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I have both a 2018 model X and 2022 model Y. A lot of what you say I agree, although the X is better for ride comfort with air suspension, and I have never had any problem with the falcon doors. Against the X the heating/ac is far better on model Y - I very much notice that these cold winter nights. The free supercharging is huge benefit if you travel long distances, although very difficult to get used one with that included (I have had my X from new). On my 2018 I get up to 150kw/h supercharging and that is more usual for an X. However the Y is a great car, and I enjoy driving either. The X is more of a special car, while the Y is a safer buy.
@@theticoboy the rear seats on 7 seater model Y are only suitable for small kids, so if you are keeping the car for the long run, then the X would be better
My 2023 Tesla X is outstanding in everyway. Charges extremely fast, falcon doors are functional and work flawlessly. The ride on air suspension is far superior to the Y when it comes to comfort. The adjustable 17" screen is amazing and fast. On the the road, even at high speeds it's quiet with it's double insulated windows seals and double pane glass. Not quite sure where all this negativity is coming from, particularly since I have had such a positive experience with the model X.
Great video, Myck. I lusted for a used MX, but really glad I got a MY. I really hope the MY doesn’t present any big maintenance issues after the warranty expires. But, by then I will be almost 80 so it might not matter! So glad I finally got my Tesla, I am enjoying it on so many levels.
I’m in the same headspace. I test drove a Y today, going to test drive a X tomorrow. I’m leaning towards the X, but listening to the logic in your video. The wings on the X are part of the deal, additionally it’s the cargo space. If I were to get a used X it would be a 2019//2020. On the opposite side the Y would be brand new.
The new Y long range is a fantastic deal right now, with almost a $13,000 recent price drop, and if you qualify for the new $7500 tax credit, it's an even better deal.
Winter 2023 in my 2019 Model X. Great video, it’s nice to hear peoples experience. I purchased my X used in 2022 it’s been a year. I love it! No issues. I’m a cruiser no kids, I came from a 2020 5 series BMW I could not step into a minimalist interior. I had to have a more luxury car. Wanted the MS but, had been longing for an SUV to hall my camera gear around. The 7 seater with seats folded down was key in most room offered. I needed the instrument cluster, and I needed a more normal front end. The model Y and 3 front end don’t do it for me. I’m about looks, and luxury. Yes we have a market for that. In my opinion the model X and S are more luxury. I don’t mind giving up miles, as I just commute around town and I have plenty for that. I’m not traveling cross country everyday. The smarter decision would have been new y if I wanted more efficiency, and warranty. I chose to spoil my self and not give up on what I found more appealing. I’m not regretting it at all. Yes, the falcon doors are embarrassing at times, but at the same time makes you feel like you have the ultimate exotic ride on the block especially with the 22’S on it. :)
I have a 2019 MX raven and have never had any problems with the falcon doors. I have about 70k miles on it. I did have the main battery replaced but that was covered under warranty.
You did do this in 2022 when prices were higher but you also had an older x which had mcu1, was pre raven (no pm motor in front so no regen to hold) and no adaptive suspension. In sept 2023 we got a 2020 performance 7 seater model x for 60k with only 50k miles. We have heated everything, raven upgrade, mcu2 etc. Tinted rear windows and hatch glass which factory I think. Range on that is stated original 305 miles and charging is now up to 200 kw. It also came of course with full self driving computer 3.0 and included basic autopilot like all cars in 2020. They also improved the sensors and added some in the doors. The falcon wings were more of an issue in the older xs but not as much in the newer ones. I realized if buying a used s or x, never buy a pre raven. (pre sept 2019) (then you also get mcu2) We have had no issues yet other than a rock etc chipping and cracking the windshield which was replaced. The falcon wing doors are great, work great and are very functional. They can open and close before reaching vehicle and after leaving. Like how I install a powered frunk as well which I use all the time and also installed in our 2018 model 3. We have a lr dual motor 3 and do not see handling issues and lack of fun when driving the X. Sorry. The only minor things I miss in the x vs 3 or y, is no phone as a key, keycard as backup, and doing other light shows. Not a big deal. Handles amazing, almost no body roll, more comfortable ride, quieter, smoother, more room, an an actually usable 3rd row. Model Y 3rd row is barely usable and only for small children or very short adults.
I have a used model x 2019 long range, own it for 2 years now and never had issues with falcon door. I guess I can say I’m lucky :) I love the car so far 😊
You read my mind!!! I am trying to determine which vehicle to purchase myself. I love both but really like the X as it’s a bit more room inside as I am a tall guy. Thanks for the great video
Have 23 MY but am considering 2019MX for a price difference of like 17-19k. Hard to find people weighing the option of brand new y vs older x so this was interesting. Thanks. The thing I want most from the x weirdly enough is the glass. That front windshield is something else in the x
debating same thing - new Y vs. used X. I would spend an extra $20k for a 2019 or 2020 Raven X with 351 mile range. Don't like the falcon wing doors, but the ride seemed so much better on the air suspension. you seemed to bounce around quite a bit on your video. I may just wait 18 months or so hoping for air suspension for the Y.
Thanks for video. I'm contemplating on purchasing a 2020 Model X over a 2023 Model Y. I hope that the 2020 Model X doesn't have the same issues that the 2016 Model X does.
Model Y makes even more sense now with the price cuts. A performance can be had for $55k. More if you qualify for the tax rebate ($7500 fed) and state rebates.
I am not sure it is a good thing for your 2016 used MX when you mentioned it got extended factory warranty AND you used it quite often during your ownership. Having extended factory warranty is nice but NOT having to use it because the car does not need any repairs is even better.
I wanted to be as transparent as possible and the fact it was in the shop a lot was a negative part of ownership. Any potential older Model X owner needs to know this information.
Great video, thank you. Quick question, by purchasing the Model X, I can write it all off for my taxes since I have my own business. Would you purchase the used Model X if it were a 2019 version (newer than your 2016) instead of the new Model Y? I have a Model Y on order but because it's under 6,000 pounds, I can't write off the entire purchase amount for the Y on my taxes, I'd have to depreciate it over 5 years instead. That's how I'm looking at this decision between used Model X and new Model Y.
Yeah that's a great point and 1 advantage to the model x. The X is a great car, I just couldn't handle going back to those falcon doors regardless of the year. But if your solely basing it on the tax deduction then maybe the X is for you? Good luck in your decision!
On the model x you purchased, Why didn’t it transfer the free supercharging? Did it also have premium connectivity as included package? Or did the charging screen show “no recent supercharging” Im looking to purchase a 2017 that has not been traded into Tesla or sold at auction. Thanks!
It didn't transfer, because the first owner traded it into Tesla, the second owner bought it from Tesla as a certified preowned and he sold it to me, therefore the free super charging did not transfer
So if you waited 1 year to 1 1/2 years you could have bought a used 2020 performance 7 seater model x with a mere 50k miles for $60k which is less than you spent, and would have a much better, bigger and more functional car.
Do you still feel the same present day? Looking at used 2020 X for exact same price as the Model Y. Really hard. I’m bigger guy, slightly more room would be nice. I’m worried about warranty and repair costs on the X….
Sorry but data compilation over hundreds of teslas have shown that degradation on supercharging a lot vs a little or not at all results in no appreciable difference. This was posted recently on social media channels. Look it up.
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I have both a 2018 model X and 2022 model Y. A lot of what you say I agree, although the X is better for ride comfort with air suspension, and I have never had any problem with the falcon doors. Against the X the heating/ac is far better on model Y - I very much notice that these cold winter nights. The free supercharging is huge benefit if you travel long distances, although very difficult to get used one with that included (I have had my X from new). On my 2018 I get up to 150kw/h supercharging and that is more usual for an X. However the Y is a great car, and I enjoy driving either. The X is more of a special car, while the Y is a safer buy.
Thanks for sharing your experience
Which X’s included Free Supercharging for life?
I’m considering 2017-2018 model X or 2020-2021 model Y both 7 seater as I have kids. Any advice or thoughts?
@@hunterscrackdealer6650 up until June 2018, but only for original purchaser
@@theticoboy the rear seats on 7 seater model Y are only suitable for small kids, so if you are keeping the car for the long run, then the X would be better
My 2023 Tesla X is outstanding in everyway. Charges extremely fast, falcon doors are functional and work flawlessly. The ride on air suspension is far superior to the Y when it comes to comfort. The adjustable 17" screen is amazing and fast. On the the road, even at high speeds it's quiet with it's double insulated windows seals and double pane glass. Not quite sure where all this negativity is coming from, particularly since I have had such a positive experience with the model X.
The negativity is coming from my experience with my 2016 X
@@Myksgarage Raven Model X (July 2019 and beyond) fixed a lot of issues compared to pre-raven (2016-July 2019)
Great video, Myck. I lusted for a used MX, but really glad I got a MY. I really hope the MY doesn’t present any big maintenance issues after the warranty expires. But, by then I will be almost 80 so it might not matter! So glad I finally got my Tesla, I am enjoying it on so many levels.
Thanks for your comment Bob!!
I’m in the same headspace. I test drove a Y today, going to test drive a X tomorrow. I’m leaning towards the X, but listening to the logic in your video. The wings on the X are part of the deal, additionally it’s the cargo space.
If I were to get a used X it would be a 2019//2020. On the opposite side the Y would be brand new.
The new Y long range is a fantastic deal right now, with almost a $13,000 recent price drop, and if you qualify for the new $7500 tax credit, it's an even better deal.
As the commentator mentioned this video is so useful for people that are deciding between model Y or used model x. Thank you
Thanks!
Winter 2023 in my 2019 Model X. Great video, it’s nice to hear peoples experience. I purchased my X used in 2022 it’s been a year. I love it! No issues.
I’m a cruiser no kids, I came from a 2020 5 series BMW I could not step into a minimalist interior. I had to have a more luxury car. Wanted the MS but, had been longing for an SUV to hall my camera gear around. The 7 seater with seats folded down was key in most room offered.
I needed the instrument cluster, and I needed a more normal front end. The model Y and 3 front end don’t do it for me. I’m about looks, and luxury. Yes we have a market for that. In my opinion the model X and S are more luxury. I don’t mind giving up miles, as I just commute around town and I have plenty for that. I’m not traveling cross country everyday.
The smarter decision would have been new y if I wanted more efficiency, and warranty. I chose to spoil my self and not give up on what I found more appealing. I’m not regretting it at all. Yes, the falcon doors are embarrassing at times, but at the same time makes you feel like you have the ultimate exotic ride on the block especially with the 22’S on it. :)
Thanks for sharing!!
I have a 2019 MX raven and have never had any problems with the falcon doors. I have about 70k miles on it. I did have the main battery replaced but that was covered under warranty.
Maybe it's just the early 2016s like I have?
Thank you!!! I was just about to purchase 2016 x P90D….Now Model Y.
I think that's a good choice
Thank you so much for this video. You read my mind and now you put me at ease about going with the Y instead of X.
Thanks for watching! I think the Y is the better vehicle
You did do this in 2022 when prices were higher but you also had an older x which had mcu1, was pre raven (no pm motor in front so no regen to hold) and no adaptive suspension. In sept 2023 we got a 2020 performance 7 seater model x for 60k with only 50k miles. We have heated everything, raven upgrade, mcu2 etc. Tinted rear windows and hatch glass which factory I think. Range on that is stated original 305 miles and charging is now up to 200 kw. It also came of course with full self driving computer 3.0 and included basic autopilot like all cars in 2020. They also improved the sensors and added some in the doors. The falcon wings were more of an issue in the older xs but not as much in the newer ones. I realized if buying a used s or x, never buy a pre raven. (pre sept 2019) (then you also get mcu2) We have had no issues yet other than a rock etc chipping and cracking the windshield which was replaced. The falcon wing doors are great, work great and are very functional. They can open and close before reaching vehicle and after leaving. Like how I install a powered frunk as well which I use all the time and also installed in our 2018 model 3. We have a lr dual motor 3 and do not see handling issues and lack of fun when driving the X. Sorry. The only minor things I miss in the x vs 3 or y, is no phone as a key, keycard as backup, and doing other light shows. Not a big deal. Handles amazing, almost no body roll, more comfortable ride, quieter, smoother, more room, an an actually usable 3rd row. Model Y 3rd row is barely usable and only for small children or very short adults.
Great info, thank for sharing your knowledge
I have a used model x 2019 long range, own it for 2 years now and never had issues with falcon door. I guess I can say I’m lucky :) I love the car so far 😊
Maybe they have fixed them on the newer ones. Thanks for sharing your experience
The X is so more luxury and comfort riding vs Y. For me it was an easy choice to buy a late 2018 Model X than a Model Y.
The X with the air suspension does have a nice ride
You read my mind!!! I am trying to determine which vehicle to purchase myself. I love both but really like the X as it’s a bit more room inside as I am a tall guy. Thanks for the great video
I'm glad this was helpful for you! Good luck in your choice
Going through the same thought process. Have some time to decide. Have an I-Pace on order but keeps getting delayed.
@@rdk3996did you get your I Pace yet?
Have 23 MY but am considering 2019MX for a price difference of like 17-19k. Hard to find people weighing the option of brand new y vs older x so this was interesting. Thanks.
The thing I want most from the x weirdly enough is the glass. That front windshield is something else in the x
Good point, we do miss that huge windshield!
Excellent video! I have been thinking about this for weeks and this video definitely helped!
Great! I'm glad this helped!
I am so happy with my X - those doors are damn unique. There is not even a day without someone approaching and asks about it :D
Yeah they are very flashy!
Thanks for the insight! I am right in the position where I am considering this, so this was a great video for information.
Great! Both are great cars!
If one is buying a used older Tesla.. it is not hard to find one with updated screens
Yeah probably
debating same thing - new Y vs. used X. I would spend an extra $20k for a 2019 or 2020 Raven X with 351 mile range. Don't like the falcon wing doors, but the ride seemed so much better on the air suspension. you seemed to bounce around quite a bit on your video. I may just wait 18 months or so hoping for air suspension for the Y.
Yeah air suspension on the Y would be nice, but I don't feel it's necessary
@@Myksgarage Just announced that they have switched to what they call comfort suspension for TX builds since August and CA builds since Oct.
Thanks so much for this video. You've help me a lot as I'm cross shopping a new Y / used X.
Glad to hear, good luck!
Thanks for video. I'm contemplating on purchasing a 2020 Model X over a 2023 Model Y. I hope that the 2020 Model X doesn't have the same issues that the 2016 Model X does.
My dad's 2022 Model X Plaid still has issues with the falcon doors, they haven't fixed those...
did you buy the X or Y?
Great video! This is exactly I was looking for! Keep making for Tesla videos! 💪🏻💪🏻
Thanks! Will do!
@@Myksgarage Perhaps you can make another video for Used MX vs MY in more depth or in different perspective. I’m pretty sure people will engage in
Great video. I’ve placed my order on the y performance. But really useful video. Thanks for sharing your experience.
The Y performance is awesome!
Model Y makes even more sense now with the price cuts. A performance can be had for $55k. More if you qualify for the tax rebate ($7500 fed) and state rebates.
Yeah I agree!
Great compare video, this exactly what I was looking to listen to
Nice!!
Does the Model Y not come with Homelink?? (you have a garage clicker on the sun visor)
No it doesn't. It does have an option you can buy from Tesla as an accessory.
I am not sure it is a good thing for your 2016 used MX when you mentioned it got extended factory warranty AND you used it quite often during your ownership. Having extended factory warranty is nice but NOT having to use it because the car does not need any repairs is even better.
I wanted to be as transparent as possible and the fact it was in the shop a lot was a negative part of ownership. Any potential older Model X owner needs to know this information.
Great video, thank you. Quick question, by purchasing the Model X, I can write it all off for my taxes since I have my own business. Would you purchase the used Model X if it were a 2019 version (newer than your 2016) instead of the new Model Y? I have a Model Y on order but because it's under 6,000 pounds, I can't write off the entire purchase amount for the Y on my taxes, I'd have to depreciate it over 5 years instead. That's how I'm looking at this decision between used Model X and new Model Y.
Yeah that's a great point and 1 advantage to the model x. The X is a great car, I just couldn't handle going back to those falcon doors regardless of the year. But if your solely basing it on the tax deduction then maybe the X is for you? Good luck in your decision!
Nice video, very interesting perspective.
Thanks for watching
Great insight
Thank you!
On the model x you purchased, Why didn’t it transfer the free supercharging?
Did it also have premium connectivity as included package? Or did the charging screen show “no recent supercharging”
Im looking to purchase a 2017 that has not been traded into Tesla or sold at auction.
Thanks!
It didn't transfer, because the first owner traded it into Tesla, the second owner bought it from Tesla as a certified preowned and he sold it to me, therefore the free super charging did not transfer
So if you waited 1 year to 1 1/2 years you could have bought a used 2020 performance 7 seater model x with a mere 50k miles for $60k which is less than you spent, and would have a much better, bigger and more functional car.
I actually ended up selling the x for Almost $18k more than I paid for it, so it was a win
Honest opinions. Thanks.
Yes! Thanks for watching
How did he have a warranty on the model x with 70k miles? Was that aftermarket warranty? Im aware the battery is covered to 120k. Basic is only to 50k
It had an extended service contract
Any issues with phantom braking in either car? That is what is keeping me from getting one.
A couple of times in the Y, I don't recall having that occur in the X
@@Myksgarage ok thanks for the response
how about the refreshed new model x, did they fix most of the issues you mentioned, sir?
The doors are still problematic
Do you still feel the same present day?
Looking at used 2020 X for exact same price as the Model Y. Really hard.
I’m bigger guy, slightly more room would be nice.
I’m worried about warranty and repair costs on the X….
Model y is even a better deal right now, I would go Model Y. Latest Tech, warranty and better efficiency.
Thanks for your feedback!
If money wasn’t an issue, would you prefer a new model S or model Y for daily use?
Model S Plaid all day long....but that car is double the cost of the Y, and money is always a factor
After hearing all the problems. It totally turn me off
From which one?
With a 2016 model x but that is really old, don't buy one that old. Only buy sept 2019 (raven or later).
Back when I bought mine it was still under warranty which is the biggest concern
They need a bigger Y. But I hear they are making a smaller one now.
Yeah they need a bigger SUV
Doesn't the Model X ride more smooth than the Model Y?
Yes it does, The X has air ride suspension
Even if money isn't an issue I'd still take the Y. No way in hell I'd buy any used vehicle and the Model X is no exception.
Good point
My rule of thumb is to never buy a new model vehicle in its first 2 years (especially Tesla).
Yeah that's a good rule to follow!
Wait, does your Y have the Carbon Fiber dash? Or was that the X?
The Y has a carbon fiber overlay to cover up the wood look, like this one here: amzn.to/3QeO8ZO
Sorry but data compilation over hundreds of teslas have shown that degradation on supercharging a lot vs a little or not at all results in no appreciable difference. This was posted recently on social media channels. Look it up.
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You talked a lot about your Ex in this video, you should go to therapy and vent
Jk ahaha, thanks for the vid
Making this video is my therapy 😀
Model x the SUV you can't put roof racks on .(Big Fail)
Yeah just a cargo carrier on the rear hitch
Model Y is the worst of whole lineup. Ride quality disaster, hate door handels, one screen. On X I only dont like falcon doors
Thanks for sharing your experience
Thank you for all you said, man !
I appreciate the positive comment! Thanks for watching