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Would be fun to see you all compare this show side by side with modern X shows like 2022 in terms of style of show, content, production value etc. X has evolved so much over the years while still maintaining the core identity of great years like this.

I worked with Tim Wood at Universal Orlando . Good dude.

I'm just gonna be the one to say it "BALLS" - Chris Garay 2009, WGI championships. Thank you Chris.

The Lion King lick got me! <3

Nice episode‼️

Can you guys review Drumlines from Malaysia? (Wgi or drum battles) Would be really interesting

Thanks for bringing up so many fond memories. I really enjoyed listening and reminiscing with you guys.

My bus partner in ‘98 Best dude ever

Dave ripping his glasses off his face and throwing them mid run is top tier.

I remember being in the Centerville show in 2010 with Eastside Fury. It was incredible to be a part of!

I remember being in that crowd that night and my mind being completely blown by every group. Up until that point the only PIW or even PSW group I ever saw was BK and Northglenn.

Chris gave me private lessons in High School. I can say- I learned more from him in one hour than I did from my HS instructor over 4 years. Very Smart dude!! glad to see you guys all collab!!!

One of my favorite indoor shows of all time!!!

This year at DCI 24 I'm fairly certain I accidentally bumped into your guest there cause I was repping your sweet sweet gear in the lot. For fans on the fence: The shirt is comfy, very comfy.

Rip the Centreville Preview Show

something I've been thinking.... I'd like to see a little side series of you guys playing a lick or feature from a past show, and breakdown a little bit on ways you approached thinking about it to help you learn it, or how it was presented at first... and maybe a little story behind the grind and how it came to be or whatever. every player has their own way of looking at music, and it's fun to hear people's different processes to meet up at the same place together in the end.

Ok, now I have questions after that ending.

Has anyone else taken the snare to guitar musical journey? A lot of transferable skills and knowledge

lol talk about GRIP IT n' RIP IT! lol dayum that's a ton of notes

Northwesssss(whistle)t - "Jim Marlin"

love ya dudes.. I appreciate the content as always. Chris, you played in some of my favorite groups, and it's fun to hear some background stories behind moments I've observed on the surface for years!

For The Holidays Algorithm!

16:39 ugh those shots

Digging in.. good assessment. Alot of the rolls back then were "sticked"... Mostly for volume sake. Love the appreciation you both have.

yo they played for 12 minutes straight and it was all great. wow

Great episode!

Such a great conversation! So insightful on a culture that, like you guys, I knew existed but didn’t have much exposure to. Keep doing God’s work 💪 y’all have a Merry Christmas!

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Proud of this dude, Shawn was my first percussion instructor when I started at Bethel High School and he laid the foundation for the Drumline as it is today. And his work with the Drumline influenced the band as a whole. I attribute the quality and success of my band program to the example set by Shawn and the percussion students during the years he worked for me.

I'm late on seeing this, but I'm the director at Bethel High School, the host of the competition where MD is doing an exhibition in this video. You should check out all the great lines in our competition and, of course, the INCREDIBLE Bethel "Stick and Groove" Drumline.

This is a great and much needed convo! I'd love to see you all cover North Carolina Central Univ's "DOA" section. While Norfolk and A&T are rivals, NCCU and A&T literally hate each other and are only 45 mins apart. Similar styles, but differing approaches to their musical interpretations.

Loving that HBCU drum lines are getting love for sure

This is probably the soundest snare drumline in the DCI. All the snare drummers demonstrate EXCELLENT basic technique--which reduces the risk of developing severe neurological injuries in the arms. Practically all the other DCI snare drumlines I have seen have poor basic technique: poor grips, poor motion, etc. If I was a DCI judge, I would disqualify nearly all the corps in DCI because the snare drumlines are trained in a way that greatly increases the risk of repetitive motion disorders. This is the ONLY DCI snare drumline that does it right. I am the Ghost Drummer of New York--and if you are a DCI snare drummer, you trace your lineage to me through my students. I know what I'm talking about. I sincerely hope these snare drummers become drum instructors.

Great video! Looking forward to all you guys doing a reaction video together.

Love it! Please keep exploring this. I grew up going to Alabama State games as my father was an alumni. Years later I marched Spirit (drummer) and now serve in leadership so you never know where it can lead you. Would love to see comparisons and contrasts of different groups to learn more about the styles.

You guys should check out war and thunder Drumline it’s a very unique style a drumming that involves a very of a funky feel

Ayyyyy that’s my rookie brother! Behold!!

Thanks so much for doing this! I love hearing about this style of drumline too.

Please bring on Jake Gall!!

Awesome vid fellas! My name is Alex Blake. I would love to also possibly help shed some light on the differences between the HBCU culture (Showstyle) and Drumcorps culture. I actually attended and marched at Norfolk State on tenors and with Shawn while we were in school and I also marched drumcorps for 10 years starting in 2000. My last couple of years I marched tenors at Boston in 07 and Blue Devils in 08, and 09 when we got an Undefeated corps and Drum title. I have a pretty large spectrum in understanding the merge of both worlds in my life. I think its awesome that you two have been so willing to tap into understanding what the showstyle community brings to the "drumline world".

I'll never forget when Hampton University stopped at Morehead for a rehearsal day on the way to an away game somewhere in the late 90's. A bunch of us hung out and watch them rehearse and had a blast watching them do what they do. We were totally hyping on it.

Salute to MDFS and Aged Out. A lot of good knowledge dropped in this conversation.

Like I tell folks all the time HBCU percussion is modern day martial arts with drums. If you watch old martial arts flicks with the various practitioners engaging in different styles of defense from Iron fist, eagle claw, drunken master, tai chi, wing chun, Mantis, Jeet Kune Do….. this is identical to HBCU percussion. The drums, mallets and cymbals are basically weapons on display with sounds and movements and sticking to show their way of force or musicality. Like the styles of defense vary in different regions in Asia it’s exactly like that in this culture. You go a state over they have the same nomenclature of drums but sound different ie: MDFS and Cold Steel. But you go a whole region over they may practice something totally different and sound totally different. The grooves are different, the sticking is different, the movements are different and presentations are different and can be influenced by a host of different things for example. A lot of the Florida HBCU bands have members of Caribbean decent who have attended the institution and bring cultural influences from the Bahamas, Cuba or Jamaica. You can hear the island influences in their literature by tuning of the drums to mimic or have the essence of a steel pan for their quad players . Regions definitely a huge influence in the culture.

Bro is dope fasho!💯

I feel like DCI and WGI could use a bit more "invoke emotion" and a bit less spandex and eyeliner. Change is all well and good, but tradition and great shows are just as important.

Thank you for this! Shawn is a pillar in our community and deserves this! Incredible conversation about different percussion cultures!! Shoutout to Aged Out!

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