Peer doesn't retire at the end. He just takes a small break which with Miles taking over the day-to-day spider-maning. He is back in the suit by the post game.
I don’t think the post game is canon. All side missions and other content is canon before endgame Maybe we’ll have miles exclusive dlc and get peter later
exactly. Like the first game, yuri says that 'there are still prison convicteds and sable out there' but they all feel out of place.. to have sable outposts in town post doc ock battle because weeks had passed@@ceeb420
Post-game is just a sandbox. Peter is defacto retired and Spider-Man may well involve Miles teaching his step-sister Cindy Moon (Silk) to use her powers. Edit: this game cucked him to fuck. Insomniac will definitely aim to sideline him again. Even if he does appear, he'll play second fiddle to both Miles and Cindy. Marvel has basically hated Peter for years at this point. Edit 2: the writers have confirmed in an article with Gizmodo that Miles is the main Spider-Man moving forward for the sequel
For me it's tough to say. The first one has a much better story in my opinion, but the second one I'd say has better gameplay and bossfights. The surprise factor of course also isn't really there, because it's a sequel.
I agree. The first game's story was a pretty cool and original take. Spider-Man 2 feels full of fan service by using Sandman, Venom, and Harry, but also suffers from Spider-Man 3 Syndrome by rushing the whole thing and not giving proper justice to any aspect of those story beats.
I don't remember much of the boss fights from and perhaps that can be seen as a detriment, but I hate that all the bosses in 2 pretty much play the exact same. Of the two bosses I remember from the first, Shocker and Doc Oc, they were both unique and asked a bit out of the player. All the bosses in 2 are essentially a game of patty cake where you parry all their attacks except when you can't. That itself wouldn't be so bad but bosses only have 1 or 2 strings which lead the battle to get repetitive before you even finish their first health bar.
@@MegaOverclockedthe boss fights in the first game are easy af you just swing around wait for opening attack they were a joke what are you even talking about
I also felt like when compared the original Spider-Man 1 had a story that immersed you deeply into the characters involved. I feel like things move so fast in spiderman 2 that the payoff don't hit nearly as hard. I hate to say this left me dissatisfied especially since so much work went into improving aspects of the game. But I think you hit the nail on the head.
I think everyone played the game a little to fast. Not a big issue, but also pacing is an issue. Since everything moves SOO fast in this game, and since everyone played the game really quickly, it just moves even faster than maybe intended. I do believe there should be more side missions and more story missions not involved w/ the main story. Like random villains or stuff like that. And since there isn’t, everything just moves from plot point to plot point quick af
@@Memerryy the symbiote was good for Peter but was only on him for a day??? It was also a weird jump to edgy Peter to quickly from his usual stupidly hopeful personality. I wish Harry was Harry for longer besides doing nothing in act 2 and then just becoming venom once Peter took the symbiote off. It was only a few missions and venom didn’t feel like 1 character and motivations were odd. Maybe it was fast cause it was only venom and not any of the sinister 6 like last game? Idk and venom was only a few missions too
@@Memerryy more of Harry meaning like more time to show Harry with miles more than that one cutscene and just more time with Harry and Peter after symbiote Peter BUT before venom. Like have Peter try and fix the relationship but Harry wants none of it or something and then teams up with kraven to get the symbiote from Peter? Just spitballing lmao but like more time for Harry to be harry, him being mad is understandable. But it’s weird how fast Harry just became venom
The biggest thing with Spider-Man 2 right now is that it doesn't have a good post game in comparison to Spider-Man Ps4 (which had all the enemy bases) and Spider-Man Miles Morales (which had total control over the crime activity). I'm expecting future updates may reintegrate these features down the line, a New game plus (which was something added later in the previous games after their releases), and DLC that can cover maybe both the Chameleon and Carnage subplots.
This is my main complaint. They’re adding new game plus which fixes this a bit but I’ve done everything except for a few Emily may missions and I’m just swinging around and stopping random crimes. Great side content but not a lot. So it’s in desperate need of DLC to really push that post game.
Yeah, the game lacks content thats for sure. I think they were with miles morales in mind and not spider man 1 when doing the content for that game lol Just one set of goons and bases is really a shame. You have all those new cool symbiote skills just to punch hunters? They had to keep the simbiots alive, which is very off the canon because they should all die (including the nests) to give us another enemies to fight post game But then even after killing all nests they still remain on game But for me the biggest problem is that the story is too short The first act is too long (in a first moment i DON’T THINK it is long, it is perfectly paced introducing harry agent venom and the hunters) but if you are giving us 15 missions of first act then give us at least more 30 missions in the game! We barely had the symbiote for 9 missions then lose it.. ok agent venom gives us the skills back but not bully lowenthal
I feel like kraven was pretty fleshed out, the talon missions and hunter bases give you insight about all of kravens family hunting him because they want his position, come to find out they all died trying to kill him or killed each other, he was a man who was tired and sick, and wanted a quick death to a worthy opponent, I kinda felt sorry for him because it highlights the realism of death and the things it can do to a person.
I’d say the gameplay is definitely better, but the story didn’t hit as hard as the first game. Except for the Black Suit/Symbiote suit parts, that was freakin awesome! I also did like the wholesome moments like Spiderman sitting on the bench with the old man, or his pigeon buddy from the first game. Also the Harlem museum and the carnival were cool (sure i wouldn’t want the whole game to be like that, but i did like it a little.)
I felt that Spider-Man 2 had the best side missions in any video game, especially a super-hero game. Every one felt like care was put into it, and had a great payoff.
@@carlpacquing2575 agreed! The Side stuff was fun, especially the Hunter bases; i hope we get more like them in DLC, plus the ability to replay main/side missions. It’s a shame there was so much politics in this game, could have very well earned Game of the Year otherwise.
@@carlpacquing2575Strongly agree. Hunter bases, Sandman crystals, and so many other side missions were so engaging and intriguing. And of course, very emotional. Howard’s death really got me.
I can only dream of how exciting and scarier it would be if the old peter model got the symbiote. The new one was menacing but the old face model would've been something else. He seems more serious. I think pc modders will do this in the future
The new model has more of 'bad boy' vibe which kind of fits him, although doesn't fit Peter overall. It definitely would have been a lot better since it was also more expressive. His eyes were so realistic, this one's eyes don't express anything at all which is why he looks so unnatural.
In my opinion gameplay wise its way better but storywise I much prefer the first game. The second game's story never hit as hard as the first game did with Otto's downfall and May's death. Harry's (almost) death didn't have anywhere near as much as an impact for me and I think that might be because of the amount of things this game has going on. Because the first game had less going on, it had more time to flesh out the characters and really made me feel for them more. The villains in Spider-man 2 were just weaker in my opinion. Kraven was boring unlike Mr Negative who was a fresh villain most spider-man fans were unaware of. Kraven doesn't have any personal connection to Spider-man which in my opinion makes the conflict less interesting while Mr Negative works with Aunt May which makes that story way more personal and therefore way more interesting for me. Even thoughTony Todd's performance as venom was so fucking good, I wasn't anywhere near as invested in where the story was going with him as I was with Doctor Octopus as I think there was more time spent on developing Peter's relationship with Otto as there was with Peter's relationship with Harry. Despite this there is still plenty of stuff with the second game I prefer to the first game. Like I loved how the second game explored Miles' anger at Li for taking his dad from him and actually explored this in a good amount of depth. They then let Miles come to know Li and start to understand his pain and even though Miles never forgives Li he lets go of his hatred and this whole arc is just done incredibly well. Not only does Miles let go of his hatred but he makes Li a better person. This is exactly the type of thing spider-man would do and it just shows how well the writers actually understand the character of spider-man. Both games highlight the sacrifices that come with being spider-man and although I think the first game does this better, I still think both of them definitely have their merits
Kraven’s depth comes from the fact that he wants to die on his feet to a true challenger, very Spartan like. Is it as impactful as him having a personal tie with Peter? No of course not, but not ever villain needs to. I like that all of Kraven’s motivations are all personal to himself and really tragic in a way. While I didn’t agree with his villainy I think it’s understandable as human beings to want to go out on our own terms. Plus I like how each villain had different motivations. Li and Doc Oc both just wanted Norman to pay, for different reasons sure, but same motivation none the less.
I agree with everything but Kraven I think Kraven was awesome BECAUSE he had no ties to Peter. You had to work to understand his motivations, just to find out he's a fucking psycho. He is actually purely bad. No sympathy at all. We need villains who are just bad. And he actually got what he wanted: A glorious death I definitely agree with Venom as Harry. I like Harry, but his fall was knowhere as impactful as Otto. Also, Harry as Venom is a huge mistake to me. Apart of Venom's character is that they both hate Peter. Eddie for having his career ruined by Peter, and Venom being like an angry EX who wants to get revenge for being dumped. They have a reason to team up Also the Symbiote Invasion was stupid, something like that should NOT be crammed into a third act. It needs whole game focus. Miles' arc with Lee was good, but that's it. The rest of his story sucks. And just takes away the time we could be adding more into Peter's Symbiote Arc. And I think the biggest waste is Peter's Symbiote Arc. It was nor onlt rushed, but according to the game only lasted for a few days? REALLY?! He should of had the Symbiote for 70-80% of the story. A longer story as well(Story was too short in my opinion) I'm just gonna say it, if they wanted to "Reinvent" Venom as they said, then they should of made Peter Venom Like you said about Otto being the main person to "Fall" in the first game, I think despite Harry being painted as the main one, Peter's Fall was the better of the 2. What if they made the entire story focus on Peter's Fall, and he does fall so hard he becomes Venom, turning from the lead protagonist into the lead antagonist of the game. They can aline that with Miles, but with Miles put all the focus on his revenge Arc instead of the boring filler that came with it. And instead of making Harry the villain, make him the moral compass like May was. Where despite his sickness, he would rather die saying goodbye and being the one to "save" Peter, than be a Symbiote monster
@@spider-man500 idk man I thought it was good. I disagree about Peter having the symbiote for 70-80% of the game, that would be way too much. Just my opinion. I’m sorry I’ve let ya down there bud.
@@spider-man500nah idk about peter being venom but i agree on everything else and the story could of done things like the symbiote invasion better if the game was just longer.
Story wise first game I feel was better. Kraven was done extremely well in 2 but black suit Peter and Venom both felt rushed. The first game had a lot more emotion as well. However, the gameplay was much better in SM 2.
I know Peter didn’t retire but I’m a bit worried he won’t be playable for a while after this as the Avengers are canon to the insomniac universe but they haven’t helped at all and while it’s explained in the first game I don’t think they’d be gone for almost 2 years so they might give him the same treatment.
One thing I love about this game, the Symbiote didn’t seem to have any negative effects before bonding with Peter. I don’t know if there’s much actual evidence for this, but it’s my headcannon that Venom wouldn’t of happened without Peter taking the Symbiote and bonding so much with it.
I've enjoyed both spiderman games and I'm looking forward to seeing where the next one takes us. One thing I liked about the second one was the chase section with black cat. And that portal jumping would be a great mechanic for some sort of spiderverse game, jumping between different new yorks would definitely make the game feel fresh and not another copy and paste with a fresh bit of paint.
I think it is better. It’s the perfect example of innovating where it counts and building from what you have already had in the first game. Just like with the Arkham games, they built on what was already there. New combat moves, the prototype weapons and new swinging shit plus obviously better graphics and more boss fights and a more complex story. Not to mention the character swapping mechanics and the new fast travel system. Upgrades where it counts
The gameplay, fluidity, being able to be both Peter and Miles, and the fact that the game focuses on the Symbiotes (my favorite comic book concept) all are things I think this game does better than the others. I do think the first game had an overall better story that hit me more emotionally than 2 did. 2 was close but the story for 1 is still my favorite.
Tbh the 2018 story is just better, more personal and executes it’s plot twists better. Not saying SM 2 is bad, it’s a better game overall, just the story missed the mark, specifically in act 3 but other then that it’s my favourite game of all time. Gameplay, graphics and map are all very good and it deserves GoTY and I’m excited for Carnage(?) DLC.
My biggest issue with the story is that the first act is a little too long and drawn out compared to the second and third. It feels like we didn't get nearly enough Bully Lowenthal and maybe one more mission playing as Venom and a few more missions of screentime with him would've been nice. It all came and went pretty quickly IMO.
@@sketchyecchiakechiu are the kind of people to complain about a game being stretched out but when a game doesn't do that you start complaining about it being too short. Wtf
@@sketchyecchiakechithe second act shoulda been a little longer. Have lizard be a bigger threat for a while and have that be a hunt for lizard. Not really an instant find. And I think everyone played the game to fast. Yeah pacing is an issue, but when everyone beats a game in a a few days, or a week or two, then pacing will be a lot faster cause the person beat the game pretty fast
The more I think about it Spider Man's 1 story is better overall because the characters were more developed. Of course we know who Harry is, but we don't know Insomniac Harry that well. There wasn't enough development with him to make me care. Tbh it developed MJ more than it did Harry when MJ is pretty developed already. But they did well considering they had to balance out two stories in the same game. The symbiote arc was my favorite but it felt just a bit too short.
There a complete dissonance. I'm not a big Spidey fan so I don't really know who Harry was. He's just Peter's and MJ's friend from way back. I don't really know what the three of them have been through together. And the game doesn't do a good job at establishing their bond. So when the cast gets sad about Harry's health... I found myself not caring because I personally don't care about him or have any emotional connection to him. I think the game just expects me to fill in the blanks and care. But I did not have the emotional investment in the slightest to care.
There's some weird problems that weren't an issue in the other 2 games, such as not being able to listen to previous JJ and Danika podcasts? Just some quirks all around and the combat can get overwhelming, I don't think the parry feels right and most often than not I dodge an enemy only to get hit by an attack from offscreen.
I dislike how they made Peter almost die like 5 times only to be saved by Miles... then have him saying Miles is better than him repeatedly. Nothing against Miles but they don't have to put Peter down like this...
True, but that is important to Peters story. Then when he gets the symbiote he feels good like he's not lacking anymore. So yes them putting Peter down is sad but it makes for a great symbiote Peter :)
Already got all the ps5 trophies, 100% the story once and doing my second play-through now, i loved it! I wish we had new game + and more suits, some of the suits for peter were shite
Generall, yeah. But the thing is lacks is that wow factor that the first game had. It's not really its fault as Insomniac just 100% nailed absolutely everything in the first game. So now the sequel is largely just a iterative update.
I actually liked that the big bosses had several health bars. It made them feel more epic than the last games, but it saves after each one so it wasn't too frustrating to die.
I really thought the fight with symbiote MJ was amazing. Having all of the deep-down personal feelings out during the fight really showed the realness behind maintaining a relationship with a superhero such as Peter who is constantly busy and can't maintain anything outside of the hero's occupation. MJ's words (albeit influenced by the symbiote) felt so real and were necessary for Peter to hear so that he can truly realize what impact this life has on the people around him.
Its so cool while peter has the black suit when in the rage mode the controller like grows but as soon as you get the white suit it disappears, I haven't seen anyone talk about this either and I thought it was a cool detail.
Spiderman 2018 is a masterpiece superhero game, so is miles morales, and so is spiderman 2. I don’t think it’s a situation where 1 is better than the other. Insomniac has genuinely created all time level video games here
I love focused tighter stories. Which is why the first game and Miles Morales were better. While gameplay and set pieces have improved it's the story that makes it what it is. I was more emotionally invested with those games.
@spider-man500 i disagree. miles' story felt tighter and less bloated than this one. Still enjoyed SM2 though. Just had a stronger emotional connection to the characters in Miles' and Peter's standalone entries.
@@spider-man500story is to short cause it isn’t a main game lmao. For what we got, stakes were high, good enough characters, good motivation, just not done enough with phin. Story was still good tho and was impactful. If you didn’t like it then that’s fine. Your opinion isn’t the same as others
I think Spider-Man 2 is better than the first game in terms of gameplay, boss fights, cutscenes, and Yuri Lowenthal’s performance. As far as story? The first game was better in that regard.
Spiderman 2 was my first next gen experience and the first playstation game i've played since the ps2. I gotta say the load times and the fast travel shocked me, I didn't even realize that was possible yet.
lived up to my expectations story wise. BUT it feels like insomniac took a cod approach to it. We for some reason didnt have mission select like in miles morales. No ng+ and so on. Like i feel that those should be there when i get the game rather than having to wait to have them updated into the game.
Far From Home didn't really work, but not because of the Europe setting. First game: The perfect Peter Parker story. Second game: Overall better experience, it has you very much engaged and builds up so well but doesn't land quite right. After Venom is introduced it kind of goes downhill with the exception of the Scream fight and Anti-Venom reveal. Logically it is very consistent, emotionally: it grabbed me from the beginning but it lost me a bit at the end.
Spiderman 1 Peter have alot of cool suit mods and abilities which in 2 have not I hope I can see in the Future that he retain some of the Gadget Techs and use in Future battle such as the Spider Drones Spider Arms and if possible he had Web Blossom which personally I considered as one of his strongest mods in terms of utility and crowd battle taking down multiple opponents at once
I know this would probably be a short video but I think would be awesome if you could compare every version of the canceled video game movie tie in of the cancelled Spider-Man 4 movie I completely understand both versions were never finished due to the cancellation of Spider-Man 4
Does peter Parkey actually save anybody in this game? I’m pretty close to the end and as far as I can tell, he’s been nothing but a pain in everyone’s ass while Miles Sue is the definition of perfection 🤦♂️
Personally I loved the two games, they complement each other very well, everything that needed to be improved in the first one they did and the new additions, it's a treat without the work, too bad certain bugs and wokist propaganda but apart from that the game is excellent and one of the best of 2023. Ps: You should know it Peter never really stops he always comes back and anyway he doesn't really say it that he stops it definitively, he just takes a break. in the DLC we will undoubtedly incarnate Miles, we will have a Spider-Man Miles Morales 2 to develop Cindy Moon and a game dedicated to the latter and in the third Peter will return it is logical for me, we cannot do the Green Goblin without Peter is like making Robin and Joker fight.
the first one is so much better than the second there's just something better about swinging around in the first game and its not there in the second and not to mention the face models
How about which one is has more political messaging? SM1 has pride flags, but SM2 has way more LGBT elements, but also a gun control narrative, the climate change conspiracy (it's not real lol), black worship, and more.
I feel like the Venom story was a little disappointing, what happened to Venom being an evil monster who wants to torment Peter and make his life hell and kill him? when did it become venom wanting to take over the world web of shadows style. I feel like due to venoms popularity people tend to forget he's main focus is Destroying Spiderman, i get with the story its about healing the world and what not but he didn't even want to kill peter he wanted him to Join him like huh? They could've made Venoms plot a lot more personal and go into more of harry being jealous of how norman treats peter better then he treats harry and feed into that and the symbiote hating him for getting the symbiote off him. Also Venom was not in the game no where long enough, Such an iconic character such a great Villain to only have him for 5 missions bit disappointing. Gameplay wise this game is much better then the original but the original story is a lot better and a lot more personal.
Tbh as good as the games are, Insomniac hasn’t followed the canon at all. I know some will argue it would be too hard that way, but your spider sense honestly shouldn’t be active during the fight with Venom. The symbiote should be weak to fire, but it isn’t. Most importantly, Venom should’ve been Eddie Brock. Why are we always having Harry forced on us as of late? He’s either the Goblin over Norman, or apparently now he’s Venom over Brock. I don’t get it, does anyone really like Harry? For me, in any universe, he’s almost always the most boring character in Spider-Man. Peter would never simply “walk away” from being Spider-Man. It’s not in his nature. “With great power” you know the rest. MJ from the comics was much more understanding of this. They still found the time to live their lives. In this series, she’s lowkey kind of unlikeable. Selfish, like she expects him to give everything up and forget other people’s safety just for her. I’ve seen numerous interpretations of the sinister 6, never saw Mister Negative in any of them until the Insomniac series. Now, if you’ve beaten this game, you’ll know they are introducing Silk (Cindy Moon). In the comics, she was bitten by the same spider as Peter, and is 3 years older than him. In this series, it looks like she will instead by part of Miles’s story arc, meaning she’s probably also a teenager, and probably not bitten by the same Spider as him. It’s working for them so far, the games are great. But they need to tread carefully. Their recent announcement that Miles is now the main guy has been met with a polarizing at best response. And sales numbers indicate what they’re doing isn’t smart at all. The 2018 game is the highest selling super hero game ever at 33 million. Miles Morales in 2020 only sold 6 million. A lot of people only view him as a cheap knock off of Peter, same age he was when he started, same origin story, same personality. Same powers, with the addition of some op electricity based powers that I personally think make his sections too easy. I get that they want diversity, but why not create an original and badass black character in that case? Or do a Black Panther game? Leave the already established and beloved Peter Parker Spider-Man character alone. Just my 2 cents. I’ve dragged this on long enough.
Spiderman 2 is a better game from a gameplay standpoint because of better traversal and comabt. but the story well its good both ways but the 2nd game shits soo much on peter that its funny xD
gameplay, story, and mechanics wise yes, current post game not so much, but just remember everyone: THe reason it seems like its bad is because 2020 was the beginning of the age where everyone started complaining about every single little detail about everything. Yes it started even before 2020, but back then the only thing complained about was actual stuff to complain about.
Rn people have very small nitpicky complaints and act like that the biggest issue. When in reality, it’s only a big issue cause they have nothing else to complain about. No one has any major complaints. Just small stuff
@@Flandrew Thank you very much. I'm sure Ultimate Spider-Man in particular is alot of work to go through since there are so many different versions, I'll be patiently looking forward to it along with all the other web-heads around!
@@Flandrew You didn't touch on the game being super woke, even if it doesn't bother you I think it should've warranted a mention in the section where you acknowledge the uglification of MJ.
I love both games but Spider-Man 2 is a natural improvement for me, much like going from the first Sam Raimi spider man film to the second Sam Raimi film
i feel like the original spiderman had a better scripted and executed story on average (i mean the mj missions were such a chore) but the all the broadening and improvement in the second game make it more fun to play
Yeah the remaster and miles Peter face looked off, the first was amazing the new sm2 one is fine but it just looks like Tom and Toby but the first look like a mix between all 3
Venom was badass in the game and Tony Todd’s voice really kills it. Even though his voice is much fitting for Eddie Brock Venom rather than Harry. But I wish Carnage was the main villain instead.
I absolutely love this game, but it's lacking basic features both previous games had. There is no New Game +, no way to repeat missions, and less interesting enemy bases than before. Some fan-favorite suits are also not present in the game, and the game is VEEEEERY woke. They had "Arab" characters speak with Indian accents, which is kinda offensive, and some gay characters for absolutely no reason. Had they invested their time into fixing the glitches and adding all the missing features instead of the woke garbage, this game would have been a 10 for me. Too bad.
@MvsticDreamz the first game felt more like spiderman. Instead. Spiderman 2 story felt rushed and it put more of a focus on miles which is annoying since spiderman put the focus on Pete
@@MRSYMBlOTE All that is opinions. I loved the story, I didn't think it was rushed at all. It definitely wasnt a focus on miles because I remember being forced to play as Pete way more than miles. And besides, the whole point is that there are 2 spidermen now..
For me, Spider Man 2 Exceeded my expectations. the graphics were so realistic, the new suits and gadgets were really slick and clean, the story was a little zig-zagged but I was still in awe every time something happened. My only bad comment about it was the boss fights. they were awesome to go up against but the lizard and venom boss fight were just to hard on ultimate difficulty. I had to tone down the difficulty just to beat the lizard because he did so much damage to me in 1 second or before I even realized I was back in the fight/new phase. But other than that, this game was amazing to play and platinum and i cannot wait for SM3 to come out and see if it can do better than a game I already have as "the best spiderman game known to man" (my opinion)
The game play was definitely better, but I felt like the second half of the story was rushed. Plus with the over usage of fake outs was just getting a bit too much.
I’m confused why everyone is saying the first game had a better or more emotional story. Both games straight wrenched my heart out of my chest and stomped on it.
Personally no. The story is worse, the graphics kinda look odd in some places so it's hard to say it was truly better, the gameplay is imo less fun. Honestly, it's at best about the same.
There's not a ton of side missions in this as in the first game which I actually liked most of the side missions in 1, so I can't tell if the main story in the 2nd game is also shorter or if it's about as long as the first games main story and just doesn't have the side content to pad it. Which is still strange because there's a long period where the game doesn't let you do any side missions and you can only go from one main story location to the next
I think there’s less side missions in this game. Main missions are said to be the same length, but lack of side content make the game feel small and boring tbh. Like in MM there were the FNSM app stuff, and while those are still there, there isn’t nearly as many app stuff or side quests like the first two games had
I like the scale and size of the first game. Somehow the city seems bigger, even though the buildings compared to Miles and sequel look bigger. Maybe I’m losing it but that’s pretty much the only thing I can say lol. Overall the 3 games we have gotten, have been great in my humble opinion.
people are wondering if its better than the first one but they also thhink it can beat totk. botw was so much better than the first spider man but totk is like botw 3.0
If you think about the story insomniac copy pasted the whole spiderman 1 story and turned it into spiderman 2..just think and let me know if you get it
I think much like Tears of the Kingdom, I'd love for a 3rd game in these series, but not with the same map. I'd love a Spider-Man game set anywhere besides New York, it would be cool
@@spider-man500 But because of this setting it limits the potential of the games. Ithink everyone would be bored of New York 3.0. I know it's part of him but it's limiting for the player rather than having an original setting that can be expanded.
@@arthurdurham But because of this setting it limits the potential of the games. Ithink everyone would be bored of New York 3.0. I know it's part of him but it's limiting for the player rather than having an original setting that can be expanded.
To be quite honest this game is excelent. It is unfortunate that it couldnt really make the same jump in scope that Arkham Asylum made to Arkham City (I mean that would meen Spider Man could go all the way to Philadelphia and that would A be silly, B the game would be 500gb). The Ultimate difficulty is awesome I feel this one was much tougher than both 1 and MM. The only grype I have with this game are the boss battles. To get back to the Arkham games the boss batles in Asylum were objectively garbage and then we proceeded to get some of the best boss battles ever in the following 3 games with Freeze, Deathstroke (in orgins obv) and Manbat being some of the biggest standouts. And in now 3 Spider man games the boss battles just feel very same-ish (apart from Sandman, but come on its an intro level), you jump around using your mobility and make an opening using the environment/web/gadgets/or parry in this last game. They especially dropped the ball on the Miles - Symbiot Peter fight. I mean even on Ultimate he gets webbed up so easily and the entire fight felt very formulaic you jump around using your mobility and webs/the bell to create openings. Bruh you have the same mobility, you should not be able to do that. I think they should have made Symbiot peter be able to A predict some of your moves B track you down while swinging. Same goes for Venom, he canonicaly does not trigger your Spider sense, there were so many cool gameplay elements they could have made out of that. I just hope that by introducing a mobile flying character like Green Goblin in 3 they can make at least one creative one.
Peer doesn't retire at the end. He just takes a small break which with Miles taking over the day-to-day spider-maning. He is back in the suit by the post game.
I don’t think the post game is canon. All side missions and other content is canon before endgame
Maybe we’ll have miles exclusive dlc and get peter later
@@MegasXRLThe only mission that's really post-game is that one last Emily-May Foundation quest in Peter's garage lol
exactly. Like the first game, yuri says that 'there are still prison convicteds and sable out there' but they all feel out of place.. to have sable outposts in town post doc ock battle because weeks had passed@@ceeb420
also with spiderman 2, why hunters would still be in the city after kraven dies?@@ceeb420
Post-game is just a sandbox. Peter is defacto retired and Spider-Man may well involve Miles teaching his step-sister Cindy Moon (Silk) to use her powers.
Edit: this game cucked him to fuck. Insomniac will definitely aim to sideline him again. Even if he does appear, he'll play second fiddle to both Miles and Cindy. Marvel has basically hated Peter for years at this point.
Edit 2: the writers have confirmed in an article with Gizmodo that Miles is the main Spider-Man moving forward for the sequel
For me it's tough to say. The first one has a much better story in my opinion, but the second one I'd say has better gameplay and bossfights. The surprise factor of course also isn't really there, because it's a sequel.
I agree. The first game's story was a pretty cool and original take.
Spider-Man 2 feels full of fan service by using Sandman, Venom, and Harry, but also suffers from Spider-Man 3 Syndrome by rushing the whole thing and not giving proper justice to any aspect of those story beats.
I don't remember much of the boss fights from and perhaps that can be seen as a detriment, but I hate that all the bosses in 2 pretty much play the exact same. Of the two bosses I remember from the first, Shocker and Doc Oc, they were both unique and asked a bit out of the player. All the bosses in 2 are essentially a game of patty cake where you parry all their attacks except when you can't. That itself wouldn't be so bad but bosses only have 1 or 2 strings which lead the battle to get repetitive before you even finish their first health bar.
It’s like RGG Studio with Judgment and Lost Judgment, where the first game had a story that ties it all up while the second game had better gameplay.
@@MegaOverclockedthe boss fights in the first game are easy af you just swing around wait for opening attack they were a joke what are you even talking about
I disagree I don’t like spiderman1 story
I also felt like when compared the original Spider-Man 1 had a story that immersed you deeply into the characters involved. I feel like things move so fast in spiderman 2 that the payoff don't hit nearly as hard. I hate to say this left me dissatisfied especially since so much work went into improving aspects of the game. But I think you hit the nail on the head.
I think everyone played the game a little to fast. Not a big issue, but also pacing is an issue. Since everything moves SOO fast in this game, and since everyone played the game really quickly, it just moves even faster than maybe intended. I do believe there should be more side missions and more story missions not involved w/ the main story. Like random villains or stuff like that. And since there isn’t, everything just moves from plot point to plot point quick af
it didnt move so fast for me, they took their sweet time with the symbiote, and this has a better story
@@Memerryy the symbiote was good for Peter but was only on him for a day??? It was also a weird jump to edgy Peter to quickly from his usual stupidly hopeful personality. I wish Harry was Harry for longer besides doing nothing in act 2 and then just becoming venom once Peter took the symbiote off. It was only a few missions and venom didn’t feel like 1 character and motivations were odd. Maybe it was fast cause it was only venom and not any of the sinister 6 like last game? Idk and venom was only a few missions too
@@The-Legend-of-P it wasnt on him for a day..and we got to play as venom! Why would you want more of Harry..?? How tf they gonna start act 3 then!
@@Memerryy more of Harry meaning like more time to show Harry with miles more than that one cutscene and just more time with Harry and Peter after symbiote Peter BUT before venom. Like have Peter try and fix the relationship but Harry wants none of it or something and then teams up with kraven to get the symbiote from Peter? Just spitballing lmao but like more time for Harry to be harry, him being mad is understandable. But it’s weird how fast Harry just became venom
The biggest thing with Spider-Man 2 right now is that it doesn't have a good post game in comparison to Spider-Man Ps4 (which had all the enemy bases) and Spider-Man Miles Morales (which had total control over the crime activity). I'm expecting future updates may reintegrate these features down the line, a New game plus (which was something added later in the previous games after their releases), and DLC that can cover maybe both the Chameleon and Carnage subplots.
This is my main complaint. They’re adding new game plus which fixes this a bit but I’ve done everything except for a few Emily may missions and I’m just swinging around and stopping random crimes. Great side content but not a lot. So it’s in desperate need of DLC to really push that post game.
Yeah, the game lacks content thats for sure. I think they were with miles morales in mind and not spider man 1 when doing the content for that game lol
Just one set of goons and bases is really a shame. You have all those new cool symbiote skills just to punch hunters?
They had to keep the simbiots alive, which is very off the canon because they should all die (including the nests) to give us another enemies to fight post game
But then even after killing all nests they still remain on game
But for me the biggest problem is that the story is too short
The first act is too long (in a first moment i DON’T THINK it is long, it is perfectly paced introducing harry agent venom and the hunters) but if you are giving us 15 missions of first act then give us at least more 30 missions in the game! We barely had the symbiote for 9 missions then lose it.. ok agent venom gives us the skills back but not bully lowenthal
I just hope that the DLCs now take place in the same map as the main game.
I just hope that the DLCs now take place in the same map as the main game.
Didn’t the batman games come with new game plus because Spider man 2 was so short to me but it was fun
I feel like kraven was pretty fleshed out, the talon missions and hunter bases give you insight about all of kravens family hunting him because they want his position, come to find out they all died trying to kill him or killed each other, he was a man who was tired and sick, and wanted a quick death to a worthy opponent, I kinda felt sorry for him because it highlights the realism of death and the things it can do to a person.
I’d say the gameplay is definitely better, but the story didn’t hit as hard as the first game. Except for the Black Suit/Symbiote suit parts, that was freakin awesome!
I also did like the wholesome moments like Spiderman sitting on the bench with the old man, or his pigeon buddy from the first game. Also the Harlem museum and the carnival were cool (sure i wouldn’t want the whole game to be like that, but i did like it a little.)
RIP pidgin man
I felt that Spider-Man 2 had the best side missions in any video game, especially a super-hero game. Every one felt like care was put into it, and had a great payoff.
@@carlpacquing2575 agreed! The Side stuff was fun, especially the Hunter bases; i hope we get more like them in DLC, plus the ability to replay main/side missions.
It’s a shame there was so much politics in this game, could have very well earned Game of the Year otherwise.
@@carlpacquing2575Strongly agree. Hunter bases, Sandman crystals, and so many other side missions were so engaging and intriguing. And of course, very emotional. Howard’s death really got me.
I can only dream of how exciting and scarier it would be if the old peter model got the symbiote. The new one was menacing but the old face model would've been something else. He seems more serious. I think pc modders will do this in the future
I think old peters face we to chubby
The new model has more of 'bad boy' vibe which kind of fits him, although doesn't fit Peter overall.
It definitely would have been a lot better since it was also more expressive. His eyes were so realistic, this one's eyes don't express anything at all which is why he looks so unnatural.
In my opinion gameplay wise its way better but storywise I much prefer the first game. The second game's story never hit as hard as the first game did with Otto's downfall and May's death. Harry's (almost) death didn't have anywhere near as much as an impact for me and I think that might be because of the amount of things this game has going on. Because the first game had less going on, it had more time to flesh out the characters and really made me feel for them more. The villains in Spider-man 2 were just weaker in my opinion. Kraven was boring unlike Mr Negative who was a fresh villain most spider-man fans were unaware of. Kraven doesn't have any personal connection to Spider-man which in my opinion makes the conflict less interesting while Mr Negative works with Aunt May which makes that story way more personal and therefore way more interesting for me. Even thoughTony Todd's performance as venom was so fucking good, I wasn't anywhere near as invested in where the story was going with him as I was with Doctor Octopus as I think there was more time spent on developing Peter's relationship with Otto as there was with Peter's relationship with Harry. Despite this there is still plenty of stuff with the second game I prefer to the first game. Like I loved how the second game explored Miles' anger at Li for taking his dad from him and actually explored this in a good amount of depth. They then let Miles come to know Li and start to understand his pain and even though Miles never forgives Li he lets go of his hatred and this whole arc is just done incredibly well. Not only does Miles let go of his hatred but he makes Li a better person. This is exactly the type of thing spider-man would do and it just shows how well the writers actually understand the character of spider-man. Both games highlight the sacrifices that come with being spider-man and although I think the first game does this better, I still think both of them definitely have their merits
Kraven’s depth comes from the fact that he wants to die on his feet to a true challenger, very Spartan like. Is it as impactful as him having a personal tie with Peter? No of course not, but not ever villain needs to. I like that all of Kraven’s motivations are all personal to himself and really tragic in a way. While I didn’t agree with his villainy I think it’s understandable as human beings to want to go out on our own terms. Plus I like how each villain had different motivations. Li and Doc Oc both just wanted Norman to pay, for different reasons sure, but same motivation none the less.
I agree with everything but Kraven
I think Kraven was awesome BECAUSE he had no ties to Peter. You had to work to understand his motivations, just to find out he's a fucking psycho. He is actually purely bad. No sympathy at all.
We need villains who are just bad.
And he actually got what he wanted: A glorious death
I definitely agree with Venom as Harry. I like Harry, but his fall was knowhere as impactful as Otto.
Also, Harry as Venom is a huge mistake to me. Apart of Venom's character is that they both hate Peter.
Eddie for having his career ruined by Peter, and Venom being like an angry EX who wants to get revenge for being dumped.
They have a reason to team up
Also the Symbiote Invasion was stupid, something like that should NOT be crammed into a third act. It needs whole game focus.
Miles' arc with Lee was good, but that's it. The rest of his story sucks. And just takes away the time we could be adding more into Peter's Symbiote Arc.
And I think the biggest waste is Peter's Symbiote Arc. It was nor onlt rushed, but according to the game only lasted for a few days? REALLY?!
He should of had the Symbiote for 70-80% of the story. A longer story as well(Story was too short in my opinion)
I'm just gonna say it, if they wanted to "Reinvent" Venom as they said, then they should of made Peter Venom
Like you said about Otto being the main person to "Fall" in the first game, I think despite Harry being painted as the main one, Peter's Fall was the better of the 2. What if they made the entire story focus on Peter's Fall, and he does fall so hard he becomes Venom, turning from the lead protagonist into the lead antagonist of the game.
They can aline that with Miles, but with Miles put all the focus on his revenge Arc instead of the boring filler that came with it.
And instead of making Harry the villain, make him the moral compass like May was. Where despite his sickness, he would rather die saying goodbye and being the one to "save" Peter, than be a Symbiote monster
@@spider-man500 idk man I thought it was good. I disagree about Peter having the symbiote for 70-80% of the game, that would be way too much. Just my opinion. I’m sorry I’ve let ya down there bud.
Straight up gameplay is better but story is weaker
@@spider-man500nah idk about peter being venom but i agree on everything else and the story could of done things like the symbiote invasion better if the game was just longer.
Story wise first game I feel was better. Kraven was done extremely well in 2 but black suit Peter and Venom both felt rushed. The first game had a lot more emotion as well.
However, the gameplay was much better in SM 2.
I know Peter didn’t retire but I’m a bit worried he won’t be playable for a while after this as the Avengers are canon to the insomniac universe but they haven’t helped at all and while it’s explained in the first game I don’t think they’d be gone for almost 2 years so they might give him the same treatment.
Miles will be in MM2 if they make it, and Peter will be pack in SM3
One thing I love about this game, the Symbiote didn’t seem to have any negative effects before bonding with Peter. I don’t know if there’s much actual evidence for this, but it’s my headcannon that Venom wouldn’t of happened without Peter taking the Symbiote and bonding so much with it.
Yes, in the comics the symbionte gets evil after being rejected by Peter
Well yeah I mean it is true
Glad to see I'm not alone with my thoughts on the story. First game had an amazing story and the otto/aunt may twists were so good
I've enjoyed both spiderman games and I'm looking forward to seeing where the next one takes us. One thing I liked about the second one was the chase section with black cat. And that portal jumping would be a great mechanic for some sort of spiderverse game, jumping between different new yorks would definitely make the game feel fresh and not another copy and paste with a fresh bit of paint.
I think it is better. It’s the perfect example of innovating where it counts and building from what you have already had in the first game. Just like with the Arkham games, they built on what was already there. New combat moves, the prototype weapons and new swinging shit plus obviously better graphics and more boss fights and a more complex story. Not to mention the character swapping mechanics and the new fast travel system. Upgrades where it counts
2:58 uh is there a small seam hole in that building?
Would be cool to see a future video comparing original Spider-Man 2 and Spider-Man 2 2023 or on shattered dimensions if possible!
Shattered dimensions? Or web of shadows?
The gameplay, fluidity, being able to be both Peter and Miles, and the fact that the game focuses on the Symbiotes (my favorite comic book concept) all are things I think this game does better than the others.
I do think the first game had an overall better story that hit me more emotionally than 2 did. 2 was close but the story for 1 is still my favorite.
Tbh the 2018 story is just better, more personal and executes it’s plot twists better. Not saying SM 2 is bad, it’s a better game overall, just the story missed the mark, specifically in act 3 but other then that it’s my favourite game of all time. Gameplay, graphics and map are all very good and it deserves GoTY and I’m excited for Carnage(?) DLC.
My biggest issue with the story is that the first act is a little too long and drawn out compared to the second and third. It feels like we didn't get nearly enough Bully Lowenthal and maybe one more mission playing as Venom and a few more missions of screentime with him would've been nice. It all came and went pretty quickly IMO.
@@sketchyecchiakechi Symbiote city should’ve lasted longer or be toggleble after endgame
@@sketchyecchiakechiu are the kind of people to complain about a game being stretched out but when a game doesn't do that you start complaining about it being too short. Wtf
@@Billy_the-cat It's almost like extremes are never good regardless of the direction it's going. Crazy concept, I know 🗿
@@sketchyecchiakechithe second act shoulda been a little longer. Have lizard be a bigger threat for a while and have that be a hunt for lizard. Not really an instant find. And I think everyone played the game to fast. Yeah pacing is an issue, but when everyone beats a game in a a few days, or a week or two, then pacing will be a lot faster cause the person beat the game pretty fast
The more I think about it Spider Man's 1 story is better overall because the characters were more developed. Of course we know who Harry is, but we don't know Insomniac Harry that well. There wasn't enough development with him to make me care. Tbh it developed MJ more than it did Harry when MJ is pretty developed already. But they did well considering they had to balance out two stories in the same game. The symbiote arc was my favorite but it felt just a bit too short.
There a complete dissonance. I'm not a big Spidey fan so I don't really know who Harry was. He's just Peter's and MJ's friend from way back. I don't really know what the three of them have been through together. And the game doesn't do a good job at establishing their bond. So when the cast gets sad about Harry's health... I found myself not caring because I personally don't care about him or have any emotional connection to him. I think the game just expects me to fill in the blanks and care. But I did not have the emotional investment in the slightest to care.
There's some weird problems that weren't an issue in the other 2 games, such as not being able to listen to previous JJ and Danika podcasts? Just some quirks all around and the combat can get overwhelming, I don't think the parry feels right and most often than not I dodge an enemy only to get hit by an attack from offscreen.
I dislike how they made Peter almost die like 5 times only to be saved by Miles... then have him saying Miles is better than him repeatedly.
Nothing against Miles but they don't have to put Peter down like this...
True, but that is important to Peters story. Then when he gets the symbiote he feels good like he's not lacking anymore. So yes them putting Peter down is sad but it makes for a great symbiote Peter :)
Also i don't remember them ever saying Miles is better than Peter
Building one person up is tearing someone else down.
@@wumbowyatt2300 They don't say it, but they show it, and have Peter himself keep saying it
@@wumbowyatt2300"why would the city need me (Pete) when it has you (miles)."
this game was so fun but now I got nothing to do in this game since I finished it, i can’t wait for the dlcs and new game plus
Already got all the ps5 trophies, 100% the story once and doing my second play-through now, i loved it! I wish we had new game + and more suits, some of the suits for peter were shite
Generall, yeah. But the thing is lacks is that wow factor that the first game had. It's not really its fault as Insomniac just 100% nailed absolutely everything in the first game. So now the sequel is largely just a iterative update.
I actually liked that the big bosses had several health bars. It made them feel more epic than the last games, but it saves after each one so it wasn't too frustrating to die.
I really thought the fight with symbiote MJ was amazing. Having all of the deep-down personal feelings out during the fight really showed the realness behind maintaining a relationship with a superhero such as Peter who is constantly busy and can't maintain anything outside of the hero's occupation. MJ's words (albeit influenced by the symbiote) felt so real and were necessary for Peter to hear so that he can truly realize what impact this life has on the people around him.
Its so cool while peter has the black suit when in the rage mode the controller like grows but as soon as you get the white suit it disappears, I haven't seen anyone talk about this either and I thought it was a cool detail.
Mf you got spoiled you shoudent know about the white suit yet. Your ruining the story for yourself
Spiderman 2018 is a masterpiece superhero game, so is miles morales, and so is spiderman 2. I don’t think it’s a situation where 1 is better than the other. Insomniac has genuinely created all time level video games here
Nah..spider-man 2 suck.
I love focused tighter stories. Which is why the first game and Miles Morales were better. While gameplay and set pieces have improved it's the story that makes it what it is. I was more emotionally invested with those games.
Okay that's stretching it.
Miles's story wasn't good either. Bad villain, Phin Sucked, Side Characters sucks. And the story was way too short.
@spider-man500 i disagree. miles' story felt tighter and less bloated than this one. Still enjoyed SM2 though.
Just had a stronger emotional connection to the characters in Miles' and Peter's standalone entries.
@@spider-man500story is to short cause it isn’t a main game lmao. For what we got, stakes were high, good enough characters, good motivation, just not done enough with phin. Story was still good tho and was impactful. If you didn’t like it then that’s fine. Your opinion isn’t the same as others
Things that are better in Spider-Man 1 then 2
1. Sound fx
2. Music
3. Gadget wheel
4. Suit powers
You know what we need? A Marvels Spider-Man 2VR! I would play the hell out of that!
I think Spider-Man 2 is better than the first game in terms of gameplay, boss fights, cutscenes, and Yuri Lowenthal’s performance. As far as story? The first game was better in that regard.
do you think you will do every version of lego batman? i think more lego videos would be great
Spiderman 2 was my first next gen experience and the first playstation game i've played since the ps2. I gotta say the load times and the fast travel shocked me, I didn't even realize that was possible yet.
lived up to my expectations story wise. BUT it feels like insomniac took a cod approach to it. We for some reason didnt have mission select like in miles morales. No ng+ and so on. Like i feel that those should be there when i get the game rather than having to wait to have them updated into the game.
6:51 - idk why that's so funny, it's just jumping through a wall but I can't stop rolling on the floor
Gameplay wise? Absolutely.
Story-Wise? Nope. First is better
Far From Home didn't really work, but not because of the Europe setting.
First game: The perfect Peter Parker story.
Second game: Overall better experience, it has you very much engaged and builds up so well but doesn't land quite right. After Venom is introduced it kind of goes downhill with the exception of the Scream fight and Anti-Venom reveal. Logically it is very consistent, emotionally: it grabbed me from the beginning but it lost me a bit at the end.
4:22 Since when did miles join the dark side of the force
Spiderman 1 Peter have alot of cool suit mods and abilities which in 2 have not
I hope I can see in the Future that he retain some of the Gadget Techs and use in Future battle such as the Spider Drones Spider Arms and if possible he had Web Blossom which personally I considered as one of his strongest mods in terms of utility and crowd battle taking down multiple opponents at once
As long as Insomniac doesn't take any tips from Volition and the Saints Row reboot they'll be just fine.
Are the Peter Parker sections optional in either game? I hate forced pacing changes.
I know this would probably be a short video but I think would be awesome if you could compare every version of the canceled video game movie tie in of the cancelled Spider-Man 4 movie I completely understand both versions were never finished due to the cancellation of Spider-Man 4
Does peter Parkey actually save anybody in this game? I’m pretty close to the end and as far as I can tell, he’s been nothing but a pain in everyone’s ass while Miles Sue is the definition of perfection 🤦♂️
Personally I loved the two games, they complement each other very well, everything that needed to be improved in the first one they did and the new additions, it's a treat without the work, too bad certain bugs and wokist propaganda but apart from that the game is excellent and one of the best of 2023.
Ps:
You should know it Peter never really stops he always comes back and anyway he doesn't really say it that he stops it definitively, he just takes a break. in the DLC we will undoubtedly incarnate Miles, we will have a Spider-Man Miles Morales 2 to develop Cindy Moon and a game dedicated to the latter and in the third Peter will return it is logical for me, we cannot do the Green Goblin without Peter is like making Robin and Joker fight.
Yo babe flandrew just uploaded
Dam i hope it comes out on steam, i really want to play it but dont have a ps5 :/
the first one is so much better than the second there's just something better about swinging around in the first game and its not there in the second and not to mention the face models
Is there any mod to bring back the og Peter Parker Face
"That's not May's house, that's Kame house." Best line.
More importantly:
Which one is more cinematic and treats itself more seriously?
Now that's a true contest!
I think both treats itself seriously enough… but second game was rushed as hell.
The first felt more focused and mature with way better humor. Second ones tone was all over the place.
How about which one is has more political messaging? SM1 has pride flags, but SM2 has way more LGBT elements, but also a gun control narrative, the climate change conspiracy (it's not real lol), black worship, and more.
I can't believe that my question was taken as anything other than satirical.
goated as fuck satire dude
please can you do a video comparing each MJ and saying how she gets uglier each time 🙏🙏
A v important future video idea
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I feel like the Venom story was a little disappointing, what happened to Venom being an evil monster who wants to torment Peter and make his life hell and kill him? when did it become venom wanting to take over the world web of shadows style. I feel like due to venoms popularity people tend to forget he's main focus is Destroying Spiderman, i get with the story its about healing the world and what not but he didn't even want to kill peter he wanted him to Join him like huh? They could've made Venoms plot a lot more personal and go into more of harry being jealous of how norman treats peter better then he treats harry and feed into that and the symbiote hating him for getting the symbiote off him. Also Venom was not in the game no where long enough, Such an iconic character such a great Villain to only have him for 5 missions bit disappointing. Gameplay wise this game is much better then the original but the original story is a lot better and a lot more personal.
Tbh as good as the games are, Insomniac hasn’t followed the canon at all. I know some will argue it would be too hard that way, but your spider sense honestly shouldn’t be active during the fight with Venom. The symbiote should be weak to fire, but it isn’t. Most importantly, Venom should’ve been Eddie Brock. Why are we always having Harry forced on us as of late? He’s either the Goblin over Norman, or apparently now he’s Venom over Brock. I don’t get it, does anyone really like Harry? For me, in any universe, he’s almost always the most boring character in Spider-Man. Peter would never simply “walk away” from being Spider-Man. It’s not in his nature. “With great power” you know the rest. MJ from the comics was much more understanding of this. They still found the time to live their lives. In this series, she’s lowkey kind of unlikeable. Selfish, like she expects him to give everything up and forget other people’s safety just for her. I’ve seen numerous interpretations of the sinister 6, never saw Mister Negative in any of them until the Insomniac series. Now, if you’ve beaten this game, you’ll know they are introducing Silk (Cindy Moon). In the comics, she was bitten by the same spider as Peter, and is 3 years older than him. In this series, it looks like she will instead by part of Miles’s story arc, meaning she’s probably also a teenager, and probably not bitten by the same Spider as him. It’s working for them so far, the games are great. But they need to tread carefully. Their recent announcement that Miles is now the main guy has been met with a polarizing at best response. And sales numbers indicate what they’re doing isn’t smart at all. The 2018 game is the highest selling super hero game ever at 33 million. Miles Morales in 2020 only sold 6 million. A lot of people only view him as a cheap knock off of Peter, same age he was when he started, same origin story, same personality. Same powers, with the addition of some op electricity based powers that I personally think make his sections too easy. I get that they want diversity, but why not create an original and badass black character in that case? Or do a Black Panther game? Leave the already established and beloved Peter Parker Spider-Man character alone. Just my 2 cents. I’ve dragged this on long enough.
Spidey 2 is a great game. The biggest flaw is the confusing title & I didn't like the redesigned Pete, MJ, Miles (very minor complaints)
Spiderman 2 is a better game from a gameplay standpoint because of better traversal and comabt.
but the story well its good both ways but the 2nd game shits soo much on peter that its funny xD
But when are you going to review Marvel’s Guardians Of The Galaxy? One of the best Marvel video game adaptations
The only bad thing about Spiderman 2 was the "new" suit Miles rocked at the end. Why did they think that was a good idea?
Yeah I didn't like that suit for Miles
Probably because Adidas paid them to
I really enjoyed the story but the ending was interesting 😁
Oh maannnnnnnn! The health bars 🤣💀
I always thought spider-man 1 had a more lively atmosphere
Miles: Very Well, JEDI! [Shoots crazy lightning]
Black suit Peter: (grunting in pain)
gameplay, story, and mechanics wise yes, current post game not so much, but just remember everyone: THe reason it seems like its bad is because 2020 was the beginning of the age where everyone started complaining about every single little detail about everything. Yes it started even before 2020, but back then the only thing complained about was actual stuff to complain about.
Rn people have very small nitpicky complaints and act like that the biggest issue. When in reality, it’s only a big issue cause they have nothing else to complain about. No one has any major complaints. Just small stuff
I'm starting to be afraid that Flandrew won't cover every version of Ultimate Spider-Man and Web of Shadows
I will
A shattered dimensions video or web of shadows review would be great
@@Flandrew Thank you very much. I'm sure Ultimate Spider-Man in particular is alot of work to go through since there are so many different versions, I'll be patiently looking forward to it along with all the other web-heads around!
@@Flandrew You didn't touch on the game being super woke, even if it doesn't bother you I think it should've warranted a mention in the section where you acknowledge the uglification of MJ.
@@Vulpaswtf are yapping about buddy 😂
I love both games but Spider-Man 2 is a natural improvement for me, much like going from the first Sam Raimi spider man film to the second Sam Raimi film
i feel like the original spiderman had a better scripted and executed story on average (i mean the mj missions were such a chore) but the all the broadening and improvement in the second game make it more fun to play
I just hope Peter is the main character next spiderman game they just tyna make everyone more exclusive now
Exactly peter should be the main character not miles
Felt like a continuation to me. Outside of the controls, felt like one long game.
The first one is still the DEFINITIVE Spider-Man experience
Plus it has the impact webs
In my opinion Spiderman 2 is better than the first one it lived up to my expectations
It definitely lives up to everyone expectations because Insomniac never disappoints
Why did Peter chuck out old bananas when he could have made banana bread?
Judging by the take-out cartons littering his house I guess he isn't doing great with basic maintenance.
Where does he keep his phone?
Story: First game is better
Gameplay: Second game is better
Peter's new face single handly killed the franchise for me. The original was so good it doesn't even compare.
Yeah the remaster and miles Peter face looked off, the first was amazing the new sm2 one is fine but it just looks like Tom and Toby but the first look like a mix between all 3
Venom was badass in the game and Tony Todd’s voice really kills it. Even though his voice is much fitting for Eddie Brock Venom rather than Harry. But I wish Carnage was the main villain instead.
Hopefully we get Green Goblin and Carnage DLC. My only gripe with the game is that it didn't last longer so more would be awesome.
Green goblin is going to be sm3 carnage is going to be a dlc
@@Crocc101 Carnage is gonna be the main villain of the Venom game thats coming out according to the insomniac leaked plans.
@@ZombieBacon13 well there is leaks for the carnage dlc maybe in the carnage dlc you fight him in the end but lose
LIAR!!!!!!!!!!@@ZombieBacon13
@@faded.177 Its literally in confirmed documentation that was leaked directly from the studio. You're not smart.
I prefer the story of Spider-Man 2018 better but in every other aspects the new game is better other than the gadgets being removed
Yes it's better then the first game and Metacritic says so otherwise. Marvel's Spider Man 2 got 91 while 2018 game got 87 on Metacritic
I absolutely love this game, but it's lacking basic features both previous games had. There is no New Game +, no way to repeat missions, and less interesting enemy bases than before. Some fan-favorite suits are also not present in the game, and the game is VEEEEERY woke. They had "Arab" characters speak with Indian accents, which is kinda offensive, and some gay characters for absolutely no reason. Had they invested their time into fixing the glitches and adding all the missing features instead of the woke garbage, this game would have been a 10 for me. Too bad.
How do people not like this games story i feel like its way better
HOW
something felt off you have to admit
Story was fine in both games. Why do people care about story so bad?
idk@@Joshenator-xp1ff
@MvsticDreamz the first game felt more like spiderman. Instead. Spiderman 2 story felt rushed and it put more of a focus on miles which is annoying since spiderman put the focus on Pete
@@MRSYMBlOTE All that is opinions. I loved the story, I didn't think it was rushed at all. It definitely wasnt a focus on miles because I remember being forced to play as Pete way more than miles. And besides, the whole point is that there are 2 spidermen now..
For me, Spider Man 2 Exceeded my expectations. the graphics were so realistic, the new suits and gadgets were really slick and clean, the story was a little zig-zagged but I was still in awe every time something happened. My only bad comment about it was the boss fights. they were awesome to go up against but the lizard and venom boss fight were just to hard on ultimate difficulty. I had to tone down the difficulty just to beat the lizard because he did so much damage to me in 1 second or before I even realized I was back in the fight/new phase. But other than that, this game was amazing to play and platinum and i cannot wait for SM3 to come out and see if it can do better than a game I already have as "the best spiderman game known to man" (my opinion)
Kid got low standards.
@@headshotmaster138 ???
Yes
The game play was definitely better, but I felt like the second half of the story was rushed. Plus with the over usage of fake outs was just getting a bit too much.
No, nothing is rushed. It's amazing
I’m confused why everyone is saying the first game had a better or more emotional story. Both games straight wrenched my heart out of my chest and stomped on it.
Wow, your bar for quality storytelling is so very low.
Because the first game put more focus on it.
It had a simpler and thus tighter script that allowed all the emotions and impact hit harder.
@@Vulpas or opinions are different grow up!
Both are good but 2018 story is better
@@PufflePufflePuffle disagree I think they are equally good.
I feel like this game is objectively better but only marginally so
Personally no. The story is worse, the graphics kinda look odd in some places so it's hard to say it was truly better, the gameplay is imo less fun.
Honestly, it's at best about the same.
@@cunnymanidk I prefer how fast the swinging is, imo gameplay is much better
The whole "best Spiderman stories are when Peter Parker/Miles Morales and Spiderman's world collide" stopped being fun by Miles Morales.
This game brings if it ain't broke don't fix it
Yea
There's not a ton of side missions in this as in the first game which I actually liked most of the side missions in 1, so I can't tell if the main story in the 2nd game is also shorter or if it's about as long as the first games main story and just doesn't have the side content to pad it.
Which is still strange because there's a long period where the game doesn't let you do any side missions and you can only go from one main story location to the next
I think there’s less side missions in this game. Main missions are said to be the same length, but lack of side content make the game feel small and boring tbh. Like in MM there were the FNSM app stuff, and while those are still there, there isn’t nearly as many app stuff or side quests like the first two games had
Gameplay wise it's definitely 2 but I have to give story to 1.
I like the scale and size of the first game. Somehow the city seems bigger, even though the buildings compared to Miles and sequel look bigger. Maybe I’m losing it but that’s pretty much the only thing I can say lol. Overall the 3 games we have gotten, have been great in my humble opinion.
I think its because you swing so fast in the 2nd game, you zoom through the City and it feels smaller
The swinging and gliding really made travel ALOT easier lol
If peter is broke who pays for their tech?
I love your videos Flandrew but I'm gonna skip this one for now due to the story spoilers! I appreciate the warning at the beginning though ❤️
S-M 2 feels like it merged with god of war now
Short answer: yes.
You mean no
people are wondering if its better than the first one but they also thhink it can beat totk. botw was so much better than the first spider man but totk is like botw 3.0
If you think about the story insomniac copy pasted the whole spiderman 1 story and turned it into spiderman 2..just think and let me know if you get it
Smash, next question
I think much like Tears of the Kingdom, I'd love for a 3rd game in these series, but not with the same map. I'd love a Spider-Man game set anywhere besides New York, it would be cool
Yah but that's very not Spider-Man. He has non NYC stories, but being in NYC is a core part of the character
So NOT Spider-Man?
I mean New York is literally Peter's home.
Why would Spider-Man be ANYWHERE than New York.
Nintendo aren't making a ToTK sequel anyway
@@spider-man500 But because of this setting it limits the potential of the games. Ithink everyone would be bored of New York 3.0. I know it's part of him but it's limiting for the player rather than having an original setting that can be expanded.
@@arthurdurham But because of this setting it limits the potential of the games. Ithink everyone would be bored of New York 3.0. I know it's part of him but it's limiting for the player rather than having an original setting that can be expanded.
To be quite honest this game is excelent. It is unfortunate that it couldnt really make the same jump in scope that Arkham Asylum made to Arkham City (I mean that would meen Spider Man could go all the way to Philadelphia and that would A be silly, B the game would be 500gb). The Ultimate difficulty is awesome I feel this one was much tougher than both 1 and MM. The only grype I have with this game are the boss battles. To get back to the Arkham games the boss batles in Asylum were objectively garbage and then we proceeded to get some of the best boss battles ever in the following 3 games with Freeze, Deathstroke (in orgins obv) and Manbat being some of the biggest standouts. And in now 3 Spider man games the boss battles just feel very same-ish (apart from Sandman, but come on its an intro level), you jump around using your mobility and make an opening using the environment/web/gadgets/or parry in this last game. They especially dropped the ball on the Miles - Symbiot Peter fight. I mean even on Ultimate he gets webbed up so easily and the entire fight felt very formulaic you jump around using your mobility and webs/the bell to create openings. Bruh you have the same mobility, you should not be able to do that. I think they should have made Symbiot peter be able to A predict some of your moves B track you down while swinging. Same goes for Venom, he canonicaly does not trigger your Spider sense, there were so many cool gameplay elements they could have made out of that. I just hope that by introducing a mobile flying character like Green Goblin in 3 they can make at least one creative one.
yes