A few notes: - Before anyone asks, I triple checked with friends fluent in the language for the alien thing, because I had considered the possibility that Google Translate might have been translating alien in the context of being a foreigner (which reads as 外国人), but they confirmed that both the game and the guide book refer to her with 宇宙人, which is the term used when referring to extraterrestrials/beings from outer space (You can see this dialogue in QND proper if you pause at 21:52). So yeah, Saki's an alien. Who knew? - Before 1:13, there's supposed to be a line that says "My favorite though, is when characters are taken from games so far removed from fighting games, or genres with any combat to speak of in general, and made to work in a fighter." Not sure how that got omitted from the final video render, sorry! - The plasma ball corner infinite is character dependent. For example, it doesn't work on Jun the Swan for whatever reason; she doesn't take as much hitstun from the plasma ball, giving her a gap to escape with a pushblock. - Some more Ultraseven references in Saki's lore, courtesy of @ShokoArc She's a full on Ultraseven reference Her ending takes heavy cues from ultraseven's finale, both of them revealing to be aliens to a loved one, explaining their love for earth and their people and why they both have limited time before leaving earth, even the Silhouette with the flashy Backdrop is taken from the scene where Dan Moroboshi reveals that he's Ultraman to Anne from the ultraguard It might be a stretch but I like to think the super with the special ammo might be a reference to the fight with King Joe, an almost indestructible Robot that had to be shot with a special round of ammo to open his super defensive hide in order to be defeated
I cant come to bed babe, TheSeventhForce has uploaded a video about a character I know nothing about from a game I've never heard of, put into the one VS. Series game i never played.
I would 100% watch an anime based on Saki's game, I'm not even kidding. The other ladies listening to Saki's story in disbelief during her ending is funny to me because it's not like any of them aren't doing crazy shit on a weekly basis. Chun-li's had regular run-ins with a megalomaniacal, body-swapping terrorist who glows in the dark, and has died at least twice, and she's the most normal one there. I also love how Doronjo's the only one not in civilian clothes just because.
So this character’s origin game is basically just Trivial Pursuit mixed a much tamer HuniePop with a dash of Final Fantasy plot? This is why the gentrification of the AAA gaming industry stings me so because if an indie game released now with that premise I’d wishlist it IMMEDIATELY
She's a full on Ultraseven reference Her ending takes heavy cues from ultraseven's finale, both of them revealing to be aliens to a loved one, explaining their love for earth and their people and why they both have limited time before leaving earth, even the Silhouette with the flashy Backdrop is taken from the scene where Dan Moroboshi reveals that he's Ultraman to Anne from the ultraguard It might be a stretch but I like to think the super with the special ammo might be a reference to the fight with King Joe, an almost indestructible Robot that had to be shot with a special round of ammo to open his super defensive hide in order to be defeated
I always like it when Capcom throws in characters that we wouldn’t expect in a fighting game. It sucks that we didn't get such variety in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite. Hopefully the next Capcom Crossover fighting game has other characters that people wouldn’t expect, like a character from El Dorado Gate, Metal Walker, or even some of Capcom's newer IPs like Kunitsu-Gami. Great video!
This is why I love TvC so much: So many deep cuts on the roster that don't seem TOO far-fetched. Saki is what I consider the prime example of that description. If the Vs Series never comes back then we should have a 3v3 fighter with indie game characters as a spiritual successor. Get the guys behind that UMvC3 Community Edition mod on-board and I'll pre-order it ASAP!
Yes! My main from TvC finally represented! To be honest, I've REALLY been wanting to play Quiz Nanario Dreams just to explore Saki's origins and other characters tied with her, and it's why it's one of the games from Capcom I'd like an English translation of the most, even if I know it's not likely. So this video is VERY appreciated for teaching everyone more about Saki and giving her the respect she deserves. Actually, talking about ALL the Capcom assists in general here was icing on the cake, because Capcom's lineup of characters feel like they're getting as much respect even for their limited time here, and any dive into game history is appreciated in my eyes.
I always knew I wanted to talk about the MvC1 assists someday, but wasn't sure if I wanted to dedicate an entire video to it. Splitting them and putting the Capcom assists with Saki just felt like the most fitting way to go about it!
The closest thing to a translation of Quiz Nanario Dreams is an English fan translated episode of Game Center CX, since they also translated whatever game scenes, questions or cutscene, appeared on screen.
I know she only appeared in two games but huge shoutouts to the dude who made Saki playable in the mugen engine with most of her tools from TvC The plot twist of her being an alien is something I didn't expect tbh. Maybe one day someone will mod her into UMVC3. Part of me hoped she appeared in MvC Infinite
Saki Omokane, and Quiz Nanairo Dreams by extension, are really underrated and it's a shame we never got to play the game she came from in the West. I really like the fact that Capcom choose this obscure character for TvC of all things (and even others who didn't make the cut). This is why Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is lowkey my favorite Capcom vs. game series of the bunch lol. If Capcom ever makes another Capcom vs. game, I hope they bring her back since she is a really cool character...and also because a port or let alone a sequel are rather unlikely lmao. Btw pretty great video and I wasn't expecting to learn that Saki was an Alien all along too lmfao. Clearly, this part of her lore is totally missing from the english informations available about the character. Nice to see stuff like that being digged up by passionate gamers like you !
I believe this choice was because just as TVC and QND got very distincted crown in East. Quiz Games, got some ironically great public in Japan. Unfortunalety, this reality is not the same for other regions. But, Saki in TVCUAS might be a chance to adapt QND to other genre. Maybe Reboot the series. ...y'know!
@@viewtifuljoe100 Yeah honestly this is why I like Tatsunoko vs. Capcom better than other vs. series because they actually put obscure characters from both Capcom & Tatsunoko in the game, even from series/animes that didn't got out of Japan, and considered even more Obscure characters like Nurse Witch Komugi or Princess Tiara that barely didn't make it. Tbh I think not having a game released in your region is really hard for anything to have a cult following so this doesn't surprise me. As for a follow up to Quiz Nanairo Dreams, since QND appeared in the latest Capcom Poll, my coping brain is telling me that maybe just maybe they will put that game in a Collection or something along those lines. For an highly hypothetical Remake or a Sequel, they could do a Quiz/Dating Sim with Western related questions this time or a game where you fight Kaijus with Saki I don't know lol. Having anything at all from this series would be incredible.
@@Metal0maniac98 Relatively my mind completly goes out-of-blue to conclude solutions to such nish-barraged games. All I got about Nanairo Dreams was wondering just a multi-mini-games related Adventure Life Simulation Graphic Novel. (sigh) When the Player Character makes somes quests in First Person Vision in order to get the Crystal Gems from Womens' souls as final objective, and Dating your favorite woman in the end just like original game. Making this stories being crossed between the quests. Just like, fighting Kaijus with Saki's weapons, Helping Kumiko's swimming by QTE functions, Exorcing Momoko's possession by Aim'n Shot actions, Investigate Emi's pictures as evidences(Just like Ace Attoney), Monting Charllote's Inventings by Puzzle Sections, or even Fighting Godiver(Demon Lord) to Shot'em up 3D functions saving Megumi in the end. Well, that's all the limit for my imagination in favor to Save Nanairo Dreams for West. Ummmm, I hope that it won't be confused to explain.
@@viewtifuljoe100 I mean sometimes you need to reinvent something to save a series. In this case, I think it's more safe to not change anything since it's really niche to begin with. People needs to see what this series is about first. Save the potential changes for a Saki Kaiju slaying spin off game or something lol. If it sticks not only you saved QND but also you have a new spin off series as well..and we already saw that a spin off series can really work by itself like Persona.
@@Metal0maniac98 Yeah. It's a point! But not a garantee. In my country there's a quote to it: "A raystorm doesn't goes down in the same place." It's hard to see Quiz Games being top selled in this cruel recent Game Marketing. In minor cases, Reboot series is an only solution.
You know, you could definitely make a obscure characters in crossover fighting games video… in the same vein as your recent video about strange guest characters
@@TheSeventhForce you know that is the second time i got a reply from you saying that... if i got a penny each time you did that i would have 2 pennies but its weird it happened twice
Did some real investigative journalism on this one. I didn't expect there to be much and was absolutely floored at what you pulled, the secret top tier has secret lore and I kinda appreciate her a bit more when I'm not mad at being looped to death
Even though stumbling upon it was accidental, it was too weird to not dig deeper on it. And yeah, getting worked by a Saki player that knows what they're doing ain't fun lol
Seemingly normal teenage girls who moonlights as a enforcer of the extraordinary seems to be a popular trope with the JP since the 90's, it seems. But Saki, moreso than the other girls from her game sounds like she could be the leading girl of a late 90's-early 00's light novel. But that's what I like about crossovers: You'd find a character you never heard of, do your homework and get into their home series if you found it appealing.
5:25 Before Yoko Honna, Saki was popular in past Games by Michiyo Neya's Voice(Where the japanese's favorite line for her in game "Leave it to me" were used in MVC1). She provided to be the VA of Saki in Original Game, but... Just like others VAs, her list a little bit extensive. Beyond Saki, she voiced Charllote, Kumiko Ezaki and Linz Pestel the Youkai in the same Game. But it's not first time this happens to Michiko. In Plasma Sword, She voiced Rain and Kaede. In Tech Romancer, Diana-17. In Street Fighter Alpha 3, Rose. And(Ahem), we can't forget the Fandom's Darling, Hsienko from Darkstalkers. Who appeared also in Super Gem Fighter and Puzzle Fighter. Her Voice reached outta anyone's Imagination. Note 2: In particular I believe that the solution for Nanairo Dreams Series to sell on the Globe is Reboot game in an Puzzle form just like similar to Ace Attorney. Since that quiz games is not common selled on the West;
Man, I’m surprised Hauzer wasn’t considered for a playable Giant Character in TvC. He’s appeared in at least two endings and was playable in a previous Capcom crossover fighter. 🤔
Ah, Red Earth (or Warzard outside the US)...one of the most unique fighting games ever...it's basically a boss rush (Like Apoc. or Onslaught) with exp. levels and only 4 playable characters...
Capcom has so many colorful and unique obscure characters that are sadly underuse which sucks because as much as I love Capcom I gotta admit they kind of been playing it safe for the past few years but I’m hoping that both Pragmata and Kunitsu-Gami become a huge success for Capcom and maybe Capcom won’t be so afraid of creating new IPs.
Yeah, even though I'm a fan of the series they've been pushing lately (helps the the games have largely been objectively great too), it's pretty slim pickings if you're not a fan of or are just tired of Street Fighter, Resident Evil or Monster Hunter. We get the occasional bone every now and then like Ghosts & Goblins Resurrection, but still. Hopefully Kunitsu-Gami is a sign that they still have some new IPs left in them.
@@TheSeventhForce You could also argue that SEGA does the same thing with their franchises and while that’s definitely true to some degree at least when they when they left the console business they were confident enough to created new IPs like Super Monkey Ball, Yakuza, Valkyria Chronicles and while not own by SEGA they are the owns responsible for helping with Platinum for creating the Bayonetta series. Though I wouldn’t mind seeing SEGA attempting to revive a good chuck of their IPs since I’m of kind of sick of how over reliant SEGA has become with Sonic since I’m not really a Sonic fan and really only care about their other IPs since I find them interesting compared to Sonic.
Sega seems to be doing just that, given their announcements last year for Shinobi, Golden Axe, Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio. And they've been licensing out their IP recently with okay to great results these last few years (Panzer Dragoon/House of the Dead/Alex Kidd remakes, Streets of Rage 4, etc.), so thankfully they have more going on than just Sonic.
@@maxtubb8560 For Sega they have been doing that for a while even before that big announcement earlier this year. Even if outsourced sometimes. Streets of Rage 4, Space Channel 5 VR, Shin Sakura Wars, Samba de Amigo Party Central, Wonder Boy remakes, Valkyria Chronicles 4, i hesitate to have called Monkey Ball dormant but that's gotten 2 remakes and a new game coming this month. They been cooking, just folks not paying much attention for some reason
Im pretty sure Im not the only person who would like Capcom to add more deep cut and obscure properties they own to other crossover games. Heck, im shocked when MvCI came by with literal stones as its mechanic yet not a single Power Stone character is playable.
Making me want to play Tatsunoko vs real bad now I love how her ending is like "Saki, if you don't want to tell us how you guys met, you can just tell us that. You don't have to make up BS"
Jackie Chan Adventures, Xenoblade X and Tatsunoko vs Capcom having zero degrees of separation was not something I expected to learn today, but that insane lore drop about her origin was even wilder! I absolutely love when ultra deep cut characters like this end up in a crossover game, and I do wonder if Capcom's history with quiz games has anything to do with the quiz mini game in Megaman Legends 2?
I honestly think the game's obscurity combined with it never being localized (and highly unlikely to ever get a fan translation) just kept pretty much anyone outside of anyone that hadn't already played it to dig in to the plot stuff. Not even places like Hardcoregaming101 made mention of it or anything.
FUN FACT: Yoko Honna (Saki's VA in TVC) also voiced Nagisa/Cure Black in the original Futari wa PreCure, the second season, the recently Otona PreCure adult spin-off and countless crossover appearances from that of the series. It's basically Sailor Moon meets Power Rangers where magical girls had a group colored wearing heroines and she/they can throw punches on monsters aside using powers. You may know in the west in Glitter Force, but that changes in the 2020s since PreCure becomes well known in the West thanks to streaming platforms.
Wouldn't It Be Funny If Japan Got US Characters Who never left the United States they probably never heard of Mad Jack The Pirate or Ralph from Secret Files Of The Spy Dogs not Marvel Comics but In The Disney Vault following the buyout of Fox Family Worldwide In 2001 by Disney
Possibly a character Japan has actually gotten, (I'm not sure) but if they put in Jack Skellington just because Capcom made a DMC-like game for it on PS2 would be absolutely insane.
Just imagine they put Sophia in the game if they do another vs game in Japan she's she's very popular she had her own anime figure she made it into a popularity contest surprised that everybody
I am actually working on a Capcom Vs. Game on Mungen and I am happy to say that I adore Saki's Sprite work on the engine. I am glad to know a little bit more about her today, and see if I can apply some of this move properties. Great job with the video
For a while I have been wondering if SEGA were to one day make their own crossover fighter I have been if the Harrier from Space Harrier was playable fighter what would his move set be like and after seeing Saki in TvC I imagine SEGA could just copy some of her move set while also throwing in some original move sets in their as well.
I have a good anecdote of playing Quiz Nanairo Dreams with a friend after we got curios about Saki's character after playing a bit of Tatsunoko Vs Capcom. My friend was studying japanese at the time so he could understand a few questions and I was choosing options randomly funny thing is my friend was doing good with the other girls except Saki meanwhile I was the opposite and was getting correct answers and affection points only on Saki xD We remember fondly that one question about the Olympics contained Japan as one of the answers and we instantly choose that one cause of The Simpsons meme of the episode when they travel to Japan and have to participate in a contest... Sadl it was wrong.
You know with the announcement of Marvel vs Capcom Legacy Collection and the possibility of a new MVC game happening one thing I want to see happen in a hypothetical MVC 4 is to have more obscure characters one of my biggest complaints with Infinite was the lack of obscure characters on the roster because Capcom has so many unique obscure characters and while I’m not a comic book fan Marvel also has good obscure that could be really fun additions to a hypothetical MVC 4.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again but the obscure/niche characters in crossover games I tend to find the most interesting picks because it always sparks my interest to research their game or even try out the game series. I remember playing SSBB (which was my first Smash Bros game) and I remember looking at the roster and seeing these obscure Nintendo characters that I have never heard of until brawl particularly characters like Ness, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers and Marth where characters in the Smash Bros series that peaked my interest in trying out the game series they came from.
This is why I love you videos. The insane amount of research you put into such niche and trivial history of Capcom and so forth. Thanks to you, I learned a lot about Saki. Great job!
TH-cam recommended this video to me on he side. I didn't think it would be anything special, but I'm surprised. I got a lot of good information in this video I wouldn't have been able to get otherwise. You just got a new subscriber.
Excelllent video, but you missed one detail that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere in the comments: The kid who appears on screen at 23:25 is also in TvC as a cameo in Morrigan's ending!
Kenichi Ueda's the graphic designer I cite in regards to her initial design in the video, but if I'm not mistaken, Daigo Ikeno did a lot of the concept and promo art for the game.
Really appreciate you going over her character as a whole, even the translation parts. Nice to main someone you know more about than before. Would love to see you do the same for Karas. His moves are so awesome that I wanna know more about him too
i never expected this fighting game guide to have a full plot twist..... holy SHIT THESE VIDEOS ARE EXCELLENT, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THIS SERIES ALIVE ^^
Another banger. It’s fun learning about the source material for these characters thru your videos cause you always provide some great insight, and that plot twist is wild.
Actually checked her game out a couple years ago cause i was always curious about her. Finding out made her inclusion here even more baffling but in the best way possible. Though if it were up to me, i would've gone with Linz for some QNID love. Just like her design more and shes an antagonist (yeah the game has one) so itd have been cool.
Her animated ending from the vanilla version of Tatsunoko vs Capcom... Quiz Nanairo Dreams in a nutshell in her storytelling (not to mention the crystals and the fairy reference... would have been funnier if they had showed the Demon King as well, a wasted chance, but not a big deal), can't help but to giggle with a laugh on that one now that I can understand with the subtitles what was the talk and why the other girls had a "what the heck?" expression. Funny enough, when I got to play the updated version that DID come outside Japan, Saki was the first character I picked as I got my mind blown that she had the promotion from assist character in MVC1 into a playable fighter in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, and that made me seek out her origins, but due to language barrier it was out of question in terms of understanding what was going on in the Quiz game, took until this one to finally complete that part of my curiosity.
@@TheSeventhForce I have mixed feelings on the announcement because on one hand I’m a huge fan of the Yakuza series and it’s probably one of my favorite Video Game franchises of all time but on the other hand I’m genuinely not a fan of if movies and TV shows based on Video Games since I feel like they only exist so that video game get more respect an artform when Video Games and Hollywood need to start acting more like themselves and less like each other.
My main girl from TvC. Love that game, love the character, but she's always been a bit of a mystery to my American brain. Thanks for making this video sharing information about her background and characteristics! After all the hours I spent labbing this character, I didn't have a single clue she was an alien lol. Some fun facts to share based on her appearance in TvC to go with the video! - She has a corner infinite with certain high hitstun assist and her unblockable Armor Piercing Bullet. You alluded towards something similar in the video, but the assist+combo variants are just barely meter positive, meaning you can truly infinite combo until your opponent is KO'd (or the Megacrash). - The H version of her special ammo load is indeed an overhead if fired from 5H or the air, but if you fire it crouching (2H), it's a low! That means it can be an unreactable 50/50 up close. - OTGs are rare, and usually weak in this game. Her 2H crouching fire is fairly unique as it's a full-screen, on-demand OTG. - While she is a zoner, hilariously one of her best strats is to corner someone and spam jM over and over again. It's a downwards angled kick with incredible frame data and a generous hitbox, making it downright spammable in pressure. - She and Megaman are the only characters in the game with a projectile mapped to their H buttons.
I actually had a section of the video scripted out in previous drafts about that jumping medium, but ended up cutting it in favor of going more in depth on the heavy projectile. It's definitely absurdly good though yeah lol
Pretty funny that her alt color referencing the Ultra Guard from UltraSeven and then in her actual game she has a reference to the iconic final episode of UltraSeven. The whole bright light in the background and yea even her whole character seems like an UltraSeven reference.
27:26 Doronjo, why are you still wearing your villain outfit? Saki is a really cool character to me, just like Nick she comes from a game where there's no combat to speak of, but instead of making the mechanics from the series work in a fighting game, they just came up mostly original stuff, and I think that's neat, and that she's such an obscure character makes it even better, not my favorite zoner, (That goes to Kuja from Dissidia) but I still hope we either get her back, or get another one of these obscure quiz characters in possibly a new Vs game. I also remember you doing a sort of quiz time segment in one of your older videos; While using Nanairo Dreams as a template, I don't remember which vid it was, but I know the question was "Which of these teams has not won a tournament" (Which tournament I can't remember) it was neat but I 100% understand why you didn't bring it back after the first try. Edit: That was also certainly a revelation lol.
Oh yeah, I did that for the Ryu video! Only reason why I haven't done another one yet is because I lost the assets I made for that segment in a hard drive crash not too long after that video released. I do plan on recreating it so I can do more of those trivia sections every now and then to break up the pacing in some of the longer videos.
@@TheSeventhForce Ahh I see, well I have no problem with bringing it back either, in fact if you want, I can shoot some trivia question ideas once I get back from trying to get my PS2 fixed. (The memory card slot isn't working properly, even if it still kinda works, gotta prop it up to do that though)
@@TheSeventhForce Sounds good, granted you would have to reply to this comment again (Or another one of mine) because I don't have discord or whatever lol.
Nah. Counting bosses playable and unplayable, there's 157 characters to cover between the Capcom developed crossover fighters (MvC/CvS & TvC) and I've only covered 42 so far. I'm only just getting started :)
A few notes:
- Before anyone asks, I triple checked with friends fluent in the language for the alien thing, because I had considered the possibility that Google Translate might have been translating alien in the context of being a foreigner (which reads as 外国人), but they confirmed that both the game and the guide book refer to her with 宇宙人, which is the term used when referring to extraterrestrials/beings from outer space (You can see this dialogue in QND proper if you pause at 21:52). So yeah, Saki's an alien. Who knew?
- Before 1:13, there's supposed to be a line that says "My favorite though, is when characters are taken from games so far removed from fighting games, or genres with any combat to speak of in general, and made to work in a fighter." Not sure how that got omitted from the final video render, sorry!
- The plasma ball corner infinite is character dependent. For example, it doesn't work on Jun the Swan for whatever reason; she doesn't take as much hitstun from the plasma ball, giving her a gap to escape with a pushblock.
- Some more Ultraseven references in Saki's lore, courtesy of @ShokoArc
She's a full on Ultraseven reference
Her ending takes heavy cues from ultraseven's finale, both of them revealing to be aliens to a loved one, explaining their love for earth and their people and why they both have limited time before leaving earth, even the Silhouette with the flashy Backdrop is taken from the scene where Dan Moroboshi reveals that he's Ultraman to Anne from the ultraguard
It might be a stretch but I like to think the super with the special ammo might be a reference to the fight with King Joe, an almost indestructible Robot that had to be shot with a special round of ammo to open his super defensive hide in order to be defeated
I cant come to bed babe, TheSeventhForce has uploaded a video about a character I know nothing about from a game I've never heard of, put into the one VS. Series game i never played.
Play the game. Good time.
I thought a Kaiju fighting girl with twist She's just astounding
Now this props to saki
Lowkey, Saki would probably fit in nicely with Exoprimal lol
You talked about Yoko Honna without mentioning about Nagisa Misumi? Dude, sit down and watch Pretty Cure.
I would 100% watch an anime based on Saki's game, I'm not even kidding.
The other ladies listening to Saki's story in disbelief during her ending is funny to me because it's not like any of them aren't doing crazy shit on a weekly basis. Chun-li's had regular run-ins with a megalomaniacal, body-swapping terrorist who glows in the dark, and has died at least twice, and she's the most normal one there. I also love how Doronjo's the only one not in civilian clothes just because.
It's doubly funny since Doronjo's had a ton of civilian outfits in Yatterman lol
Considering the influx of romance / harem anime, I wouldn't mind.
So this character’s origin game is basically just Trivial Pursuit mixed a much tamer HuniePop with a dash of Final Fantasy plot?
This is why the gentrification of the AAA gaming industry stings me so because if an indie game released now with that premise I’d wishlist it IMMEDIATELY
Now that you mention it, it does seem like the kind of niche that could take off in the indie space if handled right.
@@TheSeventhForce The Monster Prom games prove that there *is* potential for mashing up visual novels/dating sims with other genres
Just goes to show that Capcom even in its earlier days were still pretty innovative. 😌
She's a full on Ultraseven reference
Her ending takes heavy cues from ultraseven's finale, both of them revealing to be aliens to a loved one, explaining their love for earth and their people and why they both have limited time before leaving earth, even the Silhouette with the flashy Backdrop is taken from the scene where Dan Moroboshi reveals that he's Ultraman to Anne from the ultraguard
It might be a stretch but I like to think the super with the special ammo might be a reference to the fight with King Joe, an almost indestructible Robot that had to be shot with a special round of ammo to open his super defensive hide in order to be defeated
Well damn, that seems pretty cut and dry! Amazing stuff, thanks for the additional insight! (This video seems a little inadequate now, lol)
The moment I saw the super at 21:09 I knew they were going all in on the Ultraseven reference with her, so I'm glad it's not just my imagination.
I always like it when Capcom throws in characters that we wouldn’t expect in a fighting game. It sucks that we didn't get such variety in Marvel vs Capcom Infinite. Hopefully the next Capcom Crossover fighting game has other characters that people wouldn’t expect, like a character from El Dorado Gate, Metal Walker, or even some of Capcom's newer IPs like Kunitsu-Gami.
Great video!
She'd be at home in UMVC3 Community Edition.
This is why I love TvC so much: So many deep cuts on the roster that don't seem TOO far-fetched. Saki is what I consider the prime example of that description.
If the Vs Series never comes back then we should have a 3v3 fighter with indie game characters as a spiritual successor. Get the guys behind that UMvC3 Community Edition mod on-board and I'll pre-order it ASAP!
you know what
i wanna make a crossover indie fighter as well for quite some time
@@OGpackirby Great minds think alike, I suppose.
Yes! My main from TvC finally represented! To be honest, I've REALLY been wanting to play Quiz Nanario Dreams just to explore Saki's origins and other characters tied with her, and it's why it's one of the games from Capcom I'd like an English translation of the most, even if I know it's not likely. So this video is VERY appreciated for teaching everyone more about Saki and giving her the respect she deserves. Actually, talking about ALL the Capcom assists in general here was icing on the cake, because Capcom's lineup of characters feel like they're getting as much respect even for their limited time here, and any dive into game history is appreciated in my eyes.
I always knew I wanted to talk about the MvC1 assists someday, but wasn't sure if I wanted to dedicate an entire video to it. Splitting them and putting the Capcom assists with Saki just felt like the most fitting way to go about it!
The closest thing to a translation of Quiz Nanario Dreams is an English fan translated episode of Game Center CX, since they also translated whatever game scenes, questions or cutscene, appeared on screen.
I know she only appeared in two games but huge shoutouts to the dude who made Saki playable in the mugen engine with most of her tools from TvC
The plot twist of her being an alien is something I didn't expect tbh. Maybe one day someone will mod her into UMVC3. Part of me hoped she appeared in MvC Infinite
I will never not be amazed at what people have been able to do with mugen in the last decade or so, it's seriously impressive stuff.
Saki Omokane, and Quiz Nanairo Dreams by extension, are really underrated and it's a shame we never got to play the game she came from in the West. I really like the fact that Capcom choose this obscure character for TvC of all things (and even others who didn't make the cut). This is why Tatsunoko vs. Capcom is lowkey my favorite Capcom vs. game series of the bunch lol.
If Capcom ever makes another Capcom vs. game, I hope they bring her back since she is a really cool character...and also because a port or let alone a sequel are rather unlikely lmao.
Btw pretty great video and I wasn't expecting to learn that Saki was an Alien all along too lmfao. Clearly, this part of her lore is totally missing from the english informations available about the character. Nice to see stuff like that being digged up by passionate gamers like you !
I believe this choice was because just as TVC and QND got very distincted crown in East.
Quiz Games, got some ironically great public in Japan.
Unfortunalety, this reality is not the same for other regions.
But, Saki in TVCUAS might be a chance to adapt QND to other genre.
Maybe Reboot the series.
...y'know!
@@viewtifuljoe100 Yeah honestly this is why I like Tatsunoko vs. Capcom better than other vs. series because they actually put obscure characters from both Capcom & Tatsunoko in the game, even from series/animes that didn't got out of Japan, and considered even more Obscure characters like Nurse Witch Komugi or Princess Tiara that barely didn't make it.
Tbh I think not having a game released in your region is really hard for anything to have a cult following so this doesn't surprise me.
As for a follow up to Quiz Nanairo Dreams, since QND appeared in the latest Capcom Poll, my coping brain is telling me that maybe just maybe they will put that game in a Collection or something along those lines.
For an highly hypothetical Remake or a Sequel, they could do a Quiz/Dating Sim with Western related questions this time or a game where you fight Kaijus with Saki I don't know lol.
Having anything at all from this series would be incredible.
@@Metal0maniac98 Relatively my mind completly goes out-of-blue to conclude solutions to such nish-barraged games.
All I got about Nanairo Dreams was wondering just a multi-mini-games related Adventure Life Simulation Graphic Novel. (sigh)
When the Player Character makes somes quests in First Person Vision in order to get the Crystal Gems from Womens' souls as final objective, and Dating your favorite woman in the end just like original game.
Making this stories being crossed between the quests.
Just like, fighting Kaijus with Saki's weapons, Helping Kumiko's swimming by QTE functions, Exorcing Momoko's possession by Aim'n Shot actions, Investigate Emi's pictures as evidences(Just like Ace Attoney), Monting Charllote's Inventings by Puzzle Sections, or even Fighting Godiver(Demon Lord) to Shot'em up 3D functions saving Megumi in the end.
Well, that's all the limit for my imagination in favor to Save Nanairo Dreams for West.
Ummmm, I hope that it won't be confused to explain.
@@viewtifuljoe100 I mean sometimes you need to reinvent something to save a series. In this case, I think it's more safe to not change anything since it's really niche to begin with.
People needs to see what this series is about first. Save the potential changes for a Saki Kaiju slaying spin off game or something lol. If it sticks not only you saved QND but also you have a new spin off series as well..and we already saw that a spin off series can really work by itself like Persona.
@@Metal0maniac98 Yeah.
It's a point!
But not a garantee.
In my country there's a quote to it:
"A raystorm doesn't goes down in the same place."
It's hard to see Quiz Games being top selled in this cruel recent Game Marketing.
In minor cases, Reboot series is an only solution.
Tatsunoko vs capcom was so good it deserves a re-release ^_^
Sadly with the sheer amount of licensing it required, it's probably impossible at this point. But I agree it's deserving one.
You know, you could definitely make a obscure characters in crossover fighting games video… in the same vein as your recent video about strange guest characters
Now there's an idea!
@@TheSeventhForce you know that is the second time i got a reply from you saying that...
if i got a penny each time you did that i would have 2 pennies but its weird it happened twice
I wonder why Michelle Heart was misspelled.
Great video dude.
Did some real investigative journalism on this one. I didn't expect there to be much and was absolutely floored at what you pulled, the secret top tier has secret lore and I kinda appreciate her a bit more when I'm not mad at being looped to death
Even though stumbling upon it was accidental, it was too weird to not dig deeper on it. And yeah, getting worked by a Saki player that knows what they're doing ain't fun lol
Pops, you funny!
I wish she was in UMVC3 or even MVCI
Seemingly normal teenage girls who moonlights as a enforcer of the extraordinary seems to be a popular trope with the JP since the 90's, it seems. But Saki, moreso than the other girls from her game sounds like she could be the leading girl of a late 90's-early 00's light novel.
But that's what I like about crossovers: You'd find a character you never heard of, do your homework and get into their home series if you found it appealing.
5:25 Before Yoko Honna, Saki was popular in past Games by Michiyo Neya's Voice(Where the japanese's favorite line for her in game "Leave it to me" were used in MVC1).
She provided to be the VA of Saki in Original Game, but...
Just like others VAs, her list a little bit extensive.
Beyond Saki, she voiced Charllote, Kumiko Ezaki and Linz Pestel the Youkai in the same Game.
But it's not first time this happens to Michiko.
In Plasma Sword, She voiced Rain and Kaede.
In Tech Romancer, Diana-17.
In Street Fighter Alpha 3, Rose.
And(Ahem), we can't forget the Fandom's Darling, Hsienko from Darkstalkers.
Who appeared also in Super Gem Fighter and Puzzle Fighter.
Her Voice reached outta anyone's Imagination.
Note 2: In particular I believe that the solution for Nanairo Dreams Series to sell on the Globe is Reboot game in an Puzzle form just like similar to Ace Attorney.
Since that quiz games is not common selled on the West;
Man, I’m surprised Hauzer wasn’t considered for a playable Giant Character in TvC. He’s appeared in at least two endings and was playable in a previous Capcom crossover fighter. 🤔
Ah, Red Earth (or Warzard outside the US)...one of the most unique fighting games ever...it's basically a boss rush (Like Apoc. or Onslaught) with exp. levels and only 4 playable characters...
Capcom has so many colorful and unique obscure characters that are sadly underuse which sucks because as much as I love Capcom I gotta admit they kind of been playing it safe for the past few years but I’m hoping that both Pragmata and Kunitsu-Gami become a huge success for Capcom and maybe Capcom won’t be so afraid of creating new IPs.
Yeah, even though I'm a fan of the series they've been pushing lately (helps the the games have largely been objectively great too), it's pretty slim pickings if you're not a fan of or are just tired of Street Fighter, Resident Evil or Monster Hunter. We get the occasional bone every now and then like Ghosts & Goblins Resurrection, but still.
Hopefully Kunitsu-Gami is a sign that they still have some new IPs left in them.
@@TheSeventhForce You could also argue that SEGA does the same thing with their franchises and while that’s definitely true to some degree at least when they when they left the console business they were confident enough to created new IPs like Super Monkey Ball, Yakuza, Valkyria Chronicles and while not own by SEGA they are the owns responsible for helping with Platinum for creating the Bayonetta series.
Though I wouldn’t mind seeing SEGA attempting to revive a good chuck of their IPs since I’m of kind of sick of how over reliant SEGA has become with Sonic since I’m not really a Sonic fan and really only care about their other IPs since I find them interesting compared to Sonic.
Sega seems to be doing just that, given their announcements last year for Shinobi, Golden Axe, Crazy Taxi and Jet Set Radio. And they've been licensing out their IP recently with okay to great results these last few years (Panzer Dragoon/House of the Dead/Alex Kidd remakes, Streets of Rage 4, etc.), so thankfully they have more going on than just Sonic.
@@maxtubb8560 For Sega they have been doing that for a while even before that big announcement earlier this year. Even if outsourced sometimes. Streets of Rage 4, Space Channel 5 VR, Shin Sakura Wars, Samba de Amigo Party Central, Wonder Boy remakes, Valkyria Chronicles 4, i hesitate to have called Monkey Ball dormant but that's gotten 2 remakes and a new game coming this month. They been cooking, just folks not paying much attention for some reason
Im pretty sure Im not the only person who would like Capcom to add more deep cut and obscure properties they own to other crossover games.
Heck, im shocked when MvCI came by with literal stones as its mechanic yet not a single Power Stone character is playable.
You unlocked rage I've managed to suppress for 7 years with the power stone part lol
"It even works on giants" It's brilliant. She /fights Kaiju/ for a living, of course she's got something extra on giant characters.
trying to do Quiz Nanairo on emulator without a fan translation and getting saki was harder than doing the entirety of PSP Phantasy star in japanese
Making me want to play Tatsunoko vs real bad now
I love how her ending is like "Saki, if you don't want to tell us how you guys met, you can just tell us that. You don't have to make up BS"
Jackie Chan Adventures, Xenoblade X and Tatsunoko vs Capcom having zero degrees of separation was not something I expected to learn today, but that insane lore drop about her origin was even wilder!
I absolutely love when ultra deep cut characters like this end up in a crossover game, and I do wonder if Capcom's history with quiz games has anything to do with the quiz mini game in Megaman Legends 2?
Could you talk about killer7 and its potential inclusion in tvc
I will admit tvc was the first game I’ve ever seen Saki in and she was an interesting character that I actually wanted to know more about. Thank you
"There's deep lore in this video"
Oh neat!
"Saki is an alien"
Okay sure, yeah. Actually crazy. This isn't even on her Capcom Wiki article, goddamn.
I honestly think the game's obscurity combined with it never being localized (and highly unlikely to ever get a fan translation) just kept pretty much anyone outside of anyone that hadn't already played it to dig in to the plot stuff. Not even places like Hardcoregaming101 made mention of it or anything.
God bless you for this fine bit of investigation reporting
23:22 holy shit it’s the kid from tvc!!! I thought he was random
Yep! I was wondering if anyone would recognize them before I got around to pointing it out in the eventual Morrigan video, haha
Saki the cannon waifu.
FUN FACT: Yoko Honna (Saki's VA in TVC) also voiced Nagisa/Cure Black in the original Futari wa PreCure, the second season, the recently Otona PreCure adult spin-off and countless crossover appearances from that of the series.
It's basically Sailor Moon meets Power Rangers where magical girls had a group colored wearing heroines and she/they can throw punches on monsters aside using powers. You may know in the west in Glitter Force, but that changes in the 2020s since PreCure becomes well known in the West thanks to streaming platforms.
I always thought she was from whatever game the guy with the robot arm was...
27:56😅 All the other characters are like what is this lady on? She should leave those crystals 😉😉.
Wouldn't It Be Funny If Japan Got US Characters Who never left the United States they probably never heard of Mad Jack The Pirate or Ralph from Secret Files Of The Spy Dogs not Marvel Comics but In The Disney Vault following the buyout of Fox Family Worldwide In 2001 by Disney
Probably a reason some people want Mike Jones in Smash.
@@GmNdWtchr96 The Mid 2000's Rapper Mike Jones ???
Who?
(Jokes aside, I think they mean the StarTropics protagonist lol)
Possibly a character Japan has actually gotten, (I'm not sure) but if they put in Jack Skellington just because Capcom made a DMC-like game for it on PS2 would be absolutely insane.
Just imagine they put Sophia in the game if they do another vs game in Japan she's she's very popular she had her own anime figure she made it into a popularity contest surprised that everybody
I am actually working on a Capcom Vs. Game on Mungen and I am happy to say that I adore Saki's Sprite work on the engine.
I am glad to know a little bit more about her today, and see if I can apply some of this move properties. Great job with the video
For a while I have been wondering if SEGA were to one day make their own crossover fighter I have been if the Harrier from Space Harrier was playable fighter what would his move set be like and after seeing Saki in TvC I imagine SEGA could just copy some of her move set while also throwing in some original move sets in their as well.
I have a good anecdote of playing Quiz Nanairo Dreams with a friend after we got curios about Saki's character after playing a bit of Tatsunoko Vs Capcom. My friend was studying japanese at the time so he could understand a few questions and I was choosing options randomly funny thing is my friend was doing good with the other girls except Saki meanwhile I was the opposite and was getting correct answers and affection points only on Saki xD
We remember fondly that one question about the Olympics contained Japan as one of the answers and we instantly choose that one cause of The Simpsons meme of the episode when they travel to Japan and have to participate in a contest... Sadl it was wrong.
Thank you for this video! I love her even more now 😭
You know with the announcement of Marvel vs Capcom Legacy Collection and the possibility of a new MVC game happening one thing I want to see happen in a hypothetical MVC 4 is to have more obscure characters one of my biggest complaints with Infinite was the lack of obscure characters on the roster because Capcom has so many unique obscure characters and while I’m not a comic book fan Marvel also has good obscure that could be really fun additions to a hypothetical MVC 4.
I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again but the obscure/niche characters in crossover games I tend to find the most interesting picks because it always sparks my interest to research their game or even try out the game series.
I remember playing SSBB (which was my first Smash Bros game) and I remember looking at the roster and seeing these obscure Nintendo characters that I have never heard of until brawl particularly characters like Ness, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers and Marth where characters in the Smash Bros series that peaked my interest in trying out the game series they came from.
Would love a legacy vid on Shuma Growth, SonSon & Tessa (I know she's from Red Earth)
Her being alien is blowing my fucking mind, holy moly. Great work as always!!
I want her for UMvC3 community edition
when you said anne i was confused but evangelion makes more sense
Someone actually used Saki's sprite in MUGEN
God she's such a stupid choice for a character but I want her back so so bad you have no idea.
This is why I love you videos. The insane amount of research you put into such niche and trivial history of Capcom and so forth. Thanks to you, I learned a lot about Saki. Great job!
I loved playing Saki but I had no clue about the game she was in, so interesting
this character needs more love somehow. she ended up becoming a personal favorite thanks to tvc
For ton pooh, you'll notice that she uses similar star up animations to chunlis hazan tenchokyaku
Pure and fur second color looks like mr. Driller character
24:12 Wow. Based Golden Lightan!
TH-cam recommended this video to me on he side. I didn't think it would be anything special, but I'm surprised. I got a lot of good information in this video I wouldn't have been able to get otherwise. You just got a new subscriber.
Thank you!
16:58
PINEAPPLE SUPRISE!
Excelllent video, but you missed one detail that I haven't seen mentioned elsewhere in the comments: The kid who appears on screen at 23:25 is also in TvC as a cameo in Morrigan's ending!
I was actually planning on highlighting that detail in the eventual Morrigan video 😆
I never knew
What is the name of the concept artist behind saki?
Kenichi Ueda's the graphic designer I cite in regards to her initial design in the video, but if I'm not mistaken, Daigo Ikeno did a lot of the concept and promo art for the game.
Really appreciate you going over her character as a whole, even the translation parts. Nice to main someone you know more about than before.
Would love to see you do the same for Karas. His moves are so awesome that I wanna know more about him too
i never expected this fighting game guide to have a full plot twist..... holy SHIT
THESE VIDEOS ARE EXCELLENT, THANK YOU FOR KEEPING THIS SERIES ALIVE ^^
Another banger. It’s fun learning about the source material for these characters thru your videos cause you always provide some great insight, and that plot twist is wild.
Good video
Actually checked her game out a couple years ago cause i was always curious about her. Finding out made her inclusion here even more baffling but in the best way possible. Though if it were up to me, i would've gone with Linz for some QNID love. Just like her design more and shes an antagonist (yeah the game has one) so itd have been cool.
Her animated ending from the vanilla version of Tatsunoko vs Capcom... Quiz Nanairo Dreams in a nutshell in her storytelling (not to mention the crystals and the fairy reference... would have been funnier if they had showed the Demon King as well, a wasted chance, but not a big deal), can't help but to giggle with a laugh on that one now that I can understand with the subtitles what was the talk and why the other girls had a "what the heck?" expression.
Funny enough, when I got to play the updated version that DID come outside Japan, Saki was the first character I picked as I got my mind blown that she had the promotion from assist character in MVC1 into a playable fighter in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, and that made me seek out her origins, but due to language barrier it was out of question in terms of understanding what was going on in the Quiz game, took until this one to finally complete that part of my curiosity.
Props for mentioning Kyosuke RS aerial combos in CVS2 🎉 Instant subscribe
Great video! Always wondered what Saki was about, I love how everyone in her Tatsunoko is just as confused about her lore as everyone else haha
Just curious but what do think about the announcement of the live action Yakuza TV series coming to Amazon Prime?
No real opinion on it at this point so far.
@@TheSeventhForce I have mixed feelings on the announcement because on one hand I’m a huge fan of the Yakuza series and it’s probably one of my favorite Video Game franchises of all time but on the other hand I’m genuinely not a fan of if movies and TV shows based on Video Games since I feel like they only exist so that video game get more respect an artform when Video Games and Hollywood need to start acting more like themselves and less like each other.
My main girl from TvC. Love that game, love the character, but she's always been a bit of a mystery to my American brain. Thanks for making this video sharing information about her background and characteristics! After all the hours I spent labbing this character, I didn't have a single clue she was an alien lol.
Some fun facts to share based on her appearance in TvC to go with the video!
- She has a corner infinite with certain high hitstun assist and her unblockable Armor Piercing Bullet. You alluded towards something similar in the video, but the assist+combo variants are just barely meter positive, meaning you can truly infinite combo until your opponent is KO'd (or the Megacrash).
- The H version of her special ammo load is indeed an overhead if fired from 5H or the air, but if you fire it crouching (2H), it's a low! That means it can be an unreactable 50/50 up close.
- OTGs are rare, and usually weak in this game. Her 2H crouching fire is fairly unique as it's a full-screen, on-demand OTG.
- While she is a zoner, hilariously one of her best strats is to corner someone and spam jM over and over again. It's a downwards angled kick with incredible frame data and a generous hitbox, making it downright spammable in pressure.
- She and Megaman are the only characters in the game with a projectile mapped to their H buttons.
I actually had a section of the video scripted out in previous drafts about that jumping medium, but ended up cutting it in favor of going more in depth on the heavy projectile. It's definitely absurdly good though yeah lol
Pretty funny that her alt color referencing the Ultra Guard from UltraSeven and then in her actual game she has a reference to the iconic final episode of UltraSeven. The whole bright light in the background and yea even her whole character seems like an UltraSeven reference.
Whoops just read the full description, haha.
24:52 all right back to work
Ooh!
27:26 Doronjo, why are you still wearing your villain outfit?
Saki is a really cool character to me, just like Nick she comes from a game where there's no combat to speak of, but instead of making the mechanics from the series work in a fighting game, they just came up mostly original stuff, and I think that's neat, and that she's such an obscure character makes it even better, not my favorite zoner, (That goes to Kuja from Dissidia) but I still hope we either get her back, or get another one of these obscure quiz characters in possibly a new Vs game.
I also remember you doing a sort of quiz time segment in one of your older videos; While using Nanairo Dreams as a template, I don't remember which vid it was, but I know the question was "Which of these teams has not won a tournament" (Which tournament I can't remember) it was neat but I 100% understand why you didn't bring it back after the first try.
Edit: That was also certainly a revelation lol.
Oh yeah, I did that for the Ryu video! Only reason why I haven't done another one yet is because I lost the assets I made for that segment in a hard drive crash not too long after that video released. I do plan on recreating it so I can do more of those trivia sections every now and then to break up the pacing in some of the longer videos.
@@TheSeventhForce Ahh I see, well I have no problem with bringing it back either, in fact if you want, I can shoot some trivia question ideas once I get back from trying to get my PS2 fixed. (The memory card slot isn't working properly, even if it still kinda works, gotta prop it up to do that though)
I'll let you know!
@@TheSeventhForce Sounds good, granted you would have to reply to this comment again (Or another one of mine) because I don't have discord or whatever lol.
4:27 too soon
People who made and anime belly up
Bro is running out of characters
Nah. Counting bosses playable and unplayable, there's 157 characters to cover between the Capcom developed crossover fighters (MvC/CvS & TvC) and I've only covered 42 so far. I'm only just getting started :)
Keep cooking king 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
NEW VS. LEGACY CHAPTER LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO