🌈😊
seeing the stories of disabled nonbinary people on this platform is so meaningful to me - i'm disabled (albeit not in the same way) and nonbinary too, and i think celeste is so thoughtful in the way they express themself, and this channel is doing wonderful work in giving them a platform to help challenge the strict gender binary and explore their personal relationship with their gender and body ♥️
How is she disable? Does she have something else other than Turner syndrome?
Here we go.. you Caucasian people are off the hook.
@@Toastymosty69 what does that have to do with it 💀💀
@@Toastymosty69 a bit of an enraged gamer are we?
@@AndyKnight big mad are we? Keep being pressed 🙂
Celeste and Chris, thank you! I identify as gay and have Spina Bifida, and also.happen to be in recovery. It is so important to be confident in who you are!
I loved this interview. Celeste - you are so well spoken and I enjoyed hearing everything you had to say. Thank you for sharing. ❤❤
You can tell Chris was pretty upset by those comments. Completely understandable, it wasn't fair.
Agreed! They both were judged and for NO reason. Time and time again Chris AND guests state that they're by no means speaking for an entire community, but rather simply telling their story. If people could stop projecting their own insecurities that would be swell!
@@heatherelizabeth9008 not wanting grown men to shower with my daughters at the gym is being insecure?
@@Helelsonofdawn you know damn well that’s not correlated to anything going on in this video or this comment section.
@@zircobyte women are women!
@@Helelsonofdawn lol what? Then maybe don't make your kids shower in public. Also women can be pedos too. You're extremely sexist against men. If you mean trans people then that's a whole other thing. Trans women look like women so what's it matter? Would you want a big burly, Harry, muscular trans man with a beard in the women's showers next to your daughter or an extremely feminine trans woman?
You spoke so eloquently Celeste! Thank you for being you and for sharing your story!
Yay Celeste! I really like their first video, good to see you back!
So very happy for you Celeste! Your are a lovely human being inside and out, and thank you for sharing everything with us! Much love!
How come all these folks have such excellent speaking skills...so perfect. No shyness of camera accurate pronunciation and it feels as if they should go on speaking. I loved them 🌹🌹
I am still trying to work it out and I will be 72 tomorrow. You be you, a lovely human being.
Celeste is so well-spoken. As in their first video they convey clearly that they're talking about their own experience.
I thought this interview was really well done! It was nice to hear Chris talk to the person who is interviewing normally. We all have our upbeat professional working voice and it was just nice to hear his normal one in this video!👍❤️
It's good to see you gain, Celeste. Everybody is unique & it's inevitible that some people with ts, just like some people without ts, will be non-binary. A person's identity is not fully defined by their diagnosis. I didn't have any issues with your first interview. I enjoyed "meeting" you & getting to know you as a person, not just your ts diagnosis. Thank you so much for sharing more of your story. People can learn a lot from you.
Celeste, thank you so much for sharing your experiences with the SPSK community TWICE! You’re an incredible person and I especially appreciated your insights on intersectionality of identities. Our human spirits and beings are so complex, and I think many people forget that someone may have many identities and not just one.
Just want to thank you both for such an informative, thought provoking interview/conversation. Love the flow you guys have. Looking forward to the next one!
You're dead right about having kids. I can't have kids due to severe Crohn's Disease.. it's hard because society doesn't understand how hard it is for people who cannot have kids . Love from Dublin-ireland ❤️
Crohns is diet related. Cut out carbohydrates and sugars.
@@acrxsls1766 I would think if it were as simple as that they would have done that. Please be sensitive to others situations. That can be taken as an awfully invalidating comment.
My acquaintances who have Crohn's have gone into remission during their pregnancies.
If you have been advised by your doctor not to get pregnant, please research.
@@acrxsls1766 wow.. trust me if it was that easy, then I'd be cured! Whined your neck and mind your business.. Crohn's is an autoimmune Disease not just dietary. Do you research before you comment!
@@Dbiss thank you ❤️
Great video, thank you! Celeste, it was a pleasure to hear you speak! People often commit to misunderstanding others if it doesn’t apply to their story line. Lots of love to you!!
What gracious, well spoken, and emotionally intelligent people Celeste and Chris both are. I am twice Celeste's age but wish I had more friends like that. I think they are great in every way.
Celeste is one of my most favorite guests you've had on. Learned a lot from them. They are so confident.
I appreciate you talking so clearly and succinctly about these topics. They are a hot button issue now and you did a great job at speaking for yourself and your own convictions without speaking for others. I also see the value of intersectionality, in how it applies to you, that brings the concept of not being shoe horned into a predefined larger societal category and finding that gender euphoria. That is a concept I haven't been exposed to before in that way.
What an amazing human being and incredibly well spoken.
Celeste is absolutely wonderful, the story they shared really touched my heart!
They are such a cool person! Thanks for sharing your story, Celeste
Everything about gender has so much potential to be nuanced. Like Celeste said themselves, having an intersex condition and identifying as non-binary has no inherent link but it can still change the experience of either. Forrest Valkai has an interesting video titled "Sex and Sensibility" that explains a ton about gender and sex from a biological perspective better than I ever could in a single comment.
A lot of people seem to have this fear of others not falling into designated boxes and staying in them, in this case man or woman, despite there being so much that could be beyond. The variety should be explored and celebrated rather than shunned.
Chris, I really appreciate your genuine interest in this sort of topic and having Celeste back here again as someone to help you explore it - you both did fantastic. :)
I watched the video you recommended and it was extremely helpful for me to understand a lot of things, thank you!
@John McAlister themselves*
I love Forrest's vids
@John McAlister there's no woman in the video. Just an intersex non binary person. The pronouns are for their comfort, not yours.
@John McAlister not everything is about you.
So proud of SBbSK for inviting Celeste back to talk about their experience with both Turner Syndrome and their experience being nonbinary, even if it's something some viewers aren't comfortable with. We don't often see integrity like that on youtube. Celeste's perspective is so important, and I love that Chris lets his friends speak for themselves in these videos. Keep up the amazing work! You rock, Celeste!
i don't usually comment but just wanted to say thank you for speaking out about your experience and congrats on your recovery journey!!
Love to see returning friends! I knew Celeste wasn't speaking for everyone with TS or every intersex person or every nonbinary person, but perhaps some folks needed to hear that reiterated. Anyway, happy Pride y'all! LGBTQIA+++ is a wide and gorgeous spectrum.
Thank you so much for sharing your story, Celeste! So many interesting layers to dissect when it comes to your story. You are so brave to be open to sharing it all! We have a lot to learn from you and stories like yours! Nonbinary love 💜💛🤍🖤
What an amazing person who has the best way of communicating what they live and thank you so much for this wonderful video, dear!! ❤️👍😇
Being proud of who you are. That's really helped me thank you so much 💚. I'm facing different hardships at that moment and I'd lost my own view of me. But these words hit me. Thank you xx
Why would people have a negative reaction to them clearly talking about THEMSELVES? They're not saying the whole community is like this. I don't understand people honestly, but they responded very well to it.
They* lmao 🤣
Humans being humans, I love this channel. I learn so much every time 😁
One thing that a sceptic can’t deny; Celeste, is incredibly intelligent. They know their situation in a completely and holistically way
This is a family friend and they're amazing. Love seeing their story told.
Celeste and Chris, thank you for sharing such a heartfelt and sensitive topic. I hope Celeste knows that fostering or adopting is an option for them. You seem to be an amazing, thoughtful, compassionate and loving person. I would think that a child would be proud to call you their own. I commend you for your willingness to keep moving forward. I hope that your sobriety continues to be a healthy part of your journey. I don’t know what kind of work you do, but I do know that I would be proud to call you friend and colleague. Your star is as bright as your smile and laugh! Sending love from CALIF!
Celeste - You are a beautiful person, compassionate, insightful, nonjudgmental, and clearly very intelligent. Whatever you want to do with your life, you will be successful.
I so appreciate the courage it takes to share your story in a world that limits us with labels. You have such a beautiful, kind and generous soul. It’s incredible. Thank you for being unique and helping the world learn to embrace our uniqueness. We are all connected despite our differences.🙏🏻💕🌻
Thank you for sharing your story Celeste! This discussion was great.
Hi Celeste, I think it is so beautiful how you respond to the push back from others. You were able to take something negative and turn it into a learning opportunity for others. You are such a ray of sunshine and I’m so glad I stumbled upon this video - you are so incredibly emotionally intelligent and I think how you spoke in this interview was inspiring
It’s odd how defensive people can get over one’s own experience. Almost as if ALL people with turners syndrome should feel how they do. No one else was attacked for how they exist as a person with the same difference in genetics
Celeste is great! They are so calm and good with expressing their thoughts - I'm not sure I would have as much patience for people pushing back against me sharing my experiences. So "graceful" is definitely a good word to describe Celeste!!
I'm a perisex (not intersex) non binary person and I'm glad that the topic of queer community having problems with accommodating disabled people or people in recovery was mentioned - intersectionality is really important and we should all remember that being discriminated against or being a victim of prejudice doesn't mean we can't discriminate, be prejudiced and inconsiderate towards other people from marginalized groups.
Chris, I'm thankful that you are also trying to be intersectional in your thinking and that you give people a platform to represent their reality. I think that this video is really important in so many ways!
@@k1_w3 google says “perisex” is a term proposed by and/or for the intersex community to describe a person who is not intersex.
@@gothgrrl8711 They're a troll. They're doing this on all the comments and saying the typical "I thought you were supposed to be a tolerant community" bs to people who are trying to educate them because they're "being rude" IMO this person probably doesn't even watch these videos. Any videos on TH-cam that have anything to do with the LGBT community always attract a bunch of outside trolls.
@@k1_w3 Not unnecessary if it helps people have discussions and differentiate conditions. Just like disabled and abled-body, even if disabled people are a minority, abled-bodied is still helpful language. Interesex people deserve to have their own words to talk about their experiences. Also, you make a dangerous implication by saying intersex people aren't part of the norm, as if to say they're unatural in a negative sense. Might be just me but be careful about that.
I love Celeste, I’m so glad you had them back.
Hey Celeste, I can't believe you had negative comments on your first video! I thought you spoke so clearly that it was YOUR experience with TS and this was how YOU identify. Some people have such knee jerk reactions to others who are outside their worldview, they act like it's a personal attack on them, but in reality they are uncomfortable because they are so closed minded. I think you are totally awesome and I'm happy you are living true to how you feel. Also congrats on your sobriety, such and achievement, proud of you!
Thank you Celeste for being so open about your gender identity. As a women with ts some trouble watching the first video, mostly due to personally never feeling like a boy in any way. But not fully feeling female, just not being complete. I understand that not everyone feels the same. And you don’t deserve negativity in any way. I am glad you had the chance to explain more how you felt. It is a shame gender is such a difficult topic within our community. Love and thank your for sharing your story
That’s called being human and it’s how most women feel. Just cause sexist society says women have to act a certain way to be women doesn’t mean it’s true.
Thank you Celeste for speaking so eloquently on your situation and how it impacts your life. I have learned so much from you. I wish you all the best.
They are so sweet! No explanation needed I don't think! What an amazing soul they are.
So glad to see them again and doing well! I wish nothing but the absolute best for them!
I love the kind eyes you’re giving those who reacted negatively. But the fact that you’ve spent so much of this video having to explain yourself saddens me. People need to learn how to actively listen to learn and not to react. Much love to you! ❤️
Celeste is very well spoken and very sweet. It was nice to hear about your experience and you have a lovely smile.
It really takes away from the acceptance thing when it only applies to some who are discriminated and not to others. Thanks Chris for highlighting this discrepancy.
this was so educational, thank you Celeste you articulated it so well for those of us who didn't know much about the topic!
Interesting conversation. We thank you, Celeste and Chris, for sharing life experiences with us. Also, like the design and colors of Celestes new Tattoo.
Thanks Celeste ⚘️ 😊 for sharing your brave and simply being who you are. We shouldn't have to be brave to just be, for sure. I appreciate you being open and teaching us how things are for you. Much love on your journey 💛
Thank you for explaining everything so well, Celeste!
I feel so bad that people made you feel bad for expressing who you are! I will never understand why anyone feels like they have the right to tell another person how they should feel, or think, or be. You are a beautiful person inside and out.
Congratulations on the success you've had in your recovery journey!! That's amazing! I'm so happy for you, Celeste.
Celeste is someone I have so much respect for. They have so much compassion and understanding for the people who had a negative reaction. I also loved the conversation regarding intersectionality! This video will be so useful and beneficial for people to see.
Celeste, never feel bad, guilty or embarrassed for openly expressing who you are; most people aren't half as self aware as you are, you explain your own experience, TS or no TS. Let all the negativity wash right over you, keep your positivity untarnished by any 'sticks & stones' thrown your way(cos the saying is wrong, it should be "name calling hurts like sticks & stones" ) & just keep on smiling, being you & spreading the openness & understanding you show in this video, even to those "haters" out there; you are an amazing person ❤️
So good to see Celeste again! They are so incredibly eloquent, kind and patient. Also congrats on recovery!!!
i remember celeste! im so so happy to see them doing well 💛
Life is complicated. Then add to that a disability of any kind and it becomes extra tricky to navigate. I've always been different and have become socially isolated over the years due to feeling extremely self conscious of my differences. What doesn't help is when other people invalidate my experience with their lack of understanding. Celeste, you spoke beautifully not just for those who identify as non-binary and intersectional but for all of us who are different. I have ADHD, Dysthymia and CPTSD. It's taken me a lifetime of living and research to understand myself more and I'm still learning how to function within my limits. Thanks Chris for the work you do and the way you give people a chance to speak and be heard. It's a most valuable gift we are given here on your channel. xo
Difficult so lets make it more by throwing new nouns out there. Perfect idea
@@CAPTINjacksparrow a bit of an enraged gamer, are we?
I have grown in knowledge and empathy, thank you so much you two…
I love this interview sooo much. thank you for putting this out there and making people who are non-binary with TS (like me) feel seen! the questions you asked were also really insightful and got down to a lot of the dynamics of the world and the TS community : )
Celeste, you are such a beautiful person. You are so articulate about your situation. Kudos and prospers to you!❤️❤️
Just wow. What a bright and intelligent human being. Thank you for your clear expression of the way you identify .You would make an incredible teacher. All the best.
God bless you, Celeste. You are a brave, humble, compassionate, beautiful and kind person.
Great to see you again, Celeste! I appreciate your insight and perspective so much. You are filled with Light and Love!
Celeste is really so graceful and wonderful! As a fellow nonbinary, it makes me happy to see them proudly being themself and discussing the specific experience of being LGBTQ and disabled
Thank You for being you, I am saddened that you felt the need to create another video to explain how you feel about YOURSELF and your choices having T.S., just wish people listened better when they watched your first video,
I think you are beautiful inside and out and I appreciate your braveness, your kindness and the intelligent way in which you communicate your thoughts and feelings.
I wish you a Very Happy Life♡
People need to be less judgemental! No matter how others identify, it is THEIR life, not yours, accept that and move on! Celeste is very, very brave to speak out considering all the haters out there! And thank you Chris for giving this issue a platform! 💜
Edit: So proud of you for your sobriety, Celeste! ❤️👏💙
regardless of how you identify yourself its about how others identify you.
@@richardsmith5803 what?!?
@@richardsmith5803 uhm
@@richardsmith5803
And again, it is THEIR life, not yours, so don't judge something that in no way effects you.
I just watched your first interview with Celeste again last night, and was wondering how they're doing! I'm stoked to see this vid uploaded today!
Yay Celeste is back!!!
Also this is such a great interview. Never change Chris! You are the BEST!! Same to you Celeste 💛🤍💜🖤
Excellent video! Congrats to Celeste for your recovery, including that process of recovery from open heart surgery.
I've had a mechanical mitral valve for 24 years. Trying to keep within the therapeutic zone is still a challenge sometimes.
It's great to get to learn about you & your journey!