I started to load the .357 with 2400 in about 1970 for a Ruger Blackhawk. My favorite load has always been 14.0 with the RCBS 162 swc/gc bullet. This is a pretty stiff load, and has taken quite a few deer out of a 6" model 66 Smith. Just loaded a box of them last week for my Marlin 1894.
One of my favorite bullet molds and 2400 is also one of my favorites. I just worked up a load of Speer 158 gr Sp bullets and used 14.3 gr 2400. 1600 fps out of my lever action and dead nuts accurate.
I'm going to load up some more and will definitely try them in the 1894 as well. I want to see the velocity difference between barrels. Then I need to find a powder that will work efficiently in both funs without having wasted powder in the short barrel. Thanks, brother 👍
Yessir, I just didn't know if using the same data would be wise, so I stayed away from their top end load. This video started last October and I finally got to shooting it last week, ha!
@@DummyRound I found several pounds of 2400 about two years ago and bought two. I haven’t ran across any since. If I’d known it would be so long before I found any more I would’ve bought it all. I just found a pound of Unique and bought it. It was the only one on the shelf I’ve seen in at least 3 years. Alliant powder has been very hard to find In general. I’ve been seeing some Bullseye, and should have bought it even though they want about $50-$60 a pound these days. The next time I run across any it’s coming home with me.
Yeah I haven't seen Alliant in probably that long. I'm not paying that much so I'd let it sit unless it was specifically your favorite for something needed 👍🇺🇲
Overflowing cases from a double charge is good. I'd rather make a mess on the loading block/press than find out on the firing range. Great idea on the powder coat identification. I've mixed up rifle loads on 2 occasions before and it is very frustrating.
I like bulkier powders for that reason, but you have to use more of it, so it doesn't last quite as long. I always try to mark my brass some how to keep myself from mixing them up if I were to dump them out or something 🙃
i used to use 13.0gns with a 168gn bullet so 158 i would say 14.0 would be good charge for a full powered .357 magnum cartridge, on the + side 2400 is know for its lead cast bullet friendly elmer keith used 21.0 gns of 2400 for his old load for a 250gn LSWC .44 magnum. great job my friend.
Hey, brother! Thanks for stopping by. I'm going to try some more at 14gr and see if I can shoot them any better. I'm usually the biggest variable, especially so for hand guns and trying to test accuracy while shooting off hand. I only have this partial bottle of 2400 so I'm going to use it sparingly until I can find another one out in the wild. Have a great Sunday!
I want to try that also, but was going to start with the 358-150-1R since it was slightly lighter and a bit less lengthy. Maybe 3-4gr of something like Unique? Might need a slower burning powder? There's some limited data for 165gr subsonics, but I haven't looked at that in a while.
I need to go take notes from your series of 45LC videos and get some of my own loaded up. H110 is a great powder for 357mag, but usually need to be pushed near the top end for it to tighten up. Also, fireballs!
@@DummyRound I am using a bullet that was designed for the 7.62 ×39 and sized down to .308 I got the mold from Midway it's a rcbs mold 7.62-130-spl part number is 82022 that's for rcbs , not Midway, mine are gas checked and lubed with rcbs rifle bullet lube and the lead I used they dropped at about 139 -140 grains
@@DummyRound those rounds I made I shot in my bolt action Ruger M77MK2 rifle and were quite and no flash at the muzzle that I could see with 20 grains of 2400 , CCI primers large rifle.
I remember seeing that mold and thought I should have picked one up, I think they were a limited run. I bet they'd be great for 300blk, and I'm sure I'd try it in 308win as well. Do you know how fast they were moving?
Good to show mistakes so others are not afraid of screwing up, Looks like could definitely go up a little in charge I really like 2400 for 44 Magnum been available around me where you looking for it?
Yeah I might go up a little higher, but we'll see. I just check the local shops around my area. Usually just Hodgdon products and the other lines they have acquired. Thanks.
I cant find a load for LEE 124 grain flat nose 9mm powder coat . I have HS6, CFE pistol, and Ramshot ZIP. What data do you look at when powdercoating? 125 lead cast, 124 fmj, etc??????
For most pistols and powder coating, I just look for data with the same bullet weight, and always start on the bottom end of their suggested load. All of those powders you have should give plenty of data to start with. Just start low and go up by 0.1 or 0.2gr until you get good function, then find an accurate load for your gun. Good luck👍
Also, if your allow/mold drops heavy, say a 124gr mold drops closer to 130+gr, look for data using the next higher weight class and work up from there.
@@DummyRound my concern there is the huge 1+ grain difference between say 124gn fmj vs 124gn lead cast. So basically im looking for 1000-1100 fps on 124gn powder coat?
Generally, traditionally lubed boolits should be ran slower and with less pressure than a FMJ to prevent leading... with PC that pretty much goes out the window for most pistol applications. Even at rifle velocities, think 2k+ fps, PC works just fine for protecting your barrel from leading. At that point you just need a harder allow and GC if possible to aid with accuracy. As far as the 9mm goes, take an average from all of your sources and find a safe starting point to work up from.
And yes, most of my 124gr molds drop around 130gr and end up moving around 1050-1100fps range. I haven't pushed them much harder if I have an accurate load.
Thanks, sorry, I meant to say "Herc 2400", but just said "herco" instead. I was looking at data from an old Lee manual from the 60s and they had Hercules powders before Alliant took over. Word Nazi away, just don't call a magazine a clip round these parts, lol!
@@DummyRound 2400 usually shoots well in about everything I've tried it in . My 357 is a snubby so I don't use it in that . It would shoot fire balls . It is awesome in the 44 .
@davidburns4176 yeah, getting ridiculous.... I decided I'm just buying VV powders for now on until the market corrects itself in like 10 years (hint: it wont)👍
Yeah, I can't say "I've never done that!" But yeah 👍 it's all good. Lessons were taught and learned. Your toil is our gain! Awesome groups! Good to go! Holy patroly you shot that!😲🫣😱 You got some cajones! Big brass ones. But I'm an amateur at best. So don't take that the wrong way. Just surprised no judgement.
Haha, yeah I was a little hesitant, but it was just the starting charge. I probably wouldn't have tried that if it were on the top end. I was assuming it would just have fire formed out, which it did, but I didn't think it would have been so perfectly done as if it never happened! Thanks, brother!
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What's your favorite load with 2400?
Afternoon man!!
Howdy there, partner!
I started to load the .357 with 2400 in about 1970 for a Ruger Blackhawk. My favorite load has always been 14.0 with the RCBS 162 swc/gc bullet. This is a pretty stiff load, and has taken quite a few deer out of a 6" model 66 Smith. Just loaded a box of them last week for my Marlin 1894.
That's awesome, thanks for sharing🇺🇲👍
One of my favorite bullet molds and 2400 is also one of my favorites. I just worked up a load of Speer 158 gr Sp bullets and used 14.3 gr 2400. 1600 fps out of my lever action and dead nuts accurate.
I'm going to load up some more and will definitely try them in the 1894 as well. I want to see the velocity difference between barrels. Then I need to find a powder that will work efficiently in both funs without having wasted powder in the short barrel. Thanks, brother 👍
Hercules was the owner of the powder back in the day.
Yessir, I just didn't know if using the same data would be wise, so I stayed away from their top end load. This video started last October and I finally got to shooting it last week, ha!
I use 14.9gr of 2400 with a 158gr XTP. No pressure signs and accurate. With 158gr lswc 14.5 grains does the job.
Awesome! I just wish 2400 were more available these days🥺
@@DummyRound I found several pounds of 2400 about two years ago and bought two. I haven’t ran across any since. If I’d known it would be so long before I found any more I would’ve bought it all. I just found a pound of Unique and bought it. It was the only one on the shelf I’ve seen in at least 3 years. Alliant powder has been very hard to find In general. I’ve been seeing some Bullseye, and should have bought it even though they want about $50-$60 a pound these days. The next time I run across any it’s coming home with me.
Yeah I haven't seen Alliant in probably that long. I'm not paying that much so I'd let it sit unless it was specifically your favorite for something needed 👍🇺🇲
Same here 15gr with the XTP is perfect in my 2.5 barrel and out of our 22" Handi Rifle barrel we get 1800fps.
Sounds like a smoker!
I run the 15gr load of Skeeter. It is a stiff load. Seems safe in my guns with very little primer flattening.
That should do the trick! Thanks.
Good stuff DR! I have that same mold and love the bullet. Shot well with the .357 loads I did a while back.
Thanks, brother! Do you have a video on it? I'll see if I can duplicate your results if I have the same powder.
Good job
Thanks
Tighten that press down chief. Looks like it's gonna go flyin' off the table when you fully engage the ram.
🤣 it's since been mounted on a riser.
@@DummyRound 👍🏿
Overflowing cases from a double charge is good. I'd rather make a mess on the loading block/press than find out on the firing range. Great idea on the powder coat identification. I've mixed up rifle loads on 2 occasions before and it is very frustrating.
I like bulkier powders for that reason, but you have to use more of it, so it doesn't last quite as long. I always try to mark my brass some how to keep myself from mixing them up if I were to dump them out or something 🙃
i used to use 13.0gns with a 168gn bullet so 158 i would say 14.0 would be good charge for a full powered .357 magnum cartridge, on the + side 2400 is know for its lead cast bullet friendly elmer keith used 21.0 gns of 2400 for his old load for a 250gn LSWC .44 magnum. great job my friend.
Hey, brother! Thanks for stopping by. I'm going to try some more at 14gr and see if I can shoot them any better. I'm usually the biggest variable, especially so for hand guns and trying to test accuracy while shooting off hand. I only have this partial bottle of 2400 so I'm going to use it sparingly until I can find another one out in the wild. Have a great Sunday!
@@DummyRound thank you brother i have a few videos coming up as soon as this heat wave lets up.
I was thinking if trying those in 9mm sized to 356 but there is no data, don't think I have a good powder combo cause it sucks up so much powder space
I want to try that also, but was going to start with the 358-150-1R since it was slightly lighter and a bit less lengthy. Maybe 3-4gr of something like Unique? Might need a slower burning powder? There's some limited data for 165gr subsonics, but I haven't looked at that in a while.
I’ve been doing 45 Colt lately but I need to get back to 357 magnum. I only have a jar of H110. Been looking for 2400 or 4227 to try.
I need to go take notes from your series of 45LC videos and get some of my own loaded up. H110 is a great powder for 357mag, but usually need to be pushed near the top end for it to tighten up. Also, fireballs!
@@DummyRound I’ve got some more loads loaded up for 45 colt. Just need to get out and do the videos lol.
I've got about 10 things on deck but no range time this week 🤣
Going by memory but i think i use 14.1 grains of 2400 with my jhp loads, great video and enjoyed it!
Awesome! Thanks, brother 👍
I use 2400 in my .308 win to fire lead bullets
Awesome, what bullet? I plan on doing that as well once I can find some more of it!
@@DummyRound I am using a bullet that was designed for the 7.62 ×39 and sized down to .308 I got the mold from Midway it's a rcbs mold 7.62-130-spl part number is 82022 that's for rcbs , not Midway, mine are gas checked and lubed with rcbs rifle bullet lube and the lead I used they dropped at about 139 -140 grains
@@DummyRound those rounds I made I shot in my bolt action Ruger M77MK2 rifle and were quite and no flash at the muzzle that I could see with 20 grains of 2400 , CCI primers large rifle.
I remember seeing that mold and thought I should have picked one up, I think they were a limited run. I bet they'd be great for 300blk, and I'm sure I'd try it in 308win as well. Do you know how fast they were moving?
@@DummyRound no I don't my magnetospeed would not register them
Good to show mistakes so others are not afraid of screwing up, Looks like could definitely go up a little in charge I really like 2400 for 44 Magnum been available around me where you looking for it?
Yeah I might go up a little higher, but we'll see. I just check the local shops around my area. Usually just Hodgdon products and the other lines they have acquired. Thanks.
I cant find a load for LEE 124 grain flat nose 9mm powder coat . I have HS6, CFE pistol, and Ramshot ZIP.
What data do you look at when powdercoating? 125 lead cast, 124 fmj, etc??????
For most pistols and powder coating, I just look for data with the same bullet weight, and always start on the bottom end of their suggested load. All of those powders you have should give plenty of data to start with. Just start low and go up by 0.1 or 0.2gr until you get good function, then find an accurate load for your gun. Good luck👍
Also, if your allow/mold drops heavy, say a 124gr mold drops closer to 130+gr, look for data using the next higher weight class and work up from there.
@@DummyRound my concern there is the huge 1+ grain difference between say 124gn fmj vs 124gn lead cast.
So basically im looking for 1000-1100 fps on 124gn powder coat?
Generally, traditionally lubed boolits should be ran slower and with less pressure than a FMJ to prevent leading... with PC that pretty much goes out the window for most pistol applications. Even at rifle velocities, think 2k+ fps, PC works just fine for protecting your barrel from leading. At that point you just need a harder allow and GC if possible to aid with accuracy.
As far as the 9mm goes, take an average from all of your sources and find a safe starting point to work up from.
And yes, most of my 124gr molds drop around 130gr and end up moving around 1050-1100fps range. I haven't pushed them much harder if I have an accurate load.
Herco is a powder between Unique and 2400 on the burn chart . Alliant used to be called Hercules . I'm sorry for being a word Nazi .
Thanks, sorry, I meant to say "Herc 2400", but just said "herco" instead. I was looking at data from an old Lee manual from the 60s and they had Hercules powders before Alliant took over. Word Nazi away, just don't call a magazine a clip round these parts, lol!
@@DummyRound 2400 usually shoots well in about everything I've tried it in . My 357 is a snubby so I don't use it in that . It would shoot fire balls . It is awesome in the 44 .
Mine is only a 4" barrel so I'm probably losing a lot of potential as well.
Can't get it anymore.
One of my favorites. Brownells has some, but it's not cheap bit.ly/49jTOKD Thanks!
$400 for 8 lbs.
@davidburns4176 yeah, getting ridiculous.... I decided I'm just buying VV powders for now on until the market corrects itself in like 10 years (hint: it wont)👍
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Yeah, I can't say "I've never done that!" But yeah 👍 it's all good. Lessons were taught and learned. Your toil is our gain! Awesome groups! Good to go! Holy patroly you shot that!😲🫣😱 You got some cajones! Big brass ones. But I'm an amateur at best. So don't take that the wrong way. Just surprised no judgement.
Haha, yeah I was a little hesitant, but it was just the starting charge. I probably wouldn't have tried that if it were on the top end. I was assuming it would just have fire formed out, which it did, but I didn't think it would have been so perfectly done as if it never happened! Thanks, brother!