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unrelated question, but how do you get such quick speeds with filezilla? when i do my transfers, it usually never gets past 1mb

its not gonna be maxing out any modern SSD since the PS3 likely has a SATA1 or SATA2 controller which runs at 150MBPS and 300MBPS respectively and its doesn't always perform on its max performance but its still better than an HDD that would normally run at 40-100MBPS depending where on the HDD the data is written on.

Been thinking of getting an ssd for my ps3 for a while now ever since collecting games for the system a few years ago

Considering the scale of GTA 5, I assume the SSD becomes more notable the bigger the game is compared to smaller games.

I slapped a SSD into my One S. Worth it.

2oO6 i was running on pentium II machine back then

SSD speeds may not be a huge difference compared to the HDD but the in-game textures and assets will load in way faster and smoother and the whole system will feel snappier overall.

It seems obvious that it should improve performance. It can't increase the maximum transfer speed limits of the PS3, but certainly the lookup speed, as there is no moving head anymore. I think the instantly loading icons in the GT menu are a perfect example for this. On the HDD, looking up every icon always takes a moment, which is why they load visibly one after another. Also the default HDD maybe doesn't even max out the possible transfer limits of the PS3, but I would think an SSD would basically max out the PS3 storage speed as far as possible.

PS3 has a 1.5Gb/s SATA Port, you are limited in every way, an SSHD would be better.

The SATA interface on the PS3 is only 1.5Gb/s the SSD will make ALMOST no difference that a better HDD can't already offer, but will improve reliability

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While I'm sure the SSD would still beat the HDD any day of the week, I think it was quite unfair comparison with the *retail* HDD being nearly 20 years old (actually impressive it still runs today) that would surely have worn out through all that time. A better comparison would've been a brand new HDD with same capacity vs the SSD.

This may even improve the performance of games in general a little, right?

this guy looks so friendly, i like him

Does PS3 support 4TB?

U could play Infamous 2 first, but play Infamous 1 first if u want to understand more about what's going on, and understand the characters more.

A major overhead factor in load speeds for most PS3 games is the decompression of assets. It doesn’t really matter how fast read speeds are if the data being read isn’t immediately useable, and virtually every PS3 game was made with some form of data compression, even on disc-based games (for some reason), meaning that data can’t just be directly streamed off of the disc, and therefore not off the hard drive either (and any data stored on the drive normally by the game would have been encrypted anyway). This is why PS5 games tend to be significantly larger than their PS4 counterparts - files are uncompressed specifically to minimize load times by eliminating the decompression step on anything that could be needed “instantly” or on-demand. It’s a HUGE difference in philosophy but one that could only be made possible by requiring an SSD. That’s why there’s diminishing returns on older consoles which were never even designed with SSDs in mind.

should've tested LBP3, smh...

This is a great video, it's what sold me on grabbing an SSD for my PS3 rather than relying on the stock drive. I ended up grabbing a 512GB one and it fits every single game I ever wanted to play on it! Regarding the Gran Turismo 6 portion where the icons load in, playing Destiny on PS3 is the same way. Pressing start opens the menu, where by default on the HDD all the icons slowly load in and make the system laggy until they're finished. On SSD, they load in nearly instantly, letting me swap weapons in under a second. It's life-changing!

Imo you should play infamous games in order 😊

I enjoy how you have a little snippet of info and your own opinion with every game you use, Infamous 1 and 2 are great ways to look at the ps3 development life considering infamous 1 was a release title and infamous released near the end of the ps3 life cycle. The ps3 architecture was tricky and took longer to learn how it works compared to other consoles. I also suggest you play them in order, the story would make more sense

i was gonna suggest gta 5, cause if you go fast enough in a car the terrain has a really hard time loading and some serious stutters can happen. at least with an hdd. also i wonder if ps3 model makes a difference cause i was able to get 27MB/s ftp transfer on my slim with a 7200rpm hdd, maybe it was the kind of files but im not sure.

What SSD were you using? Not all SSDs are fast. Some are barely faster than a traditional hard drive.

thank you, i was able to get my cdi files to show up properly named in the menu. i haven't tried SD card maker yet, i have been able to get my cdi and gdi games to register dropping everything manually into numbered folders. but only gdi files work when trying to press abxy start to reset to gdemy menu. i haven't gotten it work work on cdi files. any suggestions or is that just how it is?

Try morowind. It’s loading screens are exceptionaly brutal

Disliked because "an 1TB SSD"

you shoud have tested gta v, that is an actual huge DIFERNCE, not sure about gta IV tho

people dont understand ssds at all as far as sata goes they are only twice as good as a hard drive at sequential operations but for any random operations the hard drive has to physically *find the data on the platter the ssd just gets it as soon as the controller requests it also for loading assets and the ridiculous amount of memory compression that will have to happen the ps3 is entirely cpu bound and memory bound u could throw a gen 5 nvme in and it wont scale at all

Its required if you want to have an enjoyable playthrough of the last of us off internal storage.

SSD is faster but the PS3 wasn’t created for SSD in mind so it has problems. You will have issues playing certain games and especially if you want to play PS2 games. For some reason the emulator does not want to work with a SSD. I like the 7200 RPM HDD I choose. I have no problems playing any PS2 that I throw at it and, yes, it’s not as fast as a SSD but there is a slight speed difference compared to the stock HDD that was in my PS3. Also they’re pretty cheap, easily can get a 1 TB HDD for 40 bucks with great speeds

I fitted a cheap 256GB one years ago, when prices got so low they were peanuts. All modem SATA SSDs would saturate PS3's SATA interface, it was always the random read and write that made PS3 so much faster in XMB. It sped up installation and loading in several games, helping out MGS4 and Gran Turismo 5 in my own tests. GT6 had several infamously huge patches that could crash PS3 if you didn't install one at a time- with an SSD it could manage it all at once.

I know what my next project is going to be.

My only concern is write endurance. The PS3 does not have wear leveling, aka TRIM, so there will be instances where the SSD will be needlessly hammered by writes. That said, the drives are cheap, but it still is something to consider.

I would love to upgrade all 5 of my PlayStations. An SSD for my 3 and 5 is definitely top of the list.

Great video.

Limits of the SATA II i/O .

My PS3 has a 1 TB hybrid hard drive. Before SSDs were cheaper hybrid hard drives or apart regular hard drive part SSD. At the time hybrid hard drives were the cheaper option. Because of that I don't have a reason to switch my hard drive out for an SSD because the difference in read write speed isn't that significant because of how slow the PS3 is. It only recommend going to SSD if you were going from the original style hard drives to it, otherwise there's a significant jump over hybrid hard drives. Of course nowadays if you're going to do it, just go SSD as they are cheap now.

I've been using a 1TB SSD on my hacked PS3 for years, it's easily worth it IMO

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One of the biggest differences for me was dark souls 2, going from disc which loaded 20-30 seconds on deaths or teleporting to about 5 seconds with an ssd

This upgrade has 2 other bonuses that makes it worth it the XMB Menu works better but also games perform slightly better not just loading faster but actually playing closer to what they should've played as since the console doesn't have to allocate as many resources to loading the game anymore once its loaded its loaded

Anyone thats ever played ffxiv on a ps3 when it was still supported knows that an ssd was pretty much required lol. It was ridiculous how long loading times were without it. Like when you queue in a dungeon or w.e it was very easy to tell who was on a ps3 without an ssd.

People always state “it cant take advantage of the hardware”. Those people have no clue, what they are talking about. The menu is improved, pop in is improved, and the screening tearing is gone. So the major complaints are gone. Any game that needs internal storage will see a massive difference. Far Cry for example is such a big difference. The SSD will always perform better. GTA V being installed on the SSD only huge difference in performance, and load times. Im not sure what SSD I put in my PS3 super slim. But theres not really load times. Im doing the same thing to my PS4 to increase its performance, & mainly storage.

Always wanted to do this project myself with my own fat PS3 but sadly I had no controllers and eventually gave up, glad to see someone else had the idea and uploaded it.

I've seen this video. That was really dumb. This guy paid $500 for an S. SD for his PlayStation, 4 for 500 gigs. When it came with a terabyte out of the box, I don't like ssds. Especially if you're getting the same space, just get a hard drive or a hybrid

It's a freaking massive improvement. So much so a few games actually perform better due to less loading pauses dragging the minimums down. It's incredible and totally worth it if you love your PS3. Get one with high endurance. I got a 500GB 860 Evo for mine and it should last the life of the console with care.

On a note, the PS3's SATA connection is only SATA 1 which is only 150 MB/sec. A 7200 RPM HDD does around 170-ish (the stock PS3 is a 5400 RPM, which is 100-ish MB/sec). Plus the PS3 pre-dates TRIM, meaning if it does a classical defrag it will shave massive life off an SSD in the long run. If you want a true improvement, score yourself a 512+ GB 7200 RPM mechanic drive.

not to nitpick, but you pronounce Fthreer weird

I was wondering about that since i got ps3 recently.

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