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I could gift someone my zs10 pr0 if you think the zs12 pro x would be better than those for gaming. Really want your opinion.

The zs10 pro already are a bit on the bright side and give me great game positioning so if ZS 12 are brighter especially in treble that would be a no go.

You hit on two complaints, no controls and no detachable cable. I think iFi does their thing but I like vol controls. I like Max though, more than the original.

I doubt it, graph looks like old TRN and its up there in price. Yep, interesting config if they can pull it off

Yes, not quite like an open headphone, but if you hold the back up to your ear, you can hear the music. Same goes for isolation

It happens to be one of my favorite cables so it just sits on my desk.

No waifu but the name is from a movie reference: The naming rules of the ET142 model follow the naming rules of the LV426 planet and the LV223 planet that appeared in "Alien: Prometheus"

It looks a bit larger than the ea500LM. Is it?

A 1DD isn't really going to be an upgrade over a planar unless the planar has timbre problems. If you like PRX, Zenith isn't a downgrade, but technically not as good as a planar. Its a great DD though for people who hate planars.

Part of me thinks we will see more planars but not sure. We had quite a few release in a short period so maybe that continues, maybe it is done for now.

The two aren't radically different, get the cheaper one. I happen to prefer Wyvern but as I said, too close, you wouldn't need both. If you want something more detailed, less bass, that is 7hz Zero or KZ Libra X

As I understand it they are the same shell/driver/foam so you can EQ a Pro to be a 2024.

@ yes ok but which is newer? If we buy normal s12 is it 2024 always?

@ the 2024 is the newest release.

My opinion, S12 2024 is tuned slightly better than S12 Pro. The problem is there is no graph accurate enough to EQ one to the other but the drivers should be the same or very similar. There was also more variation on the S12 Pro and I think S12 2024 was more consistent, perhaps the drivers were checked. Being friends with Mike Bruce, S12 Pro variation is a real thing as I had touched a lot of sets.

@ Oh this is interesting! I knew about the S12 variation but wasn't aware the 2024 had reigned it in. I suppose making a limited run makes that easier?

Same, why I put it at the end of the feature list. I think it would have been fine just as a new LDAC earhook.

Planars and microplanars are getting really hard to just look at graphs. They tend to not graph as expected so it does take a bit of explanation and as I said, take a look at the brand's own measurement as well

it is already known that 711 couplers aren't very accurate in the treble. 5128 measurements should be more indicative.

P7? Maybe Odysee? Just got it but the volume might work better. I think the Meta sets tend to have the same problem, the relaxed upper range needs more volume

Too midcentric, all the mids is what I usually say. Slightly unforgiving on some tracks but generally I turned it up more than down. Glad to hear you are enjoying them

Does the sound leak on this IEM? and how loud? would the person beside me will hear what I'm listening? Sorry for many questions, but im really interested on this set.

@@lisfos7428 I does leak a bit more than a typical closed back earphones. But only slightly so. One can hear what is playing within a few inches in a very quiet environment. Keep in mind that many recent earphones with DD have compensation vents on the outside to avoid driver flex and sound distortion. That already leaks some sound. Would I wear P50 when going out, on public transportation, on the plane? Most likely not. It also lets outside sounds in. And I would not care about big stage and/or technicalities on the go. I use cheaper and more comfortable earphones for that.

EPZ uses decent 10mm DD so that should work and the midbass is probably fine, just tick up the sub. But yeah, that is why I said it the way I did, great set for one person may not be for the next but EQ bass is easier as you said.

Carol. Never heard space travel but my gut says look at the bass curves, one might have more bass than the other

Hmm, kinda goes back to P50 tuning, its more midcentric and Hype 2 is not, closer to U-shape like other sets. I am a sucker for these microplanars though, I'd probably take P50 and EQ the bass if you want it closer to Hype 2. I like the Hype 2 DD also. That is a tough choice as I like the mids more on P50.

Would like to know this too. If the open back is only a design element or if it's actually functional.

@JoseFerreira-zb7wh he already said in the review that this is actually real. But this also could be the weakest point of P50, if it's actually let the outside noise come freely compared to the traditional design iems, while listening not in perfect conditions.

@@uglyfate1326 sorry, didn't get that part.

Yeah its more open than I assumed. I assumed it was a decorative mesh over a small opening but I think its more open and will affect isolation.

@@PaulWasabii that can actually be a good thing. I don't use iems when walking around because i want to remain aware of the surroundings (people, cars, animals, etc.) Isolation can be a security issue in this context. I usually use earbuds in these instances. Now i'll try iems 😀

Yes as I like a more even balance to jazz, avoid the bigger bass shelves which tilt the balance. The microplanars and bass shelf help hear the nuance and micro details on instruments.

​​What would be your top recommendation for jazz. For acoustic piano trios mostly. 200-300​$. My current favorites are the cadenza 4, s12 2024, fiio FD15 and dunu kima 2 @@PaulWasabii

It would make sense to own both P7 and P50, but I would buy P50 first as that is different from the P5 which you have. As I said, volume plays a big part in both sets, most people are either lower or med/higher.

Yeah, SM4 is quite energetic. I think someone will do a meta that doesn't need as much volume but for now, they are all tilted similarly which is harder at low volume.

@PaulWasabii do you listen at higher volumes or low volumes Paul?

definitely Bro.

I was interested and then not after a couple friends said the bass is the weak link on that set. I don't need a lot of bass, but it needs to have balance for most genres and that one seemed to have an issue.

@@PaulWasabii Understandable I also heard that this iem is cable sensitive (BangsAudioReview and others said that the default cable was dampening the treble and bass). Anyways thanks for the respond

​@@PaulWasabiiTo my ears I don't think at all that the bass is weak and well controlled and deep.

EQ just change tonality

@Tzen_g7 Do you EQ? Because that's not true. You can change anything with EQ. It's not always easy, but you can.

Its not really an upgrade but slightly different as its BA+microplanar. Unless they botched the tuning on T10, the techs should be similar. If you can EQ, I would try P50, its a revealing tuning and might work well on T10

@PaulWasabii thank you. Maybe later this year they will release something that IS an upgrade, but at the same level of.price...

That is the $300 question, and I don't have a Volume S yet. My issue is I would probably take the microplanars over BA only. I think Jay said something about the two, maybe Tonedeafmonk did or will. I am hoping to borrow one later but I am hesitant on it right now. For now, I think there are some nice DD+BA hybrids so more interested in the sets that bring something new.

I like the set, but would have been happier with mp5

To be really honest, I am not sure what that 200hz is on KB02. Zero Red is the crossover point. I also questioned why it didn't appear in some other measurements. Its not quite like Zero Red though as if it is there, it appeared very narrow. To me, its a mystery, possibly anomaly.

@@PaulWasabii Indeed. The best thing would be to have the possibility to compare two units and see if the difference can be heard. The lowest level of the 'notch' falls exactly as where the level of the midrange is, that's why I suspected it to be deliberate. As you mentioned in your video, the graph of the upper midrange is also deceptive, but others have mentioned this but not the 200Hz notch. It would be great if you have the chance to compare it to another unit to see if there are discrepancies!

Nah, not worth it.

@PaulWasabii thanks. I appreciate the feedback. I was thinking a modern day set like Sonus by 7hz for 50 bucks might actually be it's equal. That's sometimes on sale for 40 ish dollars too.

My gut says Delci AE is closer to Klean and farther from the warmer Zenith, I'd actually stick with Delci AE but if you want to try a KZ, the Libra X would be good for gaming,

@PaulWasabii @PaulWasabii thanks u for ur response, i was curious cus generally pin point precision is like the only real thing always lacking in Kz iems (probably they just put drivers in a shell without thinking to much about how positioning them).

Nothing wrong with Nicehck, I have more than a few myself

KZ Saga Balanced or Vader Balanced. Castor Pro is fine but its bass heavy

Nope, only have AN01

Yes, PRX is a planar and higher sound quality than most of KZ's hybrids. The problem is it will need more volume from your phone or dongle

@@PaulWasabii thank you for the reply