No one can accuse you of using "fluffy bunny" loads in your six guns, Jed. As 1.3 cc works out to around 20-21 grains of powder. A fairly stout load, by any metric.
I load my own black powder cartridges for my 1861 Navy and 1851 Navy Pietta revolvers with Howell conversion cylinders and I load black powder 45 Colt cartridges for my Uberti 3rd model Dragoon and my Pietta Remington new model Army with Taylors conversion cylinder. Great video, thank you .
Excellent video. I use a 158 grain bullet for my Frontier Cartridge ammo. It takes up more room in the case than my usual 105s. Also my fixed sight revolvers shoot to point of aim with the heavier bullet. I need all the help I can get when shooting FC Gunfighter!
Thanks Abe E.S. Corpus. I was using 158 grains for years... but, I get a little more controllable load (faster follow up shots) with the 125. Not a lot, but enough that I can feel the difference. ~Jed 🤠
So glad I found this video. Just getting back into the SASS life after a 25yr break. All I have left is my long range side match rifles. And they only shoot real black, not going to risk original Trapdoor rifle or Winchester Centennial .45/60 rifle. Still shopping for main match guns. Only suitable shotgun right now is 113 years old. Might be time for a newer model… Going to stick with .38/.357 for suppository slingers… Trying to transition back from c&b only, haven’t shot a cartridge single action in years, other than pest control. Had forgotten how tiny SAA grip frames actually are… Thanks for the tutorial, week 1 of recovery since kidney removal, been binge watching anything cowboy shooting related. See you at EoT in a couple years…
Great video Jed! Made me realize how similar (should be since you learnt me) yet barbaric my system is lol. Sometimes I soak overnight if I my brass has sat dirty for a wile. My sonic cleaner is a plastic jug with brass, dawn dish soap, water and me shaking the piss out of it for 5 - 10 min (yay cardio!). Then I dry it overnight. I started out with the full Jed reloading method as shown but have changed it some. I’ve been doing all the steps on my turret press. Deprime, prime, hand scoop 1.3 cc powder into the powder stage of the press, set bullet, crimp, wipe bullet clean, admire my bullet making prowess, add to box, repeat 😁. I occasionally add the “clean up powder mess after you pour powder in funnel before rotating the case to the powder stage” step 🤪 I’ll also add... rinsing brass in the kitchen sink has a slight chance of lead contamination and a moderate chance of bridal ire 😬.
Thanks Croc! I was really looking forward to your feedback on this episode. Since you and I have talked about this process so much I wanted to make sure that I captured what I shared with you in a video format. As for cleaning in the sink, I use the utility sink in the laundry room (used to have a utility sink in the reloading room of the old place) and a pan that is dedicated for the purpose of brass drying only (not one from the kitchen... for fear of that “ire” 😉). Thanks for the feedback my friend! ~Jed 🤠
We totally agree with the Lee hand primer. We like Lee equipment also. We use Lyman and Lee. Gust was just saying his Lyman Orange crusher is starting show it’s age.
Well, it’s a video I’ve been promising for years so... maybe I was late 😉 These are kinda hard to put together since I film ‘em over time and then piece it all together at the end. Honestly, this is the 2nd, if not 3rd, time I’ve shot this process. I just wasn’t happy with the way it came out before. But this one worked out pretty well. I probably could have trimmed up the cleaning segment a bit... but 🤷♂️ I added timestamps in the description so folks can skip around. Anyways, hope it was worth the wait for ya! ~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV totally get it! I make some videos for training at work. I've done a couple that were 9 hours of editing for a 10 minute show. Pain in the kiester, but worth the effort I think. (mostly 'cuz you only have do it ONCE instead of half a dozen presentations!)
Absolutely! I’d rather do this than try and explain it to everyone that asks for my formula 😊 and, an hour of editing per minute of video is about average. 👍
thank you for this video, it is really appreciated, hope to see a 45LC one in the future, no one in my area that i have met has any info on black powder reload data. found a data sheet on hodgdon powder website and your videos are very helpful and just in time for shooting season my local sass club is planning for end of april for first shoot of the year.
I load .45 colt with black powder just use 35-40 grains of 2f gunpowder. 1.5F is ok too it was all I could get for a while and it worked well. Just don't use 4f.
I do it exactly the same way. But we shoot 44WCF. I deprime first on Lee APP press. Then wet tumble in Frankford Arsenal tumbler with Simple Green and Lemi-Shine. Dry in sun. Mary primes with RCBS priming tool with the shell holder. When we get critically low, I load on Dillon 550d using Unique Missouri Bullet Company Hi-tech coated for Mary's loads, BlackMZ and bullets I cast myself and use no lube for my loads. Otherwise, just the same.
Great info Bibbyman2, thanks. I shoot 44/40 in my rifles, you might have already seen my method for that: th-cam.com/video/OS9NpvRQXs8/w-d-xo.html ~Jed 🤠
Great info now I can try black in my .38 Spl and .357. Do you know what Lee scoop I can use for a .38 Long Colt ctg. and some150gn Western Bullet Mould co. conicals? I might want to try some black in an old Colt DA 38 "New" Army model of 1892. Then I can chrage up San Juan Hill and hope I don't get nailed by a 7x57 Spanih Mauser(wish me a lot of luck with that one!). Only in my mind's eye of course!
I’ve never loaded for the .38 Long Colt. Should be plenty of data out there though. That Turret Press has served me well. I often think about upgrading/updating but that’d require a whole new learning curve 😉
It’s just a habit that I got into because of the process I use - because I put ‘em all out in the trays after priming in order to fill the powder. It might not necessarily be the best place to bell the mouth, in that if you found a split case you have to dump the powder and try and salvage the primer. But, that rarely happens…
Haha! Nice recipe! ;) I'm a lot more dirty, and usually just give a good rag wipe of the outside of the case after firing while still on the range. And once in a while (every 5 reloads or so), I scratch the primer hole and the inside of the case with a pair of screwdrivers heads (one big, and one small :) ) But I don't have more than 100 cases of a given caliber usually.
Excellent video and you did a good job explaining it to newbies! I reload a lot of 38 special with unique but it makes me wanna try it with black powder just for fun.
I have really enjoyed all your reloading videos. Thanks for adding this one to the mix. I get all smoky just thinking about reloading black powder .........
Glad ya enjoyed it. They aren’t the easiest ones to edit, but I do enjoy the challenge. I sometimes lack a little motivation to do them though because I know they will be suppressed (and de-monetized) by the powers that be at TH-cam. But, folks need to learn how to do it and I have the platform to deliver the info. So, I’m happy to share. ~Jed 🤠
Oh the steps after shooting black powder. I was using the same cleaning method with the sonic cleaner and tumbler till I dropped my sonic cleaner, and that was that. After I switched the wet pin tumbler, boy am I glad I did. I deprime all cases and set them for a 3 hour clean cycle. I've had found black power cases that were corroded come out almost new. I like it so much I sold my dry tumblers. But I was thinking of buying another sonic cleaner, the one you are using for put barrels and cylinders in after shooting black. Have you tried your for that? If so was it worth the time spent? D.D. Freighter
D.D. - I have been eyeing one of those Wet Pin tumblers... 👍 It’s a plunge I might take one of these days. I like the results I’m seeing online. I did my Percussion Cylinders in my Sonic Cleaner... I’m not sure it was any better than my old cleaning method of just swabbing the cylinder holes with a cotton/fluffy cleaning tip. 🤷♂️ I’d have to try it again to determine if it is any better. ~Jed 🤠
I use a Dillon progressive and I wet tumble with stainless but it was really interesting to see how you do it. I am definitely taking some of your ideas like bagging brass in lots of 100 and the drying in the oven!!! Thanks Pard, I owe you a coffee!!! BTW Love your Vans! LOL
Thanks so much. Glad ya got somethin’ out of it. And, I’m considering one of those wet tumblers... I love my vans too! One of these days I’m gonna film a closer look at that BATVAN (if you’re on Instagram you can find lots of photos of it by searching for 77batvan). ~Jed 🤠
Love your content Jed, thanks! Would you be able to tell us what dies you are using? Most are selling combo seating and crimping does but I would prefer to do those stages separately.
I'll have to try doing black powder one of these days. I've actually loaded 7.62x38R Nagant revolver ammo with Pyrodex. Real black powder it's as available.
I'm curious as to how you handle barrel fouling in the 44-40. If you shot those 38s in a rifle you'd be shooting patterns by the 2nd or third stage. I had to use a soft BP lube plus two thin beeswax discs under the 158gr bullet to prevent barrel fouling when using BP in my rifle (a .357). The Snakebite bullet didn't feed reliably. Also the LEE hand primer I bought from you at the state shoot had a long priming rod. All it needed was a couple hundredths taken off and then the leverage at the final seating was greatly increased. I have 4 others. They all work great. You got a bum one. I could see how you'n not like it. I didn't either at first.
Howdy Hellgate, I don’t have much issue with barrel fouling in my 44/40. I use the desperado bullet and I will occasionally spray my barrel with a little spritz of moisture (water, Ballistol, water/Ballistol mix). If it is hot and dry I do it after every stage. You’ve shot with me enough to know I don’t fuss with it too much. 😊 My main issue with the LEE hand primer is I kept breaking that handle. I’d snap that thing every few thousand primers. Could that have been because the rod was too long and it was creating too much pressure on it? At any rate I like the feel of the RCBS primer better. Especially the way you put the primers into the tray, it’s much larger than that of the LEE so you can just turn the primers over into the tray much easier than with the little round tray on the LEE. Good to hear from you. Hope to see ya out on the trail this spring/summer.
I enjoyed the video and I would love to see the chronograph to know how fast these go. I would humbly suggest expanding the case neck after cleaning and before anything else just to catch any which cracked before wasting a primer and powder.
Hey Jedi enjoyed your video,it's slot of work,have you thought of a Dillion square deal B press it does all of those steps in three pulls of the handle, not criticizing at all it's just a lot quicker for loading,but thanks for the insight,take care
I’ve thought about the Dillon... all of my friends that reload recommend them. But, I started on the LEE before I could afford a “Blue Press”. And, well... I’m a creature of habit 😀 One of these days I’ll make the switch...
Great video as usual, I use a progressive but I think there are a lot of advantages to doing each step independently, I bet it's easer to keep quality control and probably over all takes about the same time. I am just starting to experiment with cap and ball so this black powder thing is still unknown territory to me.
There are some complications to loading Black Powder on a Progressive style press. I have a good friend, one of my BP Mentors, that does it but I haven’t taken the plunge yet. I might eventually though... But, this method has worked so well for me for so long it’s kinda hard to change. I’ll be doing more information on my Percussion Revolver loading, so stay tuned for that. ~Jed 🤠
Thanks for sharing. What do you do when you pick up your brass at the range to prevent corrosion? Thanks for an answer. Greetings from Germany . 308 wadcutter
I just drop it in the plastic jars and bring it straight home for cleaning. If I am at a multi-day shoot I might leave ‘em in some soapy water to soak until I get home. ~Jed 🤠
Hi Jed! Some questions: - what die set are you using (pn? producer?), - why small magnum primes, are they better for BP? - bullet was crimped -taper- or -roll crimp- in that grove? ps: ufff, after long time, uberti competition winchester 1873 in 38spec/357mag landed at my desk, can't wait to shoot it but vacation first :)
1️⃣. LEE Carbide. 2️⃣. That happened to be what I had on hand that day. MAGNUM Primers are not required. 3️⃣. Taper… Whatever the LEE Factory Crimp Die does. Have fun with that ‘73. -Jed 🤠
Thanks Nick. As for primers, Kook saw this video and at the part where I was putting primers in the bag she asked me if I was “flexing my gold” 😆 I could probably make it through this annual season with what I have on hand but I don’t like thinking about what comes after that. I shouldn’t have been caught off guard by this but with the move and getting settled in I just let my supply dip a little lower than I like. ~Jed 🤠
Hey I just wanted to say great video and thanks for teaching how to reload love the video. I was wondering may I ask what revolver you used in the video and what the barrel length is I'm wanting to get one and have the same barrel length I didn't know if that's a 5 inch or a 6 inch 1851 Also gonna get into reloading too I've been wanting to go to cowboy action matches for awhile now
Looks like I’m using my 5.5” barreled 1851’s on this episode. There are plenty of episodes featuring those firearms and lots of photos on Instagram (just search @JediGunfighter if you’re on that platform). instagram.com/jedigunfighter?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
I just got a 1903 smith and wessen hand ejector in .32 S&W. I'd love to be able to do this, but never tried it, and have no equipment. It would be cool though, considering how much it costs.
I love watching all of your videos and wanted to invite you to the best BP shoot of the year. You have one year to make arrangements and come visit Fort White, Florida for three days and 16 stages of smoky fun.
Ultrasonic Cleaner: amzn.to/3uvBZEo As for the Media, I haven’t had any trouble getting that. I can provide you with a link if you’re interested, I’ll just have to go out and check what grit I use. ~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV I run two tumblers one has walnut shells and a homemade roller tumbler that I made back in the early 90’s and that has jeweling in it. I’ve got a order in with Amazon for walnut shells. But it’s been a bear to get stuff for the opening weekend in week a half.
@@JEDiTV one question I've never fired black powder out of a reg. Revolver just out of my 1858 Remington shooting 38s out of a stainless Ruger Blackhawk do you need to take down all the trigger and completely strip it after shooting black powder
Yes, I would suspect that eventually you would. I do it with my Colt clones but not very often (annually). I have found little to no fouling in the hammer or trigger mechanism. I have yet to do a complete tear down on my Vaqueros… though I suppose eventually I should and will.
I'm in the "buy" guns stage of the process. I love black powder, I've been shooting muzzleloaders for well over a decade, so I'm familiar with it. I was looking at the 38-40 or 44-40 as I've heard they generally run a little better with BP, is this truly the case or do 38/357s work well enough?
I use both .38 and 44/40 (plus many others) with Black Powder. Either works just fine. Follow my recipes and you should get an accurate and reliable Black Powder round.
I'm new to this and getting ready to make some purchases. Was thinking about 357, but have heard of cycling issues of 38 sp in a lever action because of length. Has anyone experienced this? Up here in the PNW and am very excited to get started.
When shooting .38 specials in .357 rifles it does require a specific overall length. But, lots (LOTS, as in the majority) of folks use that caliber combination. Head out to your local matches and talk to those that are shootin’ and find out what their recipe is. It’s really easy once you set your loading machine up to the required length. I shoot all over the PNW so keep an eye out for me when you head to the range.
@@JEDiTV Thanks for the info. Looking forward to get in the action and meeting you. I'm in FW so I'm sure to run into you at one of the meets. Keep the great videos coming!
I noticed that you didn't use a basket that comes with the sonic cleaner do you just use plain water or do you use the cleaning chemical that you buy for the cleaner
The 38’s slip through the holes in the wire basket. I use plain water (other than the first step which is a dash of simple green in plain tap water). Hope that answers your questions.
@@JEDiTV thanks that helps me a lot because when I bought my sonic cleaner I bought the chemical stuff that you mix with water, I have a pedersoli sharps and rolling block both in 45-70 and I have numerous handguns in 38 special and 45 colt and I have always wondered if mixing vinegar with water would clean my brass that way I wouldn't have to always buy the expensive chemical so after watching your video I won't have to buy it anymore, thanks again
Just talked to the gunsmith last week and he said “about two more weeks”… so he should ship ‘em back to me real soon. Unfortunately, once they arrive back at my FFL… I have to wait two weeks to get ‘em. Yes, you read that right… I actually have to go through the two week waiting period to get my own freaking revolvers back. Anyways, I’m excited to get ‘em back and try ‘em out and share ‘em with you guys. Soon…
Nice video content Jed, but I have a question, why do you not use the stainless steel pins and a water, dawn soap and lemon juice mix in a tumbler? I have found that 3 to 4 hours of cleaning your way can be reduced to one and a half hours and they come out with primer pockets, inside and outside looking brand new. Am I missing something here? Have a coffee on me.
@@JEDiTV Just one thing I will pass on to you, after about 8 to 10 cleaning cycles, just do a tumble clean on the pins only, no brass. This will clean the pins and bring back the new look to your brass. I'm looking in to reloading primers, hope it works! Have a great day.
lol this is wayyy to much work for me . love this channel btw. i like that you use those richard mason conversions for SASS. i bet a lot of cowboys used them considering the cost compared to an 1873
Do you clean your primer pockets? I always have, spend hours doing it and think I may be wasting time. Then again, every round I ever loaded went bang. Its just one of those things, it works for me, but I keep wondering if I should . I do it by hand and it wears me out doing it.
Trevor, I don’t. I have, in the past. But, personally, I haven’t found that it is necessary. Have you had trouble with primers not seating flush? ~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV I never had a seating issue. I'm probably paranoid. I always clean my primer pockets. It takes me A LOT of time because I do it by hand. After 100 cleaning 100 cases I find less than small scoop of grit (I run Trail Boss). I think I'm probably wasting time. But I can't argue that I never had a dud.
So. Jed, 1.3ccm of black powder is just perfect for .38spec case. If I got it, it will be 'squised gently' under bullet, no wad, no any kind of border between powder and bullet. Right?
Black Powder requires a special Powder Hopper, one that is made with material that doesn’t spark (metal against metal, static from some plastics). I don’t have a set-up like that... I know folks that do and run them very successfully (and much faster). It’s one of those things where I started this way and just kept up on this path. ~Jed 🤠
Great question Dirty Dutch. I’ve been doing this so long that I just assumed everyone would look at that press and know what it was. I use a LEE 4-Hole Turret Press. And all LEE Dies. Thanks for the question. ~Jed 🤠
Howdy from Canada Jedi. Hoping that the lockdowns ease up and that I’ll be able to compete this season. A whole lot of our shoots up here were canceled in 2020, so am cautiously optimistic for 2021. Quick question about the cast bullets you are using. What is their length? Might have to order some up, since getting bullet molds has gotten a little tough.
Howdy John. I’m hoping for more matches (and primers!) in 2021 also. The lead measures and average of .530 in length. But, you can pretty easily adjust that seating depth with the seating die. ~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV thanks Jedi, wanted to know partly out of curiosity and partly for trying to order an appropriate mold. Have the same setup with Richards Mason pistols and an 1866 Winchester, all in 38 special. If it works well for you, I’d like to try it too. Thanks pard 👍🏻😁
Very informative. I plan to shoot this load in my vaqueros however in my rifle want to shoot 357. Any recommendation on grain size of bullet and how much powder?
I don’t shoot a .38 or .357 rifle (mine is 44/40). But, plenty of folks do shoot .38 in their rifles without any problem. In fact, I’m sure the majority of the sport is shootin’ .38 in the rifle.
No problem! I probably wasn’t clear in the video. I’m one of the few that uses a different caliber in revolvers and rifle. Most of my rifles are in 44/40 (an I have a video on how to load that caliber on the channel).
Btw, do you get experience with 'blow back gasses' from cylinder? I mean, case won't expand like 38spec on nitro and sealing is not perfect and some black powder gasses goes back between case and cylinder wall... If yes, there is any fix on that with 38/357 bp ones? I'm not able to move to 44-40... ;)
I’ve heard there a methods to treating the brass to make it expand and seal better. I don’t do it so I can’t advise you on how it is done or if it works. There is some gas (“blow-by”) that escapes between the barrel and the cylinder, especially in the revolvers with open top design. I don’t know of anyway to stop that (other than the Russian Nagant in which the cylinder moves forward against the barrel to create a seal - fascinating revolver really.
I don’t load with Pyrodex so I can not give you an answer to that question. Hopefully someone that does will come along and see your question and give you a definitive answer. -Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV thanks man! I just found your channel a couple weeks ago. Now I own a single action smoke wagon and a Rossi 92 and a 1851 navy. Love the stuff man. Keep it up. I hear pyrodex p is the equivalent to fffg but I’m not sure how it would be in a case. Thank you though.
Hasn’t been a problem (2+ decades in...). The LEE dippers are plastic and folks have been using those for black powder far longer than I’ve been in the reloading game. ~Jed 🤠
I’ve never calculated it exactly. But, I’ve never had it go bad and I’ve had some rounds, like 45/70, sitting around for years and years. I couldn’t give you a definite expiration date on loaded ammo though. I’d guess there are a lot of factors that would change the timeframe too. ~Jed 🤠
@@abrampl - not at all. I’ve got .32 rounds that I loaded years ago for Miss Harley (she doesn’t shoot much anymore). I shot them this year with no problem. ~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV I solver my problem last monday. I had 55 rounds 12ga created on FFFG black powder. So ;) we just shot them all. Problem solved. ps: my plastic wads must be replaced by something natural. You showed on one movie 'plastic snakes' ;)
Slack Chain Eddy - I reload 38Spl for a Ruger LCR (38Spl), a Cimarron Uberti Colt SAA Replica (357Mag/38Spl) and a Henry Big Boy Rifle (357Mag/38Spl) following Hornady recipes for 110 gr XTP, 125 gr XTP and 158 gr LRN using smokeless powders (Power Pistol, Win 231 or Universal). The Hornady recipe specifies Small Pistol Primers for these reloads. Likewise, the Lyman Handbook calls for using Small Pistol Primers for 38Spl casings. Your video explicitly shows Small Magnum Pistol Primers being shoved into your 100 count bag of 38Spl cases. Is this substitution of primer types applicable for black powder use or am I missing something? Do the primers holes have to be reamed to fit small magnum pistol primers or is it a direct fit? I love all the Jed I TV videos; keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback Slack Chain Eddy. Small Pistol Primers and Magnum Small Pistol Primers are completely interchangeable, size wise. As for Black Powder, either type will work. This video showed Magnum simply because that’s what I had in hand. But, again, either type will work (and in today’s world I’d take whatever the heck I could find on the shelf). Great question thanks for pointing it out. ~Jed 🤠
Actually I’ve been looking for some 45’s to work up a load on. Do you have leather for ‘em? I don’t think I have anything that will fit a Remington. ~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV they fit pretty good in what I got, but my double strong set isnt quite right for them. It works but not ideal. Are you going to true grit in Redmond?
Not sure on True Grit yet. It’s on my calendar. But... primers are a real issue right now. And, if things don’t change soon, I’m going to have to really limit the number of annuals I attend this year. I’ve got more Large Pistol Primers than I do small that’s why I’d be interested in playing with those Remingtons.
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No one can accuse you of using "fluffy bunny" loads in your six guns, Jed. As 1.3 cc works out to around 20-21 grains of powder. A fairly stout load, by any metric.
Yeah, I’ve never been accused of that 😊 Even when I shoot Miss Harley’s 32’s they buck, roar and spit fire.
~Jed 🤠
I could watch this all day
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I load my own black powder cartridges for my 1861 Navy and 1851 Navy Pietta revolvers with Howell conversion cylinders and I load black powder 45 Colt cartridges for my Uberti 3rd model Dragoon and my Pietta Remington new model Army with Taylors conversion cylinder.
Great video, thank you .
You’re welcome. Thanks for the comment!
Excellent video. I use a 158 grain bullet for my Frontier Cartridge ammo. It takes up more room in the case than my usual 105s. Also my fixed sight revolvers shoot to point of aim with the heavier bullet. I need all the help I can get when shooting FC Gunfighter!
Thanks Abe E.S. Corpus. I was using 158 grains for years... but, I get a little more controllable load (faster follow up shots) with the 125. Not a lot, but enough that I can feel the difference.
~Jed 🤠
Thanks for the video, i ordered a sample today so i can try them in my 51 navy conversion
Thanks for letting me know. And please follow up and let me know how they worked out for you.
So glad I found this video. Just getting back into the SASS life after a 25yr break. All I have left is my long range side match rifles. And they only shoot real black, not going to risk original Trapdoor rifle or Winchester Centennial .45/60 rifle.
Still shopping for main match guns. Only suitable shotgun right now is 113 years old. Might be time for a newer model… Going to stick with .38/.357 for suppository slingers… Trying to transition back from c&b only, haven’t shot a cartridge single action in years, other than pest control. Had forgotten how tiny SAA grip frames actually are…
Thanks for the tutorial, week 1 of recovery since kidney removal, been binge watching anything cowboy shooting related. See you at EoT in a couple years…
Welcome back! I’ve got plenty out here for ya to binge watch. Look forward to meetin’ you.
-Jed 🤠
Great video Jed! Made me realize how similar (should be since you learnt me) yet barbaric my system is lol. Sometimes I soak overnight if I my brass has sat dirty for a wile. My sonic cleaner is a plastic jug with brass, dawn dish soap, water and me shaking the piss out of it for 5 - 10 min (yay cardio!). Then I dry it overnight. I started out with the full Jed reloading method as shown but have changed it some. I’ve been doing all the steps on my turret press. Deprime, prime, hand scoop 1.3 cc powder into the powder stage of the press, set bullet, crimp, wipe bullet clean, admire my bullet making prowess, add to box, repeat 😁. I occasionally add the “clean up powder mess after you pour powder in funnel before rotating the case to the powder stage” step 🤪
I’ll also add... rinsing brass in the kitchen sink has a slight chance of lead contamination and a moderate chance of bridal ire 😬.
Thanks Croc! I was really looking forward to your feedback on this episode. Since you and I have talked about this process so much I wanted to make sure that I captured what I shared with you in a video format.
As for cleaning in the sink, I use the utility sink in the laundry room (used to have a utility sink in the reloading room of the old place) and a pan that is dedicated for the purpose of brass drying only (not one from the kitchen... for fear of that “ire” 😉).
Thanks for the feedback my friend!
~Jed 🤠
I do a ton of loading, but it's still interesting to watch everyone's methods.
Thanks Zazkaria.
We totally agree with the Lee hand primer. We like Lee equipment also. We use Lyman and Lee. Gust was just saying his Lyman Orange crusher is starting show it’s age.
Yep, I’m pretty much all LEE equipment. ‘Cept for that hand primer 😝
So excited to try out this load data when I get home next winter! Love the videos!!!
Thanks Shane! Let me know how it works out for you.
~Jed 🤠
Nice video thanks, simple and to the point. So many out there are awful. Your presentation is excellent.
Thank you! I appreciate your comment.
-Jed
this was the video I have been looking for for a WEEK! I guess I was just looking too early.
Well, it’s a video I’ve been promising for years so... maybe I was late 😉 These are kinda hard to put together since I film ‘em over time and then piece it all together at the end. Honestly, this is the 2nd, if not 3rd, time I’ve shot this process. I just wasn’t happy with the way it came out before. But this one worked out pretty well. I probably could have trimmed up the cleaning segment a bit... but 🤷♂️ I added timestamps in the description so folks can skip around.
Anyways, hope it was worth the wait for ya!
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV totally get it! I make some videos for training at work. I've done a couple that were 9 hours of editing for a 10 minute show. Pain in the kiester, but worth the effort I think. (mostly 'cuz you only have do it ONCE instead of half a dozen presentations!)
Absolutely! I’d rather do this than try and explain it to everyone that asks for my formula 😊 and, an hour of editing per minute of video is about average. 👍
thank you for this video, it is really appreciated, hope to see a 45LC one in the future, no one in my area that i have met has any info on black powder reload data. found a data sheet on hodgdon powder website and your videos are very helpful and just in time for shooting season my local sass club is planning for end of april for first shoot of the year.
I load .45 colt with black powder just use 35-40 grains of 2f gunpowder. 1.5F is ok too it was all I could get for a while and it worked well. Just don't use 4f.
I do it exactly the same way. But we shoot 44WCF. I deprime first on Lee APP press. Then wet tumble in Frankford Arsenal tumbler with Simple Green and Lemi-Shine. Dry in sun. Mary primes with RCBS priming tool with the shell holder. When we get critically low, I load on Dillon 550d using Unique Missouri Bullet Company Hi-tech coated for Mary's loads, BlackMZ and bullets I cast myself and use no lube for my loads. Otherwise, just the same.
Great info Bibbyman2, thanks. I shoot 44/40 in my rifles, you might have already seen my method for that:
th-cam.com/video/OS9NpvRQXs8/w-d-xo.html
~Jed 🤠
Great info now I can try black in my .38 Spl and .357. Do you know what Lee scoop I can use for a .38 Long Colt ctg. and some150gn Western Bullet Mould co. conicals? I might want to try some black in an old Colt DA 38 "New" Army model of 1892. Then I can chrage up San Juan Hill and hope I don't get nailed by a 7x57 Spanih Mauser(wish me a lot of luck with that one!). Only in my mind's eye of course!
I’ve never loaded for the .38 Long Colt. Should be plenty of data out there though.
That Turret Press has served me well. I often think about upgrading/updating but that’d require a whole new learning curve 😉
Hi.Enjoyed the video, but I have a question, why do you bell the case mouth after charging the case? Thanks.
It’s just a habit that I got into because of the process I use - because I put ‘em all out in the trays after priming in order to fill the powder. It might not necessarily be the best place to bell the mouth, in that if you found a split case you have to dump the powder and try and salvage the primer. But, that rarely happens…
Haha! Nice recipe! ;) I'm a lot more dirty, and usually just give a good rag wipe of the outside of the case after firing while still on the range. And once in a while (every 5 reloads or so), I scratch the primer hole and the inside of the case with a pair of screwdrivers heads (one big, and one small :) ) But I don't have more than 100 cases of a given caliber usually.
😆 Yeah... I feel like a spent a lot of time detailing how I clean the cases... More of my OCD showin’ 😉
~Jed 🤠
Excellent video and you did a good job explaining it to newbies! I reload a lot of 38 special with unique but it makes me wanna try it with black powder just for fun.
Thank you! I appreciate that comment a lot.
-Jed
I have really enjoyed all your reloading videos. Thanks for adding this one to the mix. I get all smoky just thinking about reloading black powder .........
Glad ya enjoyed it. They aren’t the easiest ones to edit, but I do enjoy the challenge. I sometimes lack a little motivation to do them though because I know they will be suppressed (and de-monetized) by the powers that be at TH-cam.
But, folks need to learn how to do it and I have the platform to deliver the info. So, I’m happy to share.
~Jed 🤠
Thank you for sharing. Much appreciated.
You’re welcome Mark! Thanks for the feedback.
~Jed 🤠
Oh the steps after shooting black powder. I was using the same cleaning method with the sonic cleaner and tumbler till I dropped my sonic cleaner, and that was that. After I switched the wet pin tumbler, boy am I glad I did. I deprime all cases and set them for a 3 hour clean cycle. I've had found black power cases that were corroded come out almost new. I like it so much I sold my dry tumblers.
But I was thinking of buying another sonic cleaner, the one you are using for put barrels and cylinders in after shooting black. Have you tried your for that? If so was it worth the time spent?
D.D. Freighter
D.D. - I have been eyeing one of those Wet Pin tumblers... 👍 It’s a plunge I might take one of these days. I like the results I’m seeing online.
I did my Percussion Cylinders in my Sonic Cleaner... I’m not sure it was any better than my old cleaning method of just swabbing the cylinder holes with a cotton/fluffy cleaning tip. 🤷♂️ I’d have to try it again to determine if it is any better.
~Jed 🤠
Thanks for the video
You’re welcome.
-Jed 🤠
I use a Dillon progressive and I wet tumble with stainless but it was really interesting to see how you do it. I am definitely taking some of your ideas like bagging brass in lots of 100 and the drying in the oven!!! Thanks Pard, I owe you a coffee!!! BTW Love your Vans! LOL
Thanks so much. Glad ya got somethin’ out of it. And, I’m considering one of those wet tumblers...
I love my vans too! One of these days I’m gonna film a closer look at that BATVAN (if you’re on Instagram you can find lots of photos of it by searching for 77batvan).
~Jed 🤠
Love your content Jed, thanks! Would you be able to tell us what dies you are using? Most are selling combo seating and crimping does but I would prefer to do those stages separately.
Glad you’re enjoying the content. The die brand I use is LEE.
Very cool
Thanks!
I'll have to try doing black powder one of these days. I've actually loaded 7.62x38R Nagant revolver ammo with Pyrodex. Real black powder it's as available.
🤔 Never loaded my Nagants with BP...
~Jed 🤠
About the only thing I do differently is hand de-prime before I clean the brass, just to help get the primer pocket cleaned out. Good video Jed!
Thanks for the feedback. I like to hear how others do steps a little differently.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV the only real downside is having to dig corn cob out of your flash hole!
Nicely done, Jed. I prime while watching tv, too! Wonder if we should watch Amazon Prime when we prime cases. Would be sorta fitting...
And I do sometimes watch Prime while Priming... hadn’t thought about how punny that actually is.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV It's not your job to think of bad jokes...you're too classy. Leave it to me. LOL!!!
Hi Jed! Let´s load that smoker !! Good stuff! Take care and thanks.
Thanks Marco! Always nice to hear from you.
~Jed 🤠
I'm curious as to how you handle barrel fouling in the 44-40. If you shot those 38s in a rifle you'd be shooting patterns by the 2nd or third stage. I had to use a soft BP lube plus two thin beeswax discs under the 158gr bullet to prevent barrel fouling when using BP in my rifle (a .357). The Snakebite bullet didn't feed reliably.
Also the LEE hand primer I bought from you at the state shoot had a long priming rod. All it needed was a couple hundredths taken off and then the leverage at the final seating was greatly increased. I have 4 others. They all work great. You got a bum one. I could see how you'n not like it. I didn't either at first.
Howdy Hellgate, I don’t have much issue with barrel fouling in my 44/40. I use the desperado bullet and I will occasionally spray my barrel with a little spritz of moisture (water, Ballistol, water/Ballistol mix). If it is hot and dry I do it after every stage. You’ve shot with me enough to know I don’t fuss with it too much. 😊
My main issue with the LEE hand primer is I kept breaking that handle. I’d snap that thing every few thousand primers. Could that have been because the rod was too long and it was creating too much pressure on it? At any rate I like the feel of the RCBS primer better. Especially the way you put the primers into the tray, it’s much larger than that of the LEE so you can just turn the primers over into the tray much easier than with the little round tray on the LEE.
Good to hear from you. Hope to see ya out on the trail this spring/summer.
Great stuff mate
Thank you Dean.
~Jed 🤠
awesome content
Thank you! I really appreciate that. -Jed
I enjoyed the video and I would love to see the chronograph to know how fast these go. I would humbly suggest expanding the case neck after cleaning and before anything else just to catch any which cracked before wasting a primer and powder.
Great suggestion, and I just responded to a similar comment. It’s just the way that it flows in my process…
Hey Jedi enjoyed your video,it's slot of work,have you thought of a Dillion square deal B press it does all of those steps in three pulls of the handle, not criticizing at all it's just a lot quicker for loading,but thanks for the insight,take care
I’ve thought about the Dillon... all of my friends that reload recommend them. But, I started on the LEE before I could afford a “Blue Press”. And, well... I’m a creature of habit 😀
One of these days I’ll make the switch...
Great information!👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Thanks for the feedback!
~Jed 🤠
I must recomend frankford arsenal wet tumbler. mutch easier an its getting realy shiny
I’ve been researching that. Certainly seems like a great product.
~Jed 🤠
Great video as usual, I use a progressive but I think there are a lot of advantages to doing each step independently, I bet it's easer to keep quality control and probably over all takes about the same time. I am just starting to experiment with cap and ball so this black powder thing is still unknown territory to me.
There are some complications to loading Black Powder on a Progressive style press. I have a good friend, one of my BP Mentors, that does it but I haven’t taken the plunge yet. I might eventually though... But, this method has worked so well for me for so long it’s kinda hard to change.
I’ll be doing more information on my Percussion Revolver loading, so stay tuned for that.
~Jed 🤠
Thanks for sharing. What do you do when you pick up your brass at the range to prevent corrosion?
Thanks for an answer.
Greetings from Germany
. 308 wadcutter
I just drop it in the plastic jars and bring it straight home for cleaning. If I am at a multi-day shoot I might leave ‘em in some soapy water to soak until I get home.
~Jed 🤠
Hi Jed!
Some questions:
- what die set are you using (pn? producer?),
- why small magnum primes, are they better for BP?
- bullet was crimped -taper- or -roll crimp- in that grove?
ps: ufff, after long time, uberti competition winchester 1873 in 38spec/357mag landed at my desk, can't wait to shoot it but vacation first :)
1️⃣. LEE Carbide.
2️⃣. That happened to be what I had on hand that day. MAGNUM Primers are not required.
3️⃣. Taper… Whatever the LEE Factory Crimp Die does.
Have fun with that ‘73.
-Jed 🤠
Thanks Jed, always enjoy how other shooters do their loading.
How are you doing with the current primer disaster !
Thanks Nick.
As for primers, Kook saw this video and at the part where I was putting primers in the bag she asked me if I was “flexing my gold” 😆 I could probably make it through this annual season with what I have on hand but I don’t like thinking about what comes after that. I shouldn’t have been caught off guard by this but with the move and getting settled in I just let my supply dip a little lower than I like.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV It's so sad we even half to think about it !!
Hey I just wanted to say great video and thanks for teaching how to reload love the video.
I was wondering may I ask what revolver you used in the video and what the barrel length is
I'm wanting to get one and have the same barrel length I didn't know if that's a 5 inch or a 6 inch 1851
Also gonna get into reloading too I've been wanting to go to cowboy action matches for awhile now
Looks like I’m using my 5.5” barreled 1851’s on this episode. There are plenty of episodes featuring those firearms and lots of photos on Instagram (just search @JediGunfighter if you’re on that platform).
instagram.com/jedigunfighter?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
Thank you so much sir!! I love your videos been watching them for years me and my papaw always loved cowboy action shooting thanks for letting me know
I just got a 1903 smith and wessen hand ejector in .32 S&W. I'd love to be able to do this, but never tried it, and have no equipment. It would be cool though, considering how much it costs.
It is an expensive sport to get into (but, most hobbies are when you’re first starting out).
-Jed
I use to use Lee primer but I only had a couple things I didn't like, 1 you had to buy special shellholders for it, and 2 it is so small for my hands
I switched over the the RCBS Hand Primer for much of the same reasons (and that die-cast handle on the LEE kept breaking).
I love watching all of your videos and wanted to invite you to the best BP shoot of the year. You have one year to make arrangements and come visit Fort White, Florida for three days and 16 stages of smoky fun.
One of these days I’ll get that far! Thanks for the comment and invitation!
~Jed 🤠
Pyrodex works also, I've done it for .45s and .410.
Yep, lots of folks use Pyrodex because it’s easier to access.
-Jed
Ultrasonic cleaner you have what size is that. Also with this pandemic it’s hard to find tumbler media.
Ultrasonic Cleaner: amzn.to/3uvBZEo
As for the Media, I haven’t had any trouble getting that. I can provide you with a link if you’re interested, I’ll just have to go out and check what grit I use.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV I run two tumblers one has walnut shells and a homemade roller tumbler that I made back in the early 90’s and that has jeweling in it. I’ve got a order in with Amazon for walnut shells. But it’s been a bear to get stuff for the opening weekend in week a half.
What is the OAL using their crimp groove? Thanks
1.550”
I am just starting my cowboy loading! I love your channel can you tell me what your 45acp load is please?
Yes, I am working on an episode covering that.
-Jed 🤠
Love all your videos only bad thing is now I have to go load some Black powder 38 ammo man you keep me busy lol 😂😂
I’ve been accused of worse 😜
Have fun!
@@JEDiTV lol thanks
@@JEDiTV one question I've never fired black powder out of a reg. Revolver just out of my 1858 Remington shooting 38s out of a stainless Ruger Blackhawk do you need to take down all the trigger and completely strip it after shooting black powder
Yes, I would suspect that eventually you would. I do it with my Colt clones but not very often (annually). I have found little to no fouling in the hammer or trigger mechanism.
I have yet to do a complete tear down on my Vaqueros… though I suppose eventually I should and will.
@@JEDiTV great really appreciate it 👍
I am not in the right tax bracket for cowboy action shooting, but damn it looks fun! I'll stick to flintlock stuff for the time being.
I understand. 🤠
Do you know if these will work in the Howell conversion cylinder?
The regular cap and ball version will. These come already converted from Uberti.
I'm in the "buy" guns stage of the process. I love black powder, I've been shooting muzzleloaders for well over a decade, so I'm familiar with it. I was looking at the 38-40 or 44-40 as I've heard they generally run a little better with BP, is this truly the case or do 38/357s work well enough?
I use both .38 and 44/40 (plus many others) with Black Powder. Either works just fine. Follow my recipes and you should get an accurate and reliable Black Powder round.
I'm new to this and getting ready to make some purchases. Was thinking about 357, but have heard of cycling issues of 38 sp in a lever action because of length. Has anyone experienced this? Up here in the PNW and am very excited to get started.
When shooting .38 specials in .357 rifles it does require a specific overall length. But, lots (LOTS, as in the majority) of folks use that caliber combination. Head out to your local matches and talk to those that are shootin’ and find out what their recipe is. It’s really easy once you set your loading machine up to the required length.
I shoot all over the PNW so keep an eye out for me when you head to the range.
@@JEDiTV Thanks for the info. Looking forward to get in the action and meeting you. I'm in FW so I'm sure to run into you at one of the meets. Keep the great videos coming!
I noticed that you didn't use a basket that comes with the sonic cleaner do you just use plain water or do you use the cleaning chemical that you buy for the cleaner
The 38’s slip through the holes in the wire basket. I use plain water (other than the first step which is a dash of simple green in plain tap water). Hope that answers your questions.
@@JEDiTV thanks that helps me a lot because when I bought my sonic cleaner I bought the chemical stuff that you mix with water, I have a pedersoli sharps and rolling block both in 45-70 and I have numerous handguns in 38 special and 45 colt and I have always wondered if mixing vinegar with water would clean my brass that way I wouldn't have to always buy the expensive chemical so after watching your video I won't have to buy it anymore, thanks again
Do you have story about broken open tops and how they were fixed?
Still working on that. When they are fixed I’ll get an episode up.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV thanks for response! Have nice day!
You’re welcome.
@@JEDiTV and?
Just talked to the gunsmith last week and he said “about two more weeks”… so he should ship ‘em back to me real soon. Unfortunately, once they arrive back at my FFL… I have to wait two weeks to get ‘em. Yes, you read that right… I actually have to go through the two week waiting period to get my own freaking revolvers back.
Anyways, I’m excited to get ‘em back and try ‘em out and share ‘em with you guys. Soon…
Nice video content Jed, but I have a question, why do you not use the stainless steel pins and a water, dawn soap and lemon juice mix in a tumbler? I have found that 3 to 4 hours of cleaning your way can be reduced to one and a half hours and they come out with primer pockets, inside and outside looking brand new. Am I missing something here? Have a coffee on me.
Thanks Allen, ‘preciate the coffee. And, I am currently investigating the stainless pin cleaners.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV Just one thing I will pass on to you, after about 8 to 10 cleaning cycles, just do a tumble clean on the pins only, no brass. This will clean the pins and bring back the new look to your brass. I'm looking in to reloading primers, hope it works! Have a great day.
Thanks @@allensooter8429
lol this is wayyy to much work for me . love this channel btw. i like that you use those richard mason conversions for SASS. i bet a lot of cowboys used them considering the cost compared to an 1873
It is a lot of work… but, I love shootin’ Black Powder out of those ‘51’s….
Thanks for the comment!
How Many Grains(BP) are in 1.3cc? What Can I Compare it to?
About 20.7 grains of 3F Black Powder in a 1.3cc scoop.
@@JEDiTV Thank Ye Kindly!
Do you clean your primer pockets? I always have, spend hours doing it and think I may be wasting time. Then again, every round I ever loaded went bang. Its just one of those things, it works for me, but I keep wondering if I should . I do it by hand and it wears me out doing it.
Trevor, I don’t. I have, in the past. But, personally, I haven’t found that it is necessary. Have you had trouble with primers not seating flush?
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV I never had a seating issue. I'm probably paranoid. I always clean my primer pockets. It takes me A LOT of time because I do it by hand. After 100 cleaning 100 cases I find less than small scoop of grit (I run Trail Boss). I think I'm probably wasting time. But I can't argue that I never had a dud.
I get what you’re saying. Sometimes we get into routines and just continue that way because it is working for us. I’m guilty of it too.
🤠 👍
So. Jed, 1.3ccm of black powder is just perfect for .38spec case. If I got it, it will be 'squised gently' under bullet, no wad, no any kind of border between powder and bullet. Right?
Yes indeed. Five easy steps. You can find links to each one in the description box of this video and skip right to that section.
~Jed 🤠
Waddings can help the accuracy especially with lead bullets but if you shooting them out of a pistol I doubt it will make a significant difference.
Why not use the turret press to its full potential be load powder on the press?
Black Powder requires a special Powder Hopper, one that is made with material that doesn’t spark (metal against metal, static from some plastics). I don’t have a set-up like that... I know folks that do and run them very successfully (and much faster). It’s one of those things where I started this way and just kept up on this path.
~Jed 🤠
May I ask what press do you use?
Great question Dirty Dutch. I’ve been doing this so long that I just assumed everyone would look at that press and know what it was. I use a LEE 4-Hole Turret Press. And all LEE Dies.
Thanks for the question.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV thank you for taking the time to answer my question. Keep up the amazing work you do.
Pardon my ignorance Sir, I’m new.. is it OK to make cowboy loads from Pyro dex and other substitutes?
Yes, absolutely.
Anyone know how many ccs for 357 mag with 125 gr bullet?
I haven’t loaded .357 with Black Powder…. You might try posting over on a forum like The SASS Wire someone there may have the data. Good luck.
-Jed
1.5ccm maybe 1.6ccm max.
I tested 1.5ccm and 1mm carton wad. But better is 1ccm, 6mm height wad under 125gr bullet.
Howdy from Canada Jedi. Hoping that the lockdowns ease up and that I’ll be able to compete this season. A whole lot of our shoots up here were canceled in 2020, so am cautiously optimistic for 2021.
Quick question about the cast bullets you are using. What is their length? Might have to order some up, since getting bullet molds has gotten a little tough.
Howdy John. I’m hoping for more matches (and primers!) in 2021 also. The lead measures and average of .530 in length. But, you can pretty easily adjust that seating depth with the seating die.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV thanks Jedi, wanted to know partly out of curiosity and partly for trying to order an appropriate mold. Have the same setup with Richards Mason pistols and an 1866 Winchester, all in 38 special. If it works well for you, I’d like to try it too. Thanks pard 👍🏻😁
Very informative. I plan to shoot this load in my vaqueros however in my rifle want to shoot 357. Any recommendation on grain size of bullet and how much powder?
Glad you enjoyed the episode. As for .357, I don’t load for that caliber so I can’t speak about a good load for it.
@@JEDiTV you don’t have any issue with cycling in your rifle? What is your OAL if you don’t mind me asking. Appreciate you and your channel!
I don’t shoot a .38 or .357 rifle (mine is 44/40). But, plenty of folks do shoot .38 in their rifles without any problem. In fact, I’m sure the majority of the sport is shootin’ .38 in the rifle.
@@JEDiTV oh my mistake I thought you used both. Which caliber do you use for rifle if you don’t mind me asking?
No problem! I probably wasn’t clear in the video. I’m one of the few that uses a different caliber in revolvers and rifle. Most of my rifles are in 44/40 (an I have a video on how to load that caliber on the channel).
Btw, do you get experience with 'blow back gasses' from cylinder? I mean, case won't expand like 38spec on nitro and sealing is not perfect and some black powder gasses goes back between case and cylinder wall...
If yes, there is any fix on that with 38/357 bp ones?
I'm not able to move to 44-40... ;)
I’ve heard there a methods to treating the brass to make it expand and seal better. I don’t do it so I can’t advise you on how it is done or if it works. There is some gas (“blow-by”) that escapes between the barrel and the cylinder, especially in the revolvers with open top design. I don’t know of anyway to stop that (other than the Russian Nagant in which the cylinder moves forward against the barrel to create a seal - fascinating revolver really.
Which model press is that?
Lee Turret
leeprecision.com/4-hole-classic-turret-press
Hey Jed, forgot to ask if you have thought of going over to
"The Reloaders Network" to show your videos ?
No. But, I’ll look into it. Thanks!
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV You don't ever have to worry how much you show.
The channel is run by Americans !!
Are those #200 or #100 primers?
100 or 200 works just fine. I can’t tell a difference between them other than the number on the box.
@@JEDiTV ok thank you very much btw I love your videos
Could you do this with pyrodex p?
I don’t load with Pyrodex so I can not give you an answer to that question. Hopefully someone that does will come along and see your question and give you a definitive answer.
-Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV thanks man! I just found your channel a couple weeks ago. Now I own a single action smoke wagon and a Rossi 92 and a 1851 navy. Love the stuff man. Keep it up. I hear pyrodex p is the equivalent to fffg but I’m not sure how it would be in a case. Thank you though.
Plastic Loading trays w black powder? You don't worry about static?
Hasn’t been a problem (2+ decades in...). The LEE dippers are plastic and folks have been using those for black powder far longer than I’ve been in the reloading game.
~Jed 🤠
One thing, how long .38spec or 12GA with BP (not substitute) can be stored?
I’ve never calculated it exactly. But, I’ve never had it go bad and I’ve had some rounds, like 45/70, sitting around for years and years.
I couldn’t give you a definite expiration date on loaded ammo though. I’d guess there are a lot of factors that would change the timeframe too.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV So 3-6 months is not an issue with them.
@@abrampl - not at all. I’ve got .32 rounds that I loaded years ago for Miss Harley (she doesn’t shoot much anymore). I shot them this year with no problem.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV I solver my problem last monday. I had 55 rounds 12ga created on FFFG black powder. So ;) we just shot them all. Problem solved. ps: my plastic wads must be replaced by something natural. You showed on one movie 'plastic snakes' ;)
That’s a good way to handle it@@abrampl 🤠
Slack Chain Eddy - I reload 38Spl for a Ruger LCR (38Spl), a Cimarron Uberti Colt SAA Replica (357Mag/38Spl) and a Henry Big Boy Rifle (357Mag/38Spl) following Hornady recipes for 110 gr XTP, 125 gr XTP and 158 gr LRN using smokeless powders (Power Pistol, Win 231 or Universal). The Hornady recipe specifies Small Pistol Primers for these reloads. Likewise, the Lyman Handbook calls for using Small Pistol Primers for 38Spl casings. Your video explicitly shows Small Magnum Pistol Primers being shoved into your 100 count bag of 38Spl cases. Is this substitution of primer types applicable for black powder use or am I missing something? Do the primers holes have to be reamed to fit small magnum pistol primers or is it a direct fit? I love all the Jed I TV videos; keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback Slack Chain Eddy. Small Pistol Primers and Magnum Small Pistol Primers are completely interchangeable, size wise. As for Black Powder, either type will work. This video showed Magnum simply because that’s what I had in hand. But, again, either type will work (and in today’s world I’d take whatever the heck I could find on the shelf).
Great question thanks for pointing it out.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV Thanks for the quick answer. Very much appreciated.
You need to load up some 45 Colt black and come down to Albany and shoot my 58' conversions for a match. You could make them famous for me
Actually I’ve been looking for some 45’s to work up a load on. Do you have leather for ‘em? I don’t think I have anything that will fit a Remington.
~Jed 🤠
@@JEDiTV they fit pretty good in what I got, but my double strong set isnt quite right for them. It works but not ideal. Are you going to true grit in Redmond?
Not sure on True Grit yet. It’s on my calendar. But... primers are a real issue right now. And, if things don’t change soon, I’m going to have to really limit the number of annuals I attend this year.
I’ve got more Large Pistol Primers than I do small that’s why I’d be interested in playing with those Remingtons.
Gonna load 38 special and 45 Colt, but I have 2f
2F is what I’d use in the 45. And, it’ll work in the 38 but it wouldn’t necessarily be my first choice.
@@JEDiTV Thanks. I'll get some FFF for the 38 then.
Is this what you shoot through your 1851’s?
Yes indeed!
~Jed 🤠
weighing each powder charge on a scale would take me a week to load 500 rounds. lol
Yeah, that wouldn’t be practical at all.