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Neoden YY1 pick and place machine follow up video 1
As requested, a post honeymoon follow-up video on our YY1 pick and place machine.
One thing to consider when listening to me is that I design and manufacture amateur pick and place systems, as well as other mechatronic systems and I write my own code, including user interfaces. What this means is that I have a better understanding than most about what to reasonably expect from a machine in this price range.
03:00 Getting ready to run after being in a cupboard for 2 months.
05:00 Tip regarding adjustment of the placement locations
07:35 Running the job again with next to no preparations
13:28 debriefing the first run (actually about 120 boards later...)
16:52 Alignment of the PCB origin rail
20:50 PCB rotation, and my plan for better initial setup with custom fiducials
27:15 Tool changer alignment
30:42 Custom tape feeders and removal of the vibratory feeder
Thanks!
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Neoden YY1 pick and place machine: Setup, calibration, tests and review!
มุมมอง 16Kปีที่แล้ว
UPDATE! Neoden contacted me and said that I don’t have the proper nozzle for 0201 (CN030), so that’s even more impressive if it was doing it with a nozzle that’s technically too big (CN040)! This video is basically my review of the entry level Neoden YY1 pick and place machine. The Neoden YY1 is a dual nozzle PnP machine that uses drag feeders, cut tape holders, vibration feeders and bulk bins ...
CNC machine coolant upgrades!
มุมมอง 1.5Kปีที่แล้ว
Added a second coolant pump, NexGen C-thru, Swarf Diablo and a Siemens Logo mini PLC to our Syil X7 in hopes of improving its chip management. We also make some adjustments to our Accublast coolant nozzle to use the cleaning function.
Basic 4th axis CAM walk through
มุมมอง 5512 ปีที่แล้ว
A brief walk through of setting up a 4 axis cam part in fusion 360.
A brief example of the Bullet Racing Siemens 808D custom screen set.
มุมมอง 6372 ปีที่แล้ว
Quick and dirty example of using the Siemens custom screens that I helped Bullet Racing with. Unscripted so don’t mind the poor camera work and bouncing around from thought to thought. Check out their channel here: th-cam.com/channels/8no6zEpRCHx6e_ZEuK53bw.html And their website here: bulletracing.team/
Syil X7 808D post processor update: Probing from target WCS.
มุมมอง 5912 ปีที่แล้ว
Another video demonstrating the newest post processor updates, specifically probing from Fusion 360 and using the probe on the target work coordinate system.
Syil X7 808D post processor updates 2021-10: PROBING
มุมมอง 9062 ปีที่แล้ว
This video demonstrates the probing functionality we have built into the Syil X7 808D post processor. Using this new feature requires that the Pioneer probing macros be installed in the USER CYCLES folder in the 808D control (reset control after pasting), and a Pioneer probe, or other probe (such as the Drewtronics wireless probe), be installed. For more detailed information please refer to thi...
First PCB assembly with my new pick and place machine design!
มุมมอง 1.2K2 ปีที่แล้ว
New pick and place head design/ frame/ vacuum adapter/ CP40 nozzle holder designs!! None of this would be possible without the amazing openPnP software! openpnp.org/ Machine design- FREE BOM! www.betztechnik.ca/store/p44/Parametric_pick_and_place_(PnP)_machine_design_with_BOM!.html Machine frame plate kit: www.betztechnik.ca/store/p48/Pick_and_Place_machined_X_and_Y_motion_plates.html PnP head ...
Tool setter/ Haimer/ Wireless probe setup
มุมมอง 2.2K3 ปีที่แล้ว
A video explanation of how I setup the tool probe, Haimer and spindle probe on my machine. 00:00 Introduction 01:18 Master tool concept 02:05 Tool length offsets 04:02 Setting the length of the master tool 15:33 Calibrating the toolsetter using the master tool 20:29 Using the master tool to set the length of the Haimer 31:04 Setting the length offset of the wireless probe 36:00 System variable ...
Siemens Auto Servo Tuning AST
มุมมอง 2.8K3 ปีที่แล้ว
A quick-ish video on using Auto Servo Tuning (AST) on Siemens controls. The video also touches on Cycle 832 (1:08), backing up your control (3:15) and opening conversational windows on post processor posted files (13:31).
Syil X7: Two years later.
มุมมอง 12K4 ปีที่แล้ว
Here is the follow up to my 2 week review video, as I was getting a lot of requests for it in the comments. So here is my 2 year review! Since the X7 has changed dramatically in the last couple years, I focus less on the technical details of the machine and more about general aspects. Mlock 125 Slim: mlockvises.com/mlock-125slim/ Drewtronics wireless probe: drewtronics.org/s5100-wireless Pionee...
Accublast: General overview and demonstration of “twitch” function
มุมมอง 1.5K5 ปีที่แล้ว
Brief walk through on the setup of the unit and first video showing twitch mode.
Accublast Update. X7 coolant system upgrade.
มุมมอง 8925 ปีที่แล้ว
New display enclosures are complete. Also switched out the coolant system on the mill. 25l/min pump swapped for a 50l/min pump. Lines all swapped out for 5/8” ID hydraulic hose and added a selector valve for the washdown hose. Don’t mind the drip from the nozzle, it’s one that I messed up the threads on so it doesn’t seal perfectly.
Syil X7 machining aluminum.
มุมมอง 3K5 ปีที่แล้ว
Haven’t posted much machining videos lately so here are a few videos of the X7 cutting aluminum. First big part using the AccuBlast programmable coolant nozzle too. Also the first video of the new turret jet size on the nozzle. Much better coolant flow.
AccuBlast remote control coolant nozzle first use in program
มุมมอง 1.6K5 ปีที่แล้ว
AccuBlast remote control coolant nozzle first use in program
BTI remote coolant nozzle beta group video.
มุมมอง 1.6K5 ปีที่แล้ว
BTI remote coolant nozzle beta group video.
Mlock 125 slim vise review and testing on the Syil X7.
มุมมอง 3.9K5 ปีที่แล้ว
Mlock 125 slim vise review and testing on the Syil X7.
Parametric spindle and bed warm up routine. Siemens 808D
มุมมอง 2.3K5 ปีที่แล้ว
Parametric spindle and bed warm up routine. Siemens 808D
More aluminum machining on the Syil X7.
มุมมอง 1.2K6 ปีที่แล้ว
More aluminum machining on the Syil X7.
Now we’re tapping with gas!! Syil X7 with Siemens 808D, changing the index search speed
มุมมอง 5K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Now we’re tapping with gas!! Syil X7 with Siemens 808D, changing the index search speed
Syil X7 accuracy tests
มุมมอง 9K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Syil X7 accuracy tests
Slotting aluminum on the Syil X7.
มุมมอง 8946 ปีที่แล้ว
Slotting aluminum on the Syil X7.
Calibrating the Pioneer TTC-200 tool probe on the Syil X7 with Siemens 808D control
มุมมอง 4.6K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Calibrating the Pioneer TTC-200 tool probe on the Syil X7 with Siemens 808D control
Peck drilling 😒, chamfer 😴, peck tapping 😱😵💪🙌
มุมมอง 1.1K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Peck drilling 😒, chamfer 😴, peck tapping 😱😵💪🙌
Machining aluminum with the Syil X7
มุมมอง 2.2K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Machining aluminum with the Syil X7
Syil X7 drilling and rigid tapping a fixture plate.
มุมมอง 8076 ปีที่แล้ว
Syil X7 drilling and rigid tapping a fixture plate.
1/4” contour cut on the Syil X7
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1/4” contour cut on the Syil X7
First production parts off the Syil X7.
มุมมอง 2.5K6 ปีที่แล้ว
First production parts off the Syil X7.
Rigid tapping at 1,000 RPM with the Syil X7 (Siemens 808D Advanced).
มุมมอง 1.9K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Rigid tapping at 1,000 RPM with the Syil X7 (Siemens 808D Advanced).
Syil X7 first test cut!!
มุมมอง 1.2K6 ปีที่แล้ว
Syil X7 first test cut!!

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  • @denizcancgsar2810
    @denizcancgsar2810 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thaks for the video. If you put the cross hair on the copper, you may use the fiducial as a test point as well..,

  • @d_30_prajwallale73
    @d_30_prajwallale73 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello, I think you missed to program to place at 5th position for 0201 you can count that there are 10 positions to place and 2 nozzles should do full 5 trips but on 5th trip there only one nozzle working you can see at around the 36 min mark of the video. But very helpful video.

  • @INWondeR
    @INWondeR หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this Video... I have a 2020 with full Siemens setup, so I might do Z axis and spindle as well. Think I might have some tiny issues with mine, since I have not done the tuning part. I have tiny issues in Z sometimes.

  • @MicrosiMe
    @MicrosiMe 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How did you fix the tape feeder TAPE pulling problem?

  • @MicrosiMe
    @MicrosiMe 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is great but I cant use it as a reference on how to use the machine. After this one, you must make a new clean video showing the exact steps from the beginning on how to load your CVS file and start from there. Watching this one hour video was not the correct decision to know how to use the YY1. Sorry its so confusing

  • @xierxu
    @xierxu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How cheap is the PNP?

  • @JohnHansknecht
    @JohnHansknecht 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm on the fence about changing to 0603 on some LED's on my boards. I have the YY1, and yes, the demonstration board that came with it seems to show accurate placement,, but I'm very nervous since I have been using 1206 for years. Should I relax and go for it? Also, what is your favorite solder paste? I've been using the NC191AX35 63/37 T4 from Chipquick (leaded), but I would like to go lead free if I find something with good wetting. I have an improvement of the light filter on the downlooking camera of the YY1 in one of the videos on my page. It greatly improves the ability to find fiducials.

  • @BHSAHFAD
    @BHSAHFAD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how is it with placing 0402 components?

  • @JohnHansknecht
    @JohnHansknecht 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have two questions I hope you can answer. #1, do you find the tabletop adequate, or do you think it would be better on a sturdy stand that has an opening for the used tape to pass through? #2, what is your favorite solder paste? I'm using ChipQuik NC191AX35 that flows well, but it is 63/37 lead and I'm interested trying some lead-free.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have no issue on the bench. In fact we pick it up and store it in the cabinet each time. It’s well engineered and rigid. It wiggles and shakes on the bench but that doesn’t seem to hurt its performance. We use GC-10, but we don’t have a ton of experience with other pastes to compare. We have no issues aside from a pretty hot reflow temp that must be hit for it to flow.

  • @bzolitb
    @bzolitb 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the reel feeder custom made or come with the machine? I would appreciate the 3d model for them.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They are 3D printed from the factory and I doubt they would share the files.

  • @electrodacus
    @electrodacus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Was this full speed ? Seems like only around 1000 components / hour much less than claimed 3000 components per hour.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Definitely not full speed. We favor reliability over speed. I will have to check but I think this might be 80% ?

    • @electrodacus
      @electrodacus 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 Makes sense to run a bit below 100% for reliability. But even if this is the default 70% is still much slower than spec and this will be to slow for me so will need to look at some other alternatives.

  • @mortaldrumming
    @mortaldrumming 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for your videos about the YY1. It would be interesting to "reverse engineer" the feeder modules. From the video, it seems that a piece of sheet metal (with something on it) is used as a spring to keep the tape in place. I'll patiently waiting for the follow up video 2.

  • @fog152
    @fog152 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    thank you for your efforts. although the size and price is right for me, I decided I will not but this machine. all plastics are 3D printed parts which has their unpredictable tolerances, that's maybe ok for first machines but a company who cares about it's customers should replace with proper injection molded parts. And the QFP that don't align.. thank you for bringing it up

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It certainly might not be for everyone however its quirks have been surpassed by the advantageous for our use-case. I agree about injection molding the parts. It would make the machine a lot more stable, however I must say that we’ve been quite pleased with the drag feeders. Maybe every run of 60 or so boards we might have to swap friction rings on a couple of peeler gears. For us it’s not so bad compared to how we used to do it.

  • @StephenB-vm9pt
    @StephenB-vm9pt 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you!

  • @djnorm98
    @djnorm98 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the nozzle station alignment, you need to line up nozzle 1 with the center screw (x and y). You can't use the camera. I know it sounds screwy, but that's the deal.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will have to check that out! I certainly didn’t seem to be anything on the camera so that makes sense.

  • @infinitemachinery7409
    @infinitemachinery7409 ปีที่แล้ว

    I also bought a YY1 this year. Your videos have been essential in helping me understand the machine and its quirks. Once you understand its limitations and how to operate it, it's a pretty nice machine. I have it setup now for doing two different boards. Once thing that still irks me is that it will not remember the pick position for the 'flexible feeders' between power cycles. I find I have to reset these positions every time I start the machine. What are you using for labeling your feeders? It looks sharp.

    • @xierxu
      @xierxu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What is the cost?

  • @jon_raymond
    @jon_raymond ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the update! Looking forward to future updates.

  • @dankodnevic3222
    @dankodnevic3222 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please, give us some update?

  • @simonethomson2871
    @simonethomson2871 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the only well detailed thing I can find on the Internet about using this machine. We have a question about what pitch is appropriate for 0402 feeders. Is this something you're familiar with? Trying to find super detailed info on this is rather lean.

  • @MrMesVentes
    @MrMesVentes ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm working with a Neoden assembly line at my job. It consist of a Neoden S1 pick and place and a Neoden IN12 for the reflow oven. The software on the S1 just isn't good, at least not as good as the one on the machine you're using. It does the job but only when you went through *EVERY* problem the machine will have in a production. Great hardware ruined by poorly done software.

  • @smartelec
    @smartelec ปีที่แล้ว

    No automatic calibration, and no detection if the circuit board is twisted, that's shit. It's better to spend a little more money for a machine that can do that.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      There’s no question that if you have demanding requirements you should probably buy something more advanced. But if you don’t, then is it worth it?? I did hear somewhere that they are working on dual fiducial alignment, I will ask them about it. I would have thought there there’s no chance of your panels being skewed in rotation, I thought all you’d get is an offset in X and Y. If it’s common for boards to be rotated it could explain why we aren’t placing TQFP 24 perfectly… I will have to investigate further.

    • @smartelec
      @smartelec ปีที่แล้ว

      @@betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 I think it works for smaller PCBs well. But when you have bigger PCBs there might be problems? I don't know why they implemented the fiducial check with two or three fiducials. They told me that's not easy to implement and there is another camera required. I don't understand this, because it's also possible to pick up loose components. So the fiducial measurement should be no problem. I think only one fiducial as you say should also work. But then is a fixed zero point needed. Better then nothing. The other thing that bothers me is the calibration of the nozzles and the pin. Why they don't use the bottom camera for calibration like any professional machine does? I know that the YY1 is cheaper compared to other PnP's. But they should have invested a little more time in the software. Then it would also be a real reason to buy.

    • @JohnHansknecht
      @JohnHansknecht 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      How big of an idiot would you have to be to put in your PCB skewed? I have a simple TM240A that had no vision, and I never worried about a skewed board because it snaps into holders with spring loading. My investment paid for itself 50X over and now I'm upgrading to the YY1.

  • @KK3DTechnology
    @KK3DTechnology ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello sir can you share with your prusa 3D printed design...?

  • @KK3DTechnology
    @KK3DTechnology ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello sir hope you are reply for prusa i3 3D printer cnc cuting pat

  • @Display3000
    @Display3000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your review and going through the first steps is really very well done and detailed. But new tools are always great ... after a few months, sometimes it looks different and frustration or disappointment spreads in some aspects that you did not see in the beginning. It would be really nice and helpful to get another video with some distance from the honeymoon. Thanks in advance for that!

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Couldn’t agree more! We have one mostly filmed. Maybe it will be done by the end of the week.

  • @711212171
    @711212171 ปีที่แล้ว

    I don't know if neoden sent you a "perfectly assembled" machine just for the review, because I got one and it was a whole mess... X and Y belts weren't tightened enough, the head even vibrated while moving in the Y axis. Repeatability was totally none.... eveytime we pointed to a component, position was different... everytime!!!. Needle gets sometimes stuck when it goes down, you have to "push" it up so it goes back Left motor sometimes misses some "steps"... and you have to calibrate the machine again. Nozzle station position was totally wrong.... how we made it work?... who knows!!!. Getting the machine to translate the components' centroids from your CSV file, was a huge problem... (we use EAGLE and they told us that it was designed for Altium's files), we made an Altium Designer Pick and Place file... and didn't work either!!!... When we finally made it to "interpret" the centroids' coordinates of the components... the machine wasn't able to "read" the rotation values correctly, so it set all the rotation values for every component to 0°. So, now that you show the machine working Perfectly fine just after unboxing it.... even without vision system sometimes... I simply don't know what to think nor what to say....

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well I obviously can’t say for sure. I did discuss videos with them first, so maybe they spent a little extra time on ours? We just found our nozzle station was off too. I might be able to put that in our follow up video. As far as board files, I just looked at their demo file and rearranged the columns of what KiCad spits out. 5 min job. I can actually automate the process but haven’t bothered as we do production not prototyping. Sorry to hear you had trouble (not saying ours was perfect, just better than expected for the money!)

  • @marcos1alexandre2
    @marcos1alexandre2 ปีที่แล้ว

    BRAZIL RIO DE JANEIRO . MAIS UM INSCRITO POR CONTA DESTE VÍDEO.

  • @km20061234
    @km20061234 ปีที่แล้ว

    Glad you are able to share your experience with the yy1. I have been considering it, but concerned about the tape cover winders and the single fiducial alignment. I am just south of you in Kamloops!

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It’s not perfect but it’s been working well for us. The QFP 24 processors usually need a slight bump with the tweezer to align but the other parts are usually no issue at all.

  • @heel57
    @heel57 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are probably getting a YY1. Are there any accessories you would suggest to add to the standard model? I am planning on getting more trays and cut-strip feeders as these appear handy for small prototype production.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I would agree to get some extra cut tape holders! I might make some CNC machined trays for larger IC’s.

  • @heel57
    @heel57 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very useful video - thanks for taking your time to do that. I did not quite understand what went wrong at @1.03 where the needle appears to slam into the panel. I assume it is some error but what provoked this.?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      That is how you calibrate the feeder needle. In slams down to make a mark that you then find with the camera. It’s aggressive because it’s a solenoid. Works great!

  • @idiotscholar
    @idiotscholar ปีที่แล้ว

    any updates?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I do have some updates. I’ve got some more footage and updates, will have to make a new video.

  • @ianbraithwaite1472
    @ianbraithwaite1472 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can anyone tell me the max PCB size the YY1 can handle? And the smallest pitch components it can handle?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have answered that in more detail in another comment I think. I recall 18 x 18 which is TQFP 144 I think ? It does 0201 but I’m not sure about min part pitch. I’ve got the vision working for large IC’s now but there is still an alignment issue, more like rotation but I think it’s the pcb alignment rail. Investigating and will report back.

  • @kungfumaster8171
    @kungfumaster8171 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the largest part that can be placed, assuming of course you have to use a different feeder i.e.TQFP-100?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      According to the specs, it can place a maximum of 18mm x 18mm square, which would be TQFP-144 I guess. I did figure out my vision issues with the larger parts and it’s working now. Will do an update video. The TQFP’s I’m placing aren’t 100% perfect but I’m suspecting it’s because the PCB rail isn’t 100% square to the X rail.

  • @infinitemachinery7409
    @infinitemachinery7409 ปีที่แล้ว

    Many thanks for this video! It just so happens that I'm taking delivery of a YY1 today. Your video has provided a wealth of practical information and has boosted my confidence that I made a good decision to purchase the YY1.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Congrats. I just ran another small job the other day and it went quite well. Hope you have the same luck as me with the machine!

    • @infinitemachinery7409
      @infinitemachinery7409 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 The YY1 arrived and there was some shipping damage to the bottom camera display, which prevents me from doing bottom camera calibration. Neoden USA instantaneously responded to my email about this (in the evening!) and had a replacement display panel ordered within the hour. I was still able to get the demo PCB placement working, with good results. I also used the tape extenders for mounting in the feeders. I found that you need to be careful and not have any of the adhesive on the extender exposed, otherwise the tape will get wound up in the gears that pull the tape cover.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@infinitemachinery7409 Well that sounds like the best result of an unfortunate situation! I just ran into that adhesive issue today, definitely a thing, haha.

  • @progamers3203
    @progamers3203 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, very impressive. Feeders look different. They look wider. Where did you get them and how can we buy? Thank you...

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      The feeders come with the machine. They also sell them on AliExpress I think as well…

    • @progamers3203
      @progamers3203 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 I couldn't find the part on alibaba or aliexpress :( May I ask where you bought the yy1 from?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello again. I looked and I only see their cut tape holders and vibe feeders on their Aliexress store. You should reach out to them to see if they would sell the feeders separately. I bought it directly from NeoDen, You should reach out to Tonny on Skype (tonny-neoden) and see if you can purchase the feeders from them.

    • @progamers3203
      @progamers3203 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 Thank you very much!

  • @jon_raymond
    @jon_raymond ปีที่แล้ว

    This was a wonderful, informative and very helpful video. Thanks for sharing your journey!

  • @sesra5076
    @sesra5076 ปีที่แล้ว

    A big "thank you" for posting this very informative video. I've been considering for some time to purchase a YY1 for my work, and it serves as another mostly positive data point, along with the others. I have a much older Neoden machine that has thus far served me well, but also 'within its limitations', as it does not have vision at all.... and for obvious reasons I wish to upgrade. 0402 parts are a major challenge for it. ( Though I forgive it, for as I age and my eyesight fails me they're becoming a challenge for me as well 🤣) I look forward to more videos should you decide to make them.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are welcome. I’m glad you found it useful. Since you said mostly positive, I feel like I was objective enough. It has limitations for sure, but it is that simplicity that I also feel is one if it’s main strengths! If there is an appetite I can certainly post more videos about the YY1.

    • @HarshadItaliya
      @HarshadItaliya ปีที่แล้ว

      @@betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 that would be great. Also share your last 1 month real use experience as well. I saw some videos where people have issues with peeling plastic stuck to the rotors.

    • @NaveenNaveen-qs2by
      @NaveenNaveen-qs2by ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello sir .. yy1 model How to change camera mode binary to image..

  • @oly463
    @oly463 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Peter , That's a great review just what I wanted to know. I think the "its hammer time " should be added to open PNP drag feeders. Just for sheer entertainment value.

  • @NeoDenSMT
    @NeoDenSMT ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi,my dear friend from Betz Technik Industries Ltd.,thank you for choosing of our NeoDen YY1 Pick and Place machine and nice sharing video.--tonny-neoden

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Our pleasure! In our opinion you guys have made a great little machine considering the cost.

  • @sergea1138
    @sergea1138 ปีที่แล้ว

    I came to the conclusion that, building reliable electric feeder is something very very difficult to achieve with low cost. you end up spending more than second hand electric feeder or pneumatic feeder. I found out push feeders are both reliable and carry reasonable price . I got some feeders from th-cam.com/video/gYJmOeTyd0U/w-d-xo.html . BTW I own your v1 head. your last head will need very little modification to be usable with this kind of feeder. ;-)

  • @jcs-fpv
    @jcs-fpv ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice Video 👍 looks nice

  • @kanoa9321
    @kanoa9321 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not just use the built in Siemens features that do the same thing?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      While a couple of the features could be activated in the 808, the vast majority of things implemented in the screen set would not be possible without the use of the custom area of the control.

  • @Nf6xNet
    @Nf6xNet ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm pretty sure that I want to design and build my own machine rather than get a YY1 (I ordered some of your Juki nozzle holders... yay!). But I still found this interesting and educational. I'm looking forward to seeing more about your experience with this machine.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you enjoy our nozzle holders! I certainly wouldn’t suggest anyone should cancel their build plans, for me this machine is supplemental. I’m glad you enjoyed the video.

    • @Nf6xNet
      @Nf6xNet ปีที่แล้ว

      @@betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 Thank you! I didn't order other items because I'd like to make some different design choices, but I have found your whole open-source build to be very educational and inspirational. 🍻

  • @joesmith2465
    @joesmith2465 ปีที่แล้ว

    ya just need a carwash spin attachment and hook to one of those lines that would clean it

    • @joesmith2465
      @joesmith2465 ปีที่แล้ว

      or like a sprinkler

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes for sure, lots of options if you have some pressure and flow to spare, which I do not! This system allows me to flush a small area at a time as to not empty my tank. I don’t think my tank is even 60L.

    • @RobertBrown-lf8yq
      @RobertBrown-lf8yq ปีที่แล้ว

      Peter…. good solution to the ‘minimal flow’ situation with our ‘Iron Syils’ 👍 I went old school with an external 1/4 hp pump, rigged up to side manifolds with four adjustable nozzles on each side . The inside of my X7 looks like the control room on a WW2 sub 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Biggest problems with these models, is the ‘flow Shute’ fitted into the basin casting. It cuts down the free area for coolant/chips flow into the tank. I removed mine, then did some ‘surgery’ to the webbing on the underside of the shute and CI ‘basin’ to try to prevent coolant ‘running’ along the webs. That bloody steel insert also created a 1/8” step around the outflow 😱 ( acts like a chip dam 🤬). Judicious use of a by-pass on my pump helps regulate the flow to keep at least some coolant in the tank. The sight glass is a great idea too mate… might copy that myself 👍 Regards Robert

    • @MrRctintin
      @MrRctintin ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice job. Never seen that Siemens Logo before, that’s a smart little device. The X7-20 has good chip flow away, but would definitely benefit from some spray bars along the back to help clear the bottom.

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertBrown-lf8yqHi Robert. I know exactly what you mean about your mods. I did them all myself as well! If you look when I film in the cabinet, that chip chute is sitting in there. Haha. One thing I noticed is that the pump is very far off the bottom of the tank. I might 3D print an extension on the bottom and see if that helps. It starts foaming when it is pulling air.

  • @edmundzadurian8908
    @edmundzadurian8908 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for your honesty and the video you present and you just mentioned the important key subjects which could impact the production somehow,, I used to be a Tool Maker and Mold Maker. I’m in a different career now but always following up the CNC world news and videos you people post from all around the country, hopping to have my own little Machine Shop and make something

  • @RobertBrown-lf8yq
    @RobertBrown-lf8yq ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Peter, Hope all is well with you? Great vid mate 👍 On another matter, I’ve just received a Facebook ‘friend invitation’ from a ‘Kimberly Betz’. Any connection to you? Regards Robert

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi Robert. All is well. Quiet on social media as I’m in this weird phase where I don’t want to post anything because I know it’s not polished…. I’m in canada, only a few Betz’s that I’m related to here, there are more in Germany though (where my dad is from).

  • @diycnc3442
    @diycnc3442 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is that ticking noise?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Super super old video so I can’t say for sure but I was only experimenting with the homing and obviously the pulse settings for the motor were not set correctly yet.

  • @MrRctintin
    @MrRctintin 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for that video Peter, very useful. I’m just at the point now where I’m going to put the 4th axis back into my X7 and start playing around with it. I’ve borrowed a Lang master tool to setup the Lang face plate, then I’ll start making some simple square and hexagon ends to some bar stock just to see how my cam is going. How did these parts come out for you?

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry for the delay! These parts turned out well, you can find them installed on new Mazaks if they picked our telescopic air blast nozzle kit from the factory!

  • @nikhowe2601
    @nikhowe2601 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info and thanks for posting! Which province are you located in?

  • @nerwusek19
    @nerwusek19 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that 808d advanced? You have rotary table and this is 5 th axis ( 808d can use only 4)

    • @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901
      @betztechnikindustriesltd.8901 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually the newest 808DA can have 5 axis simultaneous (spindle is one, as you acknowledge), plus at least 1 more positional axis. So you can do 4+1 machining with this control.