Update! I spoke with John from DF regarding the LOD having been reduced, and this appears to be a bug. I still have to test this but supposedly this might be related to having the game installed on a secondary m.2 instead of the default storage on PS5. If so, I'll forward this info to insomniac for a possible fix. Good morning everyone! Glad to finally get this video out - I've been sick the past 3 weeks now which has made it difficult to record my voice and concentrate on editing. The game is fantastic and was a nice distraction. This was also an interesting video to put together. I've got hundreds of clips recorded here that I couldn't fit in, so there's a lot more to see! Stay tuned for more content in the near future :)
One of the most incredible sound design choices, MINOR SPOILER: As Peter becomes consumed by the symbiote, the sounds of the city become muted. It's very eerie, and so well executed.
I feel like these compromises in certain areas were absolutely worth it, especially considering how they were able to get raytracing running on the performance mode
@@midarch Nah that isn't true. RT was added to the remastered version which is not available on PS4. The "first game" denotes the original Spider-Man PS4.
@@tsg712-t7e a remaster does not change the fact that its the first spiderman game by insomniac, and there is a mode on that game that has ray tracing on at 60fps. furthermore, if we contextualize ourselves with the video it would make much more sense that im refferring to the ps5 update.
I think you can truly feel the difference only when they're side by side but that's not a bad thing, it just speaks to how good the first one was made. Edit: for people saying it’s a bad thing guys we will never see that big of a leap in graphics anymore between generations. We’re already at almost photorealistic levels so of course now only small details will improve
@@collieee2957 I guess, but why this factor? She wasn't even in her mid 20's lol. Peter stayed the same as well as Miles. But MJ aged 10 years. Looks like a soccer Mom in her MID 20's.
You probably get this a lot but I really appreciate the professionalism and attention-to-detail as you meticulously go through everything the game has to offer. Just a question from me as this is a little concern I had with the game - how did you find the overall pacing and length of the narrative, did it feel rushed or was there enough time to explore the content of the plot?
Pacing and narrative felt great. I never felt bored with the story but also felt like I was given plenty of opportunities to screw around and explore New York between missions without it feeling out of place. It's overall very well done. I think the story plays it safe, as did the first game (probably because they're limited in what they're actually allowed to do with licensed characters like this), but it's way better than most of the marvel movies lately.
@@SILK97 For me personally it came from the knowledge of the length of the game. I heard the game was around 15-20 hours to beat which is on it's own not a bad thing and is similar to the length of the first game. However, this game seems significantly bigger than the first game with the amount of plot points and characters it has introduced and continnued from the first game - therefore, I thought trying to fit more into the same amount of time might lead to the game feeling rushed to an extent.
Damn the time of day being fixed seems like a huge oversight. In Miles you could even control the weather. They need to bring that back in an update, especially now that they've improved the nighttime look so much.
The Chrysler building is my favorite building in the whole world. To me it's a way more iconic NYC landmark than the Empire State building. When they removed it, that honestly made me more upset than Peter's face change. I specifically adore the scene in Raimi's SM1, when Ben had just died and Peter was just sitting on one of the eagles, processing his loss
@@SMthegamer1 I mean, compare it to the Empire State building. The latter is just kind of a tall blocky building that narrows to a boring looking lightning rod. The top of the Chrysler building has those beautiful art deco arches with a pattern of triangle shaped windows, that narrow to a magnificent stinger, and below you got the patriotic eagle gargoyles coming out of the corners. It is a true work of art.
great video as always nick! one thing i don’t see too many people point out is your natural ability to pick up and play any game with lots of confidence and competence! it makes every direct comparison and review that much better!
I finished the game, did all the side quests, unlocked all the upgrades, and I'm overall very satisfied with the game. The series is starting to feel a bit formulaic now, but it's still a lot of fun. I look forward to where the series will take us in future installments. I just hope they don't go the multiverse route. We've been getting plenty of that with No Way Home and the Spider-Verse movies. There's plenty more you can do in THIS universe without having to resort to travelling through the multiverse. It seems like the Green Goblin will likely be a big antagonist of the next game. Maybe he'll even merge with the red symbiote and become the Red Goblin.
@Nick930 A comparison of the 2005 King Kong movie game to the newly released and highly derided Skull Island: Rise of Kong game would be interesting to see.
Rise of kong was graphicaly made the way it is on purpose which is clear to see so comparing graphics is pointless tbf but gameplay wise 2005 king kong slays easily
@@SMthegamer1 for you, maybe, for others its great to have a choice of what time of day they would like to play at, personally love how the game looks at night, it was killing me that it was stuck in day time. though it would be nice to have an option for natural day/night cycle too.
@@nightwing6287 Sorry I should have gone into more detail, I'm not saying there shouldn't be an option to manually switch, it's something I use heavily in games that implement the feature for photo mode and it was sorely missed in my Platinum Spider-Man 2 playthrough. I'm saying by default there should be a natural cycle, with the manual option being something the player chooses to use similar to the first game (never actually checked if it was in Miles' game) but is not required to change it at all.
Another detail that you didnt seem to mention, it appears there are also more new car models (only saw 3) and some new and overhauled boat and ship models in the waters surrounding the city.
The version showing on the screen is sometimes displayed incorrectly. E.g. at 14:10 you are clearly showing Spiderman Remastered, and at 14:14 you switch to Spiderman 2, but the version in both does not change (it is Spiderman 2 through both scenes).
Whoops. Happens sometimes. Should be obvious to anyone still based on what im saying. I was coughing up a lung while editing so it was harder to focus than usual
27:20 about the suits… in the previous game you can use any suit ability on any suit. So for example if I want the Iron Spider tendrils on the 2099 suit you can do that Spider-Man 2018 as well as Miles Morales.
They changed the anisotropy on the default suit to be more like the pre-release suit from the first game. The anisotropy made more sense on that pre-release suit because of the ridged texture pattern of the material. When they changed the pattern to hex shapes, the specular highlights bent in multiple directions, resulting in the more even lighting we saw in the release version of the default suit from the first game. I guess they just decided they preferred a silkier shine on top of the hex pattern this time around.
LOD distance really seems to be a bug. It looks a lot better when I'm playing. And my first impression starting the game was that when looking over the city or swinging/flying high, it looks much more detailed and varied in the distance than before.
Maybe. My first thought was that the downgrades allowed for faster loading. When you fast travel, switch Spider-Men, get thrown half-way across the map by the Sandman, etc, the game covers a huge distance with no loading screens or stutters.
You may not have the deep technical know-how of Digital Foundry (which can always be learned). But your sharp eyes for details are often more impressive than DF. This comparison series has become more and more refined and professional as a result of your efforts. Dare I say it's actually a must-watch for any graphics-conscious player. Thanks for making these, great stuff.
Great work! I'm still hoping for Fallout 4 comparison to Starfield. I would really like to see your deep dive into those improvements if there are any.
@@aepallenp I'm aware of that. Nick has done comparisons like that in the past. Like Call of Duty comparison to Battlefield or Quantum break against Control, which is very much the same type of comparison, different game but same developer.
I think they both look amazing. But if I'm to be honest, I actually think the Remastered looks better. Maybe it's just because I'm on a phone, but the only real pro that sticks out with 2 is that it's lighting is far more natural.
The lighting in the remastered is superrrrr hit and miss. Looks great in interiors but if there’s sun anywhere, the whole game is darkened in a botched way
honestly same which sucks as they have downgraded buildings from far away which is what you'll mostly be seeing when traveling/swinging, like at 16:43 one of the best views in the last game looks empty and low quality now
The parallax mapped rooms in the windows of the buildings have also been upgraded. They also have moving people in them! I'd love to know how they managed that.
Insomniac Games uses a system of ray-tracing fake rooms that are buried underground in the city. This is to make sure they’re nearby to be called when needed. Each fake room has a basic layout and then different variations on furniture and characters. When Spider-Man looks into a window, the game uses the ID of that window to randomly select one of the fake rooms to render. The game also casts rays back through the window to get a sense of the key light and shadows, which are then used to light the fake room. This system allows Insomniac to create realistic interior reflections, even for windows that are side-by-side. It also allows them to add details like animated ceiling fans and NPCs watching TV. This is pretty cool and very smart because it helps the game load faster. The fake rooms are located underground in the city to save performance. The game only needs to render the fake rooms once, and then it can use them for all of the windows in the city. The rooms are not as detailed as the game world, but they are still good enough to create convincing reflections.
when I pre ordered the game I realized I was not gonna see the wonders of how the game would look at 4k so I actually bought a monitor to play the game at 4k with hdr just so I could actually everything in all its glory. This video (and the video about the remaster and the original spiderman) makes me appreciate getting the higher end monitor and not just settling for my regular 1080p monitor.
I have been waiting for this games release for 5-6 years now and will be able to get the game on the 3rd of November, the hardest part is going to be not looking at gameplay footage of the game to not have any major spoilers and I really do hope that Spider-Man 2 wins game of the year
Realistically, it would probably be Baldur's Gate 3 but does it matter if it wins or not? I would be happy if it got nominated but it ain't gonna be GOTY I think.
I may be wrong but in Suit comparison I think its a minor detail, Spider man 1 original suit color is more vibrant than Spider man 2 meaning the color fades away over time, due to laundry and less texture due to lint damage fabric problems etc lol Peter needs a 2.0 suit also from a practical perspective just a theory
Particularly when the building is in the first game but they already took it out in miles morales still a dumb decision whoever decided this is a money hungry greedy a hole and can Rott in hell
I kind of find it interesting how some put so much importance to shadows, i rarely stop and contemplate my or others shadow when i am playing a video game. I guess for objects it matters more.
That construction site from the the first game that had the big set piece was built in Miles' game btw. Oh and fyi you also could fast travel from the map to specific locations not just from the subways. Lastly I really love the sound of the wind wooshing by whilst swinging in SM2!
What a great job they did in these 5 years ! They added the whole new color grading, now this definitely looks next gen !!!! Blue tint =next gen, Yellow tint =last gen. Color tint is the biggest generational difference !
I wonder if the remaster or original games had updates to get the visuals to where it is today. Could just mean the launch version of Spider-man 2 might get some as well to get it patched too like the first game to continue improving.
This is such a gorgeous game. I absolutely love it. My only complaint is that it feels shorter than the first. It might be because the challenges aren't all that challenging this time around, and less mandatory collectibles. Also the new traversal is much faster!
Game feels longer for me, side content wasn't all that great. At least, the endings weren't. Mysteriums left more to be desired, all those Spider-Bots just for a cameo most have to look up to know who she is, etc.
@@octolockg5059 Well you can blame the Spider-Verse folks for that. Apparently she was supposed to have a noticeable role in the movie and they cut it.
@@kaushikkv8423 And the Sandman battle. THe Ps4 wouldn't be able to handle it. As well as the transition between characters. The harddrive of the Ps4 would explode.
Great side-by-side comparison, Nick, you covered almost everything. Insomniac did a fantastic job with Spider-Man 2, not only improving the general visuals (Ray Tracing in all modes) but also keeping the revisit of New York interesting thanks to culling the more boring aspects (like car chases or obligatory random encounters) and adding new features, both in combat but even more so in traversal. When you experience the full powered web suit for the first time it's almost breathtaking at which speed you rush across New York while the engine keeps up those FPS. Sure it costs a bit of detail in far off LOD, but thanks to the more detailed surrounding area on the other side of the Hudson the overall impression is a better one. So far I'm enjoying every moment of it despite having played the previous games twice on PS5 and later on PC. Don't forget to just walk around on ground level, the new overall density feels much more like a vivid metropolis!
Thet just reskinned the old assets and added rt on top of that, what fantastic job ? They literally almost did no job at all. 90 percent of props and from previous games.
Imo and I think most of the people agree with me here... My only Major complain with this game is MJ's Face Model, First game's face was perfect, She looks like MJ's Elder Sister or Aunt instead of MJ now Imo. I'm ok with here open hair, but Face is just unsettling to me.
To get the full PS5 experience I feel we shouldn’t have to “compromise” on so much. Why’d I buy a $900 console for such a slight upgrade and sometimes even downgrade? Faster loading times? That’s it?
Commenter misses the reason why SM1 received a remaster: It was released at the tail-end of the PS4's lifecycle and with the release of PS5 there was plenty of reason to revisit it for a dedicated PS5 version.
Why would it release a year or two down the line? The only reason why Spiderman 2018 was remastered was because a Ps5 came out. Maybe for the Pro they can do something? But I doubt it'll look that signficiantly better.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but there is a dock in Miles Moralez that we visit during one of the side missions that is just gone in Spider-Man two. I don’t remember which dock exactly but it’s on the right side of the Manhattan map. The dock used during the mission where you help local business in Miles’s game.
They wrecked MJ on purpose. It's the same thing we've seen with most games now. Give the women broad shoulders, wider jawlines, no makeup, and clothes that are much less revealing. It fits with he current narrative of making women in entertainment look like men. We've all see the memes and side by sides, so there's no need for debate. In the case of MJ, it's so jarring, that there's no way to deny the changes. Nor excuse them. Regardless of the character's age up. Nonetheless, the game does look good, but as Nick points out, there are weird compromises for the larger map. I don't need a larger map or more checklists. I need a game that's tighter and has meaningful questing. I long for the days of Fallout New Vegas or more recently The Witcher 3. Most who have gotten their hands on this game have noted that the new areas to explore don't add anything to it. And judging by the trade offs, it would seem to be the case. I'll still play the game for the experience, but as with most AAA games nowadays, bigger doesn't always mean better.
You compared Spider-Man, an open world action adventure game, to two RPGs. It’s like being annoyed that Assassin’s creed 3 doesn’t have as many quests as Skyrim.
Overall very good but i was quite disappointed by the lack of lip syncing, npc models and some of the janky animations (look at peters friend when he rides the bicycle. He looks like he is on a horse?)
@@SwurvGG well ok let me back up a bit I’m sorry I said that honestly it was your opinion honestly and that was fucked Ik for me to say but yea the game is literally better NO not in every single way but in most ways it is
@@jaylinthegoat145 ? i'm just talking about the reflection animations. the first game had them at half and quarter rate. i was asking if the 2nd game still had it. this video didn't really touch on that subject. maybe you're confusing my post with someone else's?
One thing I did find in Spider-Man 2 is that it can seem a lot harder to replenish your health mid fight to the point of being a grind but mastering the parry system is an excellent trade off.
@@Birort It literally has so many major improvements in every aspect lmao don't know what these clown kids are smoking🤡 The Story, narration, mechanics, web swinging, traversal, combat, side quests it literally improved upon every single thing
Fun fact: The in-universe justification for the Chrysler Building being gone in the sequel is that it is "on vacation." This is referencing a time in the comics where the building literally came to life and started making trouble. The solution for the problem was sending the building on vacation.
I really hope they add in the option to change time of day Morning, midday, evening and nighttime. Also maybe a continuous cycle of time of day with a dynamic weather option
Hi Nick, you should also make a video comparing the original PS4 version compared to SM2 on PS5 just to see how much of a difference is between generations
I personally think the old Advanced Suit looks better in terms of design than the new main suit for Spider-Man 2, even if the detail is lower. Both in terms of design but also in terms of the appearance of the surface texture. For example, I think the checkerboard pattern on the spider logo looks too obvious now. However, I feel the exact opposite in regards to Miles's suits.
I see no reason to get the new 'Spider-Man 2' game. All the changes and strange 'features', like the spider legs coming out of the back and such innovations introduced by the movie, just don't make it the same for me anymore. Additionally, the gameplay is absolutely identical - it's like buying the same game every year, just like with 'FIFA', or now the new 'FC24'. I find it ridiculous.
It's alot different and the arms don't originate from the movies 😂 also combat is alot better as well as swinging around but whatever makes you feel better
I wouldn't expect you to know this but, there was a short dialogue scene in the game where Miles talks to his barber and his new hair is not dreadlocks. They are twists, which are visually similar to dreadlocks when starting to grow them. Twists are cleaner looking and more uniform than dreadlocks.
I'm getting it day 1 for PS5 but I'm really looking forward to it being released on PC. Hopefully it's not a long wait. Mods for Spiderman are really cool, it's not just costumes. There are environmental changes, animations specific to a movie or other Spidey game, even the music while swinging.
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Update!
I spoke with John from DF regarding the LOD having been reduced, and this appears to be a bug. I still have to test this but supposedly this might be related to having the game installed on a secondary m.2 instead of the default storage on PS5. If so, I'll forward this info to insomniac for a possible fix.
Good morning everyone! Glad to finally get this video out - I've been sick the past 3 weeks now which has made it difficult to record my voice and concentrate on editing. The game is fantastic and was a nice distraction. This was also an interesting video to put together. I've got hundreds of clips recorded here that I couldn't fit in, so there's a lot more to see! Stay tuned for more content in the near future :)
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Hope you feel better Nick! Can't wait to see more content from you 👋😁
Why didn't you make a review
@@MetalDeathHead Because what you just said is completely false.
@@Nick930 he tried, lol. people who cant play this game are very angry! good video
One of the most incredible sound design choices, MINOR SPOILER:
As Peter becomes consumed by the symbiote, the sounds of the city become muted. It's very eerie, and so well executed.
even tho spoiler was not needed thank u for that a lot of people spoilers content in comments
I‘m just glad that Miles still has the exaggerated swagger of a black teen.
I’m also glad that Peter has the disciplined Acrobatics of a white male
on god
😂😂😂
🤣 people will never forget
Im glad Harry has to deal with a difficult rich father like a typical white young adult.
I feel like these compromises in certain areas were absolutely worth it, especially considering how they were able to get raytracing running on the performance mode
raytracing was on performance mode too in the first game
@@midarchthey added RT performance mode on the Remastered version and Miles Morales, but now RT will be on regardless of the mode
@@midarch Nah that isn't true. RT was added to the remastered version which is not available on PS4. The "first game" denotes the original Spider-Man PS4.
@@tsg712-t7e a remaster does not change the fact that its the first spiderman game by insomniac, and there is a mode on that game that has ray tracing on at 60fps. furthermore, if we contextualize ourselves with the video it would make much more sense that im refferring to the ps5 update.
Might even be fixed with the day 1 patch tbh
"The Fink building."
Ah yes that well known Marvel villain, William Fink.
"New Spiderman game...what do y'all Fink?" :p
larry fink, the real life super villain
I think you can truly feel the difference only when they're side by side but that's not a bad thing, it just speaks to how good the first one was made.
Edit: for people saying it’s a bad thing guys we will never see that big of a leap in graphics anymore between generations. We’re already at almost photorealistic levels so of course now only small details will improve
It is a bad thing, because it's release on 2 different generations. And you may say that is remastered version of the first game, but still.
@@KDreamer13sorry but that's how it will be now
@@guillegarcia7146I know, and it's make me sad 😢
@@KDreamer13 what's sad
@@TheChillStart that games now will slowly evolve instead of make a big leaps ahead
the licensing issue with chrysler building is such a bummer
The empire state building is an equally sad loss. It's probably my biggest issue with the game besides the MJ missions
@@stephenthedude4383wdym it’s in the game
@@westhunter2938 isn't it just a look alike? I thought they couldn't get the actual building
The fact that someone can license a building, that’s on the middle of a major city, is ridiculous.
14:08 “The Fink tower building” 😭
I instantly came to the comments hoping someone else heard that😂😂
MJ didn't just age a couple of years. It feels like she went to her 30's.
Karens age faster
Some people do age like that so it’s not that unreasonable
@@collieee2957 I guess, but why this factor? She wasn't even in her mid 20's lol. Peter stayed the same as well as Miles. But MJ aged 10 years. Looks like a soccer Mom in her MID 20's.
@@awsomeboy360 haha, yeah I really don’t know why they would do that in a video game but it doesn’t bother me tbh
Late 30s
I know I'm not alone in saying this, but seriously MJ's character model in Spiderman 2 feels a little off, almost a little unsettling sometimes.
uncanny valley
I like it a lot better, I thought the previous mj looked strange, like a fish at times
@@snusemcgoose1001this!
They did it on purpose
Yep, that's why they need makeup.
You probably get this a lot but I really appreciate the professionalism and attention-to-detail as you meticulously go through everything the game has to offer. Just a question from me as this is a little concern I had with the game - how did you find the overall pacing and length of the narrative, did it feel rushed or was there enough time to explore the content of the plot?
Pacing and narrative felt great. I never felt bored with the story but also felt like I was given plenty of opportunities to screw around and explore New York between missions without it feeling out of place. It's overall very well done. I think the story plays it safe, as did the first game (probably because they're limited in what they're actually allowed to do with licensed characters like this), but it's way better than most of the marvel movies lately.
Why did everyone have this concern about pacing in the game? I’ve been seeing it everywhere but no idea where it came from
@@SILK97 For me personally it came from the knowledge of the length of the game. I heard the game was around 15-20 hours to beat which is on it's own not a bad thing and is similar to the length of the first game. However, this game seems significantly bigger than the first game with the amount of plot points and characters it has introduced and continnued from the first game - therefore, I thought trying to fit more into the same amount of time might lead to the game feeling rushed to an extent.
@@Nick930 'way better than most of the marvel movies lately' nailed it couldn't agree more
@@Nick930nick talk me good news
Damn the time of day being fixed seems like a huge oversight. In Miles you could even control the weather. They need to bring that back in an update, especially now that they've improved the nighttime look so much.
are we sure its not in a hidden menu setting? maybe it'll be enabled with a day one patch.. I guess we'll really find out tomorrow
@@noodle_Cxdevs confirmed its not in game yet but will probably be added in a later update because the first two games didn't have it day 1 either
@@Fiveyrkgosgame went gold yet they didn’t bother add in that of all things
@@Fiveyrkgosyou can when you exit the house
When you exit the house you can change it
The Chrysler building is my favorite building in the whole world. To me it's a way more iconic NYC landmark than the Empire State building. When they removed it, that honestly made me more upset than Peter's face change. I specifically adore the scene in Raimi's SM1, when Ben had just died and Peter was just sitting on one of the eagles, processing his loss
Yeah it blows they had to remove it. I wish they'd at least tried to replace it with something more art deco
Out of interest, why do you like it so much?
To me it's always just looked like every other boring American skyscraper.
@@SMthegamer1 I mean, compare it to the Empire State building. The latter is just kind of a tall blocky building that narrows to a boring looking lightning rod. The top of the Chrysler building has those beautiful art deco arches with a pattern of triangle shaped windows, that narrow to a magnificent stinger, and below you got the patriotic eagle gargoyles coming out of the corners. It is a true work of art.
damn they removed it?
@@micahsarm Yep. The owners of the real Chrystler building revoked the right to use it in a videogame. For some reason.
You really deserve much more credit than right now, your videos are so full of detail that covers everything we would've wanted to see in a comparison
great video as always nick! one thing i don’t see too many people point out is your natural ability to pick up and play any game with lots of confidence and competence! it makes every direct comparison and review that much better!
Npc
31:39 did that guy just do the N4z¡ salute?!
I finished the game, did all the side quests, unlocked all the upgrades, and I'm overall very satisfied with the game. The series is starting to feel a bit formulaic now, but it's still a lot of fun. I look forward to where the series will take us in future installments. I just hope they don't go the multiverse route. We've been getting plenty of that with No Way Home and the Spider-Verse movies. There's plenty more you can do in THIS universe without having to resort to travelling through the multiverse. It seems like the Green Goblin will likely be a big antagonist of the next game. Maybe he'll even merge with the red symbiote and become the Red Goblin.
Those changes to MJ ...
She let herself go after black cat died lol
@@tylerthere5832 Black Cat didn't die.
@Nick930 A comparison of the 2005 King Kong movie game to the newly released and highly derided Skull Island: Rise of Kong game would be interesting to see.
Never played the 05 King Kong game but it looks better graphically and gameplay to the new one which is crazy to me.
Rise of kong was graphicaly made the way it is on purpose which is clear to see so comparing graphics is pointless tbf but gameplay wise 2005 king kong slays easily
They have to add a time of day changer , staying at that daylight setting after beating the story is crazy
Ideally I'd want a normal day/night cycle, switching manually is immersion breaking
@@SMthegamer1 for you, maybe, for others its great to have a choice of what time of day they would like to play at, personally love how the game looks at night, it was killing me that it was stuck in day time. though it would be nice to have an option for natural day/night cycle too.
@@nightwing6287 Sorry I should have gone into more detail, I'm not saying there shouldn't be an option to manually switch, it's something I use heavily in games that implement the feature for photo mode and it was sorely missed in my Platinum Spider-Man 2 playthrough.
I'm saying by default there should be a natural cycle, with the manual option being something the player chooses to use similar to the first game (never actually checked if it was in Miles' game) but is not required to change it at all.
It’s something about the first one that can’t be replaced
i kinda like the autumn setting of the first game , the colorful trees looked nice
honestly, I really like the lighting in the first one compared to the second one. Especially with cutscenes.
dual sense features are also improved. breaking sandman crystals is very satisfying
19:05 ey, lining up narration with the background gameplay, nice job!
i do think people forget we are comparing spiderman 2018 on a ps5 engine fork to spiderman 2 on an improved fork. can you compare ps4 vs ps5??
Another detail that you didnt seem to mention, it appears there are also more new car models (only saw 3) and some new and overhauled boat and ship models in the waters surrounding the city.
The version showing on the screen is sometimes displayed incorrectly.
E.g. at 14:10 you are clearly showing Spiderman Remastered, and at 14:14 you switch to Spiderman 2, but the version in both does not change (it is Spiderman 2 through both scenes).
Whoops. Happens sometimes. Should be obvious to anyone still based on what im saying. I was coughing up a lung while editing so it was harder to focus than usual
@@Nick930 We forgive you... this time!
27:20 about the suits… in the previous game you can use any suit ability on any suit. So for example if I want the Iron Spider tendrils on the 2099 suit you can do that Spider-Man 2018 as well as Miles Morales.
They changed the anisotropy on the default suit to be more like the pre-release suit from the first game. The anisotropy made more sense on that pre-release suit because of the ridged texture pattern of the material. When they changed the pattern to hex shapes, the specular highlights bent in multiple directions, resulting in the more even lighting we saw in the release version of the default suit from the first game. I guess they just decided they preferred a silkier shine on top of the hex pattern this time around.
LOD distance really seems to be a bug. It looks a lot better when I'm playing. And my first impression starting the game was that when looking over the city or swinging/flying high, it looks much more detailed and varied in the distance than before.
Maybe. My first thought was that the downgrades allowed for faster loading. When you fast travel, switch Spider-Men, get thrown half-way across the map by the Sandman, etc, the game covers a huge distance with no loading screens or stutters.
Ah yes, Wilson Fink. My favourite supervillain lol
You may not have the deep technical know-how of Digital Foundry (which can always be learned). But your sharp eyes for details are often more impressive than DF.
This comparison series has become more and more refined and professional as a result of your efforts. Dare I say it's actually a must-watch for any graphics-conscious player.
Thanks for making these, great stuff.
This is why I watch both channels
Wtf MJ looks like a crowd NPC
they made her look like a man
thats not how you speak to your elders
This video is actually very in-depth compared to other videos just focusing on all the bugs and things that were removed.
I think the new crowd density is more realistic, strangers just don't stand that close together unless they're forced to.
better npc fs
Tbh it’s not uncommon to see people densely packed like they were in the first game in NYC. Kinda just depends where you are.
Yeah, let's make less crowds, less buildings, less cars, less everything. It definitely is more realistic )
Great video Nick, I was only kinda suprised that you forgot to mention the suit damage to each model... or did I just missed it ? Its possible. :DD
why do you have to say symbiote like "sim-bye-oat" instead of "sim-bee-oat"
Great work! I'm still hoping for Fallout 4 comparison to Starfield. I would really like to see your deep dive into those improvements if there are any.
Probably won’t be many 😂
It's not the same game
@@aepallenp oh it is 😂
@@aepallenp I'm aware of that. Nick has done comparisons like that in the past. Like Call of Duty comparison to Battlefield or Quantum break against Control, which is very much the same type of comparison, different game but same developer.
@@antony9384you can dislike the game but to say it doesn’t have any improvements is beyond crazy.
I think they both look amazing. But if I'm to be honest, I actually think the Remastered looks better. Maybe it's just because I'm on a phone, but the only real pro that sticks out with 2 is that it's lighting is far more natural.
that is certainly why....the 2nd game is far superior looking in many ways
The lighting in the remastered is superrrrr hit and miss. Looks great in interiors but if there’s sun anywhere, the whole game is darkened in a botched way
honestly same which sucks as they have downgraded buildings from far away which is what you'll mostly be seeing when traveling/swinging, like at 16:43 one of the best views in the last game looks empty and low quality now
@@TrKz_m It doesn't really look empty. THe guy even said it.
2 is much more graphically impressive game.
9:50 chinese sikh man ?
The parallax mapped rooms in the windows of the buildings have also been upgraded. They also have moving people in them! I'd love to know how they managed that.
df’s video gives a possible explanation
It is cool I guess, but it doesn't work realistically since it looks like there's apartments in every building, including police departments.
Insomniac Games uses a system of ray-tracing fake rooms that are buried underground in the city. This is to make sure they’re nearby to be called when needed. Each fake room has a basic layout and then different variations on furniture and characters.
When Spider-Man looks into a window, the game uses the ID of that window to randomly select one of the fake rooms to render. The game also casts rays back through the window to get a sense of the key light and shadows, which are then used to light the fake room. This system allows Insomniac to create realistic interior reflections, even for windows that are side-by-side. It also allows them to add details like animated ceiling fans and NPCs watching TV.
This is pretty cool and very smart because it helps the game load faster. The fake rooms are located underground in the city to save performance. The game only needs to render the fake rooms once, and then it can use them for all of the windows in the city. The rooms are not as detailed as the game world, but they are still good enough to create convincing reflections.
@@thejesse Game devs never cease to amaze me with their creativity.
Can’t believe a 35 year old MaryJane is dating a 16 year old Peter Parker😅
Perks of being Spider-Man get to date older women
@@GeoAlex1I know it’s a joke but not about to glorify pedophilia 😂
when I pre ordered the game I realized I was not gonna see the wonders of how the game would look at 4k so I actually bought a monitor to play the game at 4k with hdr just so I could actually everything in all its glory. This video (and the video about the remaster and the original spiderman) makes me appreciate getting the higher end monitor and not just settling for my regular 1080p monitor.
I have been waiting for this games release for 5-6 years now and will be able to get the game on the 3rd of November, the hardest part is going to be not looking at gameplay footage of the game to not have any major spoilers and I really do hope that Spider-Man 2 wins game of the year
why not?
Why does it matter if it wins game of the year? How will that affect your enjoyment?
You've been waiting 5 or 6 years for a sequel that didn't exist?
@@compostsmurf5519it was obvious that this game was happening
Realistically, it would probably be Baldur's Gate 3 but does it matter if it wins or not? I would be happy if it got nominated but it ain't gonna be GOTY I think.
I may be wrong but in Suit comparison I think its a minor detail, Spider man 1 original suit color is more vibrant than Spider man 2 meaning the color fades away over time, due to laundry and less texture due to lint damage fabric problems etc lol Peter needs a 2.0 suit also from a practical perspective just a theory
I can’t believe the Chrysler building isn’t in the game. That’s so silly. What idiot didn’t approve the license for such an iconic franchise?
Particularly when the building is in the first game but they already took it out in miles morales still a dumb decision whoever decided this is a money hungry greedy a hole and can Rott in hell
The owner of the building didn’t approve the license
The owner of the building didn’t approve the license
I actually never noticed that the Chrysler building was replaced in this game or Miles Morales until this video
I kind of find it interesting how some put so much importance to shadows, i rarely stop and contemplate my or others shadow when i am playing a video game. I guess for objects it matters more.
i would think that shadows are more in the subconscious, and just give a more lifelike feel to it
Fun fact: The water slides are straight from Sunset Overdrive (aka my favourite game of all time)
That construction site from the the first game that had the big set piece was built in Miles' game btw.
Oh and fyi you also could fast travel from the map to specific locations not just from the subways.
Lastly I really love the sound of the wind wooshing by whilst swinging in SM2!
3:53 "sim by oot". Nailes on a chalkboard bro lol
Don’t forget “Fink Tower” 😂
What a great job they did in these 5 years ! They added the whole new color grading, now this definitely looks next gen !!!! Blue tint =next gen, Yellow tint =last gen. Color tint is the biggest generational difference !
tint only possible if you have a fast enough SSD before PS5 this level of high level tinting wasnt possible on consoles just supercomputers in Nasa
Press x to doubt, in Marvel's Spider-man you could wear any suit you want because the ultimate ability you could change on the go
I wonder if the remaster or original games had updates to get the visuals to where it is today. Could just mean the launch version of Spider-man 2 might get some as well to get it patched too like the first game to continue improving.
I’m sure it will and probably even a remaster lol
@@lillowh6126 all these downgrades screaming to me "PS 5 Pro Update!"
Yah bro I play on a 4k tv and the gamw is fuzzy compared to the remastered the remastered Spider-Man one looked AMAZING
@@lillowh6126 I doubt it. It only got a remaster because it released on the ps4 and they wanna put it on the ps5. Maybe we'll get one with a ps6 lol
The remaster did get a few updates added in new suits and 60 fps fidelity mode
Not being able to change the time of day is a major bummer for me.
The suit exclusive moves were very cool in the first game.. It's a shame that they removed it
This is such a gorgeous game. I absolutely love it. My only complaint is that it feels shorter than the first. It might be because the challenges aren't all that challenging this time around, and less mandatory collectibles. Also the new traversal is much faster!
Game feels longer for me, side content wasn't all that great. At least, the endings weren't. Mysteriums left more to be desired, all those Spider-Bots just for a cameo most have to look up to know who she is, etc.
@@octolockg5059 Well you can blame the Spider-Verse folks for that. Apparently she was supposed to have a noticeable role in the movie and they cut it.
Amazing comparison, nice job Nick
considering there is not that much difference in visuals, but they didn't release for ps4 which might be able to run.
the difference is mainly in the lighting and rendering i think. the ps4 wouldnt be able to handle all this, especially with the load times
@@minkisbalinkis maybe the main reason is the loading time
Lightning and raytracing, draw distance, density of npc and loadings. Can't run on PS4.
This is comparing the remaster, which absolutely would not be able to run on ps4
@@kaushikkv8423 And the Sandman battle. THe Ps4 wouldn't be able to handle it. As well as the transition between characters. The harddrive of the Ps4 would explode.
Great side-by-side comparison, Nick, you covered almost everything.
Insomniac did a fantastic job with Spider-Man 2, not only improving the general visuals (Ray Tracing in all modes) but also keeping the revisit of New York interesting thanks to culling the more boring aspects (like car chases or obligatory random encounters) and adding new features, both in combat but even more so in traversal. When you experience the full powered web suit for the first time it's almost breathtaking at which speed you rush across New York while the engine keeps up those FPS. Sure it costs a bit of detail in far off LOD, but thanks to the more detailed surrounding area on the other side of the Hudson the overall impression is a better one. So far I'm enjoying every moment of it despite having played the previous games twice on PS5 and later on PC. Don't forget to just walk around on ground level, the new overall density feels much more like a vivid metropolis!
Thet just reskinned the old assets and added rt on top of that, what fantastic job ? They literally almost did no job at all. 90 percent of props and from previous games.
Imo and I think most of the people agree with me here...
My only Major complain with this game is MJ's Face Model, First game's face was perfect, She looks like MJ's Elder Sister or Aunt instead of MJ now Imo. I'm ok with here open hair, but Face is just unsettling to me.
Nick930: "MJ's older not by much"
Me looking at MJ in spider-man 2 thought its aunt May 💀💀💀
I'll never forgive them for changing Peter's face
He looks better tho?
I can‘t imagine the work you have to do for these videos. Godd Job!
Thank you for uploading this so quickly!
I was waiting for this exact comparison. Did not dissapoint!
To get the full PS5 experience I feel we shouldn’t have to “compromise” on so much. Why’d I buy a $900 console for such a slight upgrade and sometimes even downgrade? Faster loading times? That’s it?
Would be interesting to see the original Spider-man compared to spider-man 2 to see the changes.
What I love about the new Spider-Man 2 game is that they made Peter thicker
this means that a spiderman 2 remastered will release in a year or two
ouch , right in the eye
No you idiot
Is this a joke I’m missing?
Commenter misses the reason why SM1 received a remaster: It was released at the tail-end of the PS4's lifecycle and with the release of PS5 there was plenty of reason to revisit it for a dedicated PS5 version.
Why would it release a year or two down the line? The only reason why Spiderman 2018 was remastered was because a Ps5 came out. Maybe for the Pro they can do something? But I doubt it'll look that signficiantly better.
I don’t know if anyone else noticed this, but there is a dock in Miles Moralez that we visit during one of the side missions that is just gone in Spider-Man two. I don’t remember which dock exactly but it’s on the right side of the Manhattan map. The dock used during the mission where you help local business in Miles’s game.
They wrecked MJ on purpose. It's the same thing we've seen with most games now. Give the women broad shoulders, wider jawlines, no makeup, and clothes that are much less revealing. It fits with he current narrative of making women in entertainment look like men. We've all see the memes and side by sides, so there's no need for debate. In the case of MJ, it's so jarring, that there's no way to deny the changes. Nor excuse them. Regardless of the character's age up. Nonetheless, the game does look good, but as Nick points out, there are weird compromises for the larger map. I don't need a larger map or more checklists. I need a game that's tighter and has meaningful questing. I long for the days of Fallout New Vegas or more recently The Witcher 3. Most who have gotten their hands on this game have noted that the new areas to explore don't add anything to it. And judging by the trade offs, it would seem to be the case. I'll still play the game for the experience, but as with most AAA games nowadays, bigger doesn't always mean better.
Most Sony PS timed-exclusive games*
You compared Spider-Man, an open world action adventure game, to two RPGs. It’s like being annoyed that Assassin’s creed 3 doesn’t have as many quests as Skyrim.
Please make a video of the comparison between the original Spiderman PS4 2018 with Spiderman 2 exclude the remastered
We knew this was coming since the day spider man 2 was announced
I'm sure the day 1 patch will fix some of these inconsistencies. Might be worth it to compare the game again but with itself once it releases.
yeah i was wondering this too
Now I am dying to see History of Spiderman Games!
I’ll use the Wii remote and Nunchuck
Overall very good but i was quite disappointed by the lack of lip syncing, npc models and some of the janky animations (look at peters friend when he rides the bicycle. He looks like he is on a horse?)
I didn't really see much movement with the reflection comparison. are the moving objects in reflections still rendering at half or quarter rate?
You need glasses bud
@@jaylinthegoat145 ya, i just checked another video. spiderman 2 still has half and quarter rate animations in reflections. my bad
@@SwurvGG well ok let me back up a bit I’m sorry I said that honestly it was your opinion honestly and that was fucked Ik for me to say but yea the game is literally better NO not in every single way but in most ways it is
@@jaylinthegoat145 ? i'm just talking about the reflection animations. the first game had them at half and quarter rate. i was asking if the 2nd game still had it. this video didn't really touch on that subject. maybe you're confusing my post with someone else's?
@@SwurvGG oh yea probably I’m sorry
One thing I did find in Spider-Man 2 is that it can seem a lot harder to replenish your health mid fight to the point of being a grind but mastering the parry system is an excellent trade off.
Solid game, just disappointed it didn't really evolve much, like Arkham Asylum to City; or City to Knight. Still well worth it though
Not much to evolve unless they went open world
You didn't even played it Lmao kid this game>>>>>>>Overrated trash Arkham games with worst boss battles🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yashsoni7614please grow up
@@yashsoni7614 he didnt said the game is bad tho, just said it did not have that many improvements
@@Birort It literally has so many major improvements in every aspect lmao don't know what these clown kids are smoking🤡 The Story, narration, mechanics, web swinging, traversal, combat, side quests it literally improved upon every single thing
Fun fact: The in-universe justification for the Chrysler Building being gone in the sequel is that it is "on vacation." This is referencing a time in the comics where the building literally came to life and started making trouble. The solution for the problem was sending the building on vacation.
I can't imagine the amount of work you've put into this. Great video as always!
I really hope they add in the option to change time of day
Morning, midday, evening and nighttime. Also maybe a continuous cycle of time of day with a dynamic weather option
Wow, they *really* need to patch in the ability to change time of day
Hi Nick, you should also make a video comparing the original PS4 version compared to SM2 on PS5 just to see how much of a difference is between generations
I personally think the old Advanced Suit looks better in terms of design than the new main suit for Spider-Man 2, even if the detail is lower. Both in terms of design but also in terms of the appearance of the surface texture. For example, I think the checkerboard pattern on the spider logo looks too obvious now.
However, I feel the exact opposite in regards to Miles's suits.
I'm pretty sure the Advanced Suit V1 they've put in Spidey 2 is using the PS4 model, not the remastered, hence the interior texture work.
27:47 Im confused by the wording but are you saying that you HAD to wear a suit to have its special ability? Because if so, you'd be incorrect....
3:03 i noticed in spiderman 2 the lenses seem more "aggrressive" compared to the original design
They look better imo. The old ones never sat right with me. It's like he's glazed over or something
@@BlueisNotaWarmColourmeh, I dont like the plastic look the new one gives off
@@Cosmicmorales but they are plastic
Regular PS4 version vs PS5 sequel would’ve been so much more interesting
35:13 Wow Spider-Man handles those car encounters a lot smarter now lol
Rest in Peace Chrysler Building in spoderman games
Just sold my PS4 recently, can’t wait to play this game once I get the slim PS5 😁
Good call since this game isnt on ps4 anyways?😂
All i feel is , they put a lot of love and effort to make this game 100% , appreciate it!!!
I see no reason to get the new 'Spider-Man 2' game. All the changes and strange 'features', like the spider legs coming out of the back and such innovations introduced by the movie, just don't make it the same for me anymore. Additionally, the gameplay is absolutely identical - it's like buying the same game every year, just like with 'FIFA', or now the new 'FC24'. I find it ridiculous.
It's alot different and the arms don't originate from the movies 😂 also combat is alot better as well as swinging around but whatever makes you feel better
nice vid as always, sure to get over a million views considering the anticipation and interest on this one.
I can’t help but notice that the first game looked much better…
I guess now they have nothing more to prove as people will buy the game anyway.
I wouldn't expect you to know this but, there was a short dialogue scene in the game where Miles talks to his barber and his new hair is not dreadlocks. They are twists, which are visually similar to dreadlocks when starting to grow them. Twists are cleaner looking and more uniform than dreadlocks.
hopefully they add an update and include the day/night switch feature like the last game 🙏🏽
same but im sure they will because it was in the past two games
Did you check the pause menu? In Miles Morales, the time of day setting was moved to the Settings menu
I'm getting it day 1 for PS5 but I'm really looking forward to it being released on PC. Hopefully it's not a long wait. Mods for Spiderman are really cool, it's not just costumes. There are environmental changes, animations specific to a movie or other Spidey game, even the music while swinging.