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Imo this is missing rev lights. Would still love to own one though

VR always worth a try, cheaper than 3 monitors

Just bought the bundle that comes with the blue F1 v2.5. This is the first set up I've ever owned. I didnt want to have to upgrade in the near future so I went with this. And I was right. I went big or went home not settling for any of the older DDs. The CS DD+ is absolutely amazing!

Wow the negativty in the comments. Your video was helpful to me. I know aluminium profile rigs are better but what i want to know is can i have something that will meet my needs and not be unnecessarily big and complexed.

Why does your dd+ go all the way around when turning on? Mine goes half way then goes back and stays in place. Most ive seen do it my way. Are you on a different firmware? Just something I noticed doesnt really matter since it works either way but yeah lol.

Comparing 230 euro wheelbase to 1k one, I sure hope so there's going to be a massive difference lol

Other than that the wheelbase works great lol. This after basically completely slamming the csl dd. Mmmmm... Right !

👍👍👍🥰🥰🥰

People just dont get it. Ill also never unsrrstand people that turn dampening all the way off and ruin alot of the center forces with spring and dampening turned all the way down. You want those center forces of torwue so when you turn in if it does go loose yku know its grip or understeer snd you can catch it. If the wheel itself is lolser already its harder to tell much harder. So i love center torque it helps me be faster truely. But of course yall can turn dampening down im nust stating the whole turning everything off that just doesnt work like some think. Ypu wont get more detail. Once you get dampening right the details will still come trhough but more counter weight. Sure to much actually dampens things but the right amount is so so nice. Ive told everyone there is a reason early on dd wheels were all made with higher torque dd is meant to have that its so smooth and it isnt a belt being pulled by a motor creating forces. So its just really different. You need like 10 to 15nm to get a true dd experience and get all of the benefits that comes with.

race location?

I went from DD Pro 8nm to DD+ and i think this upgrade was a great one. DD Pro is still a good wheel base, but good is he enemy of great. Im keeping my DD Pro as a spare.

2D newer be so immersive like 3D 360

This is the first wheelbase ive ever gotten that made me instantly faster. It's the knowing where grip is at all times. You can feel where you sre at when pushing super hard at the limits of grip and it just holds on stronger and longer then other wheelbases which usually loosen giving a slight understeer feeling around some corners yet this wheelbase doesn't do that. It always feels connected it's probably the least understeer feel ive ever had from a wheelbase due to feeling like I can control every little movement of the car. People say power doesn't matter but after experiencing this I think it does. I think the motor being able to hold the condtant torque is what helps the feeling of control. If you don't feel that weight or wheels you don't have that same control it's like every movement gets felt. When looser it feels like you have to over use the wheel. But there is a happy medium with this base yku don't need to use it at 15nm its way to heavy of a 15nm base for most to enjoy that but the power of it helps you use it even at half power. It has this perfect balance of free flowing while sligjtly dampened giving a super polished feel and tons of details. While feeling the weight but also being able to whip it around when needed. I mean its the only base that I've used that I could catch slides on f1 2023 no other wheelbase does the feeling of losing traction you can't feel with other bases. And f1 2023 has always had a slight lag so this wheelbase helps alot tbh. Idk how to explain it better then what I have. The most simple of answers is you feel much more grounded. Also for those cswv2.5 lovers out there if you get this hit me up in the comments or on my page I found the settings that make it feel identical in weight and feel. It's 50%50 so wheelbase not 100% like some say 50/50 works really good with this base. It won't over work you ans you still get that weight when needed with all of the detail you could ask for! Turn INT to 2 or 4 depending on what you like it allows for much more raw ffb details to come through then the stock INT at 11.

Just started Sim Racing and went VR to save space! I also play on a single 4K 55' oled television when I want to jump right in for a quick spin.

Thank you brother! Needed this!

I went from the CS V2.5 to the CS DD after 6 years and it is like getting new glasses , it's so crisp and responsive , easier to catch a spin and now find I can get the car to drift in iRacing, I also got myself the Mclaren gt3 wheel . this was a big difference in controlling the car , far better with the wider rim than the V2.5 wheel (that now feels like a toy)

I honestly can't believe that u think 8nm isn't enough. Real track car steering wheel force is generally between 8 and 11nm.(this is stated by a gt3 driver) What are ur lap time gains with 15nm over 8nm?

I was thinking to upgrade from csl dd to this, but I already invested in QR1 for both my wheels. Since the fact that you invested so much money into their ecosystem means nothing to them and they can't give you a good price on qr1 -> qr2 swap + they charge so much extra on this base compared to competition - selling my 2 wheels + booster kit + csl dd and going somewhere else is a better financial choice. I also don't trust them with their quality - plastic QR1 was a trash and the fact they were OK with selling this to 8nm wheelbase should be punishable. Also the C clamp that doesn't work and fragile connectors at the back.

Please correct the video title, it's the Clubsport DD+ (you missed the +) 😎 BTW I have the GT DD Extreme bundle, and also the McLaren GT3 V2 wheel, and they are awesome 😁😁😁 the McLaren wheel also works with the Crew Motorfest (the GT Extreme wheel has a bug with that game on both PS5 and PC).

Do you prefer the McLaren wheel over the v2.5x wheel ?

Which one lasted longest before failures and glitches? It should be Junk Vs Junk for those that love to throw away money on false claims and overpriced cheap equipment with no quality control made by a company that provides no customer support after sales. The internet is fairly well up to speed on just how crap Fanatec is now, no one should be buying this junk with better options out there.

Great video, I look forward to seeing your GT7 video.

A very important consideration.... game compatibility. Its pretty sad game capability for VR on PC is so spotty. Many more games support triple monitors.

Should’ve kept the 4080 aluminum for future sfx150 motion actuators.

Still love the gt3 idc if its more plasticky I always find myself grabbing that over the 2.5x. Everytime not even joking lol The reason the 2.5x felt firm and more detailed ffb is its smaller thats how it works.

I currently have the BMW GT2 and Formula Carbon and am upgrading to the QR2. I really want to love my formula rim but it is just too small, especially after jumping off the 320mm BMW rim. I tend to spin the car turning too quickly into corners or not catch slides smoothly because I can’t power through the FFB smooth with its smaller radius. I’m sure with some driving time I would adjust but I really wish they offered a 300mm formula option. Odds are I will end up selling it off and giving the McLaren a shot in hopes I can switch between the two wheels for different events and still keep my muscle memory. Lots of people seem to like it.

I agree with you. I am still in a quandary as to which one to get. I want the podium module as well, but the McLaren wheel doesn’t take it, but the formula wheel is small. I currently have the Clubsport RS Wheel and would like a formula wheel, but still undecided

Csl elite lightens when you understeer also..

VR is more fun but it’s more faff and I don’t improve when using it. Triples are just nice and convenient. Single is enough to be fast, even irl you don’t look at the car too much, you know where they “should be” and if they aren’t most of the time a wider fov just means you have a better view of your impending doom.

To answer your question at the beginning of the video... It because you have a boring ass rig... There only a steering wheel. Not even a shifter LOL

What about the 57” ultrawide Samsung monitor ? No bezels, no hassle,…

In 2d the imagination is missing. With Tripple I sit in the living room with 3 monitors that I drive around. As if the living room is the car. In VR I sat in the car in 3D and felt like I was on a race track. I'd rather give up my steering wheel and play with the keyboard again than ever go into a race with my living room again.Furthermore, 3 monitors cost significantly more to purchase and the electricity price. It's unbelievable how much space is wasted in the apartment. And all those unnecessary cables...

What size triples do you have?

i love both VR and 55” triples. depends on the itch which one to use.

Funny. I did the exact opposite exactly for the same reason. Had a top of the line VR headset. Triples = more serious, more accurate, more convenient, my focus is on the race, allows me have dozens of buttons mapped and overlays on different screens. VR = the technology is clunky. Performance is unstable making it a distraction. FOV is not good although similar to helmet. You need to remove your headset many times to switch between races. Cables on the back of my head while seated annoyed me. Multi-hours session are not comfortable. Immersion is breathtaking at first, but then it breaks quickly when helmet glitches, the wheel you see is not the wheel you physically hold, your physical handbrake/seq shifter is not where you see it in the car, etc. When performance mattered more than immersion, thats when i knew VR was not for me. VR was for me like an intense honeymoon. Once youre past that, then you realize it doesnt fit well in a very expensive hobby such as sim racing. And once i tried Triples, omg i'm not going back anytime soon to VR.

Which monitor would you get ? Im currently shopping as i sold my va panels

What monitors are those? Been looking for something big with a high refresh rate.

Both suck! Buy simagic gt Neo with maglink for $300-310

I prefer VR always, but it does affect you with fatigue and potential motion sickness after a while. Honestly its the only drawback for me, but this is solved with 15 minute breaks out of the headset between races

I thought about Triple screens a while back, but the immersion of VR is much much better than staring at distant display screens. Plus VR headset takes up no room needed. Been doing VR for quite a while and really enjoy it. We are actually sitting in the cockpit with VR, not with display screens. Display screens do look cool when setup right, but that is about all they do. I do have just a single screen to do PC Windows stuff when not gaming. End of story.

VR all the way. awesome for cockpit games.

Bigscreen Beyond VR headset

Great Video, thanks

Triple screens offer sim racers a superior setup with a wide, consistent field of view for enhanced spatial awareness, reduced motion sickness, and greater visual clarity without the enclosed limitations of VR. They are ideal for long sessions and competitive racing. While VR impresses with deep immersion, triple screens provide practicality and performance, making them the preferred choice for those prioritizing functionality, comfort, and a seamless multi-monitor racing experience.

First of all, You should use Virtual desktop with pico 4 coz with the cable the quality is -%70 .

I can't go back to using a Monitor. Just recently switched from the Reverb G2 to the new Meta Quest 3. The Meta Quest 2 was slightly worse then the Reverb G2. The Meta Quest 3 together with the OpenXR Tool, wireless and 120Hz is really impressive. But you have to charge it for longer sessions.

Hands down, VR.

I prefer VR myself. I had an Oculus Rift S for about 6 years. Absolutely loved it. I decided to upgrade to a Varjo Aero when it went on sale. Best upgrade so far. Everything is so clear inside the car. With the Rift S everything was blurry after two car lengths forward, even inside the car. Dials were difficult to read. Not anymore. See you on track.

I choose VR every single time over monitors but its not for everyone. Some people can't handle VR and some can't deal with it for prolonged periods of time. I went from triples to VR and never looked back. There are definite drawbacks though, visual fidelity being one of them, you need to have a pretty beefy system to get the best VR experience for sure, since you are essentially in some cases running dual 4k monitors at 90hz and some of the newer headsets even more. So if you have a system that can barely push one 4k monitor at 90hz, VR will not be a good experience for you. I have been running a HP Reverb G2 now for 3 years and I still find it hard to upgrade it I think its the best bang for your buck VR headset for Simracing especially. The field of view is not the greatest but most of the headsets arent and the ones that are you give up things somewhere else like weight/size/price etc...

Triples for me