Shock absorbers, bump stops, tops. How to replace any component on Alfa Romeo 147, 156 and GT937.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ส.ค. 2024
- Hello guys! This is the complete procedure for replacing shock absorbers, bump stops and bellows or boots, shock absorber tops or springs in the rear of the Alfa Romeo 147, 156 and GT 937. For the 156 and GT the interior of the car differs a little and with that in the future there will be videos follow-up to show you how it's done.
The symptom of the car was the rear wheels rubbing against the wheel arches, this happens when the stops that serve as a limiter are no longer doing their job due to age. In this case, the shock absorbers still had salvation because they are like new and that only deserved the replacement of the essentials.
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I followed this video to replace the shocks on my 147. Very well explained! Thank you for the detailed walkthrough of the whole process!
But I do have a problem after replacing them in the rear. Seems like the top mount of the rear strut is not flush with the body work and if you tighten the nut down it does not press agains the body (in the boot). This means that when wheels are in the air, the whole shock assembly and wheel can move up and down a bit. It doesn't seem right, maybe issues with the top mounts? They are KYB.
Another strange issue, after the whole rear struts renewing, i get a vibration in the rear right, starting at 40-50km/h and gets worse at 90. Wheel balance is not an issue. What can I look into to fix this vibrating rear corner?
Hello. Thank you very much for watching! The fixation of the top mount to the body is only done through the mount it self. The upper plate will not press down the mount to the body, it as to float about.
Like z it as to work even without the top plate. If it drops off, the mount is not good. I've seen that only the originals are to trust, but they are very expensive.
About the vibration I believe by your description that you have a broken tire. I have a complete video to determine vibrations.
Vibrations video:
th-cam.com/video/gzSWRfqPtLA/w-d-xo.html
@@alfaromeonoproblem Thanks for taking the time to reply and thanks for the link. It was the wheel bearing in the end that failed. It did not have play in it, but it did not rotate evenly thus causing weird noises in the cabin.
For the top mounts thing, i think they can remain that way if nothing else fails and I don't have to raise tha car often off the ground 😆
Thank you very much for the follow up
i had shocks, springs, wishbones and trailing arms replaced on my 156 last year. the mechanic was swearing like a sailor because everything was stuck. but with your instruction, i can do it myself now! thanks a lot 🙏
I'm very glad the videos are good for you. I hope you can do it! Have a nice weekend
I'm so glad I had this job done by my mechanic! I replaced my rear shocks preventatively, especially because I load my GT a lot lately on long trips. Thanks for the video, very professional and educational.
Thank you very much for watching the video! I'm you liked it, have a great weekend
Thank you for another very informative video! I too have noticed the same thing with the top plate having a few millimeters gap to the body on both one of my 156 and GT when rear wheels are on ground. When wheels are off ground, the gap disappears. So good to know the most likely reason is the top mount being bad and not doing its job anymore properly. As a "do-it-yourself" solution, I had an extra pair of used top plates, so I drilled out most of the inner part from them and was left with a "spacer" to put between the body and top plate.
Thank you very much for watching the video. And thank you for sharing your experience and work
I like the camera angle you're using. You can see it very well! I'm doing this job currently on my 147. I live in the Rhineland area in Western Germany we also don't really have salt here on the roads as the winters are pretty mild and it's also not as rainy as on the other side of the channel in the UK but the long rear bolts on the right were pretty hard to get out even with an impact gun. Corrosion hasn't been the issue. It looked like it has never been taken off and therefore was very stuck. I used an impact gun a lot of hammering, penetrating oil and even with the torque wrench set to over 200 Nm I had issues. It finally broke lose after at least an hour of hard work. It went with a big clonking sound and I already thought I snapped it but when I took it out I just saw that it has been settled in so much over the years and also had a slight bend. So always be prepared to have issues even without rust. On the other side I didn't have problems with that but the shock strut didn't came out also not because of rust but because the most upper rubber lip of the strut mount was stuck inside the car. I had to cut it around the edge with a knife to get it out. Just mentioning it. Some cars have never been taken apart...
Thank you very much for watching and for sharing your experience! Yes, sometimes thing just do not play along! Have a great weekend!
I had same problem, it did not look rusty but it took long time. What did work for me is a lot of penetrating fuild and when it goes liite out i hammerit it back and repeat ...little more out hammer it back ...
Very good thorough tutorial, best I have seen for this task. I have had a new pair of rear shocks sat on my work bench for over a year waiting for me to build up courage and time to fit them to my GT. Even though you didn't have problems with the bolts, you filmed the job and explained it so clearly, I think I will give it a try when we have some dry weather forecast here in the UK. Thanks again.
Hello. I'm super glad to hear that! I really put do n much effort into this, the payoff is comments like yours. Makes me carry on and do so much more! Do not forget to dip all hardware in anti seize on the assembly. Really go nuts with it.
Have a nice day.
How did you go Bruce? Thinking of attacking this myself too and after watching this video, I am feeling more confident. Thankfully I do not live in the UK. Australia, not so much rust.
If weather permits, I plan to replace the rear shock absorbers on my Alfa 147 this weekend. Good video as always.
Thank you very much! Good work for you
Thank you for your videos, I do like these longer ones because you give all the details :)
Also it's really nice to have your opinion on the different brands !
Thank you very much! I'm glad because a lot more longer videos are to come. Thanks for watching
Always a joy to see your videos, again and again. Just a question this time. Is that white paste a lithium based grease or completely irrelevant?
Hello. Thanks for watching them! This is ceramic based. Very expensive but.. very durable and multipurpose
Miałem problem jakiś rok temu z tylnymi amortyzatorami w mojej 147. Podczas jazdy poczułem zapach palonej gumy. Okazało się, że talerzyki dolne trzymające sprężynę skorodowały do tego stopnia, że z prawejn strony sprężyna docisnęła go do opony 😬 Z uwagi na to, że tak się nie dało jechać, a byłem akurat przy garażu stwierdziłem, że przynajmniej z tej strony wymienię amortyzator sam. Zajęło to 2 dni z pomocą kolegi 🤣 Drugi raz bym się za to sam nie zabierał. Te 2 śruby na dole amortyzatora były tak zardzewiałe, że musiałem je wyciąć. Przy okazji musiałem również wymienić jedną tulejkę wahacza poprzecznego. Z uwagi na to, że nie chciałem go demontować z samochodu to tulejkę wprasowałem podnośnikiem hydraulicznym ustawionym w poziomie i kwadratową stalową ramką 😁 Gdyby śruby szły jak na Twoim filmie robota byłaby przyjemna. Tak czy inaczej świetny film jak zawsze. Pozdrowienia z Polski 👍🏻
Hello. Can you translate this to English or Portuguese?
I can try but my English isn't so fluent as yours. I even started to write in English but when I think about these all mechanical stuff names which I don't know I decided to write in Polish because under my text should be translate button on TH-cam. Don't you have it? If not I'll try to write it in English as good as I am able to 😊
You can use Google translate. I use a APP to read the comment and more. It's for us creators, yt studio. It does not have the translate opinion
I had a problem about a year ago with the rear shock absorbers in my 147. While driving, I smelled burning rubber. It turned out that the lower plates holding the spring were corroded to such an extent that the spring pressed it against the tire on the right side 😬 Due to the fact that it was impossible to drive like this, and I was near the garage, I decided that at least from this side I will replace the shock absorber myself. It took 2 days with the help of a friend 🤣 I wouldn't do it myself a second time. Those 2 bolts at the bottom of the shock absorber were so rusty I had to cut them out. By the way, I also had to replace one wishbone bushing. Due to the fact that I didn't want to disassemble it from the car, I pressed this bushing with a hydraulic lift set horizontally, a square steel frame and short piece of pipe 😁 If the screws went like in your video, the job would be nice. Anyway, great video as always. Greetings from Poland 👍🏻
I'm glad to you to share your experience. I hope one day to have imported cars here with lot's of rust, to show my way of removing stuff.
Good video! But before you try:
-Just changed the rear struts (shocks, springs and flanges) one week ago on my 156 sportwagon. Is a pig of a a job because the two screws holding the shock to the wheel hub are always rusty and stuck. Without an impact gun is almost impossible. Sway bar links needed to be cut with an angle grinder.
Hello. I understand that in some countries rust is a enormous problem. I am trying to take that in consideration more and more on the videos. Have a nice weekend
Mine came out easy. No rust and no salt on the roads as I live in Australia.
Thank you very much for watching
Nice T-shirt, btw. :D
Thank you very much! Bought it a few years ago
Hello, I bought the same new stop buffers as you. I noticed that they are longer than the original ones, or what is left of my original ones. I installed eibach 30mm springs, does it fit with the stop buffers because they are longer.
Hello. They are a bit longer but no problems with original springs.
If you lower, you may want to cut the first bulge off
@@alfaromeonoproblem yes, I will do that.
On my Alfa 147 Q2, there was no dust protection on the rear shock absorbers, only stop bumpers. Can this be? Or did someone forget to install this? I was very surprised when I saw it.
@Fs_Media someone did forget or they were not able to fit them
hi friend.. can i change one by one shock absorbers... i dont have this crocodile lifter..just a classic small lift
Hello. Yes you can. The only thing that can be hard to remove it the sway bar links
Vou usar o teu vídeo como guia comprei agora 2 suspensões. Ver como corre😁
Muito obrigado por ver o vídeo. Que corra bem
Which brand for the shock absorbers and strut bearing do you recommend, except original? Or would you install the original strut bearing again? Thanks!
Hello. This shocks and top mount least around 20 years in Portugal. Then I use Sachs shocks and original top mounts only. With whatever bump stops I find.
@@alfaromeonoproblem My spring plates are heavily rusted, I bought new Sachs shock absorbers, do you think I should use the old, original strut bearing? The year of manufacture is the 147 2009.
@Fs_Media here in Portugal we have no issues with rust at all, I always reuse almost everything. If you have rusty parts, try to replace them
Very good videos. 👍....have the same car 156 1.9 jtdm 110 kw 2005.....What do you think about kayaba shock absorbers and eibach springs,front and rear?
Forgot to say..... most of the roads are bumpy, not that good
Hello. They are better than TRW but not by much. Sachs are the best choice by far. They are the original supplier too.
TRW will make a lot of noise almost immediately and kyb last a bit longer only
@@alfaromeonoproblem So Sachs for shock absorbers and TRW for springs?
Springs where provided by eibach. But I guess trw are ok.
amazing video nice job 🤩🤩🤩
Thank you very much! Share this with your friends!
I have a problem with 147 when i drive the the rear drops nearly tyres touching the liner after leaving parked for an hour it comes normal 4 fingers between the tyre and arch ! Is it the shock absorber or the spring problem ?
Hello. You may have very old stocks and the internal oil is não like grease. I made a video explaining that if you want and how to test it
th-cam.com/video/6PnyScIVwmc/w-d-xo.html&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
Check the part where I sit on the cargo area
Love all you video ❤ well done
Thanks for the video! Which shock absorbers fits good with red eibach pro kit, in your opinion?
Hello. Thank you very much! The Sachs ones are the best for me. Do not use TRW in any way.
@@alfaromeonoproblem TRW definitely not, was thinking about KYB gas absorbers, but now I’m in dilemma when you mentioned the Sachs.
Kyb is not that good. Will fail fast and do noise too
@@alfaromeonoproblem Thanks a lot!👍🏻
Sachs or SNR top mount is better option? I already replaced mine few years ago and I used Monroe top mount. But now I wanna use lowering springs and need to take it apart again, so I will replace this Monroe top mount if that brand is garbage.
Monroe now is very bad at everything. Awfully really. Sachs is the way to go
@@alfaromeonoproblem
Thank you for the quick response! :)
One quick question more. Is the Alfa Romeo 147/GT rear top mount the same as the Alfa Romeo 156? They have different part number, but some pages claim that they are compatible.
@Alfafanatico compatible but different in stiffness. Comfort, sport, GTA and more
I just bought two Sachs rear top mounts. Made in China and in an unopened package, there were two top mounts of completely different colors (black and silver) and heights. Will never choose Sachs again. Shock absorbers also produced in Turkey. Must find another brand to use. Maybe Impergom - they are cheaper but their manufacturers are in Italy, Germany and Spain.
Hey there im trying to get the bolt of at the top of the tower inside the trunk of the car but it seems like i need to hold the nut while trying to loosen the hexagon shaped bolt in the middle any tips for that?
Hello. Yes, you can try like o did on the 164.
A 6 ou 7mm alen bit on the shock shaft and they hammer it down to shock it. It as to be quite vigorous
How long did it take to replace this suspension?
Hello. Around 3 hours total.
YT keeps deleting my comment. :(
Yt sometimes doesn't know what they are doing..
@@alfaromeonoproblem I've sent you an email regarding that ceramic paste, since I can't tell you here for some reason.
Did you try to send links?
@@alfaromeonoproblem Yeah. First with link, and the comment gets deleted. Then copied the comment with half the link, which was not even a link just the forwardslash and numbers, but got deleted as well. Then third time with just the item number at the end, and it stayed. But got deleted after about half an hour or so.
It's the AI, I have a lot of comments to review and decide. Most are not harmful.