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For intersex people -- those born with sex characteristics outside the traditional definitions of female and male -- the stakes to appear "normal" are high. Drawing on her personal experience, Susannah Temko reveals the shame, prejudice and harm faced by the intersex community, as they're forced to conform to a binary understanding of sex that ultimately hinders their health and well-being. She calls on us all to discard outdated notions of biological sex and accept the complexity within humanity.
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I am an older intersex woman, and because I was surgically "normalized" (made male) after birth. Chromosome testing was not known in those days, and when puberty came around, I developed into a female. It took many years until I could hab the initial surgery reversed, and could begin to live my life as the female I am.
I am so happy for you young folks that you have a chance to live your life the way it was meant to be lived.
I think I'm intersex my boobs are so big and I bled while taking a bath today
This must be the best presentation I’ve ever watched. And I totally agree; fix prejudice, not healthy people.
As an intersex person, I am glad about the increased awareness.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist Satan will reveal himself to you on Friday.
I mean they're right in a way, doesn't A Diamond need medical help with their daily life? I was born with a condition too (not intersex) but I need medical help to live a more "normal" life. Sorry if I misunderstood, English isn't my first language.
@@madi2203 no. I don't. Intervention should only happen when there is a *physical* reason or if an individual would want that themselves. Not force it on parents and children to make me "look right" even as they destroy healthy sensation and functioning.
@@a_diamond I didn't mean surgery necessarily, more like medicine. Thank you for replying, this is all very informative.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist you literally have no idea what issues being intersex does or doesn't cause me other than other people's uninformed superstitions. As such, excuse me if I don't take your advice. Please go troll elsewhere.
Yes to more intersex awareness. ❤✨
I can’t grasp the courage it takes to stand up and talk about this....amazing person!
money
@@bananabanana6490 👎🏾 very tacky inappropriate response
The only reason it would take “courage” to do this is because of all of the stigma we as intersex people have been slapped with from the medical professionals and others. There’s nothing really to be courageous about when you’re literally talking about who and what you are and proving that it’s very very normal and that we aren’t the problem we’re literally just like everybody else. She is amazing though
So I am I
Those rights you discuss about not being operated on your genitals without your consent should be given to boys undergoing circumcision.
This is extremely true, as well as in other cultures that practice genital mutilation. In many cultures, women will have their clitoris/clitoral hood removed or partially removed. It's horrible to do anything to someone's body when it is not necessary for a healthy life.
@Purva P You have never heard of religion?
@@nevarran The bible says it's okay to own slaves, should that be legal again? Religion isn't an excuse to harm others.
@Purva P you know how much bacteria can accumulate under the foreskin? Lol that's why people do it.
@@taylorgalilea698 it's so people have less of a chance to have bacteria buildup and diseases on your penis..
What a beautiful, articulate, intelligent woman. How could anybody “dislike” this video.
All this person is doing is asking to be respected and accepted as she is.
Everything she says is wise.
Hitting “dislike” is showing that there are so many people who can’t accept who this person is. The prejudice is heartbreaking.
Thank you for this presentation. It was revelatory and incredibly courageous.
I don't think most people disliking are doing it for prejudiced reasons. I think a good number of those people are doing so because this video is not necessarily under the category of Technology, Entertainment, or Design. If you subscribed to TED for those topics and instead you regularly get biology or other unrelated topics showing up in TED stream it could annoy certain people.
Personally I really liked this video and thought is was informative.
please @ all the biology teachers in the world, play this in your classroom each and every year to each and every class, THIS IS IMPORTANT
At my high school they taught the general principle of this in freshman year biology
I cried at the end, it's really important to accept each other. I didn't know exactly how it is to be intersex. Much love.
And conversely intersex people don't know how to be male or female because we have no experience of being either, yet we are compelled to impersonate what we are not for the continued comfort of the majority, who might if they learn about our existence come to question religious teachings.
What I'm trying to understand is Why the down votes? SMH This is valid and very informative. Can you imagine how difficult this is for people born this way? Empathy is Priceless.
empathy is priceless, because there is a global supply deficit
@ PhantomsDesire : _"Why the down votes?"_ Fear.
@Pavor are 1% of intersex people part of the society?
@Pavor The status of the one isn't relevant to the many? Or, rather, you don't think the methods by which a doctor approaches and treats a patient as well as how said person is treated by their parents, relatives and peers constitutes a number of social situations? "Society has nothing to do with your personal choices or problems" the entire field of sociology would disagree with you. Also, "beholden to all the mess of adaptions" imagine being this anti-individualist. Should we all start wearing gray clothes and reciting passages from doctrine as well?
@Pavor In this context, yes, it clearly does. How a society approaches one issue informs how it will approach another. It's extremely important that these kinds of situations are handled tactfully and by informed parties because the ramifications of not doing so measured in social, economic and cultural costs (degradation of social relationships, economic motivation, development of depression/dysphoria and suicidal tendencies, etc) are considerable and severe. Do you also disagree with mental health awareness campaigns and services? Or perhaps are you against suicide prevention hotlines? Surely someone killing themselves is a "social issue".
It's not a 'personal issue' (as vague as that wording is) because there's no such thing. These decisions are made by the parents and influenced by society, the doctors themselves, medical institutions and academia, etc all while the intersex party themselves are young. You'd still be unreasonable even if you expected them to privately deal with it when they're adults but a significant point brought up in the video is that of operations performed on children and the effects of that. Is a newborn, a two year old or a five year old supposed to stand up and object to 'corrective' surgeries?
There's also the association with gender and sexual issues to think about of which the general population is woefully ignorant about. For some anecdotal evidence of this, plenty of people in this comments section are confused about what intersex actually means and keep confusing it with gender identity. Is it not important to make this distinction and to inform the public about these topics? Or does well over 5% of the population not warrant a mention?
Nice jab at my supposed country (it's not what you're thinking of). Are you one of those "Western civilization is doomed!" types?
It's a biological condition, yet just wait for the trolls to say that it's a choice.
No its not
Im not english so shall I hate gay or not basics on your comment???
@@at-tegreatest3739 Intersex is literally when there are physical differences to the persons genitalia. Suppose you didn't know that?
OllieWille i did know its a mutation
AT-TE Greatest Yes, and a mutation is a biological condition, so what’s your point?
What I have learnt from-
The video: Very good things about the intersex community and that they exist, deserve rights and shouldn’t have surgery to “fix” them without their consent when they’re old enough :)
The comment section: people are dumb asf
Sounds like parents are selfish and making decisions .
Same thing with circumcision they don’t get consent when old enough. Watch change my mind only 2 gender than make a conclusion
Sadly, I'm not sure there is much of an intersex community (or at least - if there is, I can't find them). Given the "1.7%" statistic, facebook groups around intersex have very few members, and the intersex reddit is very quiet.
As usual the comment section is awful, but this talk was great. The intersex/DSD community is horribly misunderstood and under-represented. Everyone deserves bodily autonomy at the very least; non-essential surgery should never be performed on those unable to consent.
A lot of the more recent comments are, thankfully, far from "awful"
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@@ntc1000 Always do
People stop hating!!! If you don't care why did you watch??? This is a very educational video🙂
Martyr4JesusTheChrist everything in this vid is factually correct, teaches ppl about basic biology. Idk what’s your problem
@Karolina Kądzielawa : their problem is unfounded and unbounded fear, same as all bigots.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist Discrediting someone for being younger seems to be your favorite fallacy. Deconstruct the argument of the opposition through logic and reasoning, rather than dismissing them simply because you generalize younger people to be stupid. It’s not a very good look for you.
As another intersex woman-thank you for this video. I have CAIS, found out about it when i was only 13 and i can’t stand when people think it’s something made-up and not something that people are born with. We had no choice
Intersex woman ???
Nathaniel Ace yup, i was born as a woman and labeled as a woman at birth by the doctors, but i have XY chromosomes.
Martyr4JesusTheChrist you are being reported, bye
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist You're quite the self-righteous uninformed person.
Martyr4JesusTheChrist I pray God will forgive you for using his Holy Name to promote bigotry and anti-scientific claims.
What an incredible woman. I don't know much about intersex people but this talk brought me to tears. I too have never felt good enough for various other reasons. I feel inspired after listening to this.
Idk about y’all, but this had me crying in my truck.
It's genuinely sad to see all of the ignorant comments here. It shows not only that most of them didn't finish the video, but that the education system is completely broken.
Thank you for such an interesting talk, I'm so glad we got to see it!
Aw, she is such a lovely person. I have much empathy for her plight. I was not born intersex per se but my earliest memories in this male life was that i used to be a girl and proudly announced that to everyone and gladly feel a part of the group when chatting among women when someone walks by and generalizes the group as ladies( i accept it as a compliment)
you need some therapy
You gender expression is valid and those guys that commented otherwise are assholes. You're doing great :)
Gender is a construct. You acted like you wanted to act, and that is pure and good. And it sounds like you do now, too. I hope some day everyone can feel just as free to take part in groups they feel they belong in.
@John Strickland. Thanks for sharing this here. Have you explored that part about your past? From what I hear from my intersex friends, Some intersex people don't remember the interventions in their childhood. And on the other hand, some transgender girls are deeply convinced in their childhood that they are just girls and then only "learn" later that their body is male and they're supposed to be boys.
@Jack dude, if this is just attention seeking, just like don't pay attention, maybe?
The negative comments are alarming and disturbing to me.
A disturbance in the force
@mozamioo _ yeah that what I'm seeing also.
Gingers are as numerous on Earth as intersex people. I don't really consider that rare. We need to stop being so worried about what's in other people's pants!
There's way more of us than intersex people.
@@EuropeanQoheleth To be fair... red hair is a lot more visible than intersex conditions. We don't tend to advertise that our external genitalia, internal genitalia and/or hormones are "different".
Absolutely love her courage and tone.
How do you know this person was a her???
@@eliopacheco Susannah definitely sounds like it could be a male name..
I agree that "normal" is a fantasy.
We are beautiful, messy people through and through.
That was the most beautiful most true message I’ve ever heard on TH-cam.
Just watched Emily's TED as well. I'm glad to have learned more about intersex individuals. I never thought that something as simple as "M" or "F" on a form would cause many people a difficult and stressful existence. Thank you for opening my eyes.
She is a very brave person. I wish her all the best.
God, the HP comparisons hurt given recent events. ;;
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Michelle Stella 🤨
Thanks for this new information I didn't know about
Martyr4JesusTheChrist what‘s the matter with you?
@@SamSchiffer oh boy, now it all makes sense. Thx
Speaker: I am intersex. Here is what that means.
Audience: Wow I did not know about this. Thank you for sharing.
TH-cam Comments: NOOOOOO YOU CANT DO THAT LALALALA IM NOT LISTENING RULE FROM EXCEPTION ONLY 1.7 PERCENT THATS JUST 120 MILLION PEOPLE BOO HOO
Well, someone is triggered xD
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist So you agree to invalidate that 1.7 percent of human beings then?
Martyr4JesusTheChrist junk science..?????? Are you actually dumb- I cannot deal with people like you. This isn’t some progressive gender what ever. This is a serious biological phenomenon. If you want to be ignorant then fine
Lmao I didn’t see a single person disagree except for in your comment mad for 0 reason
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist did u even watch the video ?! It's a biological condition , it's not a choice . People are born that way . Excussssse you ?! Junk science ?! Don't you dare talk about science that way😠😡. Before you start talking nonsense , get your facts straight . Watch the video and come back with a proper reply other than ignorance.
I hope that people watch this and if they have an intersex child that they give that child time and a choice to make their own gender choice. Also doctors need to stop calling other doctors in to gawk at people who are different for "medical purposes".
as recently as the 80's doctor's were performing "corrective" surgery without informing the parents prior. So little was known.
All the people who disliked did it on accident as they couldn't see through their tears of happiness for this amazing talk!
I wish that was true. So much hate in the comments that it's sad and disturbing 👍
*Everyone* Do what you want and believe in what you want, let people be who they are.
Martyr4JesusTheChrist I’m sorry, but who exactly are you referring to?
@#SlaveLivesMatter disagrees with a fact. Not an argument or debate just a scientific explanation.
@#SlaveLivesMatter true but what problems do you have with this particular case???
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist Have you not LOVE for this person?
For surely, if you walk in his path, then you love this child of God.
What does Christ say?:
"You must love your neighbor as yourself."
" Love your enemies "
"For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?"
"If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same."
I believe in an Ethnostate.
Do not try and fix something that isn’t broken. Go Sue!!! Came for the incredible talk. Stayed for the incredible pink pant suit. 🙌🏼
Would you say that to the trans community?
She sounds so classy... like Michelle Dockery
Susannah, please preach your message
Thank you Susannah for your bravery
Absolutely agree with her about parents that do things without asking us!!
How should they ask an infant?
DevOrenge what if they agree with the decision to have been made, but it would be too late by then
@@nathanielace7534 it can't possibly be too late. Intersex people are telling us they want parents to stop taking decisions on their kids bodies. I think they know better, maybe we should listen to them
Alice Gaiba kids actually do not know better when their brains are no where near developed and decision making processes aren’t even close to fully formed. There’s a reason why there are consent laws. If you encourage 5 year old children to just up and change genders you undermine the whole basis behind consent in the process while also guaranteeing serious mental problems in the future. Real surprising that democratic politicians are pushing these narratives.
@@LeoDeBrowne no one says they have to decide when they are kids. They will decide once they grow up. Again, I'm not saying this. Intersex people are saying that they would have preferred for their parents to wait and let them take the decision as adults
Thank you for this insight. I knew very little about intersexuality, and what I thought I knew, did stem from the idea that a person should be either a male (and look like one) or a female (and look like one). I kind of feel like a ‘broken specimen’ because I have not been able to carry a child. Doctors could not explain why and kind of ‘left it at that’. Knowing what that has done to me, my self image, self esteem, my relationship and later on recognizing how this has influenced me in my well being and my life choices; I cannot begin to understand what life has been like for you, Susannah, and all other people like and unlike you, dealing with intersexuality in any way. To think of how frequently and severely you would to explain that you are you and that you are not faulty, sick, disabled or defective because of that. I am sorry you had to go through all that. I am gratefull you did this ted talk, as it was helpfull to me. I hope to be able to be helpfull and respectfull to someone dealing with this if and when they decide to speak about their experiences with me.
This topic should be shared widely since this applies to most people. I'm pertaining to the Population of intersex. A lot of them are obviously blended with the other categories. There should be a way where they could easily get assistance in order for people to accept them without being judged or criticized. Just like the 2 sides of the coin. We could help them have a positive life. Anyways, I'll watch more vids. I don't have to explain everything hahaha
applies to most people, how?
intersex is not common at all
isna.org/faq/frequency/
r u sarchastic?
@@giampaolomannucci8281 I'm pertaining to the Population of intersex. There are obviously a lot of them, that's why I said "applies to most people". Some people are not even sure if they're part of the intersex category
@@HolyGuardian25 dude I'm pretty sure you don't even know what intersex is
I just gave you a link with percentages of birth defects classified as intersex, it's not common at all
So what does it mean do u have both make and female parts
intersex is different to what is going on with the trans stuff going on today. Of course, somebody born intersex (either both genitalia, or mis-matching chromosomes) should never have surgery to fix them...unless as an adult. How anyone can argue against that is beyond me.
What I understand by trans is people who feel comfortable with a certain effect but got an other.What is the difference their body still feels fine functioning a certain way but got too much of something they don't feel fine.
You're right intersex isn't transgender, but it can through appearance look like transgender. Further to, many of our community are forced to approach transition services to attempt to correct what we can of what surgeons did to use before we could consent to what was done to us. Then there is the other bunch the presenter up there alludes to - those that don't know they're intersex, but may be drawn to transition to answer a discomfort within, where to give an example of my own intersex variation of which I know most, doctors have determined people of my intersex variation ( the most common) are fifty times more likely to transition than XY/XX Binary. So those that would with ignorance abuse the transgender based upon what they believe are perverse choices, could in fact be abusing intersex people who were ' born that way ' for our only sin to be trying to find some modicum of comfort to support continued personal existence in a world designed to exclude us.
agree..., but as far as I see it, people in the past didn’t know it better. It’s good that we learn it now. Every life is valuable. Nothing should be done without the consent of the person himself/herself, itself?
It’s not hard to say themselves or theirselves lol
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist What do you mean?
@@eworitse8936 yes, sorry, english is not my mother tounge
@@laramauss1968 oh terribly sorry I shouldn’t have assumed it was, your English is really really good and go ahead and keep being wonderful 🧡
We love you. All you are like us....the public eye must see you like us not less
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist what is wrong with you. Your God makes deformities all the time.
Martyr4JesusTheChrist lol wtf do you think he was referring to people who didn’t accept intersex people (like you) when he said “we accept you” to intersex people? That’s like if someone said “you’re my son” to their son and someone in the distance yelled “No I’m not!”
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist
Have you not LOVE for this person?
For surely, if you walk in his path, then you love this child of God.
What does Christ say?:
"You must love your neighbor as yourself."
" Love your enemies "
"For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same?"
"If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same."
Every rule has an exception. If you(not we😊) resolve a particular math issue, we hv 2 follow the right rule with consideration to its exception otherwise it will not be right. Every rule has an exception. Intersex is an exception but we should consider them otherwise you will lose your humanity. Again, Every rule has exception.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist you’re trying so hard to seem smart it’s obnoxiously obvious and why don’t you agree that we love them? Didn’t the bible (which all you homophobes just loooove to quote on a daily basis, using that one mistranslated sentence to deserve whether people deserve to live) tell us to love our neighbour as we love ourselves? Or you don’t agree with the bible but you’re a “martyr for Jesus the Christ”. I’m guessing you’re a martyr because you say these hateful, hateful things and not because you’re a Christian
Yes you do have a place in this world Susannah , you are the humanity itself
I'm researching so I can write my intersex character correctly. I am so grateful you spoke on this.
All the differences of life makes this world so beautiful. Why would change that?
Say that to newly parents of a child with birth defects 🤷🏻♂️
@@Irondragon1945 I'm talking about wonderful differences, if you are associating anger from such a statement, ask yourself why.
@@Sound_And_Fury well you didnt say "beautiful differences"
But there is your answer, some differences are not perceived as beautiful.
The sad reality is a lot of people in the medical field don’t take the Hippocratic Oath seriously. They don’t even know what “Do No Harm” really means.
We are are all loved equally by God. You are accepted!
It breaks my heart to think of all the young people who grew up like this and found a refuge in Harry Potter only to find out that J. K. Rowling is such a TERF 😤😡
I don't understand, what does it have to do with intersex people? They're not trans.
@Lei P : You're the snowflake who came here to cry though.
@@madi2203 : Marginalized groups tend to stick together for an obvious reason: bigotry.
@@madi2203 Thank you. Intersex is NOT the same as trans. Some people here are projecting so they can get an extra high off of their virtue signaling.
Same here. My intersex child was a long-time Harry Potter fan. Rowling has very much ruined that.
Thank you. I'm intersexed xxxy. In USA it is extremely difficult to find doctors to help us and others to help us. At 73, I still need to talk and ask for help. Josie
we are just beginning to learn about the categories of human beings. If our instruments and our concepts were refined enough we would be astonished to find that there are as many categories of human being as their are human beings and that each of these human beings is utterly unique and necessary for the well being of the whole. Break one human being and you impair the whole. Why do you suppose the world is so f##ked up today? Look around you. We are breaking one another right and left.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist I suppose you believe the people that God created to be intersex are also "brain washed" and "mutants" as well since they aren't like you? Is that what you believe? If that is so, I pray for you, and for Satan to remove his influence from your heart
@ O C T O D A D D Y : People created god in an attempt to handle their fears.
POG FOR INTERSEX PRIDE!!
Love is for all of us without any exceptions
That sounds just like those empty "motivational quotes" that get spammed all over the internet.
We are not body we are soul(AATMA)
That's why we said my body we don't say I m body.
In HINDUISM we believe that everyone is a soul and our ultimate goal is to attain MOKSHA.
"We all are one"
Small Part of PARMARMA (SUPREME POWER)
That's why we allways taught by our DHARM that "Whole world is a family( वसुधैव कुटुम्बकं )"
Why so many dislikes? Are some people so thick that they think intersex isn't fact? Madness how many people are clueless and ignorant
I’ve spent the last 10 minutes replying to dumb comments
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist English Linguist.....wow, how impressed you are, pity you have no skills at anything useful 🤣
@@David-un4cs Yes, that's what most assume right away
@@eworitse8936 You're wasting your time with that lot. They still think Gay/Trans even after watching the video, not that there's anything wrong with that either, but morons like to stick their noses into other people's business as they have nothing else to do.
@Martyr4JesusTheChrist Nice thesaurus you got there. Also, “on *its own”
I am intersex ❤❤❤
I never knew such ppl existed. Thank you for being so fierce and brave because it's hard to give a talk this personal in front of the world. But it's definitely worth it.
Agreed 100% let healthy people what they want out of live. We need to stop discrimination, as we speak there are allegations of mass hysterectomy being carried without consent in several ICE detention centers. NO ONE HAS THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT DO YOU WITH YOUR BODIES. Let's spread the word and fight discrimination.
I knew someone who had surgery at birth, chosen by "his" parents. Has to take hormones all his life, married, two children and they live a tumultuous existence due to mental issues.... thanks for sharing
This is beautiful. I’m so glad I could watch this
Thank you for this informative talk. You are a beautiful person.
1.7% of population!!
that means around 120 million people!!
thats a huge number!
really??? so many intersex people..
really, there. is a good chance that someone in your school is intersex.
I’ve honestly never even know about intersex people until about a week ago. My friend got me into this game that had this lgbtqia+ avatar. The only one I didn’t know was the i. I know now. It’s weird that the moment that I found out about this things pop up around it. Happened before with other things I didn’t know, then I found out and ever since had random encounters of that thing being brought up.
I love Evolution...We evolve in so many ways...nature is beautiful. There's so many different types of people because in the third trimester, our bodies form and we literally turn, in evolution's clock as our own being...Things arent so black and white...Boy and girl AND the in between. Science is so amazing. We are ALL so unique complicated and gender is just as unique and complicated. Thank you to all the doctors and teachers who are evolving as they go. Science-based, not Faith-based. 🤷🏻♀️ All the turmoil and pain this group of people go through. Religious bigotry is a HUGE reason why these beautiful people are seen as "needing to be fixed". This is such a BEAUTIFUL representation. Thank you for sharing this !!!!! Your Transparency and vulnerability shows just how strong you are. That confidence is 🔥🔥🔥 . Luv this so much!!
Wonderful!
This should be shown to all school children of Jr. High & High School age!!!
Dislikes aren’t near as bad as I figured they’d be. Good for you TH-cam.
It's a fresh video, I'm afraid that it has been promoted to the "woke" types, in lack of another words. Others may come later :-\ But I do hope the dislike count stays low, this is an important subject to raise awareness for.
A big part of that is it's so near the election that the alt-right trolls are too busy in political videos _claiming_ Bernie Sanders betrayed them so they are voting for trump now. At least that's what I'm seeing the last couple of weeks.
Only people who dont have a stereotype can watch this with an open mind and understand what she is actually saying
Videos like this are very important
Topics like this should also be introduced in school syllabus so that the problem of homophobia decreases
Tremendously Strong and Courageous Spirit and She Enlightens with Such Gracious Dignity! Blessings Always to Her!
Let the person themselves decide what to do with their own body. The same logic should apply to genital mutilation.
Love you all intersex people.
Thank you so much for talking about this topic and sharing your personal story. When I was a girl and adolescent, I love watching Wonder Woman, Six Million Dollar Man, Chips and Incredible Hulk. I love also Harry Potter.
A great & much needed talk 👌
A very interesting talk about an important topic to many in my life
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This is a great talk. I dont think its intended for audiences of 4 year olds but great for parents to watch with kids and discuss. So many growing terms for sexuality. This helps so much to clarify the term. Thank you Susannah for youre bravery. What a beautiful person you are.
There's a difference between intersex and transgender. One is objective, the other subjective.
As long as we remember that, intersex people will have the full support of everyone.
How being intersex is objective ?
@@lavishlyenigmatic what if you were born with a male genitalia, while having female chromosomes and your brain wired like a female's. Or some other mix of male/female features.
@@Linguistie you can't have male genitalia and female chromosome at the same time .thats a contradictoion , the fact that you're born with a male genitalia is because you have male chromosome ,otherwise you woudn't have male genital at all.
@@lavishlyenigmatic so what about people who are born with parts of both genitalia, having one or the other (or both) underdeveloped - i.e. hermaphrodites?
@@Linguistie i' haven't seen or heard of anyone being born with both genitalia at the same time or missing any part of genitalia.I rather see it as social construction being propagated by varied theorists as society went along! BEING entitled to my opinion , i would say, you've either male genitalia or female. there is no third gender.
its rather crude way to put it but thats how i think, you're either male or female.
Everything apart from being female or male is, from my perspective ,a socio-cultural construction .
Excellent discussion. Thank you, Susannah. Thank you TED.
Well done Suz. Great talk
why the dislikes? did she ask to be intersex? wtf is wrong with people
Great talk. I learned so much ❤️
She's referring to hermaphrodite. They've always existed in every species. The child of Hermes and Aphrodite was referred to in Greek legend. I've bagged one when hunting deer. It has to be a difficult life to navigate.
That's what I thought. The term Intersex confused me.
she did go there, but I don't know. I think she may be saying there are varying degrees due to hormones?
The mythological term “hermaphrodite” implies that a person is both fully male and fully female. This is a physiologic impossibility. (I looked it up on internet cause I was curious too, it's an outdated term)
Hermaphroditism (full functionality of both male and female genitalia) in humans is impossible. And many intersex people consider that term a slur as it may be associated with mythological beasts and animals like snails and certain fish (that actually are hermaphrodites) so I’d be careful of how to use it.
Oh, and also the story of how Hermaphroditus became part man part woman is really disturbing given that *[TW!]* it happened because a pedophilic rapist nymph forced herself on him when he was a 15 year old boy and fused herself with him against his will.
Ah I love it when TED is TED and is damn good.
When parents raise their children, specifically, while a mother feeds her baby, she does not say, “Later, when you understand things, you’d better remember that I am the one who raised you.” A parent like that would not be normal. If you want to be that way, I suggest you raise a cow and ask it to help you with your work. No parent would request of his or her child, “I have loved you this much, so you have to repay me more than that amount.” You sacrifice for a person you love. You give and give and still feel it is not enough; you want to give and give and keep on giving more. This way of love continuously brings us to feel ultimate value and provides constant hope for the future.
A mother offers her body for her child, and then forgets her investment. There is no mother who remembers how she gave and shared her flesh and blood. While she is nursing her baby, a mother does not keep a record in a notebook, writing, “Today I gave the baby this many milliliters of milk.” She invests and forgets, invests and forgets. The way a mother raises her child is the same way God created all things, by investing and forgetting, investing and forgetting; the two are exactly the same.
There is no end to love. There is no end to parents’ love. If a man and woman devoted themselves to their child, feeding and dressing him or her well, and raising him or her to be successful internally and externally, and then the child died, those parents would never feel they had done all they could for the child. Even after giving something good, it is the way of love to feel it was inadequate. After giving something good, love never boasts. It bows its head and is humble and quiet.
If I learn English influently
I will come to TED
Then I will talk about love
But I am so sorry
I do not speak English very well and I am in other country in the world
You are fluent enough to be understood by other English language speakers.
There are TED or TEDx events all over the world - I hope one rolls by you soon!
@@jaimel88 thank you so for your support
@mozamioo _ I grateful for your wonderful words
@@querelledebrest4978 that is good of you
This is AMAZING. 👏❤️
how
You are an inspiration to all:) a thousand blessings to you;)
Such an inspiring and well delivered talk - learnt something new that helped shape how I see the world, Ted at its best! 👏
Difference should be normal
It is. Many people just refuse to admit how different they are, even to themselves. This is why they dump on others.
@@aylbdrmadison1051 Another reason for attacking others is mental insecurity.
Aware towards body and understanding.
I am surprised by all these comments saying this is a wonderful brilliant speech. It was actually rubbish. She didnt actually really say anything, other than she wants the right to choose and that it is hard being her. She gave almost no detail whatsoever. What does she actually want? I.e choose what? How was she actually born? Just saying intersex tells us nothing
At 2:35 she tells the features that make her intersexual.
Btw I think she's been pretty explicit: she is demanding awareness so that no doctor/parent will chose to mutilate/operate an healthy child that is born intersex on the basis of a deliberate choice of what "normality" could be to society.
Very informative, thank you so much for sharing your inspiring story.
I have a question for the intersex peeps here or friends of. I'm cherry picking one bit out of the whole message because I have no questions about the rest of her talk.
Regarding choosing "m/f" on a (non medical) form, or being labelled "transgender", how is that an issue? Wouldn't she just write "female"? Unless she's non-binary, in which case that would be the reason she can't pick one (in a binary uninformed world where m/f = m/w)
And if she'd been misgendered at birth, why not choose the title "transgender" to correct the gender she's registered under?
I understand the rest of the issues she raised, and I understand the issues my intersex friends tell me about. I understand that the issue I'm asking about is important, purely because she said that it is and, well, she *knows*.
I just, as a non intersex, don't know why.
(assuming her pronouns are "she/her", she never said so I'm making assumptions)
To me it seems like it's a problem because... she isn't transgender. She doesn't want to be labelled transgender when she isn't. She's intersex. It feels dismissive and ignorant towards both trans and intersex people.
@ailaG : Because she understands that marginalizing certain groups (such as her own) is wrong, and that for this to end, people with courage and strength must step up and demand equal rights.
I have an intersex condition and was 'assigned male at birth' - based on the outwards appearance of my body, the doctors decided I was on the male side, and this was entered on my birth certificate.
However my identity reflects my biology - I feel somewhere between male and female. However, as I understand it most people with intersex conditions are fine with the gender assigned by the medical professionals attending their birth. That said, I've not chatted with many other intersex people about it - in everyday life, intersex symptoms are not visible, and our genitalia, hormones and karyotype don't tend to come up in casual conversation - so we probably pass each other frequently and have no idea.
Very brave, she is a woman but how we define what a woman or man is can not be drawn from our genitalia.
She's lived her whole life as a woman, without any discrimination or bias, and suddenly an enraged radical (you can hear it in her voice).
Stop hating people because they have their own subjective perspective that might not be your rare and minority experience!!! This is why we live in a free society...to voice our perspective and negotiate from our subjective perspectives to respect each other, and come to a consensus, and COMMON GOOD, that respects each other (including the majority)!!!
clearly you didnt actually listen to what she said, and what you can hear in her voice is not radicalism, its nervousnes, its the sheer terror of trying to articulate clearly and keep control. She isnt hating anyone - there is NOT ONE MOMENT in that speech where she articulates that or says that - and if you actually listened, at the end she celebrated not just her condition but the beauty of human compassion - learn to listen
Listening
Wow! Great talk
Beautiful talk!
Can't stop my tears..
I wish you mentioned that being operated after birth was with good intentions from parents and doctors. They just thought it was the right thing so that the child does not blame them later. I feel for the parents
What is the right person/world, and what is it like?
What is right and what is wrong?
I'd say false promises of happiness when in fact things will hurt you in the long run are wrong.
There, have a quick definition.
totally agree! a huge hug to you ❤
Is anyone here specializing in Medicine? I have a few questions that need clarification like Is intersex a genetic disorder? because I looked online there are several sources that say so and is it all disorder that is a disease? I have a friend who thinks Intersex is a disease because it's a disorder but I don't know how to explain it to him and he starts saying I'm paranoid.
Well done! Thank you for sharing a light on this subject.