If my memory serves me right from playing baldur's gate 1 and 2 if you don't pass a death save you die instantly regardless of your health. If you pass it you are immune
@@phantomvulpe791 That may be how it works in those games, I havent played them but in DnD when your health hits zero you fall down and for the next three turns you have to roll a death save. Best of three, if you fail two your character is dead, if you succeed you are at 1 hp and are unconcious for the fight
@@Viper40758 yeah cause some spells like the wailing banshee(fuck those liches) everyone who hears it dies if they don't pass the save to be immune(this does not affect your party if you use it). I forgot to mention that the two baldur's gate games both use second edition mechanics. Third edition if you're playing the enhanced edition.
Good to hear, Love borderlands. Still sucks that the og characters got treated dirty in BL3 (including Tina. Nothing to do with her age btw? Kinda a weird reply but okay……. if that’s how you interpret it)
Because the writers of BL2 and Pre-Sequel included Anthony Burch, who's actually a decently good writer for comedy themes that fit the BL series. BL3 and Wonderland used different writers who, at the least, don't understand character style or storytelling as well, and instead wrote most of the characters as caricatures of their BL2/PS counterparts that only follow their style superficially. So, mostly that.
@@OnyxBMW I don't know. Those Borderlands 3 DLCs were pretty god story wise. from Moxxie and Timothy's reconcile of jack. to hammerlock and Wainwright's wedding. To the old west meets oriental of bounty of blood. to Krieg's mind and the memories of his past.
I’ve been rewatching your older videos and I believe some of them deserve a remaster. The quality of your content has gone through the roof since their initial release. I’d love to see an updated review of the original F.E.A.R. or Black, just to name a few.
Tiny Tina went from having one of the most interesting character arcs with her using the first game of Bunkers and Badasses to try and cope with Roland's death, to being an absolute waste of space in BL3.
Aye, a rather ignominious fate to be sure. Was hoping Wonderlands would improve her, but not so. At least not yet. Perhaps as the game continues its life, that will change.
Some good entertainment here mate. Subbed. Also, grats on the son! I myself have 4 daughters, the youngest being 5 mos. They're a lot of work but bring joy to life.
Hey man it is my most awaited game of the year, I would buy it even if it was more expensive. People were waiting for Elden ring while I waited for this
I swear to hell, this better release on Steam/GOG or I'm gonna get fucking pissed. I see a Steam listing for it now, but it wouldn't be the first time these fucking publishers yanked the carpet out from under us.
They put the dice in the game as people felt it was too easy to get legendaries in BL3, I get that and all but I really hope me having less or none of the dice won’t effect my dedicated legendary drop rates. I was fine with grinding bosses in BL2 for hours when I was younger but now that I’m older I don’t have as much time. Oh well if it comes to that Crossplay should make trading easier.
It's a shame they didn't swap out guns for something fantasy looking but keeping the same effect as bullets. Having your guns in the fantasy era was part of the thing with Assault on Dragon Keep but that was appreciated because you kept your guns from the main game so weren't downgraded to play the DLC but as a standalone fantasy setting just some magic staff lore would have made more sense cos you're not carrying over a Borderlands loadout or anything
SO excited for the endgame this time around. I've always adored the Borderlands series, but I've never enjoyed how end-game grinding for best in slot loot works. The new systems for endgame look straight-up ADDICTIVE.
This is like if Ubisoft decided to make a full fledged Blood Dragon game. They took one of the best Borderlands DLC's ever and just expanded on it HARD.
I have played other tabletops and gamebooks and HeroQuest and of course some interest in D&D as well. I absolutely loved Assault on Dragon Keep DLC for Borderlands 2 it really nailed tabletop gaming and fantasy tropes. This looks all that 10x bigger!
I think the reason you earn not so good loot is because they significantly nerfed loot drops thanks to borderlands 3. Because in borderlands 3 it was really easy to earn a legendary weapon or a purple weapon really frequently. And people didn’t like how easy it was to get them so gearbox scaled back how easy you could get legendaries etc.
My bank is maxed out (with the later bank expansions) with just rows and rows of different legendaries. My bank in bl2 is barely full, even with triple the gametime in bl2 x)
I never put real time into the endgame of bl3 like I did with 2, but I didn't mind getting lots of legendaries becuase there was so many and to get the prefixes (double penatrating) was still a 1% drop when you had 500 different legendaries dropping. Only got to about mayhem 4 and didn't play DLC might be bad at TRUE endgame
I’ve been playing the end game content for a few weeks now and I have to say besides the wasted $20 I spent on the season pass when it was on sale I absolutely love this game. The campaign was extremely fun and I’ve been going back to finish all the side missions I missed or ignored. I throughly enjoy having the Clawbringer and Spore Warden buddies walking around dishing out damage.
I never got to play the original DLC of Tiny Tina's B&B campaign, but it always seemed the most intriguing seeing a fantasy setting be met with arsenals of rifles and bullets against dragons and skelies.
You can buy it separately from Borderlands 2 now, it goes on sale for like $5 regularly and is only $10 off sale. Wonderlands is a direct sequel to it, so I highly recommend playing it before Wonderlands. Not to mention, Dragon Keep is quintessential playing for any gamer worth their salt. It's the Shivering Isles of looter shooters.
Congrats on jr Gman! I've been religiously following since you had 40k followers and always watch your reviews before buying a game since we have identical tastes in games 😊
While I don't really like the character Tiny Tina, I find her barely tolerable. I do love this idea of fantasy FPS, even though it's still more sci-fi looking here. Also the mixing of CRPG overworld and FPS is brilliant. I hope more FPS games steal that idea.
I'm just happy that Tiny Tina is back to being tiny. It's like watching a pint-sized Tank Girl. She's actually the only reason I wanted to play Borderlands. I just find demented characters really enjoyable.
Did you play the DLC on Borderlands 2? That's where this spin-off got its greenlight :P It was so great I played through it twice and never bothered finishing the actual game after that. I've definitely heard this was coming and I'd only be afraid it could take itself a bit too seriously now it's a main title in that it was a DLC length gag before but now they've got to stretch disbelief over a whole game...
You mean the dlc that copied into a standalone dlc.of the same thing separate from the game that confused alot of people thinking it was an expansion to it?
@@quarreneverett4767 Yes I guess that one. I got the standalone recently as a PS+ bonus and knew what it was though :) It's just the DLC but without needing the main game, and a pretty blatant attempt to build anticipation for Wonderlands.
@@frank8917 Yes Assault on Dragon Keep filled me with joy when I played it. I'm not a big gun fan or FPS fan but I do like the Borderlands and Fallout series'. Seeing it turn into a funny fantasy RPG was awesome!
Tiny TIna's Wonderlands wasn't widely released on Windows, it's an Epic Exclusive for 6months-1yr. This is just a warning for all interested. It was originally on Steam, but now it's just a store page with coming soon. So, I'm not touching it for a year. I refuse to deal with the Epic launcher.
I don't really understand why they keep trying to cash in on Tina. I feel like most people share the sentiment of not finding Tina funny, and a lot of people find her completely annoying. It's purely the character, or lack thereof.
@@b2k_scott106 Mmm, her personality is 100% like it is in 3: annoying with no substance. Again, being somewhat likable in 2 is irrelevant to how she is in this game.
I normally agree with Gman's reviews but I feel he is way off here. Yes this game is kinda fun for a single playthrough but borderlands is meant to be played time and time again. This game has absolutely no replay value and I knew the writing would be pretty bad but it somehow far exceeded my expectations in terms of how bad it was. There is barely any variation in enemies and the guns and abilities all feel very similar after a half dozen hours. The game is basically the opposite of Doom Eternal, and not that every game needs to be similar to doom but where as in Doom all the enemy placements have meaning and every enemy type has purpose. In Wonderlands there is just hoards of the same half dozen enemies placed randomly to fill time and space. The enemies are all pretty boring to fight and the bosses are all run of the mill bullet sponges. Lastly is the season pass. The only thing that could have saved the game in the long run, is $30 for 4 small dungeons that can be beaten in a half hour each. There is some light end game content with randomized dungeons ripped directly out of diablo 3. Ive spent hundreds of hours in the borderlands franchise but this ain't it chief. If the game is priced at $15-20 it's a recommend but only if.
22:16 That's not just any old fire pillar either, it's the Shadowfire Pillar Orendi uses in Battleborn. Yes, I know. I was one of the 20 or so people who kept playing that game beyond 2016. Shoot me.
BL2 was such a incredible game. The writing was icing on the cake and it knew when to be serious. Tina refusing to accept Roland's death in DLC was great. BL3 was a disaster. Especially when we take BL2 and Tales from Borderlands into consideration. Imo BL4 should just retcon BL3. Certain deaths and "character assassinations" aren't recoverable IMO.
eh, the only thing they can do is to atleast improve on problems people had, more specifically the girl everyone hated (idk her name sorry) and make her more mature and perhaps suggest that lilith isnt dead, imo just my opinion.
@@Zeus-zv7dr If they want to continue timeline after BL3's mess, I am more than ok with Lilith dying. She was backstabbing, cruel pos with tons of plot armor without redeeming charm of other vault hunters. Mava should be just killed and forgotten. BL4 should be heavily use characters from TFB. Gearbox should get their shit together, get rid of Randy Pitchford, stop screwing over VAs and try to aqcuire BL2 and Tales from Borderlands writers. Tone, overwhelming cringe and lack of self-awereness flooding almost every single line of dialogue/plot in BL3 is clear indication that their current team/management are incapable of delivering anything tolerable.
@@phil_5430 Comedy hits different for everyone. I know some shit people I work with find hilarious, and Im like wut? But yeah borderlands hits well with me too man.
After a bit of contemplation I ended up buying this on my Series X. I was pleasantly surprised at the length of it so far and the gameplay is typical to what I figured it would be. And you’re absolutely right every time I hear Will Arnette all I think of is Gob Bluth.
3:17 after BL2 almost all the characters have been Flanderized. It's like the they lost the original writer(s) and just memberberry everything, like Star Wars.
I feel you on the whole "you'll stick with a lower level gun because its better than newer one" In Borderlands 1 I ended up getting this long barrelled 2 shot revolver that was level 27 and out performed every weapon I got past that level then the same happened in borderlands 2 with the new tech guns, I ended up with a DAHL incendiary plasma caster SMG at level 29 and even when im maxed out on every level possible its out performing everything the game threw at me
@@dracobellator1164 - The main story of BL3 was so bad to me that I'm still unwilling to buy the game just to play the DLCs. I'm really happy that they are releasing this game though and I've pre-ordered it! Can't wait to play it soon!
Come on, it's not THAT bad. It just isn't as good as BL2, but it has awesome moments and the best gameplay in the series. People just hating to hate these days.
@@SadBnnuyTo this day idk what some people complain about. Some stuff is cringe inducing most of its just ridiculous and funny to me. I hated the main villains of 3 but all the side quest I enjoyed. Even Pre Sequel being way weaker in the jokes department I still liked the writing for jacks downfall into madness. I don’t get what everyone’s always mad about to be honest.
@@FarikoWishless some of the side quests for borderlands 2 were actually just downright brilliant, and the tiny tinas dlc was great. I even thought some of wonderlands side quests were pretty good too. borderlands 3 just has some horrid writing so bad it sours the rest of the series
@@braxtonwise9897 BL3 story had awful writing but side quest I felt was on par with a lot of BL2 he main story and characters like the twins and Ava were so fucking bad that it made people hate the game as a whole but for me side quest gameplay and systems as well as visuals and feel make it the most fun borderlands gameplay wise. Quest like Chad had me an my friend crying laughing brought back good memories of shit like face mcshooty
Ultimately I the class system feels like it brings micro variation, not macro; the fundamental gameplay loop is always the same, but every class specializes in a different aspect of said loop. *Especially* when you combine them. For example I've got a "Hexecutioner" (Spellshot + Clawbringer) who's been built for elements & status effect damage; able to hit enemies with up to 3 types of damage simultaneously if played right, and watching the waterfall of numbers go.
Nice lol tell me more please I like them a but. I started appreciating more when I learned a out the band behind them and their solo songs in the group
@@quarreneverett4767 well the band from what I’ve gathered is either on hiatus or has officially broken up seeing as one of the girls was unfortunately really sick . Additionally I’d recommend their song Pa Pa ya here’s the link th-cam.com/video/oO7Y8NsnkRg/w-d-xo.html
@@gamingforever9121 yeah one wa sick but they got replacements as they ar epart.of a large group of friends from a school to train stage presence and stuff a couple of the other members as far as the girls go are going to do other projects as well. The kami band the band behind them is a really good band if you see some of their solo performances at the concerts
I’ve always liked claptrap, mainly just pre borderlands 3. The voice actor for him was a real Chad, dude took 0 payment for his work in the original because of budget reasons. Then still took no payment for 2, and the pre sequel.
I'm glad they didn't. There are already so many melee games out there. It's nice to have the Borderlands gameplay in a different setting that this game is in.
This actually looks more fun than the base Borderlands Games. I really like the whole overworld aspect too, really gives the game more of an RPG feel. I hope they do more of this!! A friend recently gifted me a copy of BL3, so I'll DEFINITELY be picking up this DLC. Love ya, Sonny Jim!!
Choosing your class makes a huge difference. They don’t all do the same thing, some are OP and others are way too underpowered. The class you choose definitely matters
Thanks for going into details about the class system, I remember playing Borderlands 2 and being unhappy with the character I picked, but I didn't want to restart with a new character so I kept going and didn't really have that much fun. But seriously and more importantly, what color socks are you wearing Gman?
I started out playing two different vault hunters because I wasn't sure which to go with but after playing them both to level 14 or so, I was able to pick for sure which to go with for the rest of the game and I'm pretty happy with my choice! You should try replaying it again. Look up the videos about each vault hunter if you need to to pick the one that you will have the most fun with.
Man, these games are all so replayable. The fanbase has been replaying them with the same 4 characters each game for over a decade at this point. Restarting as a new character really is nothing, if you're not having fun with your current one, just switch. You'll be back where you are now in no time.
@@xMaggostx We don't know if it's "day one" on Steam or not. Apparently in the Steam DB people found entries for either March 31st or April 30th for a release on Steam. Whether either of those are true, who knows? We may still have a 6-month Epic Store exclusive after all. Guess we will find out either tomorrow or in a month.
Wasnt entirely expecting you to enjoy the chaotic CHAOS that is loot and gear that lives within the borderlands series I love all your reveiws buddies, i have already been enjoying this game myself: But i needed to see your review on this. and i respect it I feel as a LONG TIME Borderlands player some of the criticism and issues on a few features on the game often go over my head, even i have found some of the UI awkward in this run. The Butt Stallion Buff you can find in the chaos chamber only says +3 Skill "sneak attack" and if you didnt remember the name over every node in the skill tree i originally had no idea what this did.
Aside from short DLCs, The game is AMAZING. I've been playing since release. Most amazing fact this game was developed almost entirely remotely from home during the peak Covid-19 pandemic. Great job GearBox!
Easy parry system, as you're about to be melee'd, melee them back, boom, stuns the enemy for a short time. You could hear a sound like how in doom does for the Marauder (The glow eyes and the high pitched noise)
I hope they delve more into the whole Character Customization, More Gear and Equip able Melees in the future for their Borderlands Series cause these are by far the most creative Gear Box has been sense BL2. Plus they just make the game more better and adds hella more variations
A Death Throw. Like A Death Saving Throw, cause in D&D you don't just die out right but there is such thing as actual Instant Death. Something that well exceeds a persons over all health pool. Secondary classing, hell yeah.
Borderlands just doesn’t DO anything for me- whatsoever!! Gearbox is ass & I guess I loathe Randall Pitchford so much that I’m unable to enjoy his games knowing what he’s done in the past to get them out…. Maybe I can’t get over the debacle of the “7-7.5 game” Colonial Marines- I don’t know, but I’ve *NEVER* enjoyed Borderlands…. No matter how petty the reason, it’s not as petty as Pitchford ….I STILL don’t like Randy nor Gearbox.
Gearbox has still just failed to recapture the magic that was Borderlands 2. The only thing BL2 was missing was the ability to skip dialogue and cutscenes.
@@MK30005 What was the original title? Now it's "Tiny Tina's Wonderlands Review - More Than Just DLC" I was there but forgotten already and we need a record ready for when it gets 'rdiculous' ;)
God dammit that writing was so unfunny that it began to suck the amusement from other jokes. You’re so right about it basically being “reddit” the writing. All the “SupErduPerINo buddy!” And the sudden ADHD style loudly shouted word in an otherwise normal sentence made me cringe so hard that I turned inside out. It was pretty much xXrAndomPenguiNXx “check out my spoon!” Type bullshit throughout. I uninstalled and refunded after like 30mins.
Would the new IP make a good entry point? Ive played some of every borderlands but always hit a skill barrier because everyone online has so much experience already
The co-op in Borderlands is really fun when you're the one slightly ahead in levels, but really frustrating when you're a little behind in levels. I think you will find this in every game including this one. If it bores you I wouldn't bother, or try Assault on Dragon Keep first as it's cheaper and the same idea. Stand alone version of BL2 DLC.
I'm fine with it. They made Battleborn and it died before it even took off. So if they can salvage some of the cool shit from that game, it's better than it going to waste. Some of Battleborn looked really cool.
@@FlickTheBrick Out of curiosity, why do you turn it off? I love the double tap strafe. I would be so useful in any FPS, or even any third person games.
@@TheDarkblue57 Well, that's an animation complaint. Yes, the animation of the dodge is definitely exaggerated in UT99. Might directly translate to something like Fortnite, but yea... it would look stupid in Day Z. But dodging is a complete natural movement in real life, so it would be easy to make a realistic animation for those shooters. Granted, I get that it wouldn't be as effective, but even a dodge mechanic, would be useful.
that was a good choice I didn't enjoy most of borderlands 2. but the tiny tina campign felt fun the entire way trough. When it comes to tina , i gues her character an aquired taste. yes, she's obnoxious, but the fun of the character is how volatile she is, and that is what made the DLC so fun. Tina just out of nothing will throw shit at you becuase it's fun. I wish the games played more with her mental instability, but by Bl3 she became more of a one note character. That's really sad, because there was some promise of character development for the end of Assault on Dragon's keep. And you mentioned Claptrap, I hated it in BL 2. I felt bad for the mishaps of the first BL Claptrap But i wanted to strap BL2 Claptrap to a rocket and send it to the moon. He may be one of the reasons i never came back to this series. He's annoying, loud, and never shuts up.
One would expect Gearbox to adjust the sense of humor of the series. But the best point was the first game. Every game after went overboard with the loud and obnoxious. I wouldn't mind Tina if she was the only character like this, but even Scooter is incredibly annoying in the sequel, and he was very compelling in the first game.
i really don't mind the other stuff borderlands always does like jokes and stuff, i still love their gameplay and it's the most clusterfuck shooting compared to other games, thanks for the review Gman, i might check this game later
The way to describe this gameplay I've been watching throughout your review is best summed up by your mates, " I don't even know whats going in in the tornados but I know shits dying." Your other mate: "Yeeah..." Utter perfection. 🤣🤣
I wonder which character gonna die unceremoniously in this game? Gotta love Gearbox's 2010 meme culture writing mindset. At least, the gameplay is still addicting AF, I see.
Gman just spoiled it, so we already know. My GF also noticed that every time we see Tina playing B&B is after someone died, and apparently she has a point
@@dracobellator1164 That’s literally what dude said. It was originally going to be a DLC but got a full fledged release. Kinda like SilkSong is to Hollowknight
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Death Saving Throws are a DnD mechanic, I think the change was thematic and works in this context
He doesn't seem familiar with DnD, so not surprised he doesn't know what a death save is
If my memory serves me right from playing baldur's gate 1 and 2 if you don't pass a death save you die instantly regardless of your health. If you pass it you are immune
@@phantomvulpe791 That may be how it works in those games, I havent played them but in DnD when your health hits zero you fall down and for the next three turns you have to roll a death save. Best of three, if you fail two your character is dead, if you succeed you are at 1 hp and are unconcious for the fight
@@Viper40758 yeah cause some spells like the wailing banshee(fuck those liches) everyone who hears it dies if they don't pass the save to be immune(this does not affect your party if you use it). I forgot to mention that the two baldur's gate games both use second edition mechanics. Third edition if you're playing the enhanced edition.
"create your own character" omg they did it, not in the Borderlands titles but on its spin-off
I personally suspect they're using Wonderlands as a test run for some mechanics before dropping them in a mainline BL game. I have no proof.
It's a stable or "RPG" after all. Even post apocalyptic videogame RPGs. That you get to create your character; your role...
@@eronth Exactly! BL4 is going to be amazing
Finally!
@@slimpanther I wouldn't put your hopes into creating characters for borderlands
Good to hear,
Love borderlands.
Still sucks that the og characters got treated dirty in BL3 (including Tina. Nothing to do with her age btw? Kinda a weird reply but okay……. if that’s how you interpret it)
I don't see how tina got a short end in BL3.
she just got older.
which is normal.
Because the writers of BL2 and Pre-Sequel included Anthony Burch, who's actually a decently good writer for comedy themes that fit the BL series. BL3 and Wonderland used different writers who, at the least, don't understand character style or storytelling as well, and instead wrote most of the characters as caricatures of their BL2/PS counterparts that only follow their style superficially.
So, mostly that.
reminder Maya died so Ava could walk
@@CentauriTT Maya still had one of the best roles in a DLC.
@@OnyxBMW I don't know. Those Borderlands 3 DLCs were pretty god story wise.
from Moxxie and Timothy's reconcile of jack.
to hammerlock and Wainwright's wedding.
To the old west meets oriental of bounty of blood.
to Krieg's mind and the memories of his past.
I’ve been rewatching your older videos and I believe some of them deserve a remaster. The quality of your content has gone through the roof since their initial release. I’d love to see an updated review of the original F.E.A.R. or Black, just to name a few.
Damn I love the F.E.A.R games so much, at least the first two, almost as much as you love your sister.
@@connordorman117 Nah, man. F.E.A.R. over Cersei any day. Sometimes she can be a real bitch, but F.E.A.R. never disappoints.
@@FlickTheBrick this is now official canon.
Man I’ve been dreaming of a BLACK remake forever. That game was incredible. Sorry, IS still incredible.
Tiny Tina went from having one of the most interesting character arcs with her using the first game of Bunkers and Badasses to try and cope with Roland's death, to being an absolute waste of space in BL3.
And hearing that they spend no more time on that in Wonderlands is incredibly disappointing.
Good because she the worst character in the game
@@michaelcooke4333 literally one of the best character's 😂
Aye, a rather ignominious fate to be sure. Was hoping Wonderlands would improve her, but not so. At least not yet. Perhaps as the game continues its life, that will change.
@@michaelcooke4333 that title goes to ava but whatever you say
Some good entertainment here mate. Subbed. Also, grats on the son! I myself have 4 daughters, the youngest being 5 mos. They're a lot of work but bring joy to life.
totally agree and congrats on the new born … expecting my first boyyyieeee this September myself
@@colonelklink8790why did you say it like that?
I think it's wrong to treat it as "A little looter shooter". Remember that this is a full priced AAA title, and is a lot of money for many people
Yea I really want to get into it but I'll still be waiting for price drops and discounts. I don't have £60 to spare.
Hey man it is my most awaited game of the year, I would buy it even if it was more expensive. People were waiting for Elden ring while I waited for this
I rarely buy new but Red Dead Redemption 2 and Streets of Rage 4 I bought new and this is one I'd probably buy new too if I had the funds to spare.
@@maksudshtrudel1089 hahaha
I swear to hell, this better release on Steam/GOG or I'm gonna get fucking pissed. I see a Steam listing for it now, but it wouldn't be the first time these fucking publishers yanked the carpet out from under us.
They put the dice in the game as people felt it was too easy to get legendaries in BL3, I get that and all but I really hope me having less or none of the dice won’t effect my dedicated legendary drop rates. I was fine with grinding bosses in BL2 for hours when I was younger but now that I’m older I don’t have as much time. Oh well if it comes to that Crossplay should make trading easier.
agreed you could quickly get spontaneous legendaries every twenty minutes after one playthrough
It's a shame they didn't swap out guns for something fantasy looking but keeping the same effect as bullets. Having your guns in the fantasy era was part of the thing with Assault on Dragon Keep but that was appreciated because you kept your guns from the main game so weren't downgraded to play the DLC but as a standalone fantasy setting just some magic staff lore would have made more sense cos you're not carrying over a Borderlands loadout or anything
They have guns that are already basically magic why would they have magic staves
thats dumb
Wouldn't be a true borderlands spinoff without guns
This is practically based on a dlc in borderlands 2 by the same name
Yeah that what killed the game for me. Seems lazy lul
SO excited for the endgame this time around. I've always adored the Borderlands series, but I've never enjoyed how end-game grinding for best in slot loot works. The new systems for endgame look straight-up ADDICTIVE.
so what is endgame systems/content? CUrious
@@MrrrrMime there called chaos dungeons, kinda procedurally generated boss arenas and such
This is like if Ubisoft decided to make a full fledged Blood Dragon game.
They took one of the best Borderlands DLC's ever and just expanded on it HARD.
people want a Full Fledged Blood Dragon game, hopefully we get it.
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Yea I love that DLC
Oh Ubisoft. EA but in a blue dlc reskin on sale now for 4.99
@@jiggycalzone8585 I think they're all getting bigger and so more corporate so they go the same way eventually.
You'd think that after hearing the fart reverb so many times it would stop being funny, but i still smile everytime.
it catches me off guard everytime lmao
It's just great.
Same dude Same
Farts will forever be funny. Society just doesn't like to admit it.
@@carlosfred8673 The sound is. The smell doe...
As someone who does play DnD, this game feels accurate.
I have played other tabletops and gamebooks and HeroQuest and of course some interest in D&D as well. I absolutely loved Assault on Dragon Keep DLC for Borderlands 2 it really nailed tabletop gaming and fantasy tropes. This looks all that 10x bigger!
For someone who is useless at D&D maybe . There is nothing special about the gameplay but there should be if they had actual talent behind it.
I think the reason you earn not so good loot is because they significantly nerfed loot drops thanks to borderlands 3. Because in borderlands 3 it was really easy to earn a legendary weapon or a purple weapon really frequently. And people didn’t like how easy it was to get them so gearbox scaled back how easy you could get legendaries etc.
Yeah it was stupid easy in bl3.
My bank is maxed out (with the later bank expansions) with just rows and rows of different legendaries. My bank in bl2 is barely full, even with triple the gametime in bl2 x)
I never put real time into the endgame of bl3 like I did with 2, but I didn't mind getting lots of legendaries becuase there was so many and to get the prefixes (double penatrating) was still a 1% drop when you had 500 different legendaries dropping.
Only got to about mayhem 4 and didn't play DLC might be bad at TRUE endgame
I’ve been playing the end game content for a few weeks now and I have to say besides the wasted $20 I spent on the season pass when it was on sale I absolutely love this game. The campaign was extremely fun and I’ve been going back to finish all the side missions I missed or ignored. I throughly enjoy having the Clawbringer and Spore Warden buddies walking around dishing out damage.
I just want to congratulate you and your wife on your child... and thanks for the video
I never got to play the original DLC of Tiny Tina's B&B campaign, but it always seemed the most intriguing seeing a fantasy setting be met with arsenals of rifles and bullets against dragons and skelies.
You can buy it separately from Borderlands 2 now, it goes on sale for like $5 regularly and is only $10 off sale. Wonderlands is a direct sequel to it, so I highly recommend playing it before Wonderlands. Not to mention, Dragon Keep is quintessential playing for any gamer worth their salt. It's the Shivering Isles of looter shooters.
It's awesome I would recommend going back and playing it. Plus we get a little bit of character development out of Tina
Congrats on jr Gman! I've been religiously following since you had 40k followers and always watch your reviews before buying a game since we have identical tastes in games 😊
I like that they used Roland's voice as the general narrator beyond Tina being DM.
While I don't really like the character Tiny Tina, I find her barely tolerable. I do love this idea of fantasy FPS, even though it's still more sci-fi looking here. Also the mixing of CRPG overworld and FPS is brilliant. I hope more FPS games steal that idea.
I'm just happy that Tiny Tina is back to being tiny. It's like watching a pint-sized Tank Girl. She's actually the only reason I wanted to play Borderlands. I just find demented characters really enjoyable.
I like her but only in small doses not interested in spending a whole game with her
Did you play the DLC on Borderlands 2? That's where this spin-off got its greenlight :P It was so great I played through it twice and never bothered finishing the actual game after that.
I've definitely heard this was coming and I'd only be afraid it could take itself a bit too seriously now it's a main title in that it was a DLC length gag before but now they've got to stretch disbelief over a whole game...
You mean the dlc that copied into a standalone dlc.of the same thing separate from the game that confused alot of people thinking it was an expansion to it?
@@quarreneverett4767 Yes I guess that one. I got the standalone recently as a PS+ bonus and knew what it was though :) It's just the DLC but without needing the main game, and a pretty blatant attempt to build anticipation for Wonderlands.
@@kailomonkey you mean Assault on Dragon Keep?
@@frank8917 Yes Assault on Dragon Keep filled me with joy when I played it. I'm not a big gun fan or FPS fan but I do like the Borderlands and Fallout series'. Seeing it turn into a funny fantasy RPG was awesome!
@@kailomonkey also, that game thought us that the only way to solve our problems is by punching them
I got back into Borderlands 3 in anticipation for Wonderland and just beat the last Dlc, so I’m definitely ready for this game.
I wouldnt even be surprised if there was an actual "Bad Dragon" as a melee weapon in this game..
please delete this comment before they make a DLC I'm begging you
I thought i heard that
@@russellanthony568 heard it too but i think he was just joking
Tho it would fit borderlands or rather the tone of that
Not this one, its rated t
Congrats on Gman Jnr bro, been following for a while and in a gamer dad here myself! All worth it for those co-op memories man!
"People talk like they're trying to get upvotes on reddit" got me good
After expriencing borderlands 3 first hand...I think I'll wait for sale on this one even though I know it would be fun. Also fuck epic exclusivity
Tiny TIna's Wonderlands wasn't widely released on Windows, it's an Epic Exclusive for 6months-1yr.
This is just a warning for all interested. It was originally on Steam, but now it's just a store page with coming soon.
So, I'm not touching it for a year. I refuse to deal with the Epic launcher.
ah, it is console exclusive for a year, that is a shame.
Same here I just wish I knew how long it will be till this timed exclusivity deal ends
@@drivanradosivic1357 I love your reply!
I refuse to acknowledge Epic as a PC game store.
I don't really understand why they keep trying to cash in on Tina. I feel like most people share the sentiment of not finding Tina funny, and a lot of people find her completely annoying. It's purely the character, or lack thereof.
People only started to dislike Tina in 3, Tina in 2 was almost always shown love in the community
@@b2k_scott106 Okay, though that is irrelevant to how people feel about her character as it is currently.
@@22locor but this is before 3 and not long after 2, which gives her the same characteristics she had in 2? so it’s very relevant
@@b2k_scott106 Mmm, her personality is 100% like it is in 3: annoying with no substance. Again, being somewhat likable in 2 is irrelevant to how she is in this game.
I still can't believe Aloy and Tina share the same voice actor.
Yeah I said the same about Paarthurnax and Mario...
I normally agree with Gman's reviews but I feel he is way off here. Yes this game is kinda fun for a single playthrough but borderlands is meant to be played time and time again. This game has absolutely no replay value and I knew the writing would be pretty bad but it somehow far exceeded my expectations in terms of how bad it was. There is barely any variation in enemies and the guns and abilities all feel very similar after a half dozen hours.
The game is basically the opposite of Doom Eternal, and not that every game needs to be similar to doom but where as in Doom all the enemy placements have meaning and every enemy type has purpose. In Wonderlands there is just hoards of the same half dozen enemies placed randomly to fill time and space. The enemies are all pretty boring to fight and the bosses are all run of the mill bullet sponges. Lastly is the season pass. The only thing that could have saved the game in the long run, is $30 for 4 small dungeons that can be beaten in a half hour each. There is some light end game content with randomized dungeons ripped directly out of diablo 3.
Ive spent hundreds of hours in the borderlands franchise but this ain't it chief. If the game is priced at $15-20 it's a recommend but only if.
22:16 That's not just any old fire pillar either, it's the Shadowfire Pillar Orendi uses in Battleborn. Yes, I know. I was one of the 20 or so people who kept playing that game beyond 2016. Shoot me.
I recognized it too. I bought the game off one of those key sites for 8 bucks or so to play the campaign. I miss it
BL2 was such a incredible game. The writing was icing on the cake and it knew when to be serious. Tina refusing to accept Roland's death in DLC was great.
BL3 was a disaster. Especially when we take BL2 and Tales from Borderlands into consideration. Imo BL4 should just retcon BL3. Certain deaths and "character assassinations" aren't recoverable IMO.
eh, the only thing they can do is to atleast improve on problems people had, more specifically the girl everyone hated (idk her name sorry) and make her more mature and perhaps suggest that lilith isnt dead, imo just my opinion.
@@Zeus-zv7dr If they want to continue timeline after BL3's mess, I am more than ok with Lilith dying. She was backstabbing, cruel pos with tons of plot armor without redeeming charm of other vault hunters.
Mava should be just killed and forgotten.
BL4 should be heavily use characters from TFB.
Gearbox should get their shit together, get rid of Randy Pitchford, stop screwing over VAs and try to aqcuire BL2 and Tales from Borderlands writers.
Tone, overwhelming cringe and lack of self-awereness flooding almost every single line of dialogue/plot in BL3 is clear indication that their current team/management are incapable of delivering anything tolerable.
Cannot wait to pick it up Friday, very damn excited
The environments look fun, but the writing and voice acting will actually make me smash my keyboard.
Yup. I couldn't stand it so much that I never finished BL2
@@alexsilva28 Really? Because BL2 is the best in the series....
@@phil_5430 that just makes me wanna stay away from the others then
@@phil_5430 Comedy hits different for everyone. I know some shit people I work with find hilarious, and Im like wut?
But yeah borderlands hits well with me too man.
After a bit of contemplation I ended up buying this on my Series X. I was pleasantly surprised at the length of it so far and the gameplay is typical to what I figured it would be. And you’re absolutely right every time I hear Will Arnette all I think of is Gob Bluth.
Hit me up for that loot
No melee 4 slots!
What's up Dantics!
no
Thank you. Agree about the weapon balancing issues. My game buddy and I been psyched for this game for awhile.
Definitely waiting out the Epic exclusivity and perhaps a sale. This year has had some pretty heavy hitters already
The intense difficulty doesn’t increase loot drops, it only increases the gold and moon orbs received.
3:17 after BL2 almost all the characters have been Flanderized. It's like the they lost the original writer(s) and just memberberry everything, like Star Wars.
@@GombySprangster ask TH-cam.
Just looking at the footage has me sold. Love tabletop games and I have tons of hours in the borderland games. Looks pretty unique.
Honestly, I'm ok with the reduced high-tier loot drops. One of the biggest issues I have with BL3 is the oversaturation of legendaries.
I feel you on the whole "you'll stick with a lower level gun because its better than newer one" In Borderlands 1 I ended up getting this long barrelled 2 shot revolver that was level 27 and out performed every weapon I got past that level then the same happened in borderlands 2 with the new tech guns, I ended up with a DAHL incendiary plasma caster SMG at level 29 and even when im maxed out on every level possible its out performing everything the game threw at me
Gonna be honest, was really looking forward to this game! Especially after the turd that was Borderlands 3 main campaign.
same. bl3 was extremely disappointing. this game seems like a return to form.
you missed out on those DLCs tho. thats where the good story telling went.
@@dracobellator1164 - The main story of BL3 was so bad to me that I'm still unwilling to buy the game just to play the DLCs. I'm really happy that they are releasing this game though and I've pre-ordered it! Can't wait to play it soon!
Come on, it's not THAT bad. It just isn't as good as BL2, but it has awesome moments and the best gameplay in the series. People just hating to hate these days.
@@snailgirl420 - It's not that. It's just that BL3 is not the only game in town. I can afford to skip it for other games with better stories.
Congrats on your new sonny Jim!
I wish the entire borderlands series just didn't have any dialogue
Considering how cringey it gets, don't blame you
It's a pity the direction they took after Borderlands 1
@@SadBnnuyTo this day idk what some people complain about. Some stuff is cringe inducing most of its just ridiculous and funny to me. I hated the main villains of 3 but all the side quest I enjoyed. Even Pre Sequel being way weaker in the jokes department I still liked the writing for jacks downfall into madness. I don’t get what everyone’s always mad about to be honest.
@@FarikoWishless some of the side quests for borderlands 2 were actually just downright brilliant, and the tiny tinas dlc was great. I even thought some of wonderlands side quests were pretty good too. borderlands 3 just has some horrid writing so bad it sours the rest of the series
@@braxtonwise9897 BL3 story had awful writing but side quest I felt was on par with a lot of BL2 he main story and characters like the twins and Ava were so fucking bad that it made people hate the game as a whole but for me side quest gameplay and systems as well as visuals and feel make it the most fun borderlands gameplay wise. Quest like Chad had me an my friend crying laughing brought back good memories of shit like face mcshooty
Ultimately I the class system feels like it brings micro variation, not macro; the fundamental gameplay loop is always the same, but every class specializes in a different aspect of said loop. *Especially* when you combine them.
For example I've got a "Hexecutioner" (Spellshot + Clawbringer) who's been built for elements & status effect damage; able to hit enemies with up to 3 types of damage simultaneously if played right, and watching the waterfall of numbers go.
You're the best, man! Please, keep your excellent work! Cheers from Brazil
I'm glad to see that a few things from Battleborn have managed to find life in Borderlands, like Orendi's shadowfire pillar.
This game looks fun as hell
Soooooo this game is basically BL2 Assault On Dragon's Keep, cracked up to 100%. I LOVE IT!
1000%*
@@kailomonkey That too
This game introduced me too Baby Metal so theirs that!
Nice lol tell me more please I like them a but. I started appreciating more when I learned a out the band behind them and their solo songs in the group
@@quarreneverett4767 well the band from what I’ve gathered is either on hiatus or has officially broken up seeing as one of the girls was unfortunately really sick . Additionally I’d recommend their song Pa Pa ya here’s the link th-cam.com/video/oO7Y8NsnkRg/w-d-xo.html
@@gamingforever9121 yeah one wa sick but they got replacements as they ar epart.of a large group of friends from a school to train stage presence and stuff a couple of the other members as far as the girls go are going to do other projects as well. The kami band the band behind them is a really good band if you see some of their solo performances at the concerts
@@quarreneverett4767 didn’t know that I love their music even if I can’t understand a word their saying being American and all Lol 😂
I’ve always liked claptrap, mainly just pre borderlands 3. The voice actor for him was a real Chad, dude took 0 payment for his work in the original because of budget reasons. Then still took no payment for 2, and the pre sequel.
NGL, if I had heard "Epic Game Store Exclusive" at the start, I would have immediately turned off the review.
Can't wait to give this one a gander. Thanks for the info Gman and congratulations on your new kid. Good stuff
Oh this one is a shooter afterall. Thought they might go to a more melee based system instead
I'm glad they didn't. There are already so many melee games out there. It's nice to have the Borderlands gameplay in a different setting that this game is in.
well that's because tiny tina explain that her story will have guns and explosions.
This actually looks more fun than the base Borderlands Games.
I really like the whole overworld aspect too, really gives the game more of an RPG feel.
I hope they do more of this!!
A friend recently gifted me a copy of BL3, so I'll DEFINITELY be picking up this DLC.
Love ya, Sonny Jim!!
It's not DLC
@@KaotikKnight it may as well be.
I knew it was coming, just had no idea what the release date was. Elden Ring took up most my gaming attention ever since it came out.
It’s not out yet; Friday
Elden Ring AKA the most overrated game ever
@@MalikATL your mom is overrated
@@MalikATL bait
Choosing your class makes a huge difference. They don’t all do the same thing, some are OP and others are way too underpowered. The class you choose definitely matters
Me and my brother are def gonna pick this one up when it releases on Steam. We had 600 good fun hours out of Borderlands 3.
Oh snap congrats on your new baby 🥳
A stallion by definition is male. This lets me know exactly where this game is at writing wise. I'm guessing it's the same as 3.
06:42 Wait a second. That looks 100% like Marcus Fenix from Gears of War 😂😍
I'll probably check it out in a year when it releases on PC.
You are a great creator and a even better video game critic, I watch every new vid!
Thanks for going into details about the class system, I remember playing Borderlands 2 and being unhappy with the character I picked, but I didn't want to restart with a new character so I kept going and didn't really have that much fun.
But seriously and more importantly, what color socks are you wearing Gman?
I started out playing two different vault hunters because I wasn't sure which to go with but after playing them both to level 14 or so, I was able to pick for sure which to go with for the rest of the game and I'm pretty happy with my choice! You should try replaying it again. Look up the videos about each vault hunter if you need to to pick the one that you will have the most fun with.
Man, these games are all so replayable. The fanbase has been replaying them with the same 4 characters each game for over a decade at this point. Restarting as a new character really is nothing, if you're not having fun with your current one, just switch. You'll be back where you are now in no time.
"...you've got swords, axes, bad dragons and hammers..."
Wait a minute...
I'm totally okay to wait for the Steam version like with Borderlands 3.
Fu Epic.
It’s day one on steam
@@oldman2470 Give me an official source of that statement.
@@xMaggostx We don't know if it's "day one" on Steam or not. Apparently in the Steam DB people found entries for either March 31st or April 30th for a release on Steam. Whether either of those are true, who knows? We may still have a 6-month Epic Store exclusive after all. Guess we will find out either tomorrow or in a month.
Wasnt entirely expecting you to enjoy the chaotic CHAOS that is loot and gear that lives within the borderlands series
I love all your reveiws buddies, i have already been enjoying this game myself:
But i needed to see your review on this. and i respect it
I feel as a LONG TIME Borderlands player some of the criticism and issues on a few features on the game often go over my head, even i have found some of the UI awkward in this run.
The Butt Stallion Buff you can find in the chaos chamber only says +3 Skill "sneak attack" and if you didnt remember the name over every node in the skill tree i originally had no idea what this did.
Aside from short DLCs, The game is AMAZING. I've been playing since release. Most amazing fact this game was developed almost entirely remotely from home during the peak Covid-19 pandemic. Great job GearBox!
Easy parry system, as you're about to be melee'd, melee them back, boom, stuns the enemy for a short time.
You could hear a sound like how in doom does for the Marauder (The glow eyes and the high pitched noise)
I haven't played it yet, but I can already tell it's better than Outriders.
I hope they delve more into the whole Character Customization, More Gear and Equip able Melees in the future for their Borderlands Series cause these are by far the most creative Gear Box has been sense BL2. Plus they just make the game more better and adds hella more variations
Gmen is a god i played the dlc and i loved it.
A Death Throw. Like A Death Saving Throw, cause in D&D you don't just die out right but there is such thing as actual Instant Death. Something that well exceeds a persons over all health pool. Secondary classing, hell yeah.
I was worried about this if it was going to be just a cash grab I quite enjoyed the dlc and was released not long ago as a stand alone for free
A death save is something you throw in d&d when your downed to get back up
Borderlands just doesn’t DO anything for me- whatsoever!! Gearbox is ass & I guess I loathe Randall Pitchford so much that I’m unable to enjoy his games knowing what he’s done in the past to get them out…. Maybe I can’t get over the debacle of the “7-7.5 game” Colonial Marines- I don’t know, but I’ve *NEVER* enjoyed Borderlands…. No matter how petty the reason, it’s not as petty as Pitchford ….I STILL don’t like Randy nor Gearbox.
Gearbox has still just failed to recapture the magic that was Borderlands 2. The only thing BL2 was missing was the ability to skip dialogue and cutscenes.
Here before gman changes the name to "tiny tina's wonderlands is ridiculous" or something similar
content creators gotta hone for those clicks.
Nvm he didnt change lmao
Nvm he changed it lmao
@@MK30005 What was the original title? Now it's "Tiny Tina's Wonderlands Review - More Than Just DLC"
I was there but forgotten already and we need a record ready for when it gets 'rdiculous' ;)
congrats on the Gson!!!
Great video Gman! Absolutely love your reviews, so in depth and informative. Thanks mate!
God dammit that writing was so unfunny that it began to suck the amusement from other jokes.
You’re so right about it basically being “reddit” the writing. All the “SupErduPerINo buddy!” And the sudden ADHD style loudly shouted word in an otherwise normal sentence made me cringe so hard that I turned inside out. It was pretty much xXrAndomPenguiNXx “check out my spoon!” Type bullshit throughout.
I uninstalled and refunded after like 30mins.
Would the new IP make a good entry point? Ive played some of every borderlands but always hit a skill barrier because everyone online has so much experience already
Yes but don’t play Three it was Gawd awful they kill off long standing characters and your involvement in the plot is minimal at best .
@@gamingforever9121 yeah that is the tip of the ice berg for that box of goodle brackles
@@gamingforever9121 3 is a great game mechanics wise but the story falls very short.
@@darkcarnival68 game mechanics are great story is ass simple as
The co-op in Borderlands is really fun when you're the one slightly ahead in levels, but really frustrating when you're a little behind in levels. I think you will find this in every game including this one. If it bores you I wouldn't bother, or try Assault on Dragon Keep first as it's cheaper and the same idea. Stand alone version of BL2 DLC.
22:11 That smg reload skill is straight up one of Orendi's skills from Battleborn.
I'm fine with it. They made Battleborn and it died before it even took off. So if they can salvage some of the cool shit from that game, it's better than it going to waste. Some of Battleborn looked really cool.
Personally... I think every FPS since UT 99 should have had a strafe double tap. Should have been a staple like double jumps in platformers.
While I generally turn it off, it’s a great option to have. Too bad it never got mainstream.
@@FlickTheBrick Out of curiosity, why do you turn it off? I love the double tap strafe. I would be so useful in any FPS, or even any third person games.
Not for realistic shooters or simulators though or really just any game that doesn't want to look completely goofy.
@@TheDarkblue57 Well, that's an animation complaint. Yes, the animation of the dodge is definitely exaggerated in UT99. Might directly translate to something like Fortnite, but yea... it would look stupid in Day Z. But dodging is a complete natural movement in real life, so it would be easy to make a realistic animation for those shooters. Granted, I get that it wouldn't be as effective, but even a dodge mechanic, would be useful.
I actually thought this was a DLC for BL3 somehow and it actually looks great.
"Seven- teen seas!" that joke got me good lmao.
Good writing? In a Borderlands game?
I don't believe a single word.
that was a good choice
I didn't enjoy most of borderlands 2. but the tiny tina campign felt fun the entire way trough.
When it comes to tina , i gues her character an aquired taste. yes, she's obnoxious, but the fun of the character is how volatile she is, and that is what made the DLC so fun. Tina just out of nothing will throw shit at you becuase it's fun. I wish the games played more with her mental instability, but by Bl3 she became more of a one note character. That's really sad, because there was some promise of character development for the end of Assault on Dragon's keep.
And you mentioned Claptrap, I hated it in BL 2. I felt bad for the mishaps of the first BL Claptrap But i wanted to strap BL2 Claptrap to a rocket and send it to the moon. He may be one of the reasons i never came back to this series. He's annoying, loud, and never shuts up.
It's a shame I find Borderlands to be the most annoying type of humor because gameplay always looks pretty good
One would expect Gearbox to adjust the sense of humor of the series. But the best point was the first game. Every game after went overboard with the loud and obnoxious. I wouldn't mind Tina if she was the only character like this, but even Scooter is incredibly annoying in the sequel, and he was very compelling in the first game.
i really don't mind the other stuff borderlands always does like jokes and stuff, i still love their gameplay and it's the most clusterfuck shooting compared to other games, thanks for the review Gman, i might check this game later
When you die in DND you make "death saving" rolls. 3 fails and you die, 3 successes and you get up at 1 hp
Actchually…. Haha on 3 successes you stabilise, but are basically still KO’d. It’s nat20s that heal you to 1hp
@@GreavesEc hard keeping them house rules straight sometimes
The way to describe this gameplay I've been watching throughout your review is best summed up by your mates, " I don't even know whats going in in the tornados but I know shits dying."
Your other mate: "Yeeah..."
Utter perfection. 🤣🤣
I wonder which character gonna die unceremoniously in this game? Gotta love Gearbox's 2010 meme culture writing mindset. At least, the gameplay is still addicting AF, I see.
Gman just spoiled it, so we already know. My GF also noticed that every time we see Tina playing B&B is after someone died, and apparently she has a point
@@IonMario94 I skipped ahead when Gman talked about story in this video.
@@Twofix I fucked up because I was working and had the review as background noise. At least I’ll play with my GF, so that will improve the experience
Crazy to think I use to watch “Hey Ash, Whatca’ playing?” when I was 13 to now playing her game.
They really done made a dlc into its own game and managed to make it good too. Mad respect.
nah see the did that with Tina's assault on dragons keep and it was crap.
This is a full fledged game on the same engine as BL3 theres a difference.
@@dracobellator1164 That’s literally what dude said.
It was originally going to be a DLC but got a full fledged release.
Kinda like SilkSong is to Hollowknight
Spellshot/Graveborn for my first level 40. Great review as always gman.
Wanda Sykes as a badass robot is something I never knew I needed but will never give up.
if only Wonderlands have randomly generated swords or medieval weapons too, that will be perfect