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JK Nex Garage
เข้าร่วมเมื่อ 12 พ.ย. 2022
We are documenting our 1967 Pontiac Firebird restoration. NEX stands for “No experience”. We have never restored a vehicle before and are hoping to help others like us with information on what channels we referenced to complete certain tasks of our build. We also plan on having a lot of fun in the process. Hope you’ll join us. 😀
First Generation Firebird, Camaro Full Rocker Install Update
Once again these aftermarket parts that are already put together, don’t fit very well. After a lot measuring and comparing to the old rocker, I think we have the solution to make it fit. Unfortunately I had to take it all apart first. Oh well. Hopefully this will help others with the same problem.
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First Gen. Firebird, Camaro Full Rocker Panel Removal
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This video shows the process we used to remove the full rocker panel without cutting it into pieces. Having the old rocker all in one piece is going to be a help with measurements to ensure the new aftermarket one fits in just the same. Or close to it.
First Gen Rocker Removal Game Plan
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Thinking about how to remove the rocker and install the new one in the exact same place can be nerve racking. Lots of measurements and making sure to look ahead 4 or 5 steps helps. We’ll see.
Removing First Generation Firebird-Camaro Seat Base
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First time removing this seat base and had a hard time finding some of the spot welds, so hopefully this will help to give you an idea of where they are if your struggling to find them as well.
First Gen. Firebird Door Jam Patch
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Just a quick video on patching the rusted door jam at the rocker. Not sure if we will eventually replace the entire jam with the new quarters, but it was good practice and a good guide for the new rockers.
First Gen. Firebird, Camaro Inner Quarter Repair
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Just a quick video on how we were able to take an inner door jam found at a swap meet and use it to fix a rusted hole in our inner quarter panel.
First Gen. Firebird firewall Install
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Finally completed the replacement of the firewall on our ‘67 Firebird. Hopefully this video and the previous torque box videos will help you get through a complete replacement if that’s what you need. Thank you for watching.✌️
Firewall torque box update
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Wow, this took some real tweaks that I wasn’t ready for. It took a lot of manipulation with the metal, but in the end it was worth it. The firewall and torque box can be installed without much stress from the clamps. I hope this helps if your having issues getting your firewall to fit.
Firewall update
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Quick update on an issue I’m having with fitting the firebird firewall in. Nothing that can’t be fixed. Just takes time. Hopefully this will help you if your having the same issue.
First Gen. Firebird Firewall Removal
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A lot of spot weld removal and a little pry bar persuasion helped get the old firewall out of the car. Hopefully some or all of how we removed this will help you with yours.
First Generation Firebird Dash and Dash Pan install
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The install of our new dash and dash pan went well. Hopefully this will help you get yours installed. Plus don’t forget get the seam sealer if your finishing it completely.
Firebird upper cowl install and jig measurements
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Finally got the upper cowl installed and gave some measurements for jigs to help install your cowls. Hopefully this will help. Thanks for watching. ✌️
‘67 Firebird lower cowl install.
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Finally it the lower cowl installed. Looking back this was pretty easy once I took it apart from the upper cowl. Just make sure you take measurements from points of reference that aren’t going to change. Hopefully this helps with your lower cowl install. Thanks for watching. Have a question? Maybe I can answer, or at least point you in the right direction to get it answered. Leave a comment.
‘67 Firebird Upper and Lower Cowl update #2
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Trying a few things to try and get the cowls to fit in a little better and making sure the new ones have the same brackets, stamps, and holes filled as the original.
‘67 Firebird Dash, Dash pan, and Upper and Lower Cowl Removal
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‘67 Firebird Dash, Dash pan, and Upper and Lower Cowl Removal
Leveling the car before replacing sheet metal
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Leveling the car before replacing sheet metal
Excellent video! Seems it would be better to buy those rockers unassembled and assemble yourself?
You got it. I had know idea when we first started restoring our car that aftermarket parts needed reworking, but I do now. Hopefully this will help someone else making their decision on parts to buy. Thanks for watching.✌️
Great plan on fixing the issues. Love watching you solve the puzzles to make the aftermarket parts fit correct.
Thank you. I’ve never been very good at puzzles, but eventually I figure it out. Thanks for watching and for the comment.✌️
Nice work it’s a shame you had to pull all that apart but it’s for the best anyways, that rust on the bare metal sucks because most will never see it and it will rust thru eventually negating all your hard work, by the way what is an encyclopedia? 😂
Haha😂. Showing my age. I’ve watched many of your videos showing the bare metal under those aftermarket parts, so I wasn’t too surprised. It will be much better now. Thanks for watching. ✌️
Look at all that rust on brand new parts. This is a great example why EDP coating is still not good enough.
Right on. For what these parts cost, you would think they would be coated better. Thank you for watching.✌️
Great info. Thanks
Thank you. Hopefully others won’t have to go through this, but if you do. Maybe this will help. Thank you for watching.✌️
Great video brother Louie from first generation garage.... I hope everybody knows you was mentioning me excellent demonstration of what we have to go through sometimes when dealing with aftermarket panels like I say the good thing is we have these panels to be able to still save our Firebirds I would let you know right now you hit this one out the park great job
Thank you. I assume everyone knows who Louie is, but I will definitely be mentioning first generation garage on the next one. I sure do appreciate your insight on the rocker issue I’m having. Thank you for watching and for your support.✌️
@@JK_Nex_Garage no problem buddy maybe one day I will be famous enough that once you mention Louie they will know I am the firebird guy I appreciate all the details you are putting on your build your car will be one of the best build ever
@@firstgenerationgarage2803I will start calling you Louie the Legend of first generation firebirds. Has a nice ring to it. 😁
@@JK_Nex_Garage I love it
I see you are close to 1,000 subs! I learned something that coupe complete assemblies are available from your video. I think it’s awesome you are building this car with your wife very cool family project. I had a convertible rocker where the outer skin was 1/4” too far back and had to drill all the welds out and move it to correct relocation that was when I found out the entire inside is BARE STEEL. The edp doesn’t get in there.
Thank you. It does take a little longer to disassemble and put back together, but we just want it fit back in the same and to be built properly. Thank you for the comment and encouragement. ✌️
I find I have to sharpen my own drill bits to get any decent cutting.
I have since bought a drill bit sharpener. Cheap bits are frustrating. Thank you for watching and for the comment.✌️
Good thing you decided to remove all that cancer. I hope the floor pans are being replaced too. Glad to see the old Pontiacs being restored.
Yep. Replacing the floor pans as well. Trying to eliminate as much rust as possible. These Pontiacs are really awesome cars and are definitely worth saving. Thank you for the comment and for watching.✌️
Looks great!!! Have you built any of these jigs to sell? I have a 68 Camaro that is all apart structurally and nee some way to align it all up
I have not. I was ask a few times about building more, but I want to concentrate on getting the Firebird completed first. Once the car is finished I may build some. Thank you for your comment. Keep us updated on you ‘68 sounds like a nice project. Thank you for watching.
An amazing in depth video here! It would be great to see the sequence that body assy plants used when these were built by fisher. Am amazed at the similarities of your f body construction compared to the e body ' 63 - 65 buick riviera which has an x frame like impalas of that time. The cowl area is many pieces and rather complex. Your project is coming along very well so thanks for showing us that with patience, good help , time, money , perseverence and resolve things can happen.
Thank you. That is interesting about the e-body cars. Wish I could see how these cars came down the line at the factory and were put together. We appreciate your comment and for watching. ✌️
Great video! What brand is that new fully assembled rocker and where did you order it from?
Thank you. It is a Dynacorn brand and I purchased it from Firebird Central. It’s nice and solid, but you may want to wait until my next video (coming out shortly) before ordering one. It’s put together not so perfect. Thank you for watching.✌️
Absolutely love it! Great Coverage of a task that most these cars need. Keep up the good work. Building your own car you will know what you have when done. As you’ve seen there is a lot of hidden damaged festering inside sometime that some wouldn’t try To fix
Thank you. Sure am glad we took it out all in one piece. Once you see the upcoming videos you’ll understand. Great pumpkin 🥇Congratulations, not surprised. You did a fantastic job on that bird. 👍
Do you think your saving any money buy all the parts and installing them yourself self verses buying one already built, you still like , motor, trans, interior, wheels and tires , paint job, glass,wiring, tail lights, head lights, gas tank, fuel lines, break lines, to mention a few, just wandering
We will see. There are so many areas of rust on this car you can’t see, or would be able to see on a car already done. I’ve always wanted to learn how to restore a car and at the end of the day we will know what we have, and it will be documented. Thank you for watching.
Jim, when you reinstall your rocker, could you give me a shot of what the brace on the inside of the A pillar looks like? I have a 68 Camaro and have removed much of of the same area that you have and am not sure how much of the brace may be rusted away. Thanks!
You got it. If you ned some pictures sooner you can email me at nexgarageyt@gmail.com and I can send you some pictures. Thanks for reaching out and for watching. ✌️
Amazing job, love the fact you go the extra mile with the extra measurements. I will be restoring my 67 soon and all your videos will be externally helpful.
Thank you. That is why we do the little extra details, so people like us (first timers) can feel confident about tackle a repair on their car. Please keep us updated on your ‘67 and thank you for watching.✌️
You guys ROCKKKKKK!!!!
Hahaha! 😂. Thank you. We appreciate you watching and for the comment.✌️
Great work Marine!!!
Thank you. We appreciate you watching and your commitment.✌️
Qhat a great video both of you did a amazing job this will be really helpful for year's to come
Thanks buddy. Hopefully it will help others replacing a full rocker. Having the old one all in one piece is really helping with dialing in the new aftermarket piece. Thanks for watching.✌️
Looks great. You have the extension that is assembled. That is another method of building. Good job on the video!
Thank you. I’m glad we took it out in one piece, so I can take measurements for the new full rocker. You’ll understand why on the next video. Thank you for watching.✌️
Nice work, great instructional guide for those first timers👍
Thanks buddy. The video got a little long, but hopefully it will help others like us. Thanks for your support and for watching.✌️
Measuring is good, but the body will flex with your setup. On a unibody car, the rockers and floor are half or better of the strength. You don't have much floor and you're about to remove the rockers. One thing that will help you keep things aligned is installing and fully adjusting the doors then making a simple brace setup inside the car using 1" square tubing. Span the door openings front to back at about mid height, then between the doors across the dash and across where the rear of the front seat would be. Leave this in while you work on the rockers. The lower you can make this the better, but make sure you can get tools between the lowest point and the bars. I usually make mine about strike plate height. The doors get your gaps right so you know they fit before any work is done. Mark the hinge locations to get them back on in the same place easier. The tubing keeps the body from flexing as you work meaning you won't have to flex it much to keep your measurements aligned. Use this same setup when you're replacing the floor. Since you've done all the measuring, the next thing is to not get too aggressive with your cuts. If there is tension on the body when you're making a cut, the bracing wasn't done well enough. Hope this helps.
I did put some bracing in and I do have the body cart with pins coming up through the frame rails and front torque boxes to help with stabilizing it. I am only doing one rocker at a time to also keep some rigidity. I have also drilled out each spot weld to be able to take the rocker out all in one piece. We really appreciate your help and feed back on our project. It will help us get through this a little bit easier. Thanks for watching as well.✌️
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Thank you. We appreciate you watching.✌️
Hi Jim. The reference measurements are a good idea. If you hang your old door and fit it to the quarter, it will aid when you install the rocker as far as gap and flush to door. The aftermarkets I put on mine required some finesse to make them fit. Sadly, aftermarket is a far cry from factory. Keep up the great work.
Thanks David. You are so right, my new doors don’t fit like the originals. They are surprisingly pretty good. Only needing a few minor adjustments (for now). Thanks for the tips and thank you for watching.✌️
You got this! Measure measure measure! My drivers rocker was removed when I bought it so that was a trick! Love your process
Thank you. That must have been a little nerve racking with no rocker. We appreciate your comment and thanks for watching.✌️
I like the plan and you won’t regret time spent on taking measurements. Then watch the door gap to rocker as you test fit. I think the hardest part is fitting the front rocker extension in place too. I find that I end cutting them off and welding it in separate. Looking good keep it up
Thank you. After looking at the new rocker compared to the old, I may have to do the same thing. The new extension stamping and fender bolt hole is about 3/8” off. Thanks for the comment and for watching ✌️
@@JK_Nex_Garage you bet, I love watching a car come back to life and you are proving it can be done even if starting with minimum experience
Taking redundant measurements is such a wise piece of advice. Having a datum like your cart is inspiring. Great video.
Thank you. I would rather have too many measurements, than not enough. The cart is working out well. Thank you for watching and for the comment. ✌️
Great video, brother 👍 and you are right to measure as much as you can when it comes to these first-generation F bodies none of them are exactly the same and don't get frustrated when you doing this that everything doesn't match exactly to your original measurements it just try to stay within 1/8 and you will be fine
Thank you. Staying within a 1/8” isn’t always easy with aftermarket parts, but a little tweaking here and there makes it all good. Thanks for watching.✌️
I cut mine out of the floor to be attacked at a later date. Great video to anyone re-using the original ones!
I may do that with the drivers side. With the pitting and not being able to see where the spot welds were, I was winging it. Might be able to identify the welds better from the other side. We’ll see. Thanks for watching.✌️
This is great. Been looking for a video specifically about that and here it is. Thank you so much. Im just getting started on my 67 firebird.
Thank you. I was as well and couldn’t find any, so I thought it might help since I struggled a little finding these spot welds. Thanks for the comment and for watching. Keep us updated on your ‘67, and good luck with it.✌️
Great video brother 👍
Thanks. It may seem trivial, and I’m a little embarrassed about struggling with this base. But how else are you going to learn. Right. Thanks for watching.
@JK_Nex_Garage yes you are 100% correct I usually spot weld those areas that you mentioned that goes on top at the end
Hi, The reason for these (`sponges`) they where soaked in water, Was so they "manufacture" could keep welding without warping panel from heat w/out slowing down. A really bad example is 70`s GM`s NOVA`S, CHEVELLE`S, rear quarters between inner and outer fenders at the wheel lip!
Wow, that is very interesting. Makes sense though. Thank you so much for the information. I’m very interested in how these cars were put together from the factory. Now I know a little bit more. Thanks for the comment and for watching.✌️
Following, keep up the good work. I have 69 bird in queue. @ 3:11, I noticed on your blast cabinet what appears to be a light. I have the same cabinet. Is this a light and if so, does it help being on the outside? thanks
Yes it is a light. It’s part of a set of temporary string of lights used in construction. I found it in the garbage at work. I like it on the outside of the cabinet, because it doesn’t get damaged from the blast media at all. Thank you for the comment and for watching. Good luck with you ‘69.✌️
Looking good! Excited to see rocker replacement.
Thank you. Yes, the rockers are going to be interesting and we’ll probably do a few videos to try and capture as much detail as possible. Thank you for the comment and for watching.✌️
Getting it done!!!!! Awesome job guys, little by little!!
Thank you. Sometimes you only have time to do a little, but it’s progress. Thank you for watching.✌️
Good job. Are you replacing the quarter panel? I think that piece comes with a full quarter panel..
Oh. I should have watched the whole video...lol
No worries. The door jam piece do come with the full quarters. Just not sure if I’m going to section in the quarters or replace the whole thing. Thank you for the comment and for watching, we appreciate it.
@@JK_Nex_Garagesometimes the full 1/4 panels have the vent hole punched out in it and this car wasn’t originally configured that way. Not that it would really matter if you added vents but hard core keep it original folks might want to retain the closed door jamb
@@VinylVillageGarage Good to know. I liked the way you sectioned in the Great Pumpkin and I’m leaning in that direction, since there is still good metal in the same areas as that Firebird.
Great patchwork! Looking gd
Thank you. We appreciate you watching and your comments.
Doing great man, it's looking good! I started order the sheet metal for my '69 Camaro since I will be home next month and can finally start working on it. I didn't realize how hard it is to get some parts nowadays. I am gone so much that I don't see that and the grocery prices and everything at home so when I do go home I get a big shock. I probably won't get too much done this trip but hoping to get my fixture mostly built. Take care and keep up the awesome work you two!
Thank you. Just do what you can. Any progress is progress. Thank you for the comment and for watching. Keep us posted on your progress with your ‘69. 👍
Great video and great job on the repair I had to do this numerous of times on birds I like the sound of you mentioning you might get another bird why not you have Kelly helping you it's great to have someone to help you build these cars I wish you guys a lot of luck and can't wait to see it done funny thing is that my wife not wants me to show her how to weld
Hopefully we’ll get another one after this is done. I’ve tried to get Kelli to weld, but no luck so far. I’m just happy she’s willing to help and loves this bird as much as I do. Thank you for the comment and for watching.
Great video! Doing a great job.
Thank you. We are getting it figured out. Slowly but surely. Thank you for watching and for the comment. ✌️
Looks good 👍
Thank you. We appreciate your comment.
Very cool, most of the cars I repaired that foam stuff causes more rust issues and wish they skipped that step during assembly.
Our car won’t see very much weather, so do you think seam sealer would be good enough?
Very true. I bought new patch for the jam and that area is never correct. Nice job.
Thank you. It worked out well. Thanks for the comment.
It was to stop water from getting in there The water comes in from the window and it was to direct the water out of the drain in the rocker
Yup 👆
Thank you for the info. It makes sense. It’s fun learning every little thing about our car as we take it apart. We really appreciate having people with the knowledge to help us out. Thanks for watching and for your comment.✌️
@@badbird2182 That's water 💧 is correct 👌
@@JK_Nex_Garage when you replace it use closed cell foam or seam sealer
@@badbird2182will do. Thank you .
For a small part like that it may be a bit extreme, but they make something called aircraft paint stripper in an aerosol. For something that's small I'd take it outside. Spray it down, strip it that way because there's a lot less energy involved even though you may pay a little more for the stripper.
I will definitely look into that. Thank you for the information on this. We appreciate your comment and for watching.✌️
What a great job brother I need you in my next build you are becoming a great metal guy keep it up and you are right nothing like the original
Thanks buddy. I really appreciate that. It’s a lot of fun messing with metal on this car. The key for me, is to take my time and don’t try to rush things. Thank you for watching and for the encouraging comments. ✌️
This is a good idea but how do you know what the original factory measurments are? Is there a build sheet that has the info?
The measurements I took for this video were just off off our car. I couldn’t find any factory measurements. I figured if I can get the replacement parts back close to my measurements, it should be good. I’m sure we will take more measurements each time we replace something. You can’t have to many measurements. Hope this answers your question and thank you for watching. ✌️
where did you locate the angle for top of riser e ? is the inside of angle even with inside of riser or is it offset for the gap you were trying to achieve
sorry i meant outside of riser
The inside of the angle is about 1/4” from the rise to give some play for the frame rails if needed. The measurement from the inside angle to inside angle is 41-3/4”. Hope this helps.
@@JK_Nex_Garage yes thats what i needed thx for replying back.
Good video. Is one about putting it together available?
Yep. Check out the rest of the videos on our channel, you should find what you’re looking for. Thanks for watching.✌️
Nice job. I always put copper anti seize lubricant on body panel bolts or any bolt exposed to the elements.
Right on. Obviously this bolt didn’t have any and I doubt they put any on at the factory. Oh well. I will be putting some on when I put it together. Thanks for the comment and for watching.✌️