McLaren 570S Spider Review and Drive - The Supercar Bargain?
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- The McLaren 570S is now at the end of its production run. A replacement will be here soon, but this means there are some bargains to be had for those wanting a new supercar.
My friend James and his father both recently picked up brand new McLarens, and today I am driving James' 570S Spider.
#McLaren #570S #Spider
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Bought 570 GT new in 2017 . Put 7000 miles on it and I’m still in love ... can’t say that about my first wife 😂
Is it reliable ? Am thinking of trading my 2009 ferrari f430 coupe
Currently own a 570GT , only had one issue, the sponge inside the front off side tyre came lose causing a wheel wobble at 70 mph.
Apart from that no other issues.
I agree it’s probably to fast for the road , however I think the review could have gone into more detail about the driver settings , launch control, brake feel etc.
The 570 GT is the one to go for, looks the best designed of the sports series, slightly less focused, but unless you spend all the time on the track don’t bother.
I have tracked my 570 at Anglesey, it’s was awesome.
These McLaren’s were designed by ex Lotus engineers, hence the similar type driving experience , the 570 is like a Lotus on steroids.
I had the same issue with the left rear tire on the 570s. They did replace under warranty but the vibration was a bit alarming. I dont blame Mclaren for the tire although I am surprised they are still sold by Pirelli.
Had just one issue with my 570s, they had to replace a rear tire. 14k and loving it
Wow get ready for having more than one problem
@@Emira_75 i sold mine after 12 months not 1 problem, px for a 600 LT had for over 2 years no issues at all 😀👍
Wtf do yall do to afford these amazing cars..5 owners in 1 sub comment 😂
Excellent review and spot on. My 570S is an amazing car, and I also daily drive it.
That’s my dream car.
It’s my goal.
What would you do at my age (20) to achieve it?
Thanks
The world needs more people like you!
@@akeneagle3717 engineering field is probably a good idea, my bosses have car collections worth millions. No McLarens, but Ferraris, Maserati's, AMGs and Porsches. I don't think the McLaren is quite their tastes but there's no doubt they could afford them.
We do civil engineering, Surveying and geotechnical soil sampling.
i realize I am kind of off topic but does anyone know of a good site to watch new series online ?
@@akeneagle3717read the book ''think and grow rich'' Napoleon hill.
You cannot fail. It worked for me
I'm trying to justify binning my Peugeot 106 diesel for one of these but I just can't make a case for it....
Good honest review. Nearly bought a 570 last year. Quality and service a concern, after similar issues with an Aston I had. I've stuck with Ferrari for now.
Up to 54.4k and it's only a few weeks since you were passed 50k - shows you're doing something right. Jag and Morgan weeks were excellent (I'm not particularly a fan of either); looking forward to McLaren week.
Thanks Julian. Some interesting videos later this week for sure
Seems strange that a car company that was the brainchild of Ron OCD Dennis has such poor quality control.
He hasn't been there for a while. Might have something to do with it
Automotive production is notoriously difficult. McLaren have been in the mass production game for less than 10 years. It takes an awful lot of experience and know how to assemble cars to a high standard. The established manufacturers have the advantage of many years of experience.
Ferrari have been in the game for 60 years and they've only recently started screwing their cars together to a more acceptable standard.
Interesting, the one Mclaren which looks immaculate is the F1 but that was clearly a refined motorsport type product rather that a true production vehicle. If my lottery numbers came up the shonky looking build would really put me off.
@@richbiles230872 its not an entirely fair statement - yes a 1980s Ferrari was not the best assembled item, but then not were 1980s Jaguars, Rovers, Fords, Vauxhalls or Corvettes. The Germans and Japanese then were building up a reputation for quality but the trade off was they didnt have many exciting cars to compete with the Italians
Good video, much faster paced and more concise than the Jag SVR. thanks!
The 570 is probably the only one in the range I’d consider. Especially as it doesn’t generally suffer from the issues that some of the others in their line up do.
He seems to own a lot of cars that guy
Wait for Wednesday's video. You will laugh and laugh.
Yeah, I wonder why 🤔, a rough as chuff 'father & son' , very fishy...
Fuck knowing folk like that....🤢😱🤢
So out of breath
I’ve had mine since April and done 4000 miles. No real QoS issues at all. Totally agree about IRIS which is not overtly intuitive. Ride, handling and performance truely amazing on road and on track. Not sure why anyone needs more bhp. 🤔 This is what Lotus should have developed the Espirt into. Also have had similar window phantom down issue, but hey just close with switch 🤫. Exhaust is Ducati like, so just deal with it or buy acquire requisite burble via Ford F-150 pick up truck with ancient push rod engine 🤪
I wonder what's annoying about the start-stop? I have that in my Camry and I love it.
Epic video! Love it!
Out of the current line up, the 570s is the only one that interest me. The P1 is my dream car, though.
Ngl it's good you add that driving timestamp, even though I watch the whole thing it's still a nice touch =D
Love the back most on the 570
Brilliant review mate.
It is interesting, I have been looking at Ferrari 458's and love the car, but when you look many have very low milages and have often had 5 or 6 owners. Similar aged McLarens have often had one owner and have higher milages. This has started me looking at McLarens rather than the Italian cars. Clearly the ownership and drivability are better than the oposition.
Interested to hear your opinions as I’ve spent a fair while in a 540c
On track it made complete sense (grown up Lotus Evora) however on the road it almost felt to much of a car. What I mean by that is simply to quick for the road. The power is way to accessible and before I knew it I was breaking the speed limit and by some margin. Again car had very low miles but was delivered with issues 🤬
Wasn’t mine so wasn’t overly concerned.
I honestly feel that a well driven 650 LT would be almost unbeatable on a track like Brands, utterly blistering!
Again issues with quality.
I’d wait until you can get one for 50k then buy One and a 991 911 C2S for when it’s in the garage 🤪
What do you think of the paddle shifters being on the steering wheel like german manufacturers versus on the steering column in a fixed position? I have always preferred the Ferrari approach, but Mclaren are a little different... the toggle switch benefit and bigger paddles generally.
I like this paddle setup - both have their virtues
I really prefer the 570S both in looks and spec. The 720S is outrageously fast for road use... my Turbo S is already ridiculous and it competes in performance nicely with the 570 (but has AWD so is arguably easier to make use of the power). If I get a McLaren ever, it will likely not be the 720S imho.
My brother bought the 570S in white. While the steering wheel is correctly placed on other side for Germany, they forgot to reprogram the curb mirror assistant. Every time we park on the right side, the left mirror pans down to "help" :/
Classic McLaren
Like the camera work
Does he vacuum any of his cars? I drive the hell out of my McLaren and the interior and exterior are spotless. I just don't get it.
Some people are just slobs and haven't really earned to own such a car if you know what I mean.
Great vid Jay...really enjoyed it and love your honesty. Strange you didn't mention that the original 12C (upon which most/all McLarens are based) was designed by many of the same people who designed the VX220/Lotus Elise Mk2. The cars are meant to share similar design concepts...shame they also seem to share the iffy QC.🤔
Still..I've owned my VX220 from new in 2003...so they certainly know how to entertain you, even at mundane speeds.👍🏻
It might be mentioned in the 12C video coming out on Thursday ;)
JayEmm on Cars
I spoke too soon...Grandma knows how to suck eggs...sorry Grandma! 🤣
I drove the sport series twice, didn’t impress me much. Always thought a 570S would be the ideal car, affordable second hand (depreciation is a massive issues) or terrific leasing deal. But then I had the opportunity to drive one on my “home” track Bilster Berg for 40 minutes.
Electronics in standard setting are very intrusive, had to put it into track mode, otherwise it would kill any power as long as you are still having some steering angle dialled in. Front axle terrific, brakes sensational, engine very powerful (though a bit emotionless)... all good... but the very loose rear axle really destroyed the car for me. Difficult to control when driven 10/10ths, almost scary for an amateur like myself (and I am not too bad / slow / inexperienced). The instructors on the day confirmed my observations, 2019 models became a new rear axle kinematic that shall help, semi slicks seems to help, putting a wing on (now you can get it OEM) or a proper KW suspension also seem to mitigate the loose rear end.
Everybody who is more into McL tells me SuperSeries is superior by light years, eben a MP4 would be preferable over the Sport Series (except 600LT).
I agree with your assessment about the lively rear
I wonder how the 570GT compares to the new McLaren GT
Nice balanced review Jay, it's a crying shame Mcclaren still haven't got round to dealing with the quality assurance issues, I am amazed anyone buying this type of vehicle would tolerate that level of poor service at this price point. It really is not a difficult issue to resolve I would know...if they are not careful it is going to hold them back for years to come...
There's a video addressing this point in detail later this week
@@JayEmmOnCars I look forward to it... :-) so much has been written on the internet about this topic it might be novel to speak with Mclaren and ask them to comment on video, (interview) what they are practically doing to resolve it. Otherwise the issue never goes away. They probably won't comment for fear of fueling or acknowledging there ever was an issue, but that would be poor management judgement in a digital era. Give them a platform to voice the positive other side aspects of their practical program to improve things... instead of a one sided user experience.... To often the internet is all about the bad and not enough about the good and as we well know has a poor impact on social behaviour.
I thought the settings icon was for aircon!!
The upgraded stereo is actually really good. I have an SVR as well and I find its much better in the Mclaren. Adding a wing, Novitech in my case. Does significantly improve the profile and rear view of the car.
An SVR 😂
Says the guy who drives the beatdown Civic. @@Captainrave
Definitely needs a wing but the 570 is my favorite McLaren when looking at it from the front and the back
So what has better steering, the 12C, 650S, or 570S?
A peasant key for a peasant car...
A peasant car that costs £190k 🤣
1. Put your left foot in.
2. Fall down.
Got it! 😂
😂
I notice you have an Alfa SZ in the titles....have you reviewed one?
Yes
handmade cars minor isswues are easy fix. just a slight hinge adjustment. theres alot of parts to a car, there not volume mass produced there handmade
Wonder how these guys are getting on now. Must be 18m or more into ownership. Cheers Guys.
I am old enough to own an E type new when it came out. Fastest thing on the road and virtually nothing will touch it for about 5 years. However doors won’t shut, roof leaks, oil leaks everywhere and a synchromesh failure after 400 Miles. Remember the looks I had driving down kings road in London. Amazing feeling. I just think what you are saying in this video is nothing new. Only difference is it shed where it was built, a little more modern than Jaguar. Sold it a few years ago at auction for a handsome profit. Feel sorry for the sod who bought it. To be honest just a nice look pile of junk.
Is that not the British building way? Nicer materials, better performance, great ideas in a package built by people back from the pub. There are many British marks who should, for all possible reasons not fail and yet they do. Also customer service is a huge angle many seem to miss.
This car looks so odd without the rear wing. Funny how a couple of bodyparts on a 600LT especially the rear wing, makes it look 1000% better than a standard 570s.
I'm sure it's a nice car to drive, but you'd have to keep your eyes out of the cabin at all times. Those buttons, switches and screens look like things that belong in a Corsa, not a £200k supercar.
The poor quality control puts me off tbh. I would want something like this as a daily driver.
I am surprised. No mention of turbo lag??? Afaik Maccas have lot's and lot's to offer when it comes to turbo lag..
The car picks up well when in its happy place but below 3000 rpm it has nothing
@@JayEmmOnCars Just like my old Audi S3. ;-) To me that's turbo lag, at 5000rpm they usually react quite well.
I don't think anyone is buying these at £190k when you can get a 2019 model for £50k less than that. Or better, there are many of these on the market at around £110k and at that price it is a lot of value.
£190k is the list price, NOT the price paid.
.. and this is addressed in the video
Anyone who paid almost £200k for one of those stands to lose £100k of that in the first year! There are new cars with better specs sitting on dealer forecourts right now for just over £120k That's what you call depreciation!
Mate, You were wrong. The McLaren 570s are going to record prices in the US, as they should.
Nice one , bit more positive,
ha ha I've got the urge back .
good god! those leaves... the complaints about build quality are falling on deaf ears.
the 12 c is a supercar bargain
What do you have against Pirellis?
They just dont last, or have the window of ability of a Michelin
you can't drive on Pirelli's reliably in England ..nor in the upper half of the U.S. for that matter ... they are a warm weather tire, period
At 17:40 I just bought an Audi R8 Performance Spyder.
I don't know what's up with McLaren but their cars simply don't inspire regardless of how good people say they are I think they are just too clinical they lack the sort of drama a car of this category should have
decent review ....
Reliability and parts and repair cost ?
Wait for Wednesday
McLaren cars like all other car manufacturers come with a warranty , it would be crazy to own one of these and not have a warranty.
Mines been reliable apart from a foam insert in the tyre coming loose , McLaren transported the car back to the dealership, tyre replaced , sorted.
570S are awesome until you get behind the wheel of the super series cars. They are much more exciting in the way the turbos come on boost than this car in my experience. Great video man
Great channel, you should do some cardio though, in a lot of your videos it feels like you're jogging while talking us through the car.
Idiotic comment. Jay speaks without any extra takes/splicing. He also gives alot of info and speaks quickly. Anyone would get winded. Think before you comment
Hey, ever thought of getting an ECG James?
No it's not the latest supercar lol, i just seem to notice in your last few videos you sound like you ran a marathon first.
I have had many ECGs this year. Surprisingly, I'm fine
I'm very pleased to hear it James, i enjoy your work.
Once you know the controls it's not an issue. First world problems really...
Both doors and wonky and you'd think that he'd have given it a quick vacuum at least.
Just want to add to my earlier comment and counter your statement on brakes- total guff chap. I’ve done plenty of track days on fast tracks like Thruxton and Castle Combe... they are totally fine and buckets of pad depth left. You give the impression that they are made from ice cream cone material... 🤔
That's because that is the impression I got from the 570 owner who had to replace his after two track days. Perhaps McLaren changed something? It does happen.
I have also found for tyre and brake wear there is a world of difference between 95% attack and 99%
JayEmm on Cars ..it’s difficult to say as I don’t know his driving style 🤓 . If his is like my wife’s (binary “on verses off” 😩) then perhaps, but real speed is about maintaining momentum. The 570 is not a heavy car when compared against likes of say a DB9 I once had, and to be fair my (uber light) Lotus 2-11 ate pads much quicker than I had anticipated... however I was taking that around much more tight and twisting track layouts. It just seems a criticism that’s not seen a lot of press elsewhere or has been made by other owners... particularly since carbon ceramics are specifically designed for high intensity use anyway. Ho hum. Glad to see you are back in action post Covid lock down and enjoy the 550 😍... but do start saving in the maintenance piggy bank for her 😉
@@jonathancollard3710 Saving already begun for the 550!
To be honest, re McLaren brakes, wearing fast on track wouldn't be unusual. I have known Hondas, Audis, etc... to all eat through ceramics in heavy use. A lot of track day companies or car rental firms use steels for their greater longevity, and sometimes easier pedal feel (but McLaren got that perfect)
You’d think they’d make doors fit for 200k
570s are an awesome car. Still think Ferrari has the edge. PS - need some more Lotus content.
@Jay Leno That's not how we pluralize, now, is it?
@@rickc2102 "Pluralize" isn't how we pluralise, now, is it?!
When England has a noteworthy GDP, it can start telling me how to spell, thankyouverymuch.
There's a lot of Lotus content in the back catalogue, and I will get more on the channel but not until the new year
Mclaren smartly decided to stay with hydraulic power steering. Ferrari still feels more special interior and engine wise but the 488 starts at $60k+ more than this car and ends up at 720S levels with options. The Mclaren has much better feedback through the wheel
If you are going to make a comparison involving the 911 turbo, why not also include the Nissan GTR?
I think for many the GTR would not be a valid comparison because it's not premium enough - the McLaren and 911 are both double the money!
@@JayEmmOnCars I suppose I understand the reasoning, but the GTR can keep up with at least the 911 turbo. Makes you wonder why Nissan can charge so much less.
@@mattevans4377
There's a good video on the running costs of a (previously unmaintaned) GTR on Jay's channel. As far as I remember, it was quite something (although a Porsche Turbo may not be cheaper).
Lol just sit inside both cars and you’ll see why the Nissan costs less money
@@SenszR I guess so. But if you could only afford the Nissan, would you really say no to it's performance?
Nice car, but the build quality is shocking. When they are 5 years old they will be like running a TVR. But more expensive.
Wait for Wednesday's video
Thorney need to rewrite their website. It's as though it's been written by a 10 year old. For a start, it's 'McLaren' not 'Mclaren'. This is the brand they specialise in!
With a name like that I hope your mate avoids Porsche’s.
lol
@90k secondhand with minimal mileage, I’d put up with a few niggles and save £100k I don’t have 👍👍
Yep that’s exactly what I did 👍
Brent a wise man ! Got to be the best £ for lb car on the market at the moment i can only see values going up when everybody else relies , just an epic car 👍👍
TACADO1 👍 bought mine Feb this year , ex Woking car it has every carbon option available inside and out, it had 5k on the clock, list price was 210k 😳 , as you say value for money it’s bang on 👍
It looks like a snow button
For the price you can pick these up now... absolute bargains (when they work)
are they as unreliable as the MP4-12c??
John Matthews I don’t honestly know - but from experience 570s have some very annoying issues such a no key detected etc
@@itsjoel unreliability is deliberate ; it adds character
@@TheMentalblockrock No, much more reliable. Moreso than a 720, 650, or 12c.
Sounds as if you've been getting after the blow again, friendo. Poor choice of rec subs.
Nothing quite so exotic, just garden variety hayfever
Peruvian allergies
I do have a soft spot for mclaren and i would pick it over its rivals
Watched 2 mins of this video and booked an appointment at the opticians.... can’t focus. Oh wait... it’s the camera 🎥
The back end of 570S and 570GT looks like someone squinting.
Please don't hit me after you saw it.
The interior looks like a Peugeot
What Peugeots have you been driving
@@visionist7 The one that has an interior like that McLaren. Happy Christmas. Inshallah, you will not be on Allah's naughty list.
Anyone else watching this after entering to win one on Dream Car Giveaways!?
Oh my gosh, what utter cr@p. Is this the same car from the McLaren Manchester debacle?
Yes
'The burger icon' pleaseeeeeeee
That *is* what it's called.
Hamburger menu ☰
Meatball menu is the three dots in a row ⋯
Three dots vertically is a kebab ⋮
When those lines get shorter it can be known as a doner menu, but I think that is less common.
Bonus fact: The hamburger menu is actually a Chinese trigram for 'heaven'.
Not sure what they use on mobile navigations over there.
There is a reason why this supercar is cheap, the feedback from owners are conclusive, profoundly unreliable. R8 please and some change.
I spoke to a few McLaren owners (and more often former owners!) before buying my Evora 400, as was tempted by a 12C and it was rare I found anyone with much positive to say about the ownership experience. One suggested if I bought a 12C without warranty for £80k or so I'd be wise to set aside about the same again if I wanted to run it for 3 years and do any kind of mileage in it!
McLaren are fast getting a reputation for shoddy build quality. The 12c was awful and so it seems is this....
Wait for Friday's video...
I like the interiors of McLarens - a lot less fussy than many. Not a fan of the exteriors, though - the opposite. Overall shape is a bit bland and it seems like they're trying to compensate for that with a weird front and a rear that looks like an alien's face.
Other manufacturers are now catching them up in the 'bland exhaust note' stakes.
This is honestly Hilarious,
The 570s is WAY better looking than the 720s I don't care what you have to say,
Its performance is unmatched for the price.
I don't know why you would even bother making this video,
All you've done is knock this car..
MMMmmmmmm
Edited
Your opinion has been noted.
@@JayEmmOnCars I've edited original comment now..not trying to be a smart arse or get likes ..genuinely love this channel and want it to continue.
@@dagnut I know, seen you commenting on here before. You really needn't worry about me.
This guy is breathing wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy to rough! 🤣🤣😂😂
Dominique Sims I think he needs to do some exercise and lose some weight
Terrible quality control. Should never have left the factory.
Get in shape dude
It's a performer but not a looker. How can you say a Porsche 911 not a super car? I think any car that is over 100k is a super car.
Ah you may think that but you would be wrong. An M5 is not a super car. A 7 series is not a super car.
OK. I've seen the video and I realise there is no point in being rich. I will give up now and keep my old cheap Ferrari.
Might have been better to catch your breath first 😂
Exactly
you just came from a marathon? why you breathing so heavily?
Bargin if you want a piece of shit that is down more than it runs. After 60,000 miles forget it.
You sound permanently out of breath.....
They all do that sir
I've said it before and I'll say it again, McLaren's sound shite!
What an ostentatious , ridiculous & Vulgar machine 💯 🤣😂🤣
Nothing worse than ' New money '💸
Utterly tasteless and impractical as a
' daily driver'
Screams " I've won the rollover / drug dealer". 💰 💩💰🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮💩💰
Crap review.....