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Size large, 6 foot.

Totally! Bag is still plenty water-resistant with exposed zips though.

For most people the Beta Insulated will be the better choice. I had a Beta Down briefly and still prefer the synthetic.

The Zeta line has been discontinued…

Glad it was helpful!

Sounds like a Beta AR, the jack of all trades!

Thanks, the 3 mentioned are all somewhat different products. The most versatile would be Kadin as it the true shell which you can layer underneath. Depending on what you're using it for I'd class it as below: Gamma MX: winter active jacket, great shoulder season jacket Solano: nearly waterproof jacket with fleece lining Kadin: nearly waterproof shell with versatility

Veilance Align MX

You should get the Beta AR to futureproof yourself and have an allrounder that can be used for active pursuits. Get this Beta jacket if cost is your primary concern.

They always have the Beta IS at the outlets, but $800 was the price when it first launched in 2022.

Always open to suggestions!

Veilance Patrol Down.

If you’re looking to use the jacket actively I would go with the Beta Insulated. If you’re only using it around town the Therme. The therme is much warmer though.

Large

It is significant bulkier, this is not a jacket you want to keep in your pack. If packability is a concern I would recommend looking at the Nuclei if you're looking for synthetics.

it says in the video at 3:16

All goretex breathes poorly, which is why you need the pitzips. Go for the AR if you want a tougher face fabric, if not LT is the way to go.

Yes it uses a heavier gsm of coreloft in the same zones as Beta Insulated and the core is down has the down fill.

Thank you, will it keep you warm @@abearsmind 5F to -15F ?

@@abearsmindiirc the Macai only has around 65g of down. I think the Beta Down will be warmer (~160g down). The Macai is mostly Coreloft.

@@BlackShama ah yes the down insulated beta will be much warmer than this. i thought @timothybracken1728 meant the beta insulated...

you should look at the beta down insulated@@timothybracken1728

Great to hear! I missed out on the Monitor IS, monitor down is too warm…

Glad it was helpful!

Awesome, thank you!

I don’t think the goretex label tag sewn inside the pockets actually do anything, hence it being hidden. I think you’re good to go!

Thank you Jeff for your quick reaction. Actually the tag (classic gore-tex paper) was just placed inside the pocket and not as usually attached to the item. What makes me worried is that the Sorin has been used before. I know, details. However buying Veilance you would pretend one layer above perfection. The jacket is amazing. thx @@abearsmind

@@DM-mi4mo Ah you meant the Gore-tex labels that is attached to the jacket when new. Veilance always stuffs them in the pockets!

How many layers are you thinking of total? If it is just 1 insulation layer medium should be fine. If you want to wear more or something like a puffy like thorium or cerium you may want to go large.

I have the Proton LT hoody. I'm used to nesting hoods so it does not bother me. Also I always have my helmet on so the hoods aren't really in use while active.

Thank you! That is still my main goal with these videos.

I suppose you could if you're trying to expand the temperature usage range?

its waterproof not fireproof!

Not generally something you should consider when buying a jacket…unless you’re a firefighter

Norvan LD

That would be a brisk walk I suppose? If so around 10-12c and upper end of 15c.

This is the 2022 model, I tried on the 2023 model in store and the difference in fit was marginal for myself. Moving to coreloft 90/100 would make it a touch too warm for some uses though…

The newest version of the Beta Insulated has goose down filling, in the UK currently retails for £820.

⁠@@kw8757For Fall/Winter 2023 Arc’teryx made two versions of this jacket. The one highlighted in this video is an updated continuation of the 2022 model, while this season they also introduced the model you’re referring to which is the Beta Down Insulated jacket. The main difference between the two models, as you highlighted, is the goose down fill versus the synthetic fill, with a couple additional changes including an additional exterior chest pocket

@@stefanluciaan Thanks for the reply, I bought this jacket about 8 weeks ago in sapphire black, which is actually like a navy blue. I'm a Arc'teryx nut, got 6 jackets and numerous fleece tops and T shirts and several trousers. I worked in the clothing trade for 20 years, I know quality when I see it.

That would be the Beta Down Insulated, this one is the synthetic version.@@kw8757

My pleasure!

I've yet to try a Cerium...!

@@abearsmind it’s incredibly light and warm. The fit is exceptional but it’s not breathable. I would say it’s more stylish as well if you’re into that.

Atom Heavyweight or possibly Nuclei SV depending on what you're using it for.

Not sure what you're using it for, Therme SV?