Imagine your broken gearing being like Braille, you're blind and you're doing your best. You can never do enough Prelude content, it's a beautiful car.
Congrats on getting it back on the road! One small tip on checking compression. It is typically best to hold the throttle body open during the test. A closed throttle body has a chance to throw off your readings by a small percentage since it will prevent air from being able to move freely through the intake manifold. The difference varies by engine and intake valve condition, and the difference is usually minimal on a healthy engine. For example, if you had leaking intake valves, you would notice a bigger difference between testing with the throttle body closed versus open. Compression would test lower since an open throttle body would allow more air to escape past the problematic valves. Same applies for a leakdown test. Your compression numbers are great. I wouldn't be concerned at all. Re-test it after break-in and keep the throttle body closed so you get a test with the same condition, then test it a second time with the throttle open just to see. About the SH transmission, it does require being mated to a SH block. Same exact engine code but the casting is slightly different and will prevent usage of a base transmission on a SH. This is where it becomes a royal PITA for SH owners... If your block ever gets trashed, you must find a SH block, or you must swap to a base block & base transmission. It is really hard to find a good SH block. The go-to rebuild method is to sleeve your original block so you can keep your transmission. Thanks for being thorough with your transmission tear down. It was interesting to see. Props for learning about it all so quickly and for being so transparent with where your knowledge stops. Keep it up!
I got one in good condition if you're interested. 158k, manual, exhaust, aem intake & headers. nothing you can't remove if you don't like. Still runs great.
Yo man love the show. Only wish I saw your posts before I did my rebuild. I've gone through many of the same issues that your going through now. It's taken a bit, but my pearl white 01 sh is running pretty dam awesome now, don't give up on the lude. I my be able to help you through some issues if you need. Just watched your last post, and this little trick might help with the Speedo. Hold down both the gas and the brake (right down to the floor) turn the ignition to the on position with out starting. Hold gas and brake for 5 seconds then turn off ignition.let sit for 10 seconds, turn on ignition let sit for 10 seconds then start car. This process should reset your idle and Speedo. Good luck bro and once again awesome job
By the way, what internals are in the engine? I had around 270psi of compression in my euro r block. I expect stock p5m pistons to make about 220psi of compression if the motor is broken in properly. I need to do another compression test on my fully built motor since I am now around 1000 miles on it. I haven't really been getting on it due to fueling issues so I am just hoping the rings sealed up like they should. What oil did you run for break in? I run Amsoil break in oil in the built motors. I have used Lucas and regular non detergent straight weight oil in stock blocks with good results before too though.
My internals are all stock, I simply did a refresh on the motor, meaning I replaced the Piston Rings, Crank Bearings, Rod Bearings, Oil Pump, various seals and gaskets, all new Valves and Valve Caps. My motor still isn't fully broken in yet... should I wait till then to see if the compression numbers change?? 👀👀 I didn't hone the cylinders nor did I gap the rings because the rings are OEM and I assumed they were within spec from the manufacturer. Break In, I used the cheapest conventional oil I can find. Couldn't find break in oil at any of the local stores but you know, my motor isn't 'built' and so I don't think it was necessary to use specific break in oil
awesome videos. 2 questions, what triggered your check engine light after the swap, was it the speedometer? and where is your aftermarket intake intake?
love seein the trani taken apart from an sh good video, and i know this isnt the place but i got a 90 3rd gen and was wondering if ya knew where i could score some front bumper turn signals?
Ok couple things. So as far as I know, a base model transmission will not bolt up to the motor in the SH, however i dont know if you can just swap the differential. The rest of the internals are the same though. I have a SH transmission sitting here collecting dust, rebuilt with carbon synchros. The block on the SH is physically different than the base model, even though they are both designated H22A4. One major difference is the physical location of the oil filter being relocated because of the ATTS system mounting location. Im fairly certain the bolt pattern is different too. As far as fluid, all we run in ours is the amsoil synchromesh for street cars. Have had amazing results. If you intend to track the car, you can run their 75w90 manual transmission fluid. BUT thats for when you get it hot at the track. Its too thick for normal daily driving, so dont leave it in there.
Bro; I didn’t know that the base trans would not bolt up to the SH block. Thanks for clarifying that 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼 And awesome! I’ve thinking about flushing the Honda MTF after he break in period and replacing it with Amsoil Synchromesh. Thanks for the insight!
I have a 2001 prelude. That’s starting to have starting issues. Especially in the heat but once it starts it runs just fine. Was wondering if you can point me in right direction to fix it please.
Mine does the same in both the heat and the cold but thats because I have a few upgraded electronics, ex: sub, speakers, 2 amps, resistors for the tailights. Everything is hooked up to my radio and so I simply disable everything before starting up the car by removing my radio face. If I couldn't do that, I would consider upgrading or cleaning your grounds. If that doesn't help, I would think your starter is going bad
I’m french ! I love all your videos. Just a question, wich name / RAL of Red peinture was used on your Prelude ? Sorry for My approximative English… Have a good Day 😉
can’t put a type sh trans on a base model to do the atts unit .. I did purchase a working m2u4 trans from an 01 Type SH … didn’t fit my base so if you’re interested then let me know ! good content man !
So the mounting holes don’t line up? I’ve seen BBA alliance offer a block off plate for the ATTS unit which also acts as a mounting point for the intermediate shaft but that’s when you put a base trans on a SH block. I still don’t know how exactly the conversion works
check engine was probably caused from the speed sensor it throws the car into limp mode. And as you are doing your compression test you should have the throttle body wide open.
That (One, two, three) at 11:22 made me sing.., Uh My baby don't mess around Because she loves me so And this I know fo sho (uh) LMAO happy to see her back to life tho 💯
@rawrkee!!!! I love the content just found you! GET THAT OIL OUT OF YOUR TRANSMISSION ASAP! If it’s the “Honda genuine manual transmission” oil from online. It feels smooth but it will 100% mess up your transmission. You’re better off with synchromesh from autozone. It’s thicker and that oil you got is too thin. I went through 2 transmissions with that oil in my h22 accord. Both got stuck in gear and wasn’t able to get it out!!
Ahhh snapp, good thing I was planning on flushing the trans fluid after the break in period for the engine. Do you think Amsoil Synchromesh would be a good option?
@@Rawrkee I think it’d be fine. Personally I’d probably go with royal purple. Cause they’re top of the line. Yea it may be expensive. But you wouldn’t really need to change your oil for while. It’s been a while since I’ve had my Honda. So I can’t have much input on other brands cause I went through 2 using that same oil and then gave up. Be sure to not over fill it and I’d probably not go too fast for awhile and make sure to go through every gear. That’s just what I would do if I had another chance with it. I think the Honda mtf is more for newer transmissions cause it’s thinner And these 90s-2000s preludes and accords have miles under them. But yea bro just trying to help out with my experience and don’t want to see you go through another transmission like I did!
Loved you got your Lude back n goin. It'll be nice if you could share how you got those tranny together l think so others can learn. Awesome job brother. How l subcribed to your channel coz your'e not afraid of showing all your mistake.
Dude. What the heck do you do to your car? I haven't seen anyone with half as many problems to fix as I have from you. It is like you break the car on purpose just to make a video about it. Lol. I need to build a trans for mine too. I still have a stock trans which isn't going to work with 800whp. Lmao
Woohoo! Back on the road! Love to see it! 💪😎
Also thanks for the shout out!
Imagine your broken gearing being like Braille, you're blind and you're doing your best. You can never do enough Prelude content, it's a beautiful car.
Proud of ur efforts and hard work grind don't quit 💪
Yessirrrr, we only fail when we give up 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Congrats on getting it back on the road!
One small tip on checking compression. It is typically best to hold the throttle body open during the test. A closed throttle body has a chance to throw off your readings by a small percentage since it will prevent air from being able to move freely through the intake manifold. The difference varies by engine and intake valve condition, and the difference is usually minimal on a healthy engine. For example, if you had leaking intake valves, you would notice a bigger difference between testing with the throttle body closed versus open. Compression would test lower since an open throttle body would allow more air to escape past the problematic valves. Same applies for a leakdown test.
Your compression numbers are great. I wouldn't be concerned at all. Re-test it after break-in and keep the throttle body closed so you get a test with the same condition, then test it a second time with the throttle open just to see.
About the SH transmission, it does require being mated to a SH block. Same exact engine code but the casting is slightly different and will prevent usage of a base transmission on a SH. This is where it becomes a royal PITA for SH owners... If your block ever gets trashed, you must find a SH block, or you must swap to a base block & base transmission. It is really hard to find a good SH block. The go-to rebuild method is to sleeve your original block so you can keep your transmission.
Thanks for being thorough with your transmission tear down. It was interesting to see. Props for learning about it all so quickly and for being so transparent with where your knowledge stops. Keep it up!
This Kat knows what they talking about ☝️
The prelude Gods looking out for you. Really cool that your show us what you learnt about the gearbox.
Well done on the build mate.🤙
Thanks bro! Hopefully she'll last another 20 years before needing a rebuild again 🤣
Love your content man! I’m out in Arizona trying to buy a prelude from watching your stuff 😂 Keep grinding man !
Go for it they're not fast but very fun to drive, try and get a base model
I got one in good condition if you're interested.
158k, manual, exhaust, aem intake & headers. nothing you can't remove if you don't like. Still runs great.
@@kenwu7 thanks for the offer man but I just got one today actually!
@@Dreamlude
You're welcome,no problem & Congrats man, hope you enjoy it
Yo man love the show. Only wish I saw your posts before I did my rebuild. I've gone through many of the same issues that your going through now. It's taken a bit, but my pearl white 01 sh is running pretty dam awesome now, don't give up on the lude. I my be able to help you through some issues if you need. Just watched your last post, and this little trick might help with the Speedo. Hold down both the gas and the brake (right down to the floor) turn the ignition to the on position with out starting. Hold gas and brake for 5 seconds then turn off ignition.let sit for 10 seconds, turn on ignition let sit for 10 seconds then start car. This process should reset your idle and Speedo. Good luck bro and once again awesome job
Can't quit now! Keep going
yesssirr, thanks bro!
Congrats on getting it together bro! Keep it up with these videos, definitely enjoying it, your energy, the Prelude and Civic!
All just a prelude to a better Prelude, love the work and the show man!
Hell yeah man!! Congrats on beating the Curse!! Get those codes checked out!! 🙏❤️🎉
Thanks bro!! Luckily it’s only one code ^_^ but it’s an expensive fix… 🤣🤣🤣
By the way, what internals are in the engine? I had around 270psi of compression in my euro r block. I expect stock p5m pistons to make about 220psi of compression if the motor is broken in properly. I need to do another compression test on my fully built motor since I am now around 1000 miles on it. I haven't really been getting on it due to fueling issues so I am just hoping the rings sealed up like they should. What oil did you run for break in? I run Amsoil break in oil in the built motors. I have used Lucas and regular non detergent straight weight oil in stock blocks with good results before too though.
My internals are all stock, I simply did a refresh on the motor, meaning I replaced the Piston Rings, Crank Bearings, Rod Bearings, Oil Pump, various seals and gaskets, all new Valves and Valve Caps. My motor still isn't fully broken in yet... should I wait till then to see if the compression numbers change?? 👀👀 I didn't hone the cylinders nor did I gap the rings because the rings are OEM and I assumed they were within spec from the manufacturer. Break In, I used the cheapest conventional oil I can find. Couldn't find break in oil at any of the local stores but you know, my motor isn't 'built' and so I don't think it was necessary to use specific break in oil
awesome videos. 2 questions, what triggered your check engine light after the swap, was it the speedometer? and where is your aftermarket intake intake?
I’m currently trying to figure out what the green/black and yellow wires are going into the top of the transmission housing
Congrats ! Love to see it
Thanks bro!
love seein the trani taken apart from an sh good video, and i know this isnt the place but i got a 90 3rd gen and was wondering if ya knew where i could score some front bumper turn signals?
I'm in Kilgore Texas I'm looking for a drop in ready H22A if you know of any trying to bring a 2000 prelude base back to life
What’s up! Film to clutch pedal adjustment I actually need to do my 01 Lude
It was good to see the lude out brooooooooooo
Ok couple things. So as far as I know, a base model transmission will not bolt up to the motor in the SH, however i dont know if you can just swap the differential. The rest of the internals are the same though. I have a SH transmission sitting here collecting dust, rebuilt with carbon synchros. The block on the SH is physically different than the base model, even though they are both designated H22A4. One major difference is the physical location of the oil filter being relocated because of the ATTS system mounting location. Im fairly certain the bolt pattern is different too.
As far as fluid, all we run in ours is the amsoil synchromesh for street cars. Have had amazing results. If you intend to track the car, you can run their 75w90 manual transmission fluid. BUT thats for when you get it hot at the track. Its too thick for normal daily driving, so dont leave it in there.
Bro; I didn’t know that the base trans would not bolt up to the SH block. Thanks for clarifying that 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
And awesome! I’ve thinking about flushing the Honda MTF after he break in period and replacing it with Amsoil Synchromesh. Thanks for the insight!
Hey bro is the cooling fan on the prelude is it normal for it to keep running?
I have a 2001 prelude. That’s starting to have starting issues. Especially in the heat but once it starts it runs just fine. Was wondering if you can point me in right direction to fix it please.
Mine does the same in both the heat and the cold but thats because I have a few upgraded electronics, ex: sub, speakers, 2 amps, resistors for the tailights. Everything is hooked up to my radio and so I simply disable everything before starting up the car by removing my radio face. If I couldn't do that, I would consider upgrading or cleaning your grounds. If that doesn't help, I would think your starter is going bad
Hey man, what wheels u running what’s the spec and tires as well thanks
that lil jack you used to put the new sh trans in is sick i gotta get one lol
edit: love your videos keeping doing Rawrkee
Nice glad it worked out bro
Do you make sure the diff of the new transmission is a LSD one cause I can tell the diff from the old tranny is a LSD one
What rims do you have I like them
I’m french ! I love all your videos.
Just a question, wich name / RAL of Red peinture was used on your Prelude ?
Sorry for My approximative English…
Have a good Day 😉
hey, sorry for the late reply! The name of the vinyl wrap I used on my prelude is 3M Gloss Dragon Fire Red
Great Work Thank You!
Thanks bro!
I found your channel and atm I’m a kid with a fever dream and I wanted to know how large the engine bay is for the Prelude?
can’t put a type sh trans on a base model to do the atts unit .. I did purchase a working m2u4 trans from an 01 Type SH … didn’t fit my base so if you’re interested then let me know ! good content man !
So the mounting holes don’t line up? I’ve seen BBA alliance offer a block off plate for the ATTS unit which also acts as a mounting point for the intermediate shaft but that’s when you put a base trans on a SH block. I still don’t know how exactly the conversion works
The casings between the base model and sh transmissions are not the same. You can not stick an atts unit on the non atts transmission case.
Love you’re videos man!
Preciate it bro!
where did you get that “still working on it” prelude banner in your garage, need that.
edit: found it and ordered it😂
Glad you found it, can't wait till you get it, I'm sure you'll love it! :D
I love the Lude......I kick myself in the ass every time i think of it.....90 amd 91 SI's........DAMMIT MAN .....
check engine was probably caused from the speed sensor it throws the car into limp mode. And as you are doing your compression test you should have the throttle body wide open.
That (One, two, three) at 11:22 made me sing.., Uh My baby don't mess around Because she loves me so And this I know fo sho (uh) LMAO happy to see her back to life tho 💯
When u do a compression test you need to push the gas padel so the throttle can open
What part of Tx you from.
Dallas!
@@Rawrkee in the Houston area. Are you on IG?
Rawrkee, you should get a better header heat shield, to go with the cleanliness of the rest of your bay
make sure to check the fluid :D
doing amazing & doing it yourself! keep it up, man.
next mod.... well you do have an AWD transmission 🤔
Keep it up.
Come back need more vids
Rawrkee compression should be 180 across the board also your vss speed sensor is going out
@rawrkee!!!! I love the content just found you! GET THAT OIL OUT OF YOUR TRANSMISSION ASAP! If it’s the “Honda genuine manual transmission” oil from online. It feels smooth but it will 100% mess up your transmission. You’re better off with synchromesh from autozone. It’s thicker and that oil you got is too thin. I went through 2 transmissions with that oil in my h22 accord. Both got stuck in gear and wasn’t able to get it out!!
Ahhh snapp, good thing I was planning on flushing the trans fluid after the break in period for the engine. Do you think Amsoil Synchromesh would be a good option?
@@Rawrkee I think it’d be fine. Personally I’d probably go with royal purple. Cause they’re top of the line. Yea it may be expensive. But you wouldn’t really need to change your oil for while. It’s been a while since I’ve had my Honda. So I can’t have much input on other brands cause I went through 2 using that same oil and then gave up. Be sure to not over fill it and I’d probably not go too fast for awhile and make sure to go through every gear. That’s just what I would do if I had another chance with it. I think the Honda mtf is more for newer transmissions cause it’s thinner And these 90s-2000s preludes and accords have miles under them. But yea bro just trying to help out with my experience and don’t want to see you go through another transmission like I did!
Oven cleaner would have been great 👍
Loved you got your Lude back n goin. It'll be nice if you could share how you got those tranny together l think so others can learn. Awesome job brother. How l subcribed to your channel coz your'e not afraid of showing all your mistake.
My speedometer just started doing that the other day lmao
Lets gooo!!! Good stuff bro! Ima turn my car on this weekend live on here if you are interested to watch bro!
speed sensor needs to be replaced gotta remove the harmonic balancer/ timing cover to get to it ! will make car go in limp mode when fails
Dude. What the heck do you do to your car? I haven't seen anyone with half as many problems to fix as I have from you. It is like you break the car on purpose just to make a video about it. Lol. I need to build a trans for mine too. I still have a stock trans which isn't going to work with 800whp. Lmao
💀💀💀 how do you go about building a trans that can handle more power???
Congrats on getting it back up and running. Maybe you will get lucky and find some gear sets and rebuild the first transmission as a spare
Hard work always pays off
I saw the title and said “oh no”💀
You put a new slave in there?
yeah, I went with the Exedy Slave and Master Cylinder
Prelude has to be the least reliable Honda