500R8 Quick Tutorial | Creating 500 Series Channel Strips
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- NOTE: This video refers to firmware v0.9. Please refer to the latest 500R8 manual for up-to-date channel assignments & features found in firmware v1.3.
In this weeks #tutorialtuesday, Elliott shows off one of 500R8's most powerful features, the Chain switch! The Chain switch allows you to effortlessly create channel strips of 500 series processing by sending the output of one module into the input of the next to design your very vocal chain, mastering chain, or saturation palette!
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In this video, Elliott also takes us through 500R8's unique pre/post recording feature that allows you to record at multiple points throughout the Chain for advanced processing.
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500R8 Manual:
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Learn more about 500R8:
www.cranborne-audio.com/500r8
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Read the Sound on sound review of 500R8:
www.cranborne-audio.com/500r8
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Learn more about Camden 500:
www.cranborne-audio.com/camden500
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Very helpful! Can you please do a tutorial using the analog summing feature?
Such a cool way to process audio professionally... finally, something that works for professional setup and doesn't break the bank!
wow the mix of the song in the backgrourd sounds good to me!
This is a MUST for me to get. Brilliant. I can still use my old RME FF interface but get all the the routing options from this, as well as conversion. Love it and will be purchasing as soon as I find a Canadian dealer.
This is amazing
I've heard nothing but great things about the 500R8. One of these days I'd love to get my hands on one and a few 500 series modules to do a review!
Man this is an amazing piece of gear, the difference in that kick was crazy. I was always put of 500 series gear but this would allow me to incorporate it into my rack setup. Great work!
Thanks @thatscottishdrummer! To be honest, we were the same prior to starting Cranborne - always loved 500 series, but thought the effort to get it integrated neatly with everything else we wanted was a bit of a pain! We all thought, "there must be an easier way!!" and here we are! 🤣
@@cranborneaudio Nice, yeah great job guys this is making me want to finally get in to some 500 gear... On a side note, I notice you are using Logic which is also my DAW of choice. Does your 500R8 support the new(ish) Audio Device controls right on the channel strips?
help.apple.com/logicpro/mac/10.4/#/lgcpbc219210
@@bobdrums No problem! We do not support the Audio Device controls as the modules installed to 500R8 are all likely to be analogue modules and the digital controls wouldn't be able to adjust them. Also there are no preamps built-in to the 500R8 and so there would be nothing for them to control. Hope that helps!
Is it me or the music behind the kick drum exemple is "the green manalishi with two pronged crown" ? Il love this song :D
Another question, can you use the n22h headphone amp with this as well? I saw that you could actually connect your mic to the headphone amp and then record the input through the cad5 cable?
Yes absolutely! Connect the N22H to the 500R8 and you can connect mics directly to the N22H for recording as well as send a monitor mix straight to the HP amp on the N22H! It's a perfect stagebox ready for vocal tracking!
0:08 I have a question, about using the AMS NEVE 1073LB Pre and EQ when they are Bridge together with the Neve Jumper cable. How could you link the output of 6 into the input of 8? or could you place the Neve EQ on the left side of the neve pre? To maintain the EQ feeding the output transformer of the preamp.
Hi Zip! the Link jumper does appear to bypass the input XLR choice of the Neve EQ when in use. This would mean that the source switches/chain switches would not operate for that slot when the Link jumper is connected to the EQ, however If you only ever plan to use the Preamp into the EQ and never anything else then that wont be a problem. In this case, you can bypass the slot that the EQ is inserted into using the rear Slot Bypass switch and this would enable you to use slot 7 as a line-level recording feed, and then chain through slot 7 (with the EQ installed but not used) and into slot 8 - whilst using your Neve stuff as intended! Hope this helps!
Yes, Thank you. So the module still receives power if the internal bypass switch is engaged. Good to know.
What is the proper way to chain Stereo Modules such as the SSL UltraViolet EQ in Mod 5/6 into SSL G-Comp in slots 7/8?? Do you need to flip the chain on both stereo modules or just 1????
you use xlr cables
Is it possible to chain 2 stereo (2 slot) modules, or do I need to create multiple inserts, e.g. using a stereo EQ into a Bus compressor?
The chain feature is not compatible with stereo modules on 500R8 or 500ADAT as it was really intended for mono modules and creating channel strips. However if you wanted to insert a Bus Compressor into the signal path then you would indeed need two insert cables to come out the back of the unit and into your Bus Compressor to retain the true stereo image. Hope this helps, CA
I am seriously considering buying this unit for recording vocals, and for using 500 series products. But something I don’t understand is - I have read several comments in other videos saying that you should not track through mic preamps ins this unit. Why is that, if that is even the case? I want to track through a Neve preamp, and then a comp, through this unit, and in to my daw. I am very new to this analog world, but I want to be able to make the best results possible coming out of the gate. SO, is it a stupid idea tracking through preamps on this unit? 🙏
Hi Thomas, we're not aware of any reason why someone wouldn't record like that, I don't think I've (personally) seen those comments. If someone is recording via any other 'standard' audio interface, the microphone is still going through a preamp. With the 500R8, it's simply the case that you're able to choose exactly which preamp you use (and compressor, EQ etc etc)....however we of course advise our Camden 500 preamp and Carnaby 500 Harmonic EQ 😜
Can you run a pair of 3 strip chains (slots 1-3 and slots 4-6) into a stereo bus compressor on slots 7 and 8?
wondering this aswell
Hey there! You can chain mono modules without issue (so slots 1-3, slots 4-6) however the Chain will not work on Stereo modules (the logic to skip slots 4-6 and route into slot 7 for example is far too complex for a single switch) So you could chain Slots 1-3/4-6 and then use a small XLR jumper to come out of slots 3/6 into slots 7/8 for some compression. Hope that helps!
@@cranborneaudio that makes sense, and it's pretty brilliant that the system can be so flexible. Thanks for the reply :)
@@cranborneaudio Thanks so much, this was my first question. Glad it was answered directly! As a follow up question... in this scenario, if we wanted to utilize the summing mixer for this example... we would need to pick either 3/6, or 7/8 to send to the summing mixer's analog outs, correct? And if we decided to send 3/6 and 7/8 both to the summing mixer, then we would be effectively doubling the signal (sans the differences created by the modules), is this correct? I'll be purchasing one of these in a few months, so just want to make sure I have the signal path mapped out in my brain so I use it correctly hahaha.
Hi @@ChrisPhoenixBMR , not sure I am following your question I'm afraid! Feel free to send an email to us using the Support Form on our website and we can go through your specific setup together! Thanks mate!
how you set the chain switch when you are working with stereo modules, or two 1 slot module to use as stereo ???
Hi there! The Chain switch is only for Mono modules. Stereo modules would need to be patched on the rear panel with XLRs or by using a patch bay. The logic required to make one switch route audio in two different ways was too tricky to implement. Hope this helps! CA
@@cranborneaudio Thanks, also (15) Stereo Link Jumper , Connects Pin 6 to enable Stereo link. how I do that , I see the link but no moving part ? thanks again
@@anaisvania Hi there, there should be a little black plastic jumper sitting over one leg. You need to remove the jumper and reposition it over both legs to make the connection. If you are still having issues, please contact our tech support team and we can talk you through it in more detail! Regards, CA
@@cranborneaudio thanks I. would do that
@@cranborneaudio I got it
Can you also use the chain feature without the ADAT connection?
Hi, absolutely, the ADAT connection on 500R8 is purely to connect an external expansion unit (such as 500ADAT) to the 500R8. The 'Chain' switch is an analogue feature and works fully when simply using your 500R8 either as an analogue unit, or connected to your computer as your USB host.
@@cranborneaudio Great stuff! Thanks!
Necesitamos tutoriales en español
Does this work the same way with the 500 Series ADAT?
Hey @Dirk Fierce, yes absolutely!
@@cranborneaudio Oh, okey. So, what's the difference between 500R8 and 500 ADAT..is it the audio interface? Oh, I am new(ish) to audio production...
Hey @@johnngatho5401 , the 500R8 is a complete audio interface, whereas the 500ADAT is designed to connect to an existing interface via ADAT. So if you have a nice interface, you will want 500ADAT, but if you want to upgrade your interface, you will need the 500R8. Hope that helps.
Good be good to show how to create a stereo channel.
We'll see what we can do!
Is it possible to use this with my ssl fusion for stereo mix prints?
Hey Judson! Yes absolutely! All you need to do is run the Fusion through a pair of inserts on the back. You could also put modules in to process the signal before it goes through the Fusion if you wanted. We have a video about the Insert points and how to use them that you may find useful: th-cam.com/video/316zC3e7DgQ/w-d-xo.html Hope this helps! CA
@@cranborneaudio wow. Thank you for the quick reply. In the process of building my dream studio, can’t wait to add this to my workflow!!
@@judson8441 Awesome mate! Good luck with that build - with a Fusion and a 500R8/ADAT on the cards, it will be spectacular! 🎛🎛🎛
@@cranborneaudio can’t wait! As far as modules for rap vocals go, any suggestions? I’m used to the full size neve 1073 to tube tech cl1b chain in my old studio. Absolutely gold sound I’m trying to accomplish with the 500 series now
@@judson8441 Hi there! Well there are so many to choose from, it's hard to say what you would like! But of course AMS Neve has a 1073 module that would be very similar to what you are familiar with! Our Camden 500 set to 'Cream' has a nice up front saturation that will bring those rap vocals forward in the mix but of course it's completely down to you! There are so many amazing modules to chose from and I'm sure you could easily match or exceed the sound you achieved in your old studio!
does this work with stereo unit to stereo unit?
Hi, apologies, what do you mean exactly? Are you referring to fitting stereo modules?
@@cranborneaudio Does this work linking a 2slot unit to another 2slot unit?
@@cranborneaudio Or would you only be linking the left channel into the next unit?
@Cranborne Audio Basically can it set up a stereo chain when mixing using the link switch?
@@CaptinNimo The 'Chain' feature is more for linking modules in parallel to create a custom channel strip. However modules can be used in stereo either by sending audio directly to their inputs to record, or by sending audio out to them via a DAW insert.
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