And it's awesome! And I prefer the 2.0 IVT over the 1.6t DCT for day to day use. Test drove both and picked the NA motor. Felt a lot smoother. And I get amazing gas milage as well. 40mpg on the highway and 28 city.
The SX Turbo has Forward Collision Avoidance, Highway Driving Assist and Smart Cruise Control (SCC) w/ Stop & Go, not found in the S Turbo, none of which are available also on the EX. The strange pricing and feature bundling makes the Seltos a hard sell for me. I am not usually looking for the top of the line model, but with this car, I am forced there, if only for the safety features I can get in a Crosstrek or the CX-30 in either the base model or the one after it.
Long time lurker here. Want to thank you, Alex, for your comprehensive reviews. This review helped cement my decision to purchase a new Seltos SX Turbo in November. It does suck you have to pony up to the top trim level to get the adaptive cruise and 10" screen, but it's still a good value (I got about $1200 off MSRP). I cross shopped the CX30, CrossTrek and Chevy Trailblazer and the Seltos came out ahead in driving dynamics and overall value in my book. (It was a hard choice btwn the Seltos and Crosstrek).
Thank you so much for explaining the DCT in your review. Most people think the DCT is just like a regular torque converter auto and expect it to behave like one. It is an automated manual indeed and for me its the best of both worlds.
Alex does his best to explain the somewhat confusing trim level mixes of the Seltos. A simpler way to think about the approach is first to recognize that unlike a most other brands KIA typically offers few individual options or optional packages on various trim levels. Instead, KIA consolidates a large set of features to define a particular trim rather than pricing individual features (as many European brands do) or offering a number of optional "packages" for a particular trim level (as American and Japanese brands typically do.) The advantage of this approach from both KIA's and a consumer's perspective is that the overall production process is simplified, resulting in lower costs, some of which are passed on to consumers. The disadvantage and a complaint voiced by some consumers is that if you want feature "X", you have to select a more expensive trim that includes features "Y" and "Z" to get "X" rather than adding "X" as an individual option or "X" and "Y" as a option package to a lower price trim level. In the case of the Seltos KIA has extended that approach in a way. Rather than providing a single trim level "ladder," they've provided two parallel ladders that combine in the top trim SX Turbo trim level. At the base level KIA offers two trims, the LX and the S. The LX offers a relatively comprehensive set of features including AWD for an MSRP of about $22,000. The S offers even more bells, whistles, and driver assistance/convenience features for the same base price but comes with FWD rather than AWD. (AWD can be added for $1500 raising the MSRP to nearly $23,500.) One step up from the LX is the EX, a trim level that adds the "S's" bells and whistles that the LX lacks. The "S Turbo", a step up from the "S," comes standard with AWD, the more powerful 1.6L turbo engine, and a DCT transmission but it lacks some of the creature comforts of the EX. Again, the "EX" and the S Turbo have almost exactly the same MSRP. (EX: $25,290. S Turbo $25,490) Finally, the top trim SX Turbo combines the entire set of features in the separate trim levels. The turbo engine and DCT transmission from the "S Turbo" and all the bells, whistles, and creature comforts of the EX for $27,890 and an optional sunroof not available on any other trim for another $700. If all that hasn't simplified the confusing Seltos offerings (and it probably hasn't), think of it as two trim ladders. "LX -> EX -> SX Turbo" versus "S -> S Turbo -> SX Turbo."
I think Alex is correct that the Seltos and the Mazda CX-30 are the two most appealing subcompact crossovers available, at least to me. The two are essentially equal in terms of power specs if one compares the 1.6L turbo in the Seltos to the 2.5L NA engine in the CX-30. The CX-30 offers a very slight advantage in terms of HP (186 vs 175) while the Seltos has a similarly slight advantage in terms of peak torque (195 vs 186). But the torque curve in the Seltos is much broader and reaches its peak at 1500 RPM while the CX-30 doesn't reach its peak torque until 4000 RPM. That's a significant plus for the KIA in terms of performance. Furthermore, there's one crucial difference that Alex doesn't mention and it gives the Seltos a significant advantage (imo). The Seltos and CX-30 are essentially the same size in terms of length. In fact the Seltos is about an inch shorter than the CX-30 But the CX-30, like other Mazda CUV's sacrifices interior room, especially cargo space for what Alex calls its "pretty" looks that stems in part from its long hood/short body. The Seltos has 26.6 cubic ft of cargo space behind the second row compared to the 20.2 cf in the CX-30. But the huge difference is in total cargo space behind the first row, 62.8 cf in the Seltos vs 45.2 in the Mazda. In fact, the Seltos has more total cargo space than the larger compact Mazda CX-5 (59.6 cf). And the difference in capacity is the equivalent of a typical trunk in a midsize sedan. For a subcompact UTILITY vehicle, such generous cargo space is a MAJOR advantage. I agree with Alex that the CX-30 is "pretty." But for an SUV I prefer versatility over looks.
You place way too much weight on the cf as a number. The CX-30 and the Seltos got the same roller bag score, and the Accord SEDAN bested both with a 5 roller bag score with only 16.7 cf of trunk. I know this from personal experience after owning a 2014 Kia Soul. It theoretically has 24.2 cf of space behind the 2nd row, but I realistic couldn't carry most stuff or even pick up someone from the airport without putting one seat down. Also, It really just depends on your use case, because I know that for myself I would rarely if ever need more space than an average compact sedan.
@@panzer_TZ You're certainly correct that the shape of cargo space as well as the opening are critical in assessing cargo space in a vehicle. In an effort to derive a comparable metric Car and Driver used to fill a vehicle's cargo space with ping pong balls. Apparently they ran out of ping pong balls or decided no one actually tries to put more than a thousand ping pong balls in any vehicle. So they discontinued the effort. One Canadian TH-cam channel uses a set of objects including grocery bags, a stroller, a soccer ball and some other items as a "standard" measure. Another channel fills the cargo space with gigantic packages of toilet paper from Costco. I'm not sure why the "roller bag" approach Alex uses should be considered the most appropriate approach compared to cubic feet especially since a vehicle should presumably carry as many roller bags as passenger seats and provide some more room for the incidentals that typically inhabit a trunk. Cubic feet isn't a perfect metric but it at least doesn't presume that the only cargo one ever carries are 1.3 cubic ft rectangular boxes. Finally, I've made a number of runs to the airport in a KIA Soul and never had to put the rear seat down to transport a single passenger. Furthermore, a couple of years ago I was presented with the task of moving an entire household of "stuff" including boxes, paintings, and pieces of furniture to a large storage unit. The Soul performed admirably and reduced the number of trips required substantially Perhaps the difficulty you experienced in "pick(ing) up someone from the airport without putting the seat down" resulted from your friend/family member using one or two steamer trunks as luggage.
@@panzer_TZ Yes, theory vs reality: Manufacturer-supplied cargo space specs should be taken with a grain of salt, though I'd expect more credibility from Mazda than just about anyone else, including Kia.
My experience with Mazda is their vehicles are noticeably smaller inside than competitors, regardless of advertised numbers. I really liked the CX-5 but ended up with a Rogue because the Rogue had WAY more real world interior room. I could barely fit in back seat behind the driver seat when set for my position in the CX-5. Forget putting rear facing child seats in the CX-5. I'm not a giant, I'm 5'11 which is taller than average but not by much.
I’m in the market for a new car and have been comparing the Kia Seltos, Mazda cx30, and Hyundai Kona. So I’ve been watching a lot of car reviews and comparisons. Yours has been one of the Most informative! Thank you! I also love the extra info overlays and the end comparison you did. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Great review and was really helpful in recommending a new Subcompact SUV to my mom. I recommended CX-30, Crosstrek, and the Seltos. The Seltos just won out on value, interior space, and exterior boxy SUV look. Seltos S model FWD for $19,700.
I just don't understand why everyone keeps referring to DCTs/PDK as a manual transmission...It changes gears automatically, no matter what the guts are...that's an automatic (of course, unless you have paddles and a manual mode...). It's just confusing non enthusiasts who just want to know am I shifting it, or the car? Enthusiasts know what a DCT or PDK is, so no need to describe it, and for non-enthusiasts, just call it an automatic, dual clutch transmission. If they are more interested, they will ask, what is a dual transmission? Then, by all means, feel free to go down the rabbit hole of why enthusiasts like to call it a manual that shifts automatically....Now that that's out of the way (and you're not the only one doing it...it's allllllllll car journalists), this is a great review. I'm in the market for a car for my sons to drive. Requirements from the wife is we get them something that has all possible safety features. For me, that includes an engine that can get out of its way. I liked the Seltos a lot when I drove it. I too drove the S Turbo, but haven't tried the SX Turbo yet, which does have a few more safety features that I would like to see working. Comparing this to the Mazda CX-30 (which I found too claustrophobic for a new driver), and the Subaru Cross Trek, which I really liked, except for the CVT. But, did like the NA engine over the turbo of the Seltos (which you can get as an NA engine with the lower trims). I love those speaker grills and the interior was very nicely laid out. I also drove the Hyundai Kona which seemed so cheap and small compared to the Seltos, CX-30, and the Cross Trek, so took it off the list right away.
Alex, I just saw the Seltos at the local Kia dealership. The Seltos is bigger than the pictures and videos imply. It is definitely worth looking at. I was surprised that the back seat was actually sit inable. Even with the driver's seat all the way back, like you I still had a coup,e inches of knee room.
I agree. I went to see the Niro (they didn't have one), so I sat in a Soul which was next to a Seltos. I was stunned at how much bigger it looked. I told the dealer if it came in a hybrid version, I would have bought one right there and then.
I'd easily choose an SX Turbo Seltos, but with the no sunroof option. I've never been a fan of them, and my current vehicle with a pano sunroof has leaked. Kia is knocking everything out of the park with pretty much all of their new vehicle designs.
Yeah so that turbo motor which is a ticking time bomb can leave you stranded. Just something else to go wrong and not cheap to replace, because you just know it will let go right after the warranty expires.
Purchased an 'S' trim FWD version of the Seltos in February. Didn't need the 4wd, and the 'S' trim (the only one with FWD) wasn't lacking any features I felt I needed, and got better gas mileage. I actually like the cloth/faux leather seats better than the faux leather ones as well, and only the LX and S trims offered those. As far as I'm concerned, when you consider cargo space, the only competitor in this segment is the crosstrek. The crosstrek is a very nice vehicle. My wife has a 2018 fully-loaded one. It drives more smoothly than the Seltos. But the Seltos sits up a bit higher like an SUV, so a little easier for entry/exit. Also, the cargo area of the Seltos will fit a fully-loaded golf bag, while I could not get my golf bag in the crosstrek easily unless I removed the longer clubs. Also, the Seltos is generally less expensive, at least in the lower trim-lines - and then there's the warranty. So far, love the Seltos.
I've got a 2016 Subie Crosstrek and I've been shopping for something else. If I stay in this segment then this little Seltos looks like the one I'd choose over the ones you've mentioned, Alex. I love the Mazda you reviewed but I have to go with all of the technology of the Seltos and to me it is as nice looking (or almost) as the Mazda. Just my 2¢.
I'm a big Mazda fan, so I tend to be extra critical of their products. The CX-30 is a good CUV (especially compared to the competition when looking at it's lower trims) but it has several critical flaws IMO. (1) Small sight lines/green house. The belt line comes up so high and your sight lines are so narrow (same with the Mazda 3) that it'll deter a lot of customers that want the big airy SUV feel. (2) Outdated naturally aspirated engine. Yes it's less complex and less prone to failure than a turbo, but you're going to feel so sluggish compared with the competition. (3) No touch screens. In Mazda press briefings they consistently bring up how touchscreens are distracting and how their system is intuitive once you spend a few weeks with it... I know Mazda has their own principles and philosophy, but touch screens are what consumers want. Personally I love everything about the Seltos except the DCT. These 7 speed Hyundai DCTs are so prone to overheating if you try to do any sort of mild trail crawling for more than 5 minutes. TFL and others have shown it in the Kona and Seltos.
Mike R I agree with your thoughts on the DCT. Any sort of mild off-roading will fry this transmission most likely, with the clutch packs constantly engaging and disengaging. But since this thing will never see a rock chip and will be driven in much more urban environments, I wonder how it will fair in stop and go traffic. We all know DCTs are not very pleasant and can be jerky in low speed scenarios. I don’t personally agree with Hyundai/Kia’s philosophy on putting these complex transmissions in everyday commuter cars.
About the mazda's info system, i think its practical, safer, ergonomic, i like it.. it is in the line of sight, you dont need to reach for the screen(less distraction) and is actually easy to use.. yeah i like it better than the usually distracting, you have to look down and reach, touch infosystems
Great seat belt tip, your the only one that has brought that one to us, I have had my SX AWD 1.6L 4cyl turbo. steel gray for four months now and really appreciated your review there in Texas. I seen to where the 235 tires (Majesty 9 Solus TA91 Kumho's) on the Seltos have received good reviews. (T.R. reviews)
The 2021 KIA Seltos is a great buy, however, I don't understand why the Seltos in the USA lacks so many add on the Canada gets. Such as Heads Up Display, heated rear seats, pull up curtain on rear windows, an air filter system and cooled front seats to name a few. Same way in India. Why has KIA given other countries so many other nice accessories and not the US? I have asked but no one can give me an answer. I feel like we as Americans are being discriminated against.
I thought this new Seltos is the best new vehicle you can buy under $30k and your review is in line withy my thinking. Long on strengths, short on weaknesses
A decent video and overview. I agree with you it’s a shame a company known for offering more than the class competitors can’t manage to offer smart adaptive cruise control in a vehicle that tops out around $30K when it’s becoming a must have feature for many. You highlight the trade offs with a dual clutch vs CVT but the best answers for many is a regular 6 or 8 speed automatic. Keep in mind Hyundai and Kia have a class action lawsuit against them for how horrible their DCT transmissions can be. The all new for 2021 Hyundai Tucson should flat out blow the Seltos away in many ways based on preliminary information and speculation. The Tucson is still in this class being around the same length as a Crosstrek but should offer some class leading tech including smart cruise, smart phone entry/keyless start, possible wireless Android auto/Apple car play, and even semi autonomous highway lane following as all those features are available on the cheaper 2021 Hyundai Elantra.
Drew Croft you’re right about the adaptive cruise but sadly you’re stuck with the awful dual clutch to get it. That’s also true in some other Kia and Hyundai vehicles where they reserve the smart cruise for only the top end trim. Where, by comparison, it’s available on lower trims on cars like the Honda Civic or even Toyota Prius.
Just purchased the SX turbo. Only other vehicle I considered was the Crosstrek. Deciding factor: Subaru dealer not close enough! But...I AM having a blast in my new little stinker of a Kia. (Former vehicle was a 2014 loaded Jeep Grand Cherokee-I needed something much lower to get my canoe and kayak on top alone.).
I'm gonna go with Seltos. I was originally going with Mazda but the display screen not being touchscreen was not good. Also I like the way that Kia and Hyundai Konas has their display positioned - it's upright, whereas other cars tend to have it angled into the car.
When discussing cargo space, it would be nice to always include flipping at least one rear seat back forward to show how flat the load floor is (did I miss it, in there?). Also, if registering 73 dB @ only 50mph, I'd rate the noise level at something a bit lower than "A-".
The cargo area has a 2 position floor - near flat and dropped about 4" - at least the ones in Canada do....they also have lots more features on each trim level...I test drove the 2.0 with IVT ( EX model here - there is one with almost everything except the turbo called EX Premium - all the safety/adaptive cruise etc - bigger screen, leather , LED lights, remote start- everything you could want ) and it was good - I don't care about 0-60...for highway driving just use your head - I can pass big trucks in my 2014 Kia Rio - I just know when to pass and when not to...and I'm never in a huge rush anyway ...
We've owned a Seltos SX Turbo for about two months now. It's my wife's car so I don't have a TON of insight yet, but the fact that it turns the engine off at stops is a bit... Weird. I understand why it does that, but it's something I just haven't gotten used to yet. I'll stick to my Niro EV, awesome car itself.
@Richard Favreau We all have to get along. Please clarify, when you say "advantages" are you talking about surviving airline seats or shopping for size 13 shoes?
The Chevy Trailblazer is closer in size and price to the Seltos that the Trax. The Venue isn't Hyundai's closest competitor. The Kona is being that it is an actual a platform mate.
I just wish car companies would ditch the fake exhaust tip looks. They don't even try to make them look believable, and it's even more ridiculous when you can actually see the real exhaust tip poking out from under the bumper.
Kias/Hyundais CVT are actually fairly reliable and not as iffy as most others. So it'll most likely hold up fine. And the dct will only overheat if kept under a constant hard load due to how it works. But will also be perfectly fine for regular driving with some minor off roading like going on a small trail or dirt path. Just take it to do jeep things lol
Just to correct you slightly. The Indian version of the Seltos is based on the Creta (ix25) The global Seltos (the one in US) is based on the Ceed platform (Soul, Ceed, Elantra, Forte, Kona etc).
They are all related, however Kia's engineers say that the KX3/Seltos is more closely related to the IX25 than the Kona, although both are close cousins and share a lot of design components.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide thing is. The KX3 and the Seltos you were driving are different. The KX3 is the same as the Indian Seltos that's also sold in some middle east countries. It has a shorter wheelbase and is overall smaller. And has the ugly dash. The global Seltos is larger. You can tell the 2 apart by the hood line KX3 has the hood that goes to the edge of the chrome piece. The Kia logo is on the hood. The global version has the logo on the bumper. Also the KX3 has completely different power train to the global spec Seltos. We have the 1.6l NA 6AT, 2.0NA IVT and 1.6T 7DCT. While the KX3 and the Indian Seltos have 1.5NA and 1.4T 7DCT. As well as a diesel.
@@SergeiOzerov Correct, but the KX3 and Seltos are more or less stretched version/short version rather than totally different vehicles. Powetrains are interchangeable in most Kia/Hyundai platforms so you can't really go by that.
I agree with your comment about Mazda’s infotainment system. That lack of touchscreen interface is a deal-breaker for me. I’m in Australia and RAV4 Hybrids have anywhere from 9 to 18 month wait time and that’s not even guaranteed so I ended up getting the Kia Seltos Sport+ Aussie model for my wife. Awesome review as always. Cheers!
I do like the Mazda 3, but the cargo area isn't big enough to be practical. I like the roominess of this, but since I'm used to more upscale cars, this seems too noisy. Other than that I like it and it fits my self-image better than the Soul. With floor mats and a trunk mat it was almost $30k.
I agree with you Alex, I think the sweat spot is the 2.0 AWD EX. Better fuel economy, snazzier interior and 17 inch wheels which may quiet the cabin as far as tire noise? Thanks for another great review!
@@danielc3321 I've never had this feature before but I'm certainly interested- is it that good? Does it matter if it's full-stop adaptive cruise control?
So this or a Trailblazer? Most say that engine is the only thing holding a TB from being best offer this thing. When will you do a Trailblazer review video?
Yes. I had a Soul and traded if for the Seltos because of the larger cargo area, which fits my golf bad and 4-wheel push cart without having to put the seats down. 4 bags might be a stretch, but I think 2 can fit quite easily, though you have to keep them toward the back of the storage area where it juts out on the sides a bit. But If you took the drivers out of the bag, you could probably fit the bags anywhere in the storage area and just lay the drivers on top.
Does anyone have experience driving the Seltos AWD through snow? I'm really loving the Seltos, but I'm concerned with how it might handle the Maine weather.
argh . . . I have trouble classifying a FWD only as a CUV! The Niro, possibly. The Hyundai Venue, possibly. The Soul or the Toyota CH-R, I just can't do it.
Tough choice for me, Alex . . . It comes down to how much I intend to take it to those higher altitude trailheads . . . S 1.6T is quicker but that DCT, while it fits my driving personality, has serious issues at low speeds in climbing mode. The EX with the 2.0L and the CVT is going to be much better on those gravel/rock FS roads with the 'locking differential' and has better features (I really do want the moonroof!). - I would seriously have to drive both to determine my choice! What are my thoughts on the vehicles that you mentioned? - the Crossteck is a sad example of how Subaru has lost it's touch with their reliability and is not on my radar. - the CX-30 is, to me, a little dumpy looking . . . and Mazda will not get me considering one until the 6A is replaced by a 6M or a better Auto AND until they do something about that rear suspension. - the Trax . . . no. Just no. - same for the HR-V . . . a nice base CUV for those without a sporty bone in their body. No. - the Jeep . . . just too many minuses. No. - the Buick GX is intriguing . . . I am not a fan of those bitty motors but your review of that vehicle has it on my radar, as long as I am willing to limit the gravel roading. The Seltos is at the top of my list right now with the debate being between the S 1.6 T and the EX. The Kona is on my radar (sportier, quicker, also a little too small and low for entry (bad back)), the previously mention Encore GX and the Niro (roomy, hybrid, but no AWD and a little low for entry). p.s.: the Renegade is not 'pretty darned cute' to my eyes; that is one ugly rig. But, visual esthetics are seriously subjective, so, agreeing to disagree ;).
1) I like the exhaust ports . . . I could see cleaning being an issue though. 2) Competition . . . Most of this segment holds no interest to me. The CX-30 did until I sat in it, too hard to get in and out of. Subaru, no, Jeep, no. Kia Kona looks great, but likely to short for me. Every time I see the Seltos I get excited. I think it is just the right size, right equipment . . . well, we'll see. Sitting and driving would be essential first . . . and next year is the soonest.
Really like the Seltos. Thanks for the review. I'm on my 5th Mazda in a row now (6 Signature) all of witch have been great cars, but am getting ready to switch brands. Why? No touch screen in the infotainment. I can't stand using that knob!
That's fair. I actually really like the knob control and got used to it after a while in my Mazda 3. Couldn't stand the fingerprints left on my screen.
I’m considering the S trim, FWD with CVT? Does anyone have one? How’s the reliability? First time Kia buyer. Had a Hyundai Elantra GT before and the experience was great!
That's exactly what I've had since February. Hard to say how reliability is at this point, but my Soul didn't give me a problem for the 3 years I owned it. For size and usability in terms of cargo space and interior seating space, I think the Seltos is the best choice in this segment, or at least a toss-up with the crosstrek.
Does the CVT have any of the overheating trans issues? Though I doubt many will really take it off roading as much as over reviewers have. Maybe just sandy/dirt soft roading and lots and lots of snow.
I have a Tucson with the same 7DCT. Keep up just a bit of momentum is all it needs. Sometimes I also turn ESP off to allow wheelspin but so far I havent gotten it stuck yet. I do have all terrain tires on it though :)
@@tousshong9438 The Seltos is better but not because it will "outlast" the Compass because most people that buy new cars will get rid of them after 5-7 years.
Love your detailed reviews. Seems like the 2.0 is not that slow in this segment. Do you think the EX trim with the 17” wheels is a bit, maybe 1 dB quieter than the SX with the 18” wheels?
@Alex I find that often the best/next most interesting car and value to the Kia's are their cousins in the Hyundai lineup... What would you pick between this and a Hyundai Kona and why?
The Seltos S turbo is ridiculously sparse for only being $2400 off the SX. Smaller infotainment display, no keyless entry, manual seats, manual climate controls, halogen fog and headlights instead of LED, key instead of push button start which also means you lose FOB-controlled remote start, no smart cruise control, no pedestrian detection braking, you lose the Bose audio, you lose the cargo cover (included on the SX), manual parking brake so no auto-hold braking. I gave the SX a good look last month, but ended up going with a CX-5 turbo instead. With the discounts that Mazda was running, there was less than a $2500 difference in out-the-door price between the CX-5 GTR and a Seltos SX Turbo w/ Sunroof. When you're gaining heated steering wheel, heated and cooled seats made of actual leather, seat position memory, better audio, projection HUD, adaptive LED headlights, power liftgate, turbo engine with +75HP and +125ft-lb torque, and no traffic creep / uphill start DCT worries... at that point the CX-5 becomes a much easier choice.
I wanted to love this thing...I sooo wanted to. But it and the 2021 sorento have 1 huge flaw....a dual clutch transmission. Every review who put any strain at all on the awd have had it overheat. If you going down dirt roads or dealing with snow...I wouldn't put my faith in the dual clutch. Shame...
off road will overheat it, dirt roads will not, nor will snow unless you're spending 30+ minutes spinning the tires in the snow. It's just long stretches of under 5 MPH motion with high torque demands.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide There was another video where a guy was going up just a normal dirt road Hill and he Stopped. When he went to start going again the vehicle overheated within a minute of losing traction. You shouldn't have to worry hope or pray with your fingers cross that your brand new vehicle that's 4 wheel drive and marketed as Adventurous Will leave you stranded on a basic dirt Hill. Not when they can easily put a normal transmission in a fix the problem
@@chuckers40 And you'd be thinking wrong because the traverse and enclave use a special XL version of the C1XX platform that all the GM crossovers with the 3.6 use, that comes with a longer wheelbase, longer length, a modified version of the 3.6 that has more low end torque and extra frame reinforcements that give it up to 2100lbs of payload and 5000lbs of towing. The acadia used to be a rebadged traverse (like the yukon is tahoe) but for 2018 they made the traverse and enclave larger and the rest smaller to diversify and not compete directly against themselves.
Blech, in Canada they get ventilated seats and heated steering wheel. Those are killer apps for this segment. Yeah, there's the Sportage, but the Seltos is better in every way for 5k less. What could that possibly add in price, $100, the Canadian one is cheaper than the US model too. Yeah, yeah, you just can't convert America's hat money into America money, but still.
I like it, but I could have a Soul for much less money. Better dash in the Seltos, though. The 2020 Soul looks great, but the dash design language seems last generation.
Very attractive from the front and the back? Not sure how you can say that with a straight face. Rear is generic, front is like an updated Aztek. Kia has lost their way...The new Optima errr K5 and Telluride are the only good looking ones left.
Is this the Chevy Trail Blazer in KIA badging? I saw a Trail Blazer this past week and it looks just like this vehicle. The local Kia dealer is a circus environment meant to confuse you and sell you more and for more money than you intended.
What's up with the turbo fetish from the manufacturers these days? All for the sake of "fuel efficiency"? It puts a lot of stress on the engine, especially at this price point. Personally I cross out any vehicle with turbo from my shopping list. Just because the word "turbo" sounds cool, it doesn't make it cool. A lot of people don't know, and don't care I guess...
Efficiency and drive-ability. If an engine is designed from the ground up to use a turbo like we see here there is little evidence of long term stress on the engine being an issue, Europe has decades of research on this.
Alex on Autos that's understandable but I don't think a turbo system at this price point would be really reliable, maybe I'm wrong. But I test drove couple of turbo vehicles couple of years ago, and the turbo lag was really noticeable, even if it doesn't pose a long term stress to the engine.
@@mtalha909 Turbo lag is always a feature of a turbo engine, but reliability hasn't been an issue from what we've seen. Europe is full of smaller and cheaper turbos without an iddue.
Crosstrek is a very nice vehicle. My wife has one. Seltos is slightly larger inside and in the cargo area, but Crosstrek rides more smoothly. I personally also prefer the height of the Seltos, as it makes it a bit easier to get in and out of. And the warranty is hard to beat if you keep cars that long.
@@trdtrek6577 I have no issues with the way my Seltos rides. I do have a FWD vs AWD version though, so it might make a difference. My wife's crosstrek is a higher trim level, so not sure if that makes a difference. I do think it rides a bit better, but I find the Seltos a better fit for my needs/likes. Plus, I'm getting around 36mpg (again, the FWD version).
@@billjordan1173 .... I have limited Crosstrek. I have Hyundai Tucson and Toyota 4Runner also. I believe between those vehicles I believe my Crosstrek have much harder rides! It’s still nice ride and very happy with it. I gave it to my son as his rides now. Kids I swear! 😂
Appearantly Kia is throwing everything in their arsenal to the market. Unfortunately, what Kia lacks is brand and model integrity. Their all car models have completely different designs philosophies based on that year's best selling competition model. Am I the only one who thinks this car is "heavily influenced" by VW T-Roc?
They all have a Euro vibe and they all have common design elements because their head design staff is all from Germany and former VW/BMW/Audi/Mercedes engineers and designers.
KIA... sweet sweet Kia ... PUSH BUTTON START IS NOT A PRIVILEGE ANYMORE. Kia after Kia I see has a traditional key. It’s really getting on my nerves considering Nissan has had it standard on most models since 2006 or 7.
@Richard Favreau I'd say the best vehicle for you is a bicycle. No push button OR key needed to start, no engine to go wrong or break down, cheap as chips servicing, more fresh air than a drop-top, quiet, only two wheels to replace instead of four. Indirect fuel costs can be expensive, dependent on your diet.
Not a fan of the push button start. Had an instance where my wife and I went to the store, and she was driving. I didn't want to go in, so dropped her off and I took the car. Realized after a minute or so that she had the Fob in her purse, so there was nothing that I could do other than drive around until she came out. I had planned to drive over to another store and park until the car warned me the Fob was out of distance. Keys for me please, as long as I can get them. If I did have to use a fob, I would probably glue some kind of hook on the steering wheel column and hang it there while driving so I'd make sure it stayed with the driver.
Bill Jordan or u could just put your keys In your pocket. My mom and dad have keys to my moms compass (push to start) so they never have a issue. Keys are a hassle. I just ran into a woman leaving out her friends house late in the day had all type of stuff in her hands. Had to put everything down on the trunk to dig in her purse to get a stupid key out. Where if the car is push to start you can leave it in your pocket or purse and lock, unlock the door , and start the car. If you both have a key to each of your cars (which I strangely thought all couples did ) you shouldn’t have that issue again. Push to start is the second best thing on a car besides a backup camera.
The speaker grilles are reminiscent of at least the Hyundai Santa Fe's, using the similar geometric/rock-type pattern. But yeah, that tweeter looks like it was bent in at first glance. th-cam.com/video/SNI806iaOuk/w-d-xo.html Probably looks that way since they are much smaller and have less room for pattern repetition.
Kia is starting to make their trims just as confusing as Toyota. On some higher KIA trims you actually get less than you do on lower trims. They need to sort this out.
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Correction: Adaptive cruise control is found in the SX trim. My bad.
And it's awesome! And I prefer the 2.0 IVT over the 1.6t DCT for day to day use. Test drove both and picked the NA motor. Felt a lot smoother. And I get amazing gas milage as well. 40mpg on the highway and 28 city.
The SX Turbo has Forward Collision Avoidance, Highway Driving Assist and Smart Cruise Control (SCC) w/ Stop & Go, not found in the S Turbo, none of which are available also on the EX.
The strange pricing and feature bundling makes the Seltos a hard sell for me. I am not usually looking for the top of the line model, but with this car, I am forced there, if only for the safety features I can get in a Crosstrek or the CX-30 in either the base model or the one after it.
@@DavidDLee I agree. Kia does some strange things with their option packaging. I wish everyone would just do it like Honda.
Long time lurker here. Want to thank you, Alex, for your comprehensive reviews. This review helped cement my decision to purchase a new Seltos SX Turbo in November. It does suck you have to pony up to the top trim level to get the adaptive cruise and 10" screen, but it's still a good value (I got about $1200 off MSRP). I cross shopped the CX30, CrossTrek and Chevy Trailblazer and the Seltos came out ahead in driving dynamics and overall value in my book. (It was a hard choice btwn the Seltos and Crosstrek).
Thank you so much for explaining the DCT in your review. Most people think the DCT is just like a regular torque converter auto and expect it to behave like one. It is an automated manual indeed and for me its the best of both worlds.
Fords sure as hell did not work out well . Class action lawsuits for them. Me I would NEVER want one.
Alex does his best to explain the somewhat confusing trim level mixes of the Seltos. A simpler way to think about the approach is first to recognize that unlike a most other brands KIA typically offers few individual options or optional packages on various trim levels. Instead, KIA consolidates a large set of features to define a particular trim rather than pricing individual features (as many European brands do) or offering a number of optional "packages" for a particular trim level (as American and Japanese brands typically do.) The advantage of this approach from both KIA's and a consumer's perspective is that the overall production process is simplified, resulting in lower costs, some of which are passed on to consumers. The disadvantage and a complaint voiced by some consumers is that if you want feature "X", you have to select a more expensive trim that includes features "Y" and "Z" to get "X" rather than adding "X" as an individual option or "X" and "Y" as a option package to a lower price trim level.
In the case of the Seltos KIA has extended that approach in a way. Rather than providing a single trim level "ladder," they've provided two parallel ladders that combine in the top trim SX Turbo trim level. At the base level KIA offers two trims, the LX and the S. The LX offers a relatively comprehensive set of features including AWD for an MSRP of about $22,000. The S offers even more bells, whistles, and driver assistance/convenience features for the same base price but comes with FWD rather than AWD. (AWD can be added for $1500 raising the MSRP to nearly $23,500.)
One step up from the LX is the EX, a trim level that adds the "S's" bells and whistles that the LX lacks. The "S Turbo", a step up from the "S," comes standard with AWD, the more powerful 1.6L turbo engine, and a DCT transmission but it lacks some of the creature comforts of the EX. Again, the "EX" and the S Turbo have almost exactly the same MSRP. (EX: $25,290. S Turbo $25,490) Finally, the top trim SX Turbo combines the entire set of features in the separate trim levels. The turbo engine and DCT transmission from the "S Turbo" and all the bells, whistles, and creature comforts of the EX for $27,890 and an optional sunroof not available on any other trim for another $700.
If all that hasn't simplified the confusing Seltos offerings (and it probably hasn't), think of it as two trim ladders. "LX -> EX -> SX Turbo" versus "S -> S Turbo -> SX Turbo."
I think Alex is correct that the Seltos and the Mazda CX-30 are the two most appealing subcompact crossovers available, at least to me. The two are essentially equal in terms of power specs if one compares the 1.6L turbo in the Seltos to the 2.5L NA engine in the CX-30. The CX-30 offers a very slight advantage in terms of HP (186 vs 175) while the Seltos has a similarly slight advantage in terms of peak torque (195 vs 186). But the torque curve in the Seltos is much broader and reaches its peak at 1500 RPM while the CX-30 doesn't reach its peak torque until 4000 RPM. That's a significant plus for the KIA in terms of performance.
Furthermore, there's one crucial difference that Alex doesn't mention and it gives the Seltos a significant advantage (imo). The Seltos and CX-30 are essentially the same size in terms of length. In fact the Seltos is about an inch shorter than the CX-30 But the CX-30, like other Mazda CUV's sacrifices interior room, especially cargo space for what Alex calls its "pretty" looks that stems in part from its long hood/short body. The Seltos has 26.6 cubic ft of cargo space behind the second row compared to the 20.2 cf in the CX-30. But the huge difference is in total cargo space behind the first row, 62.8 cf in the Seltos vs 45.2 in the Mazda. In fact, the Seltos has more total cargo space than the larger compact Mazda CX-5 (59.6 cf). And the difference in capacity is the equivalent of a typical trunk in a midsize sedan. For a subcompact UTILITY vehicle, such generous cargo space is a MAJOR advantage. I agree with Alex that the CX-30 is "pretty." But for an SUV I prefer versatility over looks.
You place way too much weight on the cf as a number. The CX-30 and the Seltos got the same roller bag score, and the Accord SEDAN bested both with a 5 roller bag score with only 16.7 cf of trunk. I know this from personal experience after owning a 2014 Kia Soul. It theoretically has 24.2 cf of space behind the 2nd row, but I realistic couldn't carry most stuff or even pick up someone from the airport without putting one seat down. Also, It really just depends on your use case, because I know that for myself I would rarely if ever need more space than an average compact sedan.
@@panzer_TZ You're certainly correct that the shape of cargo space as well as the opening are critical in assessing cargo space in a vehicle. In an effort to derive a comparable metric Car and Driver used to fill a vehicle's cargo space with ping pong balls. Apparently they ran out of ping pong balls or decided no one actually tries to put more than a thousand ping pong balls in any vehicle. So they discontinued the effort. One Canadian TH-cam channel uses a set of objects including grocery bags, a stroller, a soccer ball and some other items as a "standard" measure. Another channel fills the cargo space with gigantic packages of toilet paper from Costco.
I'm not sure why the "roller bag" approach Alex uses should be considered the most appropriate approach compared to cubic feet especially since a vehicle should presumably carry as many roller bags as passenger seats and provide some more room for the incidentals that typically inhabit a trunk. Cubic feet isn't a perfect metric but it at least doesn't presume that the only cargo one ever carries are 1.3 cubic ft rectangular boxes.
Finally, I've made a number of runs to the airport in a KIA Soul and never had to put the rear seat down to transport a single passenger. Furthermore, a couple of years ago I was presented with the task of moving an entire household of "stuff" including boxes, paintings, and pieces of furniture to a large storage unit. The Soul performed admirably and reduced the number of trips required substantially Perhaps the difficulty you experienced in "pick(ing) up someone from the airport without putting the seat down" resulted from your friend/family member using one or two steamer trunks as luggage.
CX-30 is too small and tight on the inside. Although the Mazda looks a little better I’d have to go with the Kia for everything it offers.
@@panzer_TZ Yes, theory vs reality: Manufacturer-supplied cargo space specs should be taken with a grain of salt, though I'd expect more credibility from Mazda than just about anyone else, including Kia.
My experience with Mazda is their vehicles are noticeably smaller inside than competitors, regardless of advertised numbers. I really liked the CX-5 but ended up with a Rogue because the Rogue had WAY more real world interior room. I could barely fit in back seat behind the driver seat when set for my position in the CX-5. Forget putting rear facing child seats in the CX-5. I'm not a giant, I'm 5'11 which is taller than average but not by much.
I’m in the market for a new car and have been comparing the Kia Seltos, Mazda cx30, and Hyundai Kona. So I’ve been watching a lot of car reviews and comparisons. Yours has been one of the Most informative! Thank you! I also love the extra info overlays and the end comparison you did. 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
Great review and was really helpful in recommending a new Subcompact SUV to my mom. I recommended CX-30, Crosstrek, and the Seltos. The Seltos just won out on value, interior space, and exterior boxy SUV look. Seltos S model FWD for $19,700.
I just don't understand why everyone keeps referring to DCTs/PDK as a manual transmission...It changes gears automatically, no matter what the guts are...that's an automatic (of course, unless you have paddles and a manual mode...). It's just confusing non enthusiasts who just want to know am I shifting it, or the car? Enthusiasts know what a DCT or PDK is, so no need to describe it, and for non-enthusiasts, just call it an automatic, dual clutch transmission. If they are more interested, they will ask, what is a dual transmission? Then, by all means, feel free to go down the rabbit hole of why enthusiasts like to call it a manual that shifts automatically....Now that that's out of the way (and you're not the only one doing it...it's allllllllll car journalists), this is a great review. I'm in the market for a car for my sons to drive. Requirements from the wife is we get them something that has all possible safety features. For me, that includes an engine that can get out of its way. I liked the Seltos a lot when I drove it. I too drove the S Turbo, but haven't tried the SX Turbo yet, which does have a few more safety features that I would like to see working. Comparing this to the Mazda CX-30 (which I found too claustrophobic for a new driver), and the Subaru Cross Trek, which I really liked, except for the CVT. But, did like the NA engine over the turbo of the Seltos (which you can get as an NA engine with the lower trims). I love those speaker grills and the interior was very nicely laid out. I also drove the Hyundai Kona which seemed so cheap and small compared to the Seltos, CX-30, and the Cross Trek, so took it off the list right away.
Alex will NEVER stop using that "Kia's Forte" joke until he croaks
Never, ever, ever...
It's too easy! When fruit hangs low, you grab that fruit by the pointy parts and don't let go no matter what your mother says.
Don't forget about all the Hyundai cars that have red Accents on the dash.
damnit you beat me to it! i honestly believe he gets excited every time he is about to review a Kia souly for the purpose to tell that joke XD
It’s a great dad joke
Alex, I just saw the Seltos at the local Kia dealership. The Seltos is bigger than the pictures and videos imply.
It is definitely worth looking at.
I was surprised that the back seat was actually sit inable. Even with the driver's seat all the way back, like you I still had a coup,e inches of knee room.
I agree. I went to see the Niro (they didn't have one), so I sat in a Soul which was next to a Seltos. I was stunned at how much bigger it looked. I told the dealer if it came in a hybrid version, I would have bought one right there and then.
I'd easily choose an SX Turbo Seltos, but with the no sunroof option. I've never been a fan of them, and my current vehicle with a pano sunroof has leaked. Kia is knocking everything out of the park with pretty much all of their new vehicle designs.
Yeah so that turbo motor which is a ticking time bomb can leave you stranded. Just something else to go wrong and not cheap to replace, because you just know it will let go right after the warranty expires.
Purchased an 'S' trim FWD version of the Seltos in February. Didn't need the 4wd, and the 'S' trim (the only one with FWD) wasn't lacking any features I felt I needed, and got better gas mileage. I actually like the cloth/faux leather seats better than the faux leather ones as well, and only the LX and S trims offered those. As far as I'm concerned, when you consider cargo space, the only competitor in this segment is the crosstrek. The crosstrek is a very nice vehicle. My wife has a 2018 fully-loaded one. It drives more smoothly than the Seltos. But the Seltos sits up a bit higher like an SUV, so a little easier for entry/exit. Also, the cargo area of the Seltos will fit a fully-loaded golf bag, while I could not get my golf bag in the crosstrek easily unless I removed the longer clubs. Also, the Seltos is generally less expensive, at least in the lower trim-lines - and then there's the warranty. So far, love the Seltos.
I've got a 2016 Subie Crosstrek and I've been shopping for something else. If I stay in this segment then this little Seltos looks like the one I'd choose over the ones you've mentioned, Alex. I love the Mazda you reviewed but I have to go with all of the technology of the Seltos and to me it is as nice looking (or almost) as the Mazda. Just my 2¢.
This is really appealing to me. Looks snazzier than some I've been looking at.
Holy details! Very good video. Best I've seen on this vehicle.
I'm already seen these on the road in Canada. AWD is a huge selling point.
There's still dealer markup above MSRP, even in Alberta. Selling so quick!
1.6 t version with dct makes the awd pretty usless for any off roading
You can get the adaptive cruise control on the top trim SX turbo
The proportions look just right. I don't understand people buying the CUVs smaller than this but it's their money.
I'm a big Mazda fan, so I tend to be extra critical of their products. The CX-30 is a good CUV (especially compared to the competition when looking at it's lower trims) but it has several critical flaws IMO. (1) Small sight lines/green house. The belt line comes up so high and your sight lines are so narrow (same with the Mazda 3) that it'll deter a lot of customers that want the big airy SUV feel. (2) Outdated naturally aspirated engine. Yes it's less complex and less prone to failure than a turbo, but you're going to feel so sluggish compared with the competition. (3) No touch screens. In Mazda press briefings they consistently bring up how touchscreens are distracting and how their system is intuitive once you spend a few weeks with it... I know Mazda has their own principles and philosophy, but touch screens are what consumers want. Personally I love everything about the Seltos except the DCT. These 7 speed Hyundai DCTs are so prone to overheating if you try to do any sort of mild trail crawling for more than 5 minutes. TFL and others have shown it in the Kona and Seltos.
Mike R I agree with your thoughts on the DCT. Any sort of mild off-roading will fry this transmission most likely, with the clutch packs constantly engaging and disengaging. But since this thing will never see a rock chip and will be driven in much more urban environments, I wonder how it will fair in stop and go traffic. We all know DCTs are not very pleasant and can be jerky in low speed scenarios. I don’t personally agree with Hyundai/Kia’s philosophy on putting these complex transmissions in everyday commuter cars.
11:32 That's odd indeed. I saw the cargo cover in other Seltos reviews. Wonder why they leave it out for this trim.
About the mazda's info system, i think its practical, safer, ergonomic, i like it.. it is in the line of sight, you dont need to reach for the screen(less distraction) and is actually easy to use.. yeah i like it better than the usually distracting, you have to look down and reach, touch infosystems
Great seat belt tip, your the only one that has brought that one to us, I have had my SX AWD 1.6L 4cyl turbo. steel gray for four months now and really appreciated your review there in Texas.
I seen to where the 235 tires (Majesty 9 Solus TA91 Kumho's) on the Seltos have received good reviews. (T.R. reviews)
The 2021 KIA Seltos is a great buy, however, I don't understand why the Seltos in the USA lacks so many add on the Canada gets. Such as Heads Up Display, heated rear seats, pull up curtain on rear windows, an air filter system and cooled front seats to name a few. Same way in India. Why has KIA given other countries so many other nice accessories and not the US?
I have asked but no one can give me an answer. I feel like we as Americans are being discriminated against.
I thought this new Seltos is the best new vehicle you can buy under $30k and your review is in line withy my thinking. Long on strengths, short on weaknesses
Woke AF I like the Volkswagen Tiguan and 2 Mazda’s and CH-R by Toyota
A decent video and overview. I agree with you it’s a shame a company known for offering more than the class competitors can’t manage to offer smart adaptive cruise control in a vehicle that tops out around $30K when it’s becoming a must have feature for many. You highlight the trade offs with a dual clutch vs CVT but the best answers for many is a regular 6 or 8 speed automatic. Keep in mind Hyundai and Kia have a class action lawsuit against them for how horrible their DCT transmissions can be. The all new for 2021 Hyundai Tucson should flat out blow the Seltos away in many ways based on preliminary information and speculation. The Tucson is still in this class being around the same length as a Crosstrek but should offer some class leading tech including smart cruise, smart phone entry/keyless start, possible wireless Android auto/Apple car play, and even semi autonomous highway lane following as all those features are available on the cheaper 2021 Hyundai Elantra.
It does have Adaptive cruise control in the sx trim. Alex made a mistake.
Drew Croft you’re right about the adaptive cruise but sadly you’re stuck with the awful dual clutch to get it. That’s also true in some other Kia and Hyundai vehicles where they reserve the smart cruise for only the top end trim. Where, by comparison, it’s available on lower trims on cars like the Honda Civic or even Toyota Prius.
Just purchased the SX turbo. Only other vehicle I considered was the Crosstrek. Deciding factor: Subaru dealer not close enough! But...I AM having a blast in my new little stinker of a Kia. (Former vehicle was a 2014 loaded Jeep Grand Cherokee-I needed something much lower to get my canoe and kayak on top alone.).
I'm gonna go with Seltos. I was originally going with Mazda but the display screen not being touchscreen was not good. Also I like the way that Kia and Hyundai Konas has their display positioned - it's upright, whereas other cars tend to have it angled into the car.
Alex, the SX turbo Seltos comes with adaptive cruise control. Great review, as always.
And it’s a good adaptive cruise control. Demonstrated on a recent SX test drive....
also lane keeping assist. I love my SX Turbo. Will make a great Colorado car for me.
Well done Kia except for ACC. Which makes me stay away.
8:35..."designed for taller folks". Kia. Official vehicle of the NBA.
Yea ok. Let me see Shaq in that thing.
Taller folks not giants! 😂
I really like the look of the new Soul. I wish they gave that AWD option instead.
Gives the obligatory/overused "Fuel economy has never really been Kia's Forte", and then proceeds to give the Seltos an A+...
It’s amazing how similar the interior is to the Kia Soul. Other than AWD and better exterior proportions, not much reason to upgrade from that.
I saw one on the road and it is much better looking in person.
That's a sweet looking front end for today's age. Sensible grill with an actual painted bumper, and some slightly robot-looking styling.
If its base model only, than definitely CX30. But that 1.6L turbo is a screamer!
When discussing cargo space, it would be nice to always include flipping at least one rear seat back forward to show how flat the load floor is (did I miss it, in there?). Also, if registering 73 dB @ only 50mph, I'd rate the noise level at something a bit lower than "A-".
The cargo area has a 2 position floor - near flat and dropped about 4" - at least the ones in Canada do....they also have lots more features on each trim level...I test drove the 2.0 with IVT ( EX model here - there is one with almost everything except the turbo called EX Premium - all the safety/adaptive cruise etc - bigger screen, leather , LED lights, remote start- everything you could want ) and it was good - I don't care about 0-60...for highway driving just use your head - I can pass big trucks in my 2014 Kia Rio - I just know when to pass and when not to...and I'm never in a huge rush anyway ...
When comparing to other cars, what about safety, i.e., crash test?
That is a very majestic color.
Yes. Manual hand brake, please!
We've owned a Seltos SX Turbo for about two months now. It's my wife's car so I don't have a TON of insight yet, but the fact that it turns the engine off at stops is a bit... Weird. I understand why it does that, but it's something I just haven't gotten used to yet. I'll stick to my Niro EV, awesome car itself.
12:44
The same designer worked on the doors of the 2021 Hyundai Elantra.
Based on looks, I think I would choose the CX-30.
Samuel M same here Sam!
It does have radar adaptive cruise control
Alex, Did you say #headroom? What a concept. I hope Akio Toyoda and his cadre of TNJA* designers are watching. Toyota New Jockey Architecture .
@Richard Favreau We all have to get along. Please clarify, when you say "advantages" are you talking about surviving airline seats or shopping for size 13 shoes?
@Richard Favreau Being tall is totally overrated. You will never know the 10,000 things you didn't bang your head against.
This is selling like hot cakes in Indian market. Along with Hyundai Venue.
Are Korean cars popular in India? What are the most popular manufacturers?
@@samuelm5140 Yes they are very popular. Hyundai has been there for a long time. Kia just entered the market.
The Chevy Trailblazer is closer in size and price to the Seltos that the Trax. The Venue isn't Hyundai's closest competitor. The Kona is being that it is an actual a platform mate.
The new transmission in these is junk
Other then having some desirable features it’s awesome little suv. Great color!
I just wish car companies would ditch the fake exhaust tip looks. They don't even try to make them look believable, and it's even more ridiculous when you can actually see the real exhaust tip poking out from under the bumper.
Is there any video on the 2 liter and overheating? All I hear on overheating is the DCT only and no info on the 2.0 IVT, thoughts?
I don't think so. The DCT can overheat as it slips the clutch when trying to get through rough terrain.
Kias/Hyundais CVT are actually fairly reliable and not as iffy as most others.
So it'll most likely hold up fine.
And the dct will only overheat if kept under a constant hard load due to how it works. But will also be perfectly fine for regular driving with some minor off roading like going on a small trail or dirt path.
Just take it to do jeep things lol
Just to correct you slightly.
The Indian version of the Seltos is based on the Creta (ix25)
The global Seltos (the one in US) is based on the Ceed platform (Soul, Ceed, Elantra, Forte, Kona etc).
They are all related, however Kia's engineers say that the KX3/Seltos is more closely related to the IX25 than the Kona, although both are close cousins and share a lot of design components.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide thing is. The KX3 and the Seltos you were driving are different.
The KX3 is the same as the Indian Seltos that's also sold in some middle east countries.
It has a shorter wheelbase and is overall smaller. And has the ugly dash.
The global Seltos is larger. You can tell the 2 apart by the hood line
KX3 has the hood that goes to the edge of the chrome piece. The Kia logo is on the hood. The global version has the logo on the bumper.
Also the KX3 has completely different power train to the global spec Seltos.
We have the 1.6l NA 6AT, 2.0NA IVT and 1.6T 7DCT. While the KX3 and the Indian Seltos have 1.5NA and 1.4T 7DCT. As well as a diesel.
@@SergeiOzerov Correct, but the KX3 and Seltos are more or less stretched version/short version rather than totally different vehicles. Powetrains are interchangeable in most Kia/Hyundai platforms so you can't really go by that.
hi a new selto 2021 awd ex ,,,2155 miles on it....Transmission went ....and had 2 at the dealership waiting for knew motors runnnnnnnnnn away
I agree with your comment about Mazda’s infotainment system. That lack of touchscreen interface is a deal-breaker for me. I’m in Australia and RAV4 Hybrids have anywhere from 9 to 18 month wait time and that’s not even guaranteed so I ended up getting the Kia Seltos Sport+ Aussie model for my wife. Awesome review as always. Cheers!
On a different channel they mentioned road noise intrudes into the cabin depending on road surfaces. Why no power lift gate?
I do like the Mazda 3, but the cargo area isn't big enough to be practical. I like the roominess of this, but since I'm used to more upscale cars, this seems too noisy. Other than that I like it and it fits my self-image better than the Soul. With floor mats and a trunk mat it was almost $30k.
Who pays for floor mats and trunk mats? You always make them throw those in as part of the deal.
I agree with you Alex, I think the sweat spot is the 2.0 AWD EX. Better fuel economy, snazzier interior and 17 inch wheels which may quiet the cabin as far as tire noise? Thanks for another great review!
I was with you until you said no adaptive cruise control available. Now that I have it, I don’t want to live without it.
Adaptive cruise is available on the top trim. They should make it optional on all trims.
John Holst Ah ha. I see Alex made a correction. Thanks.
@@danielc3321 I've never had this feature before but I'm certainly interested- is it that good? Does it matter if it's full-stop adaptive cruise control?
So this or a Trailblazer? Most say that engine is the only thing holding a TB from being best offer this thing. When will you do a Trailblazer review video?
Wrong, Radar Adaptive Cruise Control is Available in the SX Turbo.
The intro song reminded me of Game Sack lol.
Can it take a loaded golf bag in the cargo area w/o lowering rear seats?
Yes. I had a Soul and traded if for the Seltos because of the larger cargo area, which fits my golf bad and 4-wheel push cart without having to put the seats down. 4 bags might be a stretch, but I think 2 can fit quite easily, though you have to keep them toward the back of the storage area where it juts out on the sides a bit. But If you took the drivers out of the bag, you could probably fit the bags anywhere in the storage area and just lay the drivers on top.
Does anyone have experience driving the Seltos AWD through snow? I'm really loving the Seltos, but I'm concerned with how it might handle the Maine weather.
argh . . . I have trouble classifying a FWD only as a CUV! The Niro, possibly. The Hyundai Venue, possibly. The Soul or the Toyota CH-R, I just can't do it.
Tough choice for me, Alex . . . It comes down to how much I intend to take it to those higher altitude trailheads . . . S 1.6T is quicker but that DCT, while it fits my driving personality, has serious issues at low speeds in climbing mode. The EX with the 2.0L and the CVT is going to be much better on those gravel/rock FS roads with the 'locking differential' and has better features (I really do want the moonroof!).
- I would seriously have to drive both to determine my choice!
What are my thoughts on the vehicles that you mentioned?
- the Crossteck is a sad example of how Subaru has lost it's touch with their reliability and is not on my radar.
- the CX-30 is, to me, a little dumpy looking . . . and Mazda will not get me considering one until the 6A is replaced by a 6M or a better Auto AND until they do something about that rear suspension.
- the Trax . . . no. Just no.
- same for the HR-V . . . a nice base CUV for those without a sporty bone in their body. No.
- the Jeep . . . just too many minuses. No.
- the Buick GX is intriguing . . . I am not a fan of those bitty motors but your review of that vehicle has it on my radar, as long as I am willing to limit the gravel roading.
The Seltos is at the top of my list right now with the debate being between the S 1.6 T and the EX. The Kona is on my radar (sportier, quicker, also a little too small and low for entry (bad back)), the previously mention Encore GX and the Niro (roomy, hybrid, but no AWD and a little low for entry).
p.s.: the Renegade is not 'pretty darned cute' to my eyes; that is one ugly rig. But, visual esthetics are seriously subjective, so, agreeing to disagree ;).
1) I like the exhaust ports . . . I could see cleaning being an issue though.
2) Competition . . . Most of this segment holds no interest to me. The CX-30 did until I sat in it, too hard to get in and out of. Subaru, no, Jeep, no. Kia Kona looks great, but likely to short for me.
Every time I see the Seltos I get excited. I think it is just the right size, right equipment . . . well, we'll see. Sitting and driving would be essential first . . . and next year is the soonest.
Ending music caught me a bit off guard.
I was thinking about a Corolla but this looks like it might be easier to enter and exit and might be more comfortable . Hmmm?
Really like the Seltos. Thanks for the review. I'm on my 5th Mazda in a row now (6 Signature) all of witch have been great cars, but am getting ready to switch brands. Why? No touch screen in the infotainment. I can't stand using that knob!
That's fair. I actually really like the knob control and got used to it after a while in my Mazda 3. Couldn't stand the fingerprints left on my screen.
I want a bench seat roll up widows and a 2 speed transmission please
I’m considering the S trim, FWD with CVT? Does anyone have one? How’s the reliability? First time Kia buyer. Had a Hyundai Elantra GT before and the experience was great!
That's exactly what I've had since February. Hard to say how reliability is at this point, but my Soul didn't give me a problem for the 3 years I owned it. For size and usability in terms of cargo space and interior seating space, I think the Seltos is the best choice in this segment, or at least a toss-up with the crosstrek.
Does the CVT have any of the overheating trans issues? Though I doubt many will really take it off roading as much as over reviewers have. Maybe just sandy/dirt soft roading and lots and lots of snow.
I have a Tucson with the same 7DCT. Keep up just a bit of momentum is all it needs. Sometimes I also turn ESP off to allow wheelspin but so far I havent gotten it stuck yet. I do have all terrain tires on it though :)
Can you please compare AWD Kia Seltos with Jeep Compass 4x4
There's not comparison, cause this one is much better and will outlast the Compass.
@@tousshong9438 The Seltos is better but not because it will "outlast" the Compass because most people that buy new cars will get rid of them after 5-7 years.
Love your detailed reviews. Seems like the 2.0 is not that slow in this segment. Do you think the EX trim with the 17” wheels is a bit, maybe 1 dB quieter than the SX with the 18” wheels?
@Alex I find that often the best/next most interesting car and value to the Kia's are their cousins in the Hyundai lineup... What would you pick between this and a Hyundai Kona and why?
Dude, this over the Kona. Kona such a compact and not as roomy.
@@tousshong9438 And the low seat position in the KONA. Too Low.
KIA up there game to compete with the big boys like Honda, Mazda, Toyota while keeping prize low as much as possible.
@Richard Favreau Exactly.
Be nice to see how this compares to the new Toyota Corolla Cross when it comes out.
apparently no AWD on that one
Believe it or not. Cargo area in cross is smaller than CHR.
How can a viewers say you have no personality when you have a playlist with such range
Awww.
The Seltos S turbo is ridiculously sparse for only being $2400 off the SX. Smaller infotainment display, no keyless entry, manual seats, manual climate controls, halogen fog and headlights instead of LED, key instead of push button start which also means you lose FOB-controlled remote start, no smart cruise control, no pedestrian detection braking, you lose the Bose audio, you lose the cargo cover (included on the SX), manual parking brake so no auto-hold braking.
I gave the SX a good look last month, but ended up going with a CX-5 turbo instead. With the discounts that Mazda was running, there was less than a $2500 difference in out-the-door price between the CX-5 GTR and a Seltos SX Turbo w/ Sunroof. When you're gaining heated steering wheel, heated and cooled seats made of actual leather, seat position memory, better audio, projection HUD, adaptive LED headlights, power liftgate, turbo engine with +75HP and +125ft-lb torque, and no traffic creep / uphill start DCT worries... at that point the CX-5 becomes a much easier choice.
The "S" trim is the 2nd from the bottom, not the top. LX, S, EX, SX
He's driving the S Turbo trim, which is second from the top.
I wanted to love this thing...I sooo wanted to. But it and the 2021 sorento have 1 huge flaw....a dual clutch transmission. Every review who put any strain at all on the awd have had it overheat. If you going down dirt roads or dealing with snow...I wouldn't put my faith in the dual clutch. Shame...
off road will overheat it, dirt roads will not, nor will snow unless you're spending 30+ minutes spinning the tires in the snow. It's just long stretches of under 5 MPH motion with high torque demands.
@@AAutoBuyersGuide There was another video where a guy was going up just a normal dirt road Hill and he Stopped. When he went to start going again the vehicle overheated within a minute of losing traction. You shouldn't have to worry hope or pray with your fingers cross that your brand new vehicle that's 4 wheel drive and marketed as Adventurous Will leave you stranded on a basic dirt Hill. Not when they can easily put a normal transmission in a fix the problem
My wife had a Jetta with a DCT. Shat itself at 70k. Never again a DCT, no matter the manufacturer.
@@Shadownian Fake news.
why did they neuter turbo in this one?
AWD
The 2020 Buick Encore GX Essence trim is down to $22's!
Waw is that still available?
Please compare this to the Bronco Sports.
the only competition for the telluride/palisade is the chevy traverse/buick enclave
and GMC Acadia
@@chuckers40 The gmc acadia is significantly smaller, more on par with the explorer and highlander.
@@james2042 I'm thinking all three vehicles(Traverse, Acadia, and Enclave) are smaller in length and less weight than their previous generation
@@chuckers40 And you'd be thinking wrong because the traverse and enclave use a special XL version of the C1XX platform that all the GM crossovers with the 3.6 use, that comes with a longer wheelbase, longer length, a modified version of the 3.6 that has more low end torque and extra frame reinforcements that give it up to 2100lbs of payload and 5000lbs of towing. The acadia used to be a rebadged traverse (like the yukon is tahoe) but for 2018 they made the traverse and enclave larger and the rest smaller to diversify and not compete directly against themselves.
@@james2042 thank you for correcting me. now I know
Blech, in Canada they get ventilated seats and heated steering wheel. Those are killer apps for this segment. Yeah, there's the Sportage, but the Seltos is better in every way for 5k less. What could that possibly add in price, $100, the Canadian one is cheaper than the US model too. Yeah, yeah, you just can't convert America's hat money into America money, but still.
divorced headlights lmao
Why reupload? You already posted seltos review.
We had a short drive at the launch event, now we were able to review it at home, 0-60 test, handling test, etc
I like it, but I could have a Soul for much less money. Better dash in the Seltos, though. The 2020 Soul looks great, but the dash design language seems last generation.
Very attractive from the front and the back? Not sure how you can say that with a straight face. Rear is generic, front is like an updated Aztek. Kia has lost their way...The new Optima errr K5 and Telluride are the only good looking ones left.
Why don't we talk about the safety ratings of the cars you review?
Is this the Chevy Trail Blazer in KIA badging? I saw a Trail Blazer this past week and it looks just like this vehicle. The local Kia dealer is a circus environment meant to confuse you and sell you more and for more money than you intended.
Limit Crosstrek has more safety features than Seltos like steering responsive headlights and reverse automatic braking.
No it’s not! I have Crosstrek!
@@trdtrek6577 If your Crosstrek doesn’t have Steering Responsive Headlights and reverse automatic breaking, then your Crosstrek isn’t limited trim.
I do have it but that doesn’t make it better is what I am saying!
A new model to catch 🔥.... 😜
This turbo trim is more expensive than Rav4 hybrid!
Base trim.
What's up with the turbo fetish from the manufacturers these days? All for the sake of "fuel efficiency"? It puts a lot of stress on the engine, especially at this price point.
Personally I cross out any vehicle with turbo from my shopping list. Just because the word "turbo" sounds cool, it doesn't make it cool. A lot of people don't know, and don't care I guess...
Efficiency and drive-ability. If an engine is designed from the ground up to use a turbo like we see here there is little evidence of long term stress on the engine being an issue, Europe has decades of research on this.
Alex on Autos that's understandable but I don't think a turbo system at this price point would be really reliable, maybe I'm wrong. But I test drove couple of turbo vehicles couple of years ago, and the turbo lag was really noticeable, even if it doesn't pose a long term stress to the engine.
@@mtalha909 Turbo lag is always a feature of a turbo engine, but reliability hasn't been an issue from what we've seen. Europe is full of smaller and cheaper turbos without an iddue.
@Richard Favreau Toyota has a fleet of turbos coming soon...
Crosstrek is my top pick for this segment.
Crosstrek is a very nice vehicle. My wife has one. Seltos is slightly larger inside and in the cargo area, but Crosstrek rides more smoothly. I personally also prefer the height of the Seltos, as it makes it a bit easier to get in and out of. And the warranty is hard to beat if you keep cars that long.
Crosstrek rides better? I have one and it’s bit rough! Nice car though!
@@trdtrek6577 I have no issues with the way my Seltos rides. I do have a FWD vs AWD version though, so it might make a difference. My wife's crosstrek is a higher trim level, so not sure if that makes a difference. I do think it rides a bit better, but I find the Seltos a better fit for my needs/likes. Plus, I'm getting around 36mpg (again, the FWD version).
@@billjordan1173 .... I have limited Crosstrek. I have Hyundai Tucson and Toyota 4Runner also. I believe between those vehicles I believe my Crosstrek have much harder rides! It’s still nice ride and very happy with it. I gave it to my son as his rides now. Kids I swear! 😂
Appearantly Kia is throwing everything in their arsenal to the market. Unfortunately, what Kia lacks is brand and model integrity. Their all car models have completely different designs philosophies based on that year's best selling competition model. Am I the only one who thinks this car is "heavily influenced" by VW T-Roc?
They all have a Euro vibe and they all have common design elements because their head design staff is all from Germany and former VW/BMW/Audi/Mercedes engineers and designers.
KIA... sweet sweet Kia ... PUSH BUTTON START IS NOT A PRIVILEGE ANYMORE. Kia after Kia I see has a traditional key. It’s really getting on my nerves considering Nissan has had it standard on most models since 2006 or 7.
@Richard Favreau I'd say the best vehicle for you is a bicycle. No push button OR key needed to start, no engine to go wrong or break down, cheap as chips servicing, more fresh air than a drop-top, quiet, only two wheels to replace instead of four. Indirect fuel costs can be expensive, dependent on your diet.
Lmao. Dude cars are stolen daily because of those stupid keyless fob and push start. Look it up. Give me a key any day.
Not a fan of the push button start. Had an instance where my wife and I went to the store, and she was driving. I didn't want to go in, so dropped her off and I took the car. Realized after a minute or so that she had the Fob in her purse, so there was nothing that I could do other than drive around until she came out. I had planned to drive over to another store and park until the car warned me the Fob was out of distance. Keys for me please, as long as I can get them. If I did have to use a fob, I would probably glue some kind of hook on the steering wheel column and hang it there while driving so I'd make sure it stayed with the driver.
Bill Jordan or u could just put your keys In your pocket. My mom and dad have keys to my moms compass (push to start) so they never have a issue. Keys are a hassle. I just ran into a woman leaving out her friends house late in the day had all type of stuff in her hands. Had to put everything down on the trunk to dig in her purse to get a stupid key out. Where if the car is push to start you can leave it in your pocket or purse and lock, unlock the door , and start the car. If you both have a key to each of your cars (which I strangely thought all couples did ) you shouldn’t have that issue again. Push to start is the second best thing on a car besides a backup camera.
Richard Favreau Corolla ? Sports sedan ? So I guess u think 2+2 =1,234,675. Because what ?
Actually a nice looking vehicles. Too bad the front skid plate looking thing is plastic and the rear has no visible exhaust.
The speaker grilles are reminiscent of at least the Hyundai Santa Fe's, using the similar geometric/rock-type pattern. But yeah, that tweeter looks like it was bent in at first glance.
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Probably looks that way since they are much smaller and have less room for pattern repetition.
Kia is starting to make their trims just as confusing as Toyota. On some higher KIA trims you actually get less than you do on lower trims. They need to sort this out.