Thank you for this! Shawn is a pillar in our community and deserves this! Incredible conversation about different percussion cultures!! Shoutout to Aged Out!
Proud of this dude, Shawn was my first percussion instructor when I started at Bethel High School and he laid the foundation for the Drumline as it is today. And his work with the Drumline influenced the band as a whole. I attribute the quality and success of my band program to the example set by Shawn and the percussion students during the years he worked for me.
My elementary, middle school, and high school experience in percussion was to learn rudiments young including traditional grip and sight reading ability. By the time I was in high school I was writing and performing with marching, Orchestra, and Jazz band. Steve Campbell my high school instructor had us playing at a very high level plus we could switch out snare and bass drum players as needed especially for indoor events! It helps to be proficient all the way around!
Awesome vid fellas! My name is Alex Blake. I would love to also possibly help shed some light on the differences between the HBCU culture (Showstyle) and Drumcorps culture. I actually attended and marched at Norfolk State on tenors and with Shawn while we were in school and I also marched drumcorps for 10 years starting in 2000. My last couple of years I marched tenors at Boston in 07 and Blue Devils in 08, and 09 when we got an Undefeated corps and Drum title. I have a pretty large spectrum in understanding the merge of both worlds in my life. I think its awesome that you two have been so willing to tap into understanding what the showstyle community brings to the "drumline world".
Yo Alex! I would definitely love to see you on here. Could you also try and get Tim Green on here too. Those Black Fire vids were so inspirational man and a turning point for HBCU drumline culture.
Love it! Please keep exploring this. I grew up going to Alabama State games as my father was an alumni. Years later I marched Spirit (drummer) and now serve in leadership so you never know where it can lead you. Would love to see comparisons and contrasts of different groups to learn more about the styles.
Such a great conversation! So insightful on a culture that, like you guys, I knew existed but didn’t have much exposure to. Keep doing God’s work 💪 y’all have a Merry Christmas!
I'll never forget when Hampton University stopped at Morehead for a rehearsal day on the way to an away game somewhere in the late 90's. A bunch of us hung out and watch them rehearse and had a blast watching them do what they do. We were totally hyping on it.
This is a great and much needed convo! I'd love to see you all cover North Carolina Central Univ's "DOA" section. While Norfolk and A&T are rivals, NCCU and A&T literally hate each other and are only 45 mins apart. Similar styles, but differing approaches to their musical interpretations.
Grace Notes - I just went to the donation site and I’ve seen no donations since 2023. Just watched your video from a year ago with teacher McNutt from Boston.
I feel like DCI and WGI could use a bit more "invoke emotion" and a bit less spandex and eyeliner. Change is all well and good, but tradition and great shows are just as important.
Like I tell folks all the time HBCU percussion is modern day martial arts with drums. If you watch old martial arts flicks with the various practitioners engaging in different styles of defense from Iron fist, eagle claw, drunken master, tai chi, wing chun, Mantis, Jeet Kune Do….. this is identical to HBCU percussion. The drums, mallets and cymbals are basically weapons on display with sounds and movements and sticking to show their way of force or musicality. Like the styles of defense vary in different regions in Asia it’s exactly like that in this culture. You go a state over they have the same nomenclature of drums but sound different ie: MDFS and Cold Steel. But you go a whole region over they may practice something totally different and sound totally different. The grooves are different, the sticking is different, the movements are different and presentations are different and can be influenced by a host of different things for example. A lot of the Florida HBCU bands have members of Caribbean decent who have attended the institution and bring cultural influences from the Bahamas, Cuba or Jamaica. You can hear the island influences in their literature by tuning of the drums to mimic or have the essence of a steel pan for their quad players . Regions definitely a huge influence in the culture.
@@agedoutpodcast their maybe some kind of ebb and flow between simplicity/difficulty of the parts and difficulty of the sticking and movements in which these things can swap per cadence but for the most part it’s like sub genres within one culture. Also some HBCUs lines don’t have dense material like MDFS and CS. But the members of those other HBCU lines have the individual skill level of MDFS or CS but just elect not to go to the Norfolks or NCAT for numerous reasons. I know for myself the only reason I didn’t go to NSU/MDFS was because of the distance. So I never considered them. Would’ve love to play for them. I had the skill level however my college was a state over with a 3 hour drive and Norfolk was a 12 hour drive away. So Alot of players with those skills settle with schools within their vicinity as well. It’s not uncommon for players to come from entirely different stylistic region. Some travel great distances to be apart of percussion programs. It’s just the maximum distance was 8 hours for me. Lmaooooooo
Thank you for this! Shawn is a pillar in our community and deserves this! Incredible conversation about different percussion cultures!! Shoutout to Aged Out!
Proud of this dude, Shawn was my first percussion instructor when I started at Bethel High School and he laid the foundation for the Drumline as it is today. And his work with the Drumline influenced the band as a whole. I attribute the quality and success of my band program to the example set by Shawn and the percussion students during the years he worked for me.
My elementary, middle school, and high school experience in percussion was to learn rudiments young including traditional grip and sight reading ability. By the time I was in high school I was writing and performing with marching, Orchestra, and Jazz band. Steve Campbell my high school instructor had us playing at a very high level plus we could switch out snare and bass drum players as needed especially for indoor events! It helps to be proficient all the way around!
That’s a good foundation for suren
Ayyyyy that’s my rookie brother! Behold!!
Salute to MDFS and Aged Out. A lot of good knowledge dropped in this conversation.
Awesome vid fellas! My name is Alex Blake. I would love to also possibly help shed some light on the differences between the HBCU culture (Showstyle) and Drumcorps culture. I actually attended and marched at Norfolk State on tenors and with Shawn while we were in school and I also marched drumcorps for 10 years starting in 2000. My last couple of years I marched tenors at Boston in 07 and Blue Devils in 08, and 09 when we got an Undefeated corps and Drum title. I have a pretty large spectrum in understanding the merge of both worlds in my life. I think its awesome that you two have been so willing to tap into understanding what the showstyle community brings to the "drumline world".
Love it! I’ll find you on IG and send a message
Yo Alex! I would definitely love to see you on here. Could you also try and get Tim Green on here too. Those Black Fire vids were so inspirational man and a turning point for HBCU drumline culture.
Love it! Please keep exploring this. I grew up going to Alabama State games as my father was an alumni. Years later I marched Spirit (drummer) and now serve in leadership so you never know where it can lead you. Would love to see comparisons and contrasts of different groups to learn more about the styles.
Such a great conversation! So insightful on a culture that, like you guys, I knew existed but didn’t have much exposure to. Keep doing God’s work 💪 y’all have a Merry Christmas!
Great episode!
I'll never forget when Hampton University stopped at Morehead for a rehearsal day on the way to an away game somewhere in the late 90's. A bunch of us hung out and watch them rehearse and had a blast watching them do what they do. We were totally hyping on it.
Oh dang, that’s a small circle moment for the ages!
Thanks so much for doing this! I love hearing about this style of drumline too.
Nice episode‼️
Great video! Looking forward to all you guys doing a reaction video together.
THE GOAT SDH 🤝🏾💰
This is a great and much needed convo! I'd love to see you all cover North Carolina Central Univ's "DOA" section. While Norfolk and A&T are rivals, NCCU and A&T literally hate each other and are only 45 mins apart. Similar styles, but differing approaches to their musical interpretations.
Bro is dope fasho!💯
Grace Notes - I just went to the donation site and I’ve seen no donations since 2023. Just watched your video from a year ago with teacher McNutt from Boston.
Dudes, I am not trying to blow up the spot for Shawn...BUT y'all have to check out BCU's homecoming block from 2023.
You guys should check out war and thunder Drumline it’s a very unique style a drumming that involves a very of a funky feel
Please bring on Jake Gall!!
The goat
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Goat🐐
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THAT DUDE 💯
I feel like DCI and WGI could use a bit more "invoke emotion" and a bit less spandex and eyeliner. Change is all well and good, but tradition and great shows are just as important.
Like I tell folks all the time HBCU percussion is modern day martial arts with drums. If you watch old martial arts flicks with the various practitioners engaging in different styles of defense from Iron fist, eagle claw, drunken master, tai chi, wing chun, Mantis, Jeet Kune Do….. this is identical to HBCU percussion. The drums, mallets and cymbals are basically weapons on display with sounds and movements and sticking to show their way of force or musicality. Like the styles of defense vary in different regions in Asia it’s exactly like that in this culture. You go a state over they have the same nomenclature of drums but sound different ie: MDFS and Cold Steel. But you go a whole region over they may practice something totally different and sound totally different. The grooves are different, the sticking is different, the movements are different and presentations are different and can be influenced by a host of different things for example. A lot of the Florida HBCU bands have members of Caribbean decent who have attended the institution and bring cultural influences from the Bahamas, Cuba or Jamaica. You can hear the island influences in their literature by tuning of the drums to mimic or have the essence of a steel pan for their quad players . Regions definitely a huge influence in the culture.
That’s good stuff!
@@agedoutpodcast their maybe some kind of ebb and flow between simplicity/difficulty of the parts and difficulty of the sticking and movements in which these things can swap per cadence but for the most part it’s like sub genres within one culture. Also some HBCUs lines don’t have dense material like MDFS and CS. But the members of those other HBCU lines have the individual skill level of MDFS or CS but just elect not to go to the Norfolks or NCAT for numerous reasons. I know for myself the only reason I didn’t go to NSU/MDFS was because of the distance. So I never considered them. Would’ve love to play for them. I had the skill level however my college was a state over with a 3 hour drive and Norfolk was a 12 hour drive away. So Alot of players with those skills settle with schools within their vicinity as well. It’s not uncommon for players to come from entirely different stylistic region. Some travel great distances to be apart of percussion programs. It’s just the maximum distance was 8 hours for me. Lmaooooooo