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Honestly if you want to just be a dick and build specifically to win, with the current rules and shooting phases being more deadly than ever, fill your entire list with warp spiders, all shots auto hit, it's D6 shots, that's ALOT of dice for a single guy in a squad, you can teleport in, open fire, overwatch on the same unit to kill what's left, then teleport away before you get pinned. Night spinners for support because not needing line of sight is dumb strong. And if you really wanna be spicy, run some wraith guard, or hemlock wraith fighters just for vehicle/ special character removal. D-scythes are stupid, D6 shots at strength 10 Ap4 (wraith guard) strength 12 ap 4 on the fighter is just laughably mean against tough to crack stuff, and these USED to auto hit 😂! But even still a 4+ BS you will still land roughly half the shots you make without modifying the rolls with strategies or fate dice. Aeldari can be dumb strong as long as you figure out how to keep em alive since they are squishy, and with them about to get new warp spiders plus their phoenix lord, new fire dragons plus fuegan, and new swooping hawks plus baharoth, they are going to be pretty damn strong until they inevitably get nerfed into the ground!

Ok, so, if Final Day didn't just sell me on playing this in Crusade, the 'take a Baneblade Variant to play Brood Brothers as an alt detachment' certainly won it for me.

At this point whats teh point of even buying a codex

Summary: sisters got a waaaagh 😂

4:00 Only cowards hide behind such lies. We play female characters because we want to feel cute for once. In fact, for some people, the hit box is much, much larger around the chest and hips area.

i love sob, but this detachment feels like hard mode for me. I'll stick to hollowed, and faith.

Me after hearing "I'm just into tall guys"

I want Vahl to increase by at least 100 points, simply so she isn't an auto-take and our ENTIRE FACTION is balanced around her... I LOVE the themeing of the Champions of faih, but it sounds like I'll HATE the gameplay. My lethality already felt anemic...

Hello, I would like to know if the Dominion Squad will have 4 with the metal Gun and everyone will have 1 Inferno pistol equipped

The physical codex's made sence when smartphones and portable computers werent really a common thing. But now that they have the app and the infrastructure, and constantly updating the rules to invalidate codexes, it is utterly pointless. Also the fact that you can't pay like £5 for a digital only copy of the codex and you need to buy the physical book for the code in the back, is rediculous.

Retributor squad in immolator < Retributor squad in Repressor 😎

I'm with you on the Paragon Warsuits. They're kinda Sisters' solution to terminators. They can be good; but I just don't like the models or how they fit into the Sisters' general meta mojo. Interesting take on Repentia vs. Sacresants. Repentia are, to me, a very good fit in the Sisters' meta and mojo, so thumbs up on them.

Why not put Retributors in an Immolator if you mind my asking? It seems like a good way to make a particularly deadly block of flamers/meltas, esp with a palatine giving miracles. Sure it makes them a priority target but you can play around that with some good planning.

If it's not a battle sister on or in it, I'm not using it. Paragon Warsuits > Penitent Engines by default.

Honestly with the focus on warsuits, this sounds like classic James Workshop logic. "We must punish Warsuits (and Vahl) because they're in every tournament army! Also here's a detachment that makes them even stronger. STOP TAKING THEM! PLEASE TAKE THEM!"

I find it astonishing how disgraced sisters are better units than the "elite" sisters

The suggestion to play 1k games to learn the Detachment inadvertently exposes another layer of the stupidity of the recent changes- the new Miracle Dice don't scale with game size. Prior to the latest update, as the game got bigger you got more MD naturally due to taking casualties- now, with that capped at 1 per phase, the size of the game doesn't matter. You also illustrate another point, which is that a lot of the people complaining about MD being 'broken' or 'non-interactive' (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean) hadn't bothered to learn how to deal with them effectively. I would repeatedly explain to people that I got a dice for them killing one of my units, only to have them finish off a weak unit before targeting an undamaged one they really needed to get rid of and then be shocked when I used the dice they'd just given me to pass a save and stop that from happening. People also often used to split attacks between multiple units, letting me use an MD on each, rather than focusing one down and making that impossible. There was absolutely nothing wrong with Miracle Dice prior to the last update, Sisters' win-rate was right in the target zone and they weren't dominating anything. Now they're an army where you have to work twice as hard as everyone else to achieve half as much. Vahl has become a walking sticking-plaster on the army, essential because half the time her unit is the only thing in the army with genuine threat, unless you ally in Knights- which further illustrates how weak the actual Codex has become.

Between asking a Sisters player at my Warmhammer store and Reddit Adapta Sororitas Group, I found out that with Army of Faith that you can use your Cherub DURING the hit roll or wound roll phase after Act of Faith Miracle Dice have been used. Then can use the Miracle Dice you got from the cherub and continue the hit and roll phases. So 2 MD hit roll, 1 MD hit roll & 1 MD wound roll, or 2 MD wound roll. I thought I was crazy when I tried to do it. Everyone has seemed to confirm that I can. Also, if I have Dialogus (40 points) to the unit I get 2-6 MD! ✌🏾😁👍🏾 If I'm wrong Christian, please let me know.

My favourite thing about the "sixty Battle Sisters" approach is I wouldn't need to buy, assemble or paint any new minis. I have the 60 Battle Sisters and a few assorted Heroines right there in metal!

Thanks! A year after you made this video its still very helpful for me a complete beginner ! Thank you

The Emperor gives the hardest battles to His most loyal sisters. We must be oh so loyal, because it ain't easy out there.

I still don't understand why Sacresants, who are clearly more armoured than normal sisters and have a MASSIVE full body shield, have exactly the same profile as the average sister (except for the 4++, which only makes a difference if you hit both of them with an anti tank weapon, and at that point there are other much more pressing problems). Sacresants should have either 2+, T4/T5, or W2. Realistically, probably a combination of 2 out of the 3 (realistically something like 2+ and W2). I just don't understand what is the shield doing. What is the extra armour for? Is this caused by them wearing hoods instead of helmets? Then put some goddamn helmets on them! I have tried so hard to make Sacresants work because I like the models and they are some of my best paint jobs, and they are usually between trap and dead weight. One would think that adding something like a Hospitaller or Junith (the Imagifier is not even worth considering for this role) to them would make them super tough with the -1 to wound, etc. But the problem with that -1 to wound is that the worst weapon in the game already wounds you on 4+, with the most common weapons wounding you on 3+, and the rest on 2+. So, yeah, the -1 to wound makes them go from "this is a trap unit, it is here to cause you lose games" to "at least they soaked some damage, I guess". And the fact that you need a character to have that is outrageous. Units of 5 are either way overcosted or useless. Ok, well at least if I attach Aestred, they will hit like a glass truck with the dev wounds and all the attacks and sustained and all of that. What a disappointment when they basically do nothing for 230 points. 230 points! I can get a castigator and a half for that! And that castigator will not only be much, much more resilient, but also deal more damage and help more! Heck, depending on how you play, it might even provide more effective OC. If GW is not going to change the Sacresant's stat line, then they need to be costed like other battle sisters, at 10 p/model. You are trading all your range fire power for a modicum of resilience. It seems to me like a trade off to be considered (and even then, I doubt many people would play them, as Sisters or even the overcosted Dominions give you so much more of what actually wins games, like movement, high OC, meltas, etc). What is ridiculous is them costing 50% than a battle sister, while being exactly as hard to k*ll without a character, and a +16% harder to kill with a character (at which point you are not even costed the same, as the character would add between 50% to 100% of the unit cost, but I digress). And we did not even get Aveline as a permanent option! I was really hopping for her to be added permanently to the roster as she could be quite useful specially in these dire times.

I stopped obeying the errata with all the nerfs and miracle dice limitations - screw that. I played a game yesterday against Orcs using the Codex rules and the point values of 6 months ago and was still soundly defeated: those nerfs and point increases are preposterous in my humble opinion...

I wish, I really, really wish, that they would just change Hallowed Martyrs from "Below half" to "Half or below". That would instantly enable so many more units which at the moment have effectively only half of the detachment rule. You are already in a bad spot if you are half or below, the +1 is not going to compensate that much. I think this change is not going to break the game, and it would feel so, so much better.

18:00 I actually like Paragon Warsuits... but only because I use an alternative model for them and they look so cool. But we have to count of blessings, or in this case, miracles, as it could have been much, much worse. Our warsuits could have been ... like the Grey Knights ones...

Your mic sounds weird. Did you change it? If not you might be too close. Don't eat your mic. It does not nourish you.

I will never understand why Sisters have so poor leadership this edition, they should be Space Marines level at least, if not better! About the Miracle points, if it means better datasheets and the return of hymns, I agree, albeit a bit sad, cuz miracle dice are so unique: we will lose the "normal gal parrying a demon lord", but, then again, "miracle die" of 1s make no sense xD The Emperor actively sabotaging his people?😂⚜

4:29 Where is this artwork from? It looks AWESOME!

given this detachment and the december changes to miracle dice, what's your recommended starter detachment for this army now? I'm looking at getting in to sisters and not sure which to go with. I'm not great with the game, either, for what thats worth

You wrong! We need Paragon Warsiut, this is my favorite model. I love how they look. I love build them. I love paint them. I have 9 of them and happy to bring them to table, even if that not the best option. Yea this detachment is not great, but Paragon Warsiut biggest fun like me are happy. P.S. Anyway, great video :). Need more positive for sisters now.

So, I play Champs, I have 4 games in, 2 more coming this weekend. I love it. By a strike of luck, I have 9 Warsuits ( they are not great looking, but much better as I added new boots and converted their poses) . I have won 2 games, one was nil and lost one. I like the game style, you have to think 2 rounds a head. MD are just points for me. Aestred + Hospy + BSS have been my surprise squad. Valh'n'friends is pure murder. I use Morty'n'Morty'n'Penny as decoys and draw enemies out. All in all, it's been working for me. Taking them in a competition at the end of February 🎉

I have played a few games with sisters since the nerfs and it's... interesting? If anything, I can wholeheartedly say that I actually *love* that MD are an actual resource now. It takes thought and planning to use them effectively, whereas before they were just a spammable ability. It's a lot more engaging now than it was before. There is a flip side though. The best I have done in 4 games is a draw... Miracle dice are a finite resource now, but the army is pointed to have them in abundance. Without fail, I find myself starting to run out of resources by round 3, and be almost completely tabled by the end of the game. The army still scores well enough for the first half of the game, but a fair bit of killing power was in the MD, and there's just so few of them now. If GW wants this to be how MD work, and how many we get of them (I hope so) they *really* need to apply sweeping points cuts across the entire range. Tournaments Shmournaments, you might say, but the first 2 weeks the winrates are in the upper 30s in terms of percentile, and that is very much indicative of a faction that was hit much, MUCH too hard with nerfs.

I’ve been wanting a non penitent melee detachment and warsuits are my fav unit…but can I resist the unga bunga impulse and actually think?

Oh paragon war suits? The thing I bought first and is responsible for all of my wins? The thing that got me to commit to sisters? The “I don’t care what your model is, it is dying and you can’t stop it.” Unit? Yes please tell me about them with the new detachment that makes them better. I want to here how cool they are.

I play Army of Faith and it's doing quite fine for miracle dice, with the ability to generate 8+ extra miracle dice per round between enhancements and stratagems, but other detachments probably just accept that MDs will be very rare and barely used

Lovely May the Emperor Protect Wish our girls were classed only wearing Carapace Armour 4+ Armour Save. And Have an invulnerable 5/6 Holy Save of the Emperor Always thought it would look right with their models, they don't really look like they are in Power Armour. But that's just me lol.

i love sob but the nerfs really made them unfun to play for me. especially when i look at the costs of things in sob compared to my other army. celestian sacresants feel underwhelming compared to lychguard. and many many other things. Feels like they got way over nerfed with the points cost not gonig down. 250 pts for the triumph? oof. it feels like playing without an ability on most leaders.

im not even humoring sisters after the last nerf.... the way i see it, they dont even have an army rule anymore. Junith and Hospitaler are effectively crippled beyond use for lack of dice. Triumph has been hobbled to a point that even a non-competitive guy like me feels gross putting it in a list. All that time painting those fancy models... shame.

I've been waiting for this vid ❤🎉

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great video but fortis still have Pyreblaster AP 0, it should balance too?

At this point the whole Deathwatch codex should be replaced with a single page telling players to use any previous edition of the game. Every time I hear about space marines not counting as space marines, despite the fact that they objectively are space marines, I can feel bits of my soul die.

I started in feb last year and i've noticed the armies I play I've had to re learn the rules for multiple times. Particularly GSC + DW + Sisters. At least they remain novel all year round when you change cult ambush X amount of times XD

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Jesus, they _DOUBLED_ the points cost of the Krieg Engineers.

Agents of the Imperium absolutely drowning out here

What sort of lying shit is this balance points change? Scout Sentinel is already 55 and Rogal Dorn Battle Tank is already 240, not 260 as the sheet suggests..