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Carnaby HE2 | Sound Demos | Individual Sources
Watch and listen in real-time as individual sources are processed through the Carnaby HE2 harmonicEQ®; the evolution of the popular Carnaby 500.
→ Learn more about the Cranborne Audio Carnaby HE2 here: www.cranborne-audio.com/carnabyhe2
00:00 Kick
00:36 Snare Group
01:29 Drum Room
02:11 Bass Guitar
02:48 Acoustic Guitar
03:20 Lead Vocal
03:56 Backing Vocal
→ Featured music: Midwich Cuckoos - Flesh & Bone
→ Recorded at Signal House Studios, England
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Carnaby HE2 | An Evolution of HarmonicEQ® | Interview With Cranborne Audio
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Sean and Ed from Cranborne Audio discuss the inspiration and innovation behind the Carnaby HE2 harmonicEQ®; the evolution of the popular Carnaby 500. Filmed at Signal House Studios in Hatfield, UK. → Learn more about the Cranborne Audio Carnaby HE2 here: www.cranborne-audio.com/carnabyhe2 00:00 Introduction 00:34 An Evolution 01:27 Digital Recall 02:42 Innovators for Creators 04:36 Overcoming C...
Carnaby HE2 | 2-channel HarmonicEQ® for 19 Inch Rack | Product Overview
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This is Carnaby HE2 - an evolution of our HarmonicEQ technology - a new analogue audio circuit that creates EQ effects using genuine analogue saturation for musical, tonally-rich signal processing - originally pioneered with our Carnaby 500. Our Carnaby HE2 HarmonicEQ® utilises the same unique and revolutionary EQ concept found in Carnaby 500, using harmonic saturation to boost and cut frequenc...
Carnaby 500 Sound Examples | Harmonic EQ for 500 Series
มุมมอง 6Kปีที่แล้ว
The Carnaby 500 is a new EQ concept designed for the 500 Series format and utilising a unique Harmonic EQ circuit. Carnaby 500 is a 3-band parametric EQ and uses harmonic saturation to boost and cut frequency content. It enhances your sources, stems and mixes with genuine analogue harmonic saturation with the feel, familiarity, and control of an equaliser. → Learn more about Carnaby 500: www.cr...
Carnaby 500 | The World's First Harmonic EQ | Interview With Cranborne Audio
มุมมอง 6Kปีที่แล้ว
Sit down with the Cranborne team at Strongroom Studios in London as they discuss in detail how the Harmonic EQ concept came about and how it was developed over 4 years to create the world's first Harmonic EQ®. Big thanks to our friends and fellow Londoners at world famous Strongroom Studios for the fab sitdown in Studio #4. → Learn more about Carnaby 500: www.cranborne-audio.com/carnaby500 00:0...
Carnaby 500 | HarmonicEQ® for 500 Series | Product Overview
มุมมอง 10Kปีที่แล้ว
The Carnaby 500 is a new EQ concept designed for the 500 Series format and utilising a unique Harmonic EQ circuit. Carnaby 500 is a 3-band parametric EQ and uses harmonic saturation to boost and cut frequency content. It enhances your sources, stems and mixes with genuine analogue harmonic saturation with the feel, familiarity, and control of an equaliser. Massive thank you to Alec Brits for th...
N8 | Studio Cabling System | Audio Over Cat 5 System | C.A.S.T. Distribution Hub | Product Overview
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Why does studio cabling need to be messy? We developed C.A.S.T. to make it easier than ever to pull your studio together and patch your mics, instruments, and other gear into your audio interface using standard, shielded cat 5 cables. N8 is the central hub to your studio. It connects to your audio interface using DB25 cables and then has 4 C.A.S.T. ports on the front that are sent off to other ...
Advanced Recording With C.A.S.T. | Camden EC1 | Preamp, Saturation Processor, & Headphone Amp
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Camden EC1 is an advanced recording tool to bring elite-level preamp, zero-latency monitoring, and headphone amplification onto your desktop, but it really comes alive with its C.A.S.T. port. In this video, we are going to show how using Camden EC1's and C.A.S.T. adds advanced tracking and recording capabilities in your studio using 3rd-party audio interfaces as well as our 500R8 and 500ADAT. →...
Sweetwater Gearfest 2021 | Cranborne Audio | Company Overview | #gearfest2021
มุมมอง 4K3 ปีที่แล้ว
We're Cranborne Audio, an exciting award-winning brand from the UK! In this video, company founder, Sean talks about the company and our relationship with Sweetwater! → Like Cranborne Audio on Facebook: cranborneaudio → Follow @cranborneaudio on Instagram: cranborneaudio → Follow @cranborne_audio on Twitter: cranbrorne_audio → Subscribe to Cranborne Audio’...
Sweetwater Gearfest 2021 | Cranborne Audio | Camden EC1 Product Overview | #gearfest2021
มุมมอง 1.3K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Camden EC1 is a three in one upgrade to your studio. It's a high-quality, ultra clean and linear mic preamp and DI, an analogue saturation processor, and a reference-quality headphone amplifier with some unique C.A.S.T. capabilities! In this video for Sweetwater's Gearfest 2021, Sean takes a gives an overview of all of its features! → Learn more about Camden EC1: www.cranborne-audio.com/Camdene...
Sweetwater Gearfest 2021 | Cranborne Audio | N22H Product Overview | #gearfest2021
มุมมอง 1.2K3 ปีที่แล้ว
N22H is a reference-quality headphone amplifier with some unique C.A.S.T. capabilities! In this video for Sweetwater's Gearfest 2021, Sean takes a gives an overview of all of its features! → Learn more about N22H: www.cranborne-audio.com/n22h → Buy now: www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/CAN22H cranborne-audio-n22h-headphone-amp-and-cast-breakout-box → Like Cranborne Audio on Facebook: facebook.co...
N22 & N22H | C.A.S.T. Breakout Box and Studio Headphone Amplifier | Product Overview
มุมมอง 6K3 ปีที่แล้ว
C.A.S.T. places the Headphone Amplifier and Input connectivity directly by the musician using Cranborne Audio's advanced C.A.S.T. system. N22 and N22H are simple breakout boxes that connect to each other or other C.A.S.T. enabled devices to create completely managed stage box solutions for studio or stage. N22H also functions as a perfect standalone headphone amplifier that can be connected to ...
Upgrade Your Audio Interface | Camden EC1 | Preamp, Saturation Processor, & Headphone Amp
มุมมอง 19K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Wondering if it's time to upgrade your audio interface? Well it might surprise you to know that you can achieve better performance from your existing audio interface by using our Camden EC1! By investing in an external mic preamp and headphone amp, you can actually optimise your current audio interface and level-up your studio without spending money on a new, expensive audio interface. In this ...
Recording Drums With Camden Preamps | Cranborne Audio
มุมมอง 5K3 ปีที่แล้ว
Recording a full drum kit using only Camden 500's is quite special. In Camden's neutral state, it captures tight, snappy drum transients with instant attack, but add a bit of Mojo... and they transform into saturated, warm, and massive sounding drums that is impossible to achieve in the box. This audio example was taken from our 'In The Studio With' video featuring Session Drummer and Producer ...
Recording Drums With Camden Preamps | In The Studio With Jackson Ward | Session Drummer & Producer
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This time we're in the studio, recording drums with Camden preamps and talking to Session Drummer & Producer Jackson Ward about how recording with Camden preamps can make recording drums easier than ever! Jackson talks to us about how he uses the Camden 500 preamps to capture drums with fast and accurate transients and then exaggerate the shell tone with the Mojo control. Jackson also talks abo...
Camden EC1 | Preamp, Mojo Analogue Saturation Processor, & Headphone Amp | Product Overview
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Camden EC1 | Preamp, Mojo Analogue Saturation Processor, & Headphone Amp | Product Overview
Camden EC2 | Two Channel Mic Preamp, Signal Processor, and Dual Headphone Mixer | Quick Overview
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Camden EC2 | Two Channel Mic Preamp, Signal Processor, and Dual Headphone Mixer | Quick Overview
500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Configuring Clock Settings For Master, Slave, And S/MUX
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500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Configuring Clock Settings For Master, Slave, And S/MUX
500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Upgrading your headphone amplifier and monitoring facilities
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500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Upgrading your headphone amplifier and monitoring facilities
500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Clock Master or Clock Slave? | Word Clock or ADAT
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500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Clock Master or Clock Slave? | Word Clock or ADAT
500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Expanding Your Audio Interface Using ADAT
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500ADAT Quick Tutorial | Expanding Your Audio Interface Using ADAT
500R8 Quick Tutorial | Creating 500 Series Channel Strips
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500R8 Quick Tutorial | Creating 500 Series Channel Strips
500R8 Quick Tutorial | Configuring 500R8's USB Outputs For System Sound And DAW Playback.
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500R8 Quick Tutorial | Configuring 500R8's USB Outputs For System Sound And DAW Playback.
Recording Vocals With Camden Preamps | Cranborne Audio
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Recording Vocals With Camden Preamps | Cranborne Audio
500R8 Quick Tutorial | Using Insert Points To Integrate Outboard Effects
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500R8 Quick Tutorial | Using Insert Points To Integrate Outboard Effects
Camden 500 | In The Studio with Jack Rose & Dom Sky (Hang Massive, Govardo)
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Camden 500 | In The Studio with Jack Rose & Dom Sky (Hang Massive, Govardo)
500R8 Quick Tutorial | Using 500R8 without 500 series modules
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500R8 Quick Tutorial | Using 500R8 without 500 series modules
500R8 Quick Tutorial | Inserting 500 series modules into a DAW session
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500R8 Quick Tutorial | Inserting 500 series modules into a DAW session
Cranborne Audio 500ADAT | 500 Series Rack / Lunchbox and ADAT Expander | Quick Overview
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Cranborne Audio 500ADAT | 500 Series Rack / Lunchbox and ADAT Expander | Quick Overview
Cranborne Audio 500R8 | 500 Series Rack / Lunchbox and USB Audio Interface | Quick Overview
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Cranborne Audio 500R8 | 500 Series Rack / Lunchbox and USB Audio Interface | Quick Overview

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  • @dpinskey
    @dpinskey 5 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Putting a call out for youtube content contributors to post C.A.S.T. scenario setups. There's not a lot of practical tutorials out there. I've had my N22/N22H, N8 and Cranborne 500R USB chassis for some time now and am just figuring out a few handy ways to use these devices in ways not explained by anyone else I can find out there, including the Cranborne site. I figured out one application in particular that I am very pleased about for which I haven't seen any tutorial guides anywhere, which is to utilize the 500R8 chassis C.A.S.T. Link to send all 8 channels of analog audio from the chassis (which appears to sum all 8 channels to two) via shielded cat cable to the input of an N22H to be sent to headphone distribution. I don't think there would be any detriment to the either the chassis or the N22H doing this, but do let me know if someone knows why I shouldn't be doing this if it would be causing any harm to any part of the system. The only tutorials I am finding online are showing to connect to the individual set of slots (A-D) which would then only utilizes the audio at those slot pairs. Hoping to get some feedback as to whether 500R chassis and C.A.S.T. system users might find this information useful. Cheers!

  • @AudioAnimalsStudio
    @AudioAnimalsStudio 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great interview. Your passion for the product shows.

  • @Hjazz-bi7zw
    @Hjazz-bi7zw 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’d love one to go with with my rhodes, are you developing one with an in and out socket like a guitar pedal?

  • @billymoluv
    @billymoluv 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    would be cool if you didn't need it with software

    • @cranborneaudio
      @cranborneaudio 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey Billy! It operates as a stand alone piece of hardware, HE2 Control just allows you to control it digitally along with other features such as recalling settings!

    • @billymoluv
      @billymoluv 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@cranborneaudio YEAH I watched the video on it and that was great to know. A lot of Mic preamps had the software only and is a pain to map things correctly with gear.

  • @ezstproductions_
    @ezstproductions_ 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I’m excited about this product but the reviews have not been impressive. I most likely need to play with it in my studio or even a namm.

  • @Getry
    @Getry 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    shieeeet

  • @braxal6983
    @braxal6983 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My HE2 is on the delivery truck I should be getting it any time now 7/5/2024. I really hope I like it.

  • @JohnnysaidWhat
    @JohnnysaidWhat 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    would be cool to here a before and after of the full mix 😢

    • @cranborneaudio
      @cranborneaudio 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Hey Johnny, thanks for the feedback. We will have some full mix demos of HE2 coming up soon.

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Yeah, things like opto sync and dual mono control keeps the gear adaptable. When companies come out with stereo only items (dynamics) it makes the device seem limited and less of an investment

  • @a1k2i31
    @a1k2i31 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    buenas noches, una pregunta en que pedestal se coloca el n22h?

  • @erik_bwoe
    @erik_bwoe 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    any shot you'll add the digital recallable to the carnaby 500? maybe using the same way that wes audio does so it could work in their racks or a usb cable?

  • @MR_Cellarpop
    @MR_Cellarpop 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks, hope i get my soon😀

  • @DiegoChapuis-fs7nj
    @DiegoChapuis-fs7nj หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hola, deben estar ambas conectadas a la computadora?

  • @danielpennington3081
    @danielpennington3081 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Highly frustrating placing an order for one of these, patiently waiting for months, and then suddenly seeing the same unit with a different color face place start shipping for 45% more while the rest of us still wait. I canceled my order and went in another direction. Ho hum.

  • @alphasupreme7167
    @alphasupreme7167 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can I use 500adat with my Presonus Quantum HD2?

  • @alphasupreme7167
    @alphasupreme7167 หลายเดือนก่อน

    is this also possible with the Presonus Quantum HD2?

  • @MrRenasebastian
    @MrRenasebastian หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey thanks for this video. I got a R8 a few months ago, used it for tracking and Im over the moon about the quality of the material I got. Now I am using it for processing signal from my daw to the R8 and back and I don't see to be able to get a stereo signal back, it's always a mono somehow. For example I am using a SPL BIG and what I get back is a mono signal. Any advice?

  • @KiNgClan21
    @KiNgClan21 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My pro tools is not picking up sound from my 500 chasis. On logic it works well. Help!

  • @hwreviewers
    @hwreviewers หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi, I take one of this unit, I hope that it could help me to reach the target of a very low noise level while i’m recording. I would like to test it also with the insert in input of Behringer UV1 to add it to a channel strip in case of live setup withoutuse a fethead or cloudlifter that could introduce more noise. 🤞

  • @GameArtsCafe
    @GameArtsCafe หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wish you would have made your own A-D converter to match the quality of your specs because it sounds like we have to plug this into an interface and rely on the limits of that DAC.

    • @heypaaatch
      @heypaaatch หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their 500 series ADAT unit might be a good indicator of their conversion quality. I’d love try one to see how those hold up against the Universal Audio X series converters.

  • @nordic2112
    @nordic2112 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow. The high frequency circuit boosts high frequencies.

  • @DarkTrapStudio
    @DarkTrapStudio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can we see a use on a master buss ?

  • @dpinskey
    @dpinskey 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I bought N8 I had the impression that I could monitor all 8 outputs simultaneously from an 8-channel interface, but now that I’ve been playing around with the N8 and several N22H and N2S breakout boxes it appears I can only monitor and distribute over c.a.s.t. the signal connected to the 1&2 positions of a DB25 cable to all connected c.a.s.t. devices and then switch to the 3&4,5&6 and 7&8 positions connected to the interface to a c.a.s.t. device wired directly to those respective numeric pairs but cannot send any of those pairs to any other connected c.a.s.t. device not connected to those numerical pair positions. Am I doing something wrong?

  • @twaylan
    @twaylan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I’d buy Julian Krause 5 coffees to review this as an interface!

  • @WeSuckAsHumans
    @WeSuckAsHumans 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good sound could be even better....Put a gate on that kick!

  • @VoidAbstract
    @VoidAbstract 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you add more adat?

  • @BradleyGagne
    @BradleyGagne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be great to have digital recall in the 500 series, and the Craboure rack with digital recall, similar to the WesAudio Titan. Great job! I saw this at NAMM and can't wait to have one in my studio.

  • @jasonalemon5874
    @jasonalemon5874 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    are these ever going start shipping?

  • @jasperdany
    @jasperdany 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use the Cranborne workflow and I love it. Itwould be great, if you guys could make a stripped down version of 500 ADAT for guys who use 500R8 as primary audio interface, stripping down a few overlapping features.

  • @triplebeam23
    @triplebeam23 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a question im relatively new to outboard gear and own a RME babyface pro fs and im out of I/Os and planned on getting like the behringer 800 series.. but im not a big fan of behringer and their business practices.. i own a moog matriarch and plan on buying more synths .. would i be able to connect the synths and guitar pedals to this unit without having any 500 series gear?

    • @JLP-333
      @JLP-333 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can connect any Line Level signals to the insert jacks with no modules

  • @griffonsgroijacobs3237
    @griffonsgroijacobs3237 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can you use two N8s together instead of the n8 on one side and n22 on another? That would be ideal for routing signals between two racks

  • @dougleydorite
    @dougleydorite 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If these ever go on sale, I’ll buy a few units! This is how I’ve ended up with so much Wes Audio gear

  • @mrkeeny
    @mrkeeny 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello

  • @vitalmakhdum
    @vitalmakhdum 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cranborne is King

  • @PhillRS
    @PhillRS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I route 8 subgroups out of my daw into this for summing?

    • @PhillRS
      @PhillRS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      While using the direct out into a analog mixer such as the X Desk...

  • @jovantrendmaker4722
    @jovantrendmaker4722 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im making hip hop and house i dont need vocals i would use this for synths mpc and drumachine. Do i need stereo preamp or could i do it with this one?

  • @eatnobody
    @eatnobody 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is an awesome demo! Ordered Camden after watching it! Can I ask, how did you connect the synth? Just can’t get into. It’s probably with a stereo jack, ok. But did you go into Direct Box first, then to Camden? Or did you connect the synth right to the preamp using Line setting? But probably this synth is -10db of max level. Or maybe you just digitised the synth output first, then from audio interface run the signal into the Camden? So, can you please clarify?

  • @S7V7N_SEAS
    @S7V7N_SEAS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the insert mid/side also?

  • @jayrobarge3443
    @jayrobarge3443 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, such a beautiful piece

  • @DMV-SaxTv
    @DMV-SaxTv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok Team Cranborne ... I have succumb to this beautifully crafted gear. My main saxophone cried for one of these to live on the chain! Placed it on order today, so I'm waiting for her like a late date!!

  • @raminpartovi734
    @raminpartovi734 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can I use the inserts to send smth out only (without returning a signal)? Would the input of the 500 unit still arrive at the output or would this interrupt the slot chain? And can I send something onto the insert return that’s not coming from that insert send (ie from an external unit)? In other words: is that insert slot in series or in parallel? Many thanks for clarification

    • @raminpartovi734
      @raminpartovi734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Their great customer support wrote me: “inserts are wired in series” so it will indeed interrupt the chain. Got them in a patchbay half-normalled so enables me to split the output and send smth directly to the out.

  • @DrumAwake
    @DrumAwake 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for sharing the process and wonderful info on this innovative gift to the audio, music world! Today I ordered my first pair of Carnaby’s!

    • @cranborneaudio
      @cranborneaudio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for taking an interest in our nerding. Welcome to the Cranborne family! ❤

  • @henningbortne8650
    @henningbortne8650 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I preordered HE2 for use in Oslo Mastering. Can't wait. But with yours filiosofy, clean, musical, I really want you to make a least 4 band Mastering eq.

  • @WisdomHouseCreative
    @WisdomHouseCreative 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm curious what makes this different than a multi band saturation device?

  • @Feerlyss
    @Feerlyss 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Any good for mastering or better for mixing and mix bus?

  • @chongyizhang3526
    @chongyizhang3526 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    AAX plugin or Control App for Mac?

  • @DrayClay
    @DrayClay 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I saw this masterpiece at The NAMM Show and you better believe I’m getting one for sure. I heard the 500 series version and have been a fan ever since. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 Let’s Go‼️ Beautiful piece of Kit.

  • @jasongoesacoustic
    @jasongoesacoustic 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would this require something like the Radial EXTC Stereo to get the correct impedance? Going from balanced to unbalanced and back?

    • @brettholcomb3763
      @brettholcomb3763 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They answered another comment saying impedance would not be an issue except for some rare instances (like vintage fuzz). As far as balanced/unbalanced, the insert send and return are unbalanced and so are guitar pedals. The TRS cable serves as the unbalanced return and send for each insert.

  • @kennethdarlington
    @kennethdarlington 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will this be available as a plugin?

  • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
    @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    OOOF!!!! You guys won't let me keep money in my pocket, huh? LMFAO Well done, Cranborne Audio.

    • @cranborneaudio
      @cranborneaudio 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Our sincerest apologies. We just really feel like your pocket is a terrible place to be putting your money.

    • @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios
      @sekritskworl-sekrit_studios 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @cranborneaudio ya' know... I may just have to sit down and reflect upon the logistical details regarding the holding location of my $17 dollars. I appreciate you guys inspiring such a thought provoking argument. LOL