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I think you conveniently forgot some of the character here. Like Gallagher, where is my girl Firefly, where is my eminator Archeron, and most importantly of all, where is my boy Adventurine. He off himself for nothing now. 😢😢😢
@@recentmap7268 Not every character lines up with something in the story enough to make it into the video. BUT Gallagher has some STROOOOOONG Michael Afton parallels.
Ok, here me out, Doesn't that mean that firefly/sam is a parallel to glamrock freddy? First firefly dies to a creature of nightmare, she is also friend we meet at the very start of the penacony quest, meanwhile glamrock freddy is again, a friend we meet at the start of Security breach, and in the true ending he is torn apart by a group of security bots, and they both SURVIVE their deaths as well, firefly is revealed to be sam, and freddy is... Sort of alive as we see in the Security Breach DLC in a wrecked form, and both the SAM suit and glamrock Freddy can contain and keep someone safe. other than that there are no other parallels I can think of.
My little kid ass theorizing about fnaf lore in 2014 could not imagine that 10 years later I would be listening to how fnaf's lore is related to a goofy anime space train game. It's so crazy how these stories are actually so similar to each other. I also feel like Gallagher could be tied in here somehow too, because his character is also, idk, fnaf-coded if you can say that. Maybe Mike? There are some parallels, but I'm not really sure.
Mhm you're not the first person to say Gallagher is similar to mike in some ways. I mean they're both a security guard, both use a fake name, a handful of other things. It's pretty cool!
based on the thumbnail i thought this would be a parody video, only to get a genuinely fun comparison of these franchises? great video! hilariously enough i had some similar thoughts when it comes to gopher wood/william afton parallels bc i kept thinking "wow... a guy who appears as a signature animal who has a bunch of red flags every time he interacts with children???? crazy. that reminds me of someone."
Start of the vid: You had to review the FNAF lore? I'm so sorry for your loss. End of video: This video was absolutely fascinating. So cool to see the cogs turning as the video continued onward. Also small note, glad to see someone else sharing my hyper specific form or reliving childhood with Technoblade and Game Theory. Anyways great video as always. Keep up the great work.
Maybe there is a parallel between Galagher and Michael Afton? They are both a big bro figures who scared the people(Michael is... you know,FIGURES HOW HE DID IT,while Gallagher refers to himself as a little terror),and they both feel guilty for betraying their families,Gallagher betrayed Watchmaker and Michael- his father,by not doing his "big bro duty" of watching PROPERLY for his lil brother. P.S. Just saw a shorts,I SWEAR i did not see it beforehand😂
Alt comment: honestly what I think the intro shouldve been: "Ok, so the first night is never usually that bad in any of the games, so I'll play throu-"
That was an amazingly entertaining video!! It's not enough to convince me that it's intentional (mostly because it just feels unlikely that a bunch of the chinese writers at hoyoverse are big enough fnaf heads to know its extremely convoluted lore + the connections are a bit rocky). Either way it was a very good video!!!
I got no idea about the Penacony's similarities to fnaf, but in 1.6 Ruan Mei's request reminded me a little about Five Night's at Freddy's Sister Location, as in both you go down to a creepy place, sent there by a mad scientist, creepy place where his/her creations are hostile to you, and in the end the big guy reveals itself, being stronger than the mc.
Oooo that's a good point - that's kinda cool! Also, the idea in yunli's character quest (spoiler if you haven't played it yet) of living metal made by infusing a sword with a heliobi? Sounds just like remnant.
Wait, one thing came out of my mind: Gallagher, the History Fictiologist... Somehow connected with Scott Cawthon, the owner of FNAF franchise, that also can be a "storyteller" History Fictiologist can manipulate story of a history, stuffing not actual canon character into historical timeline, to tell the "vibe" of story. Just like Scott, putting himself into few of his story creation, *to tell the story*
LOOK MOM IM ON TV AGAIN 17:23 But in all seriousness, this video was super fun to watch. Keep up the amazing work bud! I'm really excited for the IPC video too! >:D
I am going to have to keep you away from the games I make, the level of effort you put into these are insane Mae. Keep up the great work, can't wait for the next one!
I can totally see the parallel of the 2 stories simply from the fact that I can't wrap my blockhead around the lore of neither FNAF and penacony (insert teriderp here)
People in the comments are really underselling the influence FNAF has. While i get the jokes about muh complicated fnaf lore, when you really get down to it, it is just a tale about pride and letting go. Some rando hot chicks on a train game taking inspiration from it is nothing otherworldly
See, you get it! I feel like FNAF as if it's JUST a little-known indie game that gained a few fans and fail to realize - this is a (multi)cultural phenomenon at this point. It's difficult to find someone who hasn't at least //heard// of FNAF even outside the gaming sphere. Another major video game taking some level of inspiration from it is almost expected.
Regarding happy endings While pizza sim's seems sad when you remember that Henry is the only living person there who isn't a ghost or flesh zombie it looks alot happier knowing everyone minus the scumbag finally get their rest
Maybe it is the direct comparison that made me realize it, but these videos honestly give me the feeling of watching game theory growing up. Amazing job
One small thing regarding fnaf lore - Glitchtrap is not William Afton who came back, but The Mimic, an AI program, who learnt what happened back in Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and decided to "mimic" Afton's behaviour. Though you may still have said that, I'm still watching the video lol
I purposefully didn't talk much about the mimic. I do know Glitchtrap isn't exactly William Afton, but I'm not convinced it's the mimic either, although I do know that's one of the prevalent theories. I'm excited to see what the new mimic game has to say about it.
Veteran FNAF Fan from Day 01 and HSR Player, yes some parts of the story of Penacony does have similar characteristics from the very complicated FNaF Storyline Great Video! ❤
Would Gallagher be similar to Michael then? In the sense of betraying Gopher Wood to make sure Mikhail's plan work in the end? Changing himself in the process into an undead enigma that only survive until this plan's completion. He also has some friendly relationship with Misha, but it's not truly brotherly😅
See I was first thinking Galagher=Mimic (because Gallagher is very frustrating to work with when theorizing and I don't particularly like him) but THAT makes a lot more sense, and I like it.
fun theory i made is that honkai star rail could be taking inspiration of doctor who because firefly could be the doctor because they both are presumably the last of their species because of a war between her species ( the time lords / the glamoth empire ) and another species that does not want to die and always multiplies ( daleks / the swarm ) but also because she travels in space and his in a group that treads finality so time sort of and the doctor travels in time and space.
They definitely took inspiration from a LOT of different places for Penacony - Alice in Wonderland, Pinocchio, that one evangelion thing, it's just a WHOLE BUNCH of different stories put together.
the title was definitely surprising, esp because I didn’t know which part of fnaf it was but the longer the video went on the more and more it made sense 😭
elden ring shadow of the erdtree endgame spoilers in coming - - - - - You would not believe my face when I found out that the final boss of that DLC was doing a full Sunday, would love to see someone make a video along these lines with that
I love your videos and I love your style of editing. I've been laughing for 5 minutes at the "uncle Will has officially been uninvited from the barbecue" which, fair, i would uninvite him too. Especially since APPARENTLY fire doesn't work on that motherfudger.
im in too deep when it comes to fnaf lore, sor a few times i was like "a few theories are unsure if that's true anymore" but like that's not a serious critique, i'm just terminally online when it comes to fnaf and its lore developments lol great vid!
I literally would joke about how Sunday got Freddy Fazbear'd into Dominicus because how else was he operating that thing beyond soul stuff. Oh boy I'm excited to watch this
THIS IS SO COOL !! I love this so much there is so much crossover potential 🥺🥺 I'm not too wellversed on gallagher or fnaf book lore,, but is it possible he's comparable to the 'blob'? a culmination of multiple consciousnesses melded together with agony/memoria (???) that formed from the destruction of the past family members/animatronics...? maybe...? just a thought! I thought gallagher should be worked into there somehow since he's kinda important
See, I like that, but he actually is a LOT closer to Michael Afton. I made a short about it here - th-cam.com/users/shortsbG-69qTnDbo?si=6x1lffGs62Ro4iuM
Ok, here me out, Doesn't that mean that firefly/sam is a parallel to glamrock freddy? First firefly dies to a creature of nightmare, she is also a friend we meet at the very start of the penacony quest, meanwhile glamrock freddy is again, a friend we meet at the start of Security breach, and in the true ending he is torn apart by a group of security bots, and they both SURVIVE their deaths as well, firefly is revealed to be sam, and freddy is... Sort of alive as we see in the Security Breach DLC in a wrecked form, and both the SAM suit and glamrock Freddy can contain and keep someone safe. other than that there are no other parallels I can think of.
That's really good! I actually made a short about Gallagher being similar to michael afton, and had a breakdown over Sparkle/mimic parallels, but this one works too!
@@iamemamaeI did have an insane theory before that Acheron and black swan were both parallels to sun and moon from SB as well, but even to ME that just sounds like pure nonsense.
I think Gallagher is (tentatively) the Mimic. I was going to talk about him, but if I'm honest, I don't know enough about the Mimic to draw the kind of parallels I need to for this.
i watched this thinking it was a joke and oh my god you are ON TO SOMETHING!! especially with vanny/sunday and william/gopher wood, since gopher wood very obviously manipulates sunday into doing his deeds for him, "clipping" his wings.
There's certainly parallels and it's interesting to see your takes. Overall i think this is a solid argument for the sake of fun. Now as someone that fell into the lore of FNAF (as someone that never cared too much about the games but finds the piecing together of the story fascinating) there are a couple holes (?) in the theory. The FNAF lore is so all over the place with multiple timelines that it was interesting seeing you take things from the Books, Movie and games to make your points since the information doesn't necessarily cross over. Not to mention from endings that aren't generally considered cannon lol. Not that it matters much since as you said you did your own take on FNAF lore and this is more looking at the general feel of the plot points rather then a direct retelling. Not to mention all of this is silly fun. This was a great video to watch.
I have so many thoughts about FNAF lore. I think in some areas it is unsolvable, but there's some ways through it that make a reasonable level of sense (the same amount of sense as most stories these days - plot holes and all). I'll probably make an actual pure FNAF video at some point. I have so many thoughts about the Puppet and the Crying child. I think there's a connection there that no one's yet talked about, but it explains a few things.
Would Ena be The Mimic then? Cuz Gopher Wood = William is to Dream Master = Glitch trap Then Mimic = Ena Mimic revealed to be disguised as Gregory in SB:Ruin after Henry Burned Pizzaria with the other Animatronics Ena revealed to be with Xipe (Or disguised as Harmony as Ena is Assimilated by Kipe) After the Charmony Festival Which is Pizzaria Burn = Charmony Festival Mimic influences the pizzaplex through Glitch Trap (Cuz Glitchtrap is Mimic Virus, referring to Mimic pretended to be Circus Baby Theory and how the Chip from Night 5 contains Mmic Virus and Mimic Copies William and so Glitch Trap controls Vanny) While Ena influences Penacony through Dream Master (Dream Master is a follower of Order, which means He copies Order, tho kinda swapped, Ena Being Part of Harmony = Mimic Pretending to be Circus Baby, and so Dream Master controls Sunday) So, Xipe = Circus Baby Milkhail is devoted to harmony as Henry is to Circus baby Both got used by Ena/Mimic to hide and influence other (Ena influence Dream Master and Sunday and Mimic through the VR to Glitch Trap and Vanny) To support the Mimic's Part Here Mimic hid in Circus Baby, Before leaving Circus Baby asked you to get some Chip at Night 5, which got uploaded in the FNAF HW, in one the Tape Girl's Recording they use some Scraps and parts to upload in the VR, it's possible that Circus Baby Chip is one of those
Ain’t no way I’m actually engaging in FNAF lore via HSR - you are literally THE hsr theorist of the century and I have no doubts about this. Also, what’s your thoughts on 2.4 and are you going to make a video on the ten stonehearts, by chance??
thank you so much! I'll be playing 2.4 on stream on thursday most likely :) And my next video about the IPC will include some info about the stonehearts. Don't you worry :)
Yea, after the mccoy mission, it becomes clear that when gallagher said the sweet dream was powered by peoples lives, it didnt just mean figuratively, but literally aswell. 0n0
So like Gopher Wood kinda had the same idea as Dr. Octopus, using the power of a star to power something (a city in Spiderman / the dream scape) maybe not the most comparable things, but still... I thought I'd share :/ ALSO! the video was/is really entertaining, and a fun watch!! :)
I think i said this on the last fnaf/penacony theory video, but i can't wait for the FNAF planet update in hsr and I can pull for anime boy william afton
@@iamemamae crack theory, each new planet/world in hsr will be retellings of mascot horror games/other games in general. not any real evidence to prove this, just going off of vibes but they're strong vibes
@@iamemamae just wanna let you know that last night I had to pull an all nighter to finish my computer science final project. I knew I had to lock in so i took 40mg of my adderall at around 2AM and I'm pretty sure I ended up listening to this video on loop for most of the night as background noise while I worked. so yea this was a good video
I have a theory that he's actually very much like Mike, BUT if you can believe dual process theory's theory about Mike BEING the vengeful spirit, then it makes little difference XD I love it!
@@iamemamae damn at first I thought about it as a joke but now I start to really see it what are you doing with me😭 fnaf pleeeease release me I'm tired of all of this theorizing and thinking 😭
19:20 Hey, there's only one problem with this theory. Black Swan CAN manifest in real life. At the end of 2.3 she appears on the express so... she definitely cannot be like Misha. Though that's a nice theory anyway!
That specific point isn't a theory. It's canon. All Memokeepers are memetic entities. Becoming a memokeeper requires them to give up their physical body. However, they're much more powerful than the kind of memetic entities created by memory projection.
YOU TOTALLY SHOULD! I recommend Star Rail first as HI3 has been around for a LONG time and the story is a bit more difficult to keep up with, but Star rail really helped me understand some of HI3, cause a lot of the characters between the two games are variants of each other.
technically if nothing is known in the fnaf universe, making it unknown, and in your Missing Nameless video about razzalina saying that gallagher himself/itself is the unknown... does that make gallagher the entirely of fnaf? maybe the reason fnafs timeline is messed up is because of him LMAO
Almost every connection you've made between the two games is actually a generic story convention. Writers tend to pick and choose various pervasive story elements and rearrange them into something unique. Both Batman and Spiderman wear a costume to conceal thier identity, fight crime, are rocket scientist levels of smart, have a wacky; chaotic archnemesis, and draw thier motivation from the trauma of losing the people closest to them. But no one would call them the same character.
Mmm I actually very much disagree. I can think of a couple places where there's a Dreamaster/Afton as well as a Golden Freddy/Clockie character in other media, but none of these are really THAT common (definitely not as common as superheroes). And even if I'm mistaken, and I just don't know of the places you've seen them before because we run in different circles as far as the stories we consume, even then, if the similarities between FNAF and Penacony was limited to a handful of similarities between a few characters, I wouldn't have bothered making the video. But we're talking 30+ parallel plot and character beats across eight different characters, the relationships between the parallel characters being almost exactly the same, STRONG thematic similarities, etc. And I've even found a couple more since making this video. You would be totally right if it were just one or two things that just kinda ended up mildly close to each other. But when you have this many things across this many story elements, they start adding up.
Ugh, fine. This video has appeared for a third time on my feed. I will indulge. Edit after watching: Okay, to me it seems that it’s just corellation. Two stories with horror themes that sell themselves with the many characters (mostly ensemble casts, compared to single or duo performances like Prey). The opposing twins, or the evil buisness partner, those are staple clichés. Now it doesn’t change the fact that the simmilarities exist and are really friggin’ funny. And the video is entertaining. I just don’t see the causal chain between FNAF and HSR’s Penacony arc.
@@iamemamae I have edited my comment. While I am opposed to framing the two stories as identical, or even exceedingly similar, I will willingly admit that the parallels between the two are amusing. If I was to compare the two plotlines, I’d pivot more towards the shared roots in horror and thriller tropes, including oneric scenes, characters with alter-egos (be it a sibling or an internal split personality) and more. TL;DR: Great video. I disagree with the specific premise, but it is a thought-inspiring piece of content. Also please “How 2.4’s main quest deals with trauma” video.
You know, if the crying child = mike theory is true (which it's not), then it would just make your point of misha being the crying child even more powerful
@@iamemamae Oh no. Don't worry, if you know Sans from Undertale, Deltarune is like Undertale 2 but in alternate universe. I recommend to play both cuz the story is mindblowing, and HSR seemingly took inspiration from those games. heck, Sampo is HSR Sans for me.
I'm like 70% certain that was a different planet. I think the name of their homeworld is actually stated somewhere but I don't know off the top of my head.
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I think you conveniently forgot some of the character here. Like Gallagher, where is my girl Firefly, where is my eminator Archeron, and most importantly of all, where is my boy Adventurine. He off himself for nothing now. 😢😢😢
@@recentmap7268 Not every character lines up with something in the story enough to make it into the video. BUT Gallagher has some STROOOOOONG Michael Afton parallels.
Ok, here me out, Doesn't that mean that firefly/sam is a parallel to glamrock freddy? First firefly dies to a creature of nightmare, she is also friend we meet at the very start of the penacony quest, meanwhile glamrock freddy is again, a friend we meet at the start of Security breach, and in the true ending he is torn apart by a group of security bots, and they both SURVIVE their deaths as well, firefly is revealed to be sam, and freddy is... Sort of alive as we see in the Security Breach DLC in a wrecked form, and both the SAM suit and glamrock Freddy can contain and keep someone safe. other than that there are no other parallels I can think of.
I love when Clockie goes "har har har har har, har har har har har"
Yeah, and just before Trairblazer said: "O cholera, czy to Clockie?"
My little kid ass theorizing about fnaf lore in 2014 could not imagine that 10 years later I would be listening to how fnaf's lore is related to a goofy anime space train game.
It's so crazy how these stories are actually so similar to each other.
I also feel like Gallagher could be tied in here somehow too, because his character is also, idk, fnaf-coded if you can say that. Maybe Mike? There are some parallels, but I'm not really sure.
Mhm you're not the first person to say Gallagher is similar to mike in some ways. I mean they're both a security guard, both use a fake name, a handful of other things. It's pretty cool!
Same (i love both)
Seeing the Title has me confused but watching it, I can see it and it weirdly makes sense, great video! 💜
IT MAKES NO SENSE UNTIL THE EXPLANAITON BEGINS BUT THEN ITS LIKe....WHATTTTT?
@@iamemamaeI literally can't react to this video I'm in complete shock...
@@danielc.b6347 THATS WHAT IM SAYIN
"And That's Not Just A Theory. A GAME THEORY"
A gacha theory
The line "clockie is golden Freddy" isn't one I expected to hear in my lifetime, but it's certainly a line 😂
See, anyone can say something wild like "Clockie is Golden Freddy" but it takes a TRUE madman to make it make sense :)
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based on the thumbnail i thought this would be a parody video, only to get a genuinely fun comparison of these franchises? great video! hilariously enough i had some similar thoughts when it comes to gopher wood/william afton parallels bc i kept thinking "wow... a guy who appears as a signature animal who has a bunch of red flags every time he interacts with children???? crazy. that reminds me of someone."
Oh yeah, for not having much screentime, they really set Dreammaster up well as an Aftion-esque character.
As a FNAF lore geek who has been following the lore for years (since FNAF 4) I think I had a minor stroke.
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LITERALLY
Start of the vid: You had to review the FNAF lore? I'm so sorry for your loss.
End of video: This video was absolutely fascinating. So cool to see the cogs turning as the video continued onward. Also small note, glad to see someone else sharing my hyper specific form or reliving childhood with Technoblade and Game Theory. Anyways great video as always. Keep up the great work.
I love any excuse to rewatch game theory. I'm so glad you enjoyed!
WHEN YOUR WORLDS COLLIDE WHAT?!?!?!!
Maybe there is a parallel between Galagher and Michael Afton?
They are both a big bro figures who scared the people(Michael is... you know,FIGURES HOW HE DID IT,while Gallagher refers to himself as a little terror),and they both feel guilty for betraying their families,Gallagher betrayed Watchmaker and Michael- his father,by not doing his "big bro duty" of watching PROPERLY for his lil brother.
P.S. Just saw a shorts,I SWEAR i did not see it beforehand😂
I was about to give you the link XD But yeah - spot on!
Alt comment: honestly what I think the intro shouldve been:
"Ok, so the first night is never usually that bad in any of the games, so I'll play throu-"
That was an amazingly entertaining video!! It's not enough to convince me that it's intentional (mostly because it just feels unlikely that a bunch of the chinese writers at hoyoverse are big enough fnaf heads to know its extremely convoluted lore + the connections are a bit rocky). Either way it was a very good video!!!
fair enough XD I'm glad you enjoyed it :)
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I got no idea about the Penacony's similarities to fnaf, but in 1.6 Ruan Mei's request reminded me a little about Five Night's at Freddy's Sister Location, as in both you go down to a creepy place, sent there by a mad scientist, creepy place where his/her creations are hostile to you, and in the end the big guy reveals itself, being stronger than the mc.
Oooo that's a good point - that's kinda cool! Also, the idea in yunli's character quest (spoiler if you haven't played it yet) of living metal made by infusing a sword with a heliobi? Sounds just like remnant.
Wait, one thing came out of my mind:
Gallagher, the History Fictiologist... Somehow connected with Scott Cawthon, the owner of FNAF franchise, that also can be a "storyteller"
History Fictiologist can manipulate story of a history, stuffing not actual canon character into historical timeline, to tell the "vibe" of story. Just like Scott, putting himself into few of his story creation, *to tell the story*
ooooo there's a thought XD I love it!
i feel like a lot of these comparisons are just common story beats or coincidences but still very entertaining video.
Fair, but for them to be THAT similar (we're talking 30+ similarities across 7 different characters). It's crazy
LOOK MOM IM ON TV AGAIN 17:23
But in all seriousness, this video was super fun to watch. Keep up the amazing work bud! I'm really excited for the IPC video too! >:D
Thanks, Raf! I'm so glad you liked it!!!
I am going to have to keep you away from the games I make, the level of effort you put into these are insane Mae. Keep up the great work, can't wait for the next one!
Thank you, Alex!!!
this is the most insane video crossover i have ever seen. im so obsessed with this
“What the fuck”
-Hoyoverse
6:50 I CAN SEE THAT DUAL PROCESS THEORY REFERENCE
no no no you don't understand - that's something that I've thought for a LONG TIME, but they also confirmed it.
@@iamemamae i mean the bunny hops thing xd
OH YEAH I DID DO THAT XD XD XD
I can totally see the parallel of the 2 stories simply from the fact that I can't wrap my blockhead around the lore of neither FNAF and penacony (insert teriderp here)
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People in the comments are really underselling the influence FNAF has. While i get the jokes about muh complicated fnaf lore, when you really get down to it, it is just a tale about pride and letting go.
Some rando hot chicks on a train game taking inspiration from it is nothing otherworldly
See, you get it! I feel like FNAF as if it's JUST a little-known indie game that gained a few fans and fail to realize - this is a (multi)cultural phenomenon at this point. It's difficult to find someone who hasn't at least //heard// of FNAF even outside the gaming sphere. Another major video game taking some level of inspiration from it is almost expected.
Regarding happy endings
While pizza sim's seems sad when you remember that Henry is the only living person there who isn't a ghost or flesh zombie it looks alot happier knowing everyone minus the scumbag finally get their rest
* reads title & thumbnail * my interest has been piqued
I have a friend that's not into Star Rail but is into FNAF and another friend into Star Rail but not FNAF, can't wait to show this to both of them.
Maybe it is the direct comparison that made me realize it, but these videos honestly give me the feeling of watching game theory growing up. Amazing job
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it!
"feel free to critique me, just please don't mangle me" pffft hahaha, excellently done. Awesome analysis, very entertaining. 100/10, well done Mae
Thanks, Finn!
Okay, honestly I was really skeptical about the whole thing like I thought this was bait but oh boi I was so wrong
Damm
I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@iamemamae LIKE IT'S SO UNCANNY WTF
One small thing regarding fnaf lore - Glitchtrap is not William Afton who came back, but The Mimic, an AI program, who learnt what happened back in Freddy Fazbear's Pizza and decided to "mimic" Afton's behaviour. Though you may still have said that, I'm still watching the video lol
I purposefully didn't talk much about the mimic. I do know Glitchtrap isn't exactly William Afton, but I'm not convinced it's the mimic either, although I do know that's one of the prevalent theories. I'm excited to see what the new mimic game has to say about it.
this video scratched my brain IN JUST THE RIGHT PLACES. thank you
No problem! I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
Veteran FNAF Fan from Day 01 and HSR Player, yes some parts of the story of Penacony does have similar characteristics from the very complicated FNaF Storyline
Great Video! ❤
Would Gallagher be similar to Michael then? In the sense of betraying Gopher Wood to make sure Mikhail's plan work in the end?
Changing himself in the process into an undead enigma that only survive until this plan's completion.
He also has some friendly relationship with Misha, but it's not truly brotherly😅
See I was first thinking Galagher=Mimic (because Gallagher is very frustrating to work with when theorizing and I don't particularly like him) but THAT makes a lot more sense, and I like it.
And both terrorize someway their counterpart
Gallagher =pulls pranks on misha
Micheal = pulls pranks on crying child
I didnt expect a video this long about hsr and fnaf seemingly not being a joke but hey me likey both of those series
Not a joke XD A lot of people apparently went into this thinking that
fun theory i made is that honkai star rail could be taking inspiration of doctor who because firefly could be the doctor because they both are presumably the last of their species because of a war between her species ( the time lords / the glamoth empire ) and another species that does not want to die and always multiplies ( daleks / the swarm ) but also because she travels in space and his in a group that treads finality so time sort of and the doctor travels in time and space.
They definitely took inspiration from a LOT of different places for Penacony - Alice in Wonderland, Pinocchio, that one evangelion thing, it's just a WHOLE BUNCH of different stories put together.
the title was definitely surprising, esp because I didn’t know which part of fnaf it was but the longer the video went on the more and more it made sense 😭
Thats make sense, nice video
making comparisons to fnaf is one of my favourite things ever how did i not come up with this 😞
I mean, expand on it if you want :)
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You would not believe my face when I found out that the final boss of that DLC was doing a full Sunday, would love to see someone make a video along these lines with that
Thank you for explaining Penacony lore in unique & creative way using FNAF 👏
I love your videos and I love your style of editing.
I've been laughing for 5 minutes at the "uncle Will has officially been uninvited from the barbecue" which, fair, i would uninvite him too. Especially since APPARENTLY fire doesn't work on that motherfudger.
im in too deep when it comes to fnaf lore, sor a few times i was like "a few theories are unsure if that's true anymore" but like that's not a serious critique, i'm just terminally online when it comes to fnaf and its lore developments lol
great vid!
finally i can rest in peace catching the lore of penacony lmao
this was not a video i was expecting to watch in my lifetime
And yet here we are :)
I literally would joke about how Sunday got Freddy Fazbear'd into Dominicus because how else was he operating that thing beyond soul stuff. Oh boy I'm excited to watch this
NO SERIOUSLY HE DID ITS CRAZY
after chasca’s reveal in the natlan teaser, i am 100% convinced someone on the hoyo plot & character creation team, is a fnaf fan.
Oh ya it's just impossible they're not
So HSR is basically sexualized gambling addiction five nights at Freddy's.
Pretty much XD
THIS IS SO COOL !! I love this so much there is so much crossover potential 🥺🥺
I'm not too wellversed on gallagher or fnaf book lore,, but is it possible he's comparable to the 'blob'? a culmination of multiple consciousnesses melded together with agony/memoria (???) that formed from the destruction of the past family members/animatronics...? maybe...? just a thought! I thought gallagher should be worked into there somehow since he's kinda important
See, I like that, but he actually is a LOT closer to Michael Afton. I made a short about it here - th-cam.com/users/shortsbG-69qTnDbo?si=6x1lffGs62Ro4iuM
@@iamemamae OH i didn't know that !! thank you !!
Ok, here me out, Doesn't that mean that firefly/sam is a parallel to glamrock freddy? First firefly dies to a creature of nightmare, she is also a friend we meet at the very start of the penacony quest, meanwhile glamrock freddy is again, a friend we meet at the start of Security breach, and in the true ending he is torn apart by a group of security bots, and they both SURVIVE their deaths as well, firefly is revealed to be sam, and freddy is... Sort of alive as we see in the Security Breach DLC in a wrecked form, and both the SAM suit and glamrock Freddy can contain and keep someone safe. other than that there are no other parallels I can think of.
That's really good! I actually made a short about Gallagher being similar to michael afton, and had a breakdown over Sparkle/mimic parallels, but this one works too!
@@iamemamaeI did have an insane theory before that Acheron and black swan were both parallels to sun and moon from SB as well, but even to ME that just sounds like pure nonsense.
@@Gabrielrandom-l6y Ooooo yeah it doesn't really line up that well, but I LOVE the vibes of that!
@@Gabrielrandom-l6y It's a concept that's worth an edit altho probably not a theory :)
Im curious about Gallagher? If anyone has some ideas, do tell!
I think Gallagher is (tentatively) the Mimic. I was going to talk about him, but if I'm honest, I don't know enough about the Mimic to draw the kind of parallels I need to for this.
i watched this thinking it was a joke and oh my god you are ON TO SOMETHING!! especially with vanny/sunday and william/gopher wood, since gopher wood very obviously manipulates sunday into doing his deeds for him, "clipping" his wings.
I TOLD YOU. I. WAS NOT. LAUGHING.
There's certainly parallels and it's interesting to see your takes. Overall i think this is a solid argument for the sake of fun.
Now as someone that fell into the lore of FNAF (as someone that never cared too much about the games but finds the piecing together of the story fascinating) there are a couple holes (?) in the theory.
The FNAF lore is so all over the place with multiple timelines that it was interesting seeing you take things from the Books, Movie and games to make your points since the information doesn't necessarily cross over. Not to mention from endings that aren't generally considered cannon lol.
Not that it matters much since as you said you did your own take on FNAF lore and this is more looking at the general feel of the plot points rather then a direct retelling. Not to mention all of this is silly fun.
This was a great video to watch.
I have so many thoughts about FNAF lore. I think in some areas it is unsolvable, but there's some ways through it that make a reasonable level of sense (the same amount of sense as most stories these days - plot holes and all). I'll probably make an actual pure FNAF video at some point. I have so many thoughts about the Puppet and the Crying child. I think there's a connection there that no one's yet talked about, but it explains a few things.
i've had so much fun, thank you for your work!!
You cooked too hard with this like you're actually insane?! FNaF HSR AU when-
Hey now that they've started doing crossovers with other video games...FNAF HSR COLLAB WHEN??????????
HSR x FNAF is a perfect combination ❤
They're both incredible, and when you find out they MIRROR EACH OTHER it's even BETTER!
Freddy Fazbear will power creep Acheron
Gonna archive this video and watch it after i finish penacony
Would Ena be The Mimic then?
Cuz Gopher Wood = William is to Dream Master = Glitch trap
Then Mimic = Ena
Mimic revealed to be disguised as Gregory in SB:Ruin after Henry Burned Pizzaria with the other Animatronics
Ena revealed to be with Xipe (Or disguised as Harmony as Ena is Assimilated by Kipe)
After the Charmony Festival
Which is Pizzaria Burn = Charmony Festival
Mimic influences the pizzaplex through Glitch Trap (Cuz Glitchtrap is Mimic Virus, referring to Mimic pretended to be Circus Baby Theory and how the Chip from Night 5 contains Mmic Virus and Mimic Copies William and so Glitch Trap controls Vanny)
While Ena influences Penacony through Dream Master (Dream Master is a follower of Order, which means He copies Order, tho kinda swapped, Ena Being Part of Harmony = Mimic Pretending to be Circus Baby, and so Dream Master controls Sunday)
So, Xipe = Circus Baby
Milkhail is devoted to harmony as Henry is to Circus baby
Both got used by Ena/Mimic to hide and influence other (Ena influence Dream Master and Sunday and Mimic through the VR to Glitch Trap and Vanny)
To support the Mimic's Part Here
Mimic hid in Circus Baby, Before leaving Circus Baby asked you to get some Chip at Night 5, which got uploaded in the FNAF HW, in one the Tape Girl's Recording they use some Scraps and parts to upload in the VR, it's possible that Circus Baby Chip is one of those
oooo I've been saying mimic=sparkle, but I think I like this better. That makes...so much sense?
“With every fiber of my Kakavasha smitten being”
Me:
“YEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!”
Also, iced tea is THE BEST
I like all my beverages cold or iced ☺️👍
@@IdioticBees Saaaame - I like hot beverages for specific reasons (sore throat, I want to warm up), but Cold/iced is my default
@@iamemamae hot beverages make my stomach feel weird 😞
I love winter… except for hot chocolate because it tastes weird iced 😭
@@IdioticBees See, at that point, just get chocolate milk, right?
@@iamemamae EXACTLY
Ain’t no way I’m actually engaging in FNAF lore via HSR - you are literally THE hsr theorist of the century and I have no doubts about this. Also, what’s your thoughts on 2.4 and are you going to make a video on the ten stonehearts, by chance??
thank you so much! I'll be playing 2.4 on stream on thursday most likely :) And my next video about the IPC will include some info about the stonehearts. Don't you worry :)
Yea, after the mccoy mission, it becomes clear that when gallagher said the sweet dream was powered by peoples lives, it didnt just mean figuratively, but literally aswell. 0n0
VERY LITERALLY.
So like Gopher Wood kinda had the same idea as Dr. Octopus, using the power of a star to power something (a city in Spiderman / the dream scape) maybe not the most comparable things, but still... I thought I'd share :/
ALSO! the video was/is really entertaining, and a fun watch!! :)
Thanks! I'm glad you liked it!
ahh good I'm happy to know we get more IPC evil teehee teehee video sometime this month
Now we just have to wait almost a decade for the HSR movie!
I think i said this on the last fnaf/penacony theory video, but i can't wait for the FNAF planet update in hsr and I can pull for anime boy william afton
XD
@@iamemamae crack theory, each new planet/world in hsr will be retellings of mascot horror games/other games in general. not any real evidence to prove this, just going off of vibes but they're strong vibes
@@iamemamae just wanna let you know that last night I had to pull an all nighter to finish my computer science final project. I knew I had to lock in so i took 40mg of my adderall at around 2AM and I'm pretty sure I ended up listening to this video on loop for most of the night as background noise while I worked.
so yea this was a good video
I mean now I'm on the lookout for other game parallels! We'll see how things play out from here. I hope your computer science project went well!
And Gallagher is the Vengeful Spirit
I have a theory that he's actually very much like Mike, BUT if you can believe dual process theory's theory about Mike BEING the vengeful spirit, then it makes little difference XD I love it!
@@iamemamae damn at first I thought about it as a joke but now I start to really see it what are you doing with me😭 fnaf pleeeease release me I'm tired of all of this theorizing and thinking 😭
@@lasanister6925 SO MANY PEOPLE have told me "I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE" XD Nope, not a joke XD
oh no...
she cooked.
19:20 Hey, there's only one problem with this theory.
Black Swan CAN manifest in real life. At the end of 2.3 she appears on the express so... she definitely cannot be like Misha.
Though that's a nice theory anyway!
That specific point isn't a theory. It's canon. All Memokeepers are memetic entities. Becoming a memokeeper requires them to give up their physical body. However, they're much more powerful than the kind of memetic entities created by memory projection.
@@iamemamae Oh, that's fair, sorry
@@alterveli No worries :)
15:58 omg now I'm hungry what are ypu doing with me
But gosh video is amazing
(waves hands in "abracadabra") buyyyyy snaaaaaaacks
me when both of my hyperfixations are mentioned in the same video: :0
another parallel would be that michael afton is gallagher
Mhm mhm a LOT of people have made that connection, and I really like it.
As a Huge FNaF, maybe i'll try HSR and HI3.
YOU TOTALLY SHOULD! I recommend Star Rail first as HI3 has been around for a LONG time and the story is a bit more difficult to keep up with, but Star rail really helped me understand some of HI3, cause a lot of the characters between the two games are variants of each other.
technically if nothing is known in the fnaf universe, making it unknown, and in your Missing Nameless video about razzalina saying that gallagher himself/itself is the unknown... does that make gallagher the entirely of fnaf? maybe the reason fnafs timeline is messed up is because of him LMAO
IM WHEEZINGGGGGGGG
look for scholarships for uni in a few months? ❌
watch silli but also incredibly interesting theory of fnaf/hsr arc being hella similar? ✔
XD good luck on your scholarship aps!
İm gonna be honest... I want to see someone rant about the IPC lol
Very fun video that made me feel just as insane as you are 😂
what do you mean. I'm perfectly sane. (eye twitches)
wait what? stellarons are the core of stars? where did you get that?
"Star Core" is the literal translation of the word used for Stellaron in the Chinese Translation of the game.
And Genshin is Dark Souls. Seriously.
Almost every connection you've made between the two games is actually a generic story convention. Writers tend to pick and choose various pervasive story elements and rearrange them into something unique.
Both Batman and Spiderman wear a costume to conceal thier identity, fight crime, are rocket scientist levels of smart, have a wacky; chaotic archnemesis, and draw thier motivation from the trauma of losing the people closest to them. But no one would call them the same character.
Mmm I actually very much disagree. I can think of a couple places where there's a Dreamaster/Afton as well as a Golden Freddy/Clockie character in other media, but none of these are really THAT common (definitely not as common as superheroes). And even if I'm mistaken, and I just don't know of the places you've seen them before because we run in different circles as far as the stories we consume, even then, if the similarities between FNAF and Penacony was limited to a handful of similarities between a few characters, I wouldn't have bothered making the video. But we're talking 30+ parallel plot and character beats across eight different characters, the relationships between the parallel characters being almost exactly the same, STRONG thematic similarities, etc. And I've even found a couple more since making this video. You would be totally right if it were just one or two things that just kinda ended up mildly close to each other. But when you have this many things across this many story elements, they start adding up.
Ugh, fine. This video has appeared for a third time on my feed. I will indulge.
Edit after watching: Okay, to me it seems that it’s just corellation. Two stories with horror themes that sell themselves with the many characters (mostly ensemble casts, compared to single or duo performances like Prey). The opposing twins, or the evil buisness partner, those are staple clichés.
Now it doesn’t change the fact that the simmilarities exist and are really friggin’ funny. And the video is entertaining. I just don’t see the causal chain between FNAF and HSR’s Penacony arc.
I await your reaction XD
@@iamemamae I have edited my comment.
While I am opposed to framing the two stories as identical, or even exceedingly similar, I will willingly admit that the parallels between the two are amusing. If I was to compare the two plotlines, I’d pivot more towards the shared roots in horror and thriller tropes, including oneric scenes, characters with alter-egos (be it a sibling or an internal split personality) and more.
TL;DR: Great video. I disagree with the specific premise, but it is a thought-inspiring piece of content. Also please “How 2.4’s main quest deals with trauma” video.
XD I'm so glad you enjoyed it!
BUT HEY THAT'S JUST A THEORY!, A HONKAI THEORY!!!
Goated video
Thanks, Strike!!!
I think I’m gonna have to start playing honkai again lmao
I VERY MUCH reccommend it
Ema Mae says she isn't matpat... But have you ever seen Ema and MatPat in the same room together?
You know, if the crying child = mike theory is true (which it's not), then it would just make your point of misha being the crying child even more powerful
It wouuuld wouldn't it. But there are some interesting parallels between Gallagher and Mike :)
Feels like Matpat never left
I mean technically he hasn't has he XD
DREAM THEORY CONFIRMED
YESSSSSS
Okay, but where is the bite of 87?
Wtf was in my coffee?
LOOOOOOOORRRRREEEEEEEEEEE
*Oh bet. Here's another Game Theory:* 💀
Trailblazer is actually KRIS from DELTARUNE
and AHA is JEVIL
Im so sorry but I understand none of those words
@@iamemamae Oh no. Don't worry, if you know Sans from Undertale, Deltarune is like Undertale 2 but in alternate universe. I recommend to play both cuz the story is mindblowing, and HSR seemingly took inspiration from those games. heck, Sampo is HSR Sans for me.
69 likes :C I wanna add one.. more.. but...
Also, great job on symbolism and highlighting the parallels!
XD Thank YOu!
Tokyo treat‘s treats look soooo yummy
THEY ARE THO! I'm gonna have a hard time not continuing to promote them when the sponsorship ends /hj
I love this video too ^^ seriously :)
Thank you!!
Aha played you and you might get played again with this
fear
warranted XD
Just a heads up it looks like the Sakuraco and Tokyo Treat links in the description are tracking links and not the referral links!
Thank you so much for letting me know. It's fixed now :) Sorry about that
Random question, for the twins when they lost their mom in the stellaron, was that at penacony or another planet?
I'm like 70% certain that was a different planet. I think the name of their homeworld is actually stated somewhere but I don't know off the top of my head.
@@iamemamae okie poke
Who let Ema cooked?
Your first mistake was THINKING I NEEDED SOMEONE'S PERMISSION! EVERYONE GET READY FOR STAR RAIL FNAF EN FLAMBE!
Erm actually it’s the persona 5 royal ending 🤓👆(I’m sorry)
I know nothing about Persona XD
@@iamemamae it’s honestly so similar, I recommend playing the game it’s so good
Just make sure to max out Maruki it’s important.
WTH
appropriate reaction is appropriate