I went back to KB07 but starline are ok too. As I said, it is a set where you need to get the depth right in your ears and KB07 are a bit flatter. I used foams for a while too as they don't build pressure, but will change the tuning a bit. As I said, a bit trickier than I expected.
@@PaulWasabii Thanks I have never been able to get the best eartip fit with the AS16 Pro that's why I asked. Settled on Dunu Sancai but they need resitting every so often.
Probably but also going to change some other range I bet. I'll put it on my squig tomorrow or the next day. Its rare that a hybrid doesn't change but KZ also uses their own circuit for tuning.
If you are used to big DD with heavy bass shelf, they don't do that. But KZ's prior higher level BA sets can hit surprisingly hard. Kinda why I said that, some people really like a BA set with a high level. People say the same on planar but planars scale quite high in subbass without distorting.
Yea… not for me. I generally prefer plenty of bass. The AS24 on DUUU/DDUU which boosts only the bass and ultra-high was my favorite setting. And it still could have used more bass IMO.
OK, you aren't the target for Sonata and why I said that line, if you prefer the older bass levels, Sonata won't be your thing. There is still some EQ potential on AS24 bass, and Sonata as well. But stick with what you have.
It is quite difficult to find the perfect match, a Sonion on bass and the tuning at the level you want. But KZ's bass drivers aren't that far and probably the cheapest sets with BA bass drivers to try before dropping more money.
That one is moreso for the people who want to dip their toes into all BA. Your only other option around that price point are T800/CVJ Kumo with branded drivers (Knowles), 8BA's but 2019-ish stock tuning - 160$-ish on Ali with codes. The cheapest 14BA is probably the Cantor which really isn't "cheap" for 99.9% of people. 800$ for a pair of earplugs is kind of nuts. H16 and DT400 both use "custom" drivers but are rather cheap for all BA's so thats an option. The ones that fit your criteria start at around 350$ with the DM8 and that price range is already pushing the limit of most people who simply don't feel comfortable spending that money on pair of Chinese earplugs.
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Been waiting for your video.
I started with kz, would love to see them in prime form.
Well the next set is days away so we'll see
KZ has made great strides. At least that's evident from the packaging and accessories.
Yes, they have dabbled in both ends, very low cost, less waste and some upscale packaging like this one.
Nice review, Mr. Wasabii!
Been waiting for this
First timebseeing this cable on kz.
Usually optional on the higher priced KZs. Like the Hydro.
The cable itself has been around a long time, paired with sets, only recently. You can find it sold separately as I bought it many years ago.
Thanks for the review. 👌
Which tips worked best for you?
I went back to KB07 but starline are ok too. As I said, it is a set where you need to get the depth right in your ears and KB07 are a bit flatter. I used foams for a while too as they don't build pressure, but will change the tuning a bit. As I said, a bit trickier than I expected.
@@PaulWasabii Thanks I have never been able to get the best eartip fit with the AS16 Pro that's why I asked. Settled on Dunu Sancai but they need resitting every so often.
Will an impidance adapter change the bass response?
I think so
Probably but also going to change some other range I bet. I'll put it on my squig tomorrow or the next day. Its rare that a hybrid doesn't change but KZ also uses their own circuit for tuning.
@@PaulWasabiii now kz merga gets massive bass boost with a 75oHms impedance adapter
Paul, by sound wise, how it is different with the Libra X coz I've checked your squig? worth the money?
Worth the money to people who want to experience a full BA set. Otherwise keep enjoying the Libra X
Am i correct in assuming iems with BA's only are shit in the bass dept?
If you are used to big DD with heavy bass shelf, they don't do that. But KZ's prior higher level BA sets can hit surprisingly hard. Kinda why I said that, some people really like a BA set with a high level. People say the same on planar but planars scale quite high in subbass without distorting.
Kz BA10 had awesome bass. (Still the best KZ set) KZ can do bass really well on BA sets.
None V kz? Hmmm.
Right, odd but they have been using more treble control lately.
Yea… not for me. I generally prefer plenty of bass. The AS24 on DUUU/DDUU which boosts only the bass and ultra-high was my favorite setting. And it still could have used more bass IMO.
The zs10 pro 2s were a big disappointment for me. Even 1,2 up 3,4 down, no bass. I gave them away
OK, you aren't the target for Sonata and why I said that line, if you prefer the older bass levels, Sonata won't be your thing. There is still some EQ potential on AS24 bass, and Sonata as well. But stick with what you have.
I will only get an all ba set that has Sonion for the bass. The ones kz use are just weak and lifeless.
Sonion isn't better.
It is quite difficult to find the perfect match, a Sonion on bass and the tuning at the level you want. But KZ's bass drivers aren't that far and probably the cheapest sets with BA bass drivers to try before dropping more money.
That one is moreso for the people who want to dip their toes into all BA. Your only other option around that price point are T800/CVJ Kumo with branded drivers (Knowles), 8BA's but 2019-ish stock tuning - 160$-ish on Ali with codes. The cheapest 14BA is probably the Cantor which really isn't "cheap" for 99.9% of people. 800$ for a pair of earplugs is kind of nuts. H16 and DT400 both use "custom" drivers but are rather cheap for all BA's so thats an option. The ones that fit your criteria start at around 350$ with the DM8 and that price range is already pushing the limit of most people who simply don't feel comfortable spending that money on pair of Chinese earplugs.
I have big ears and I use large/XL tips but that shell is sttil to large and uncomfortable to wear.
I said that part for potential buyers and part for KZ to start getting that feedback.