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The teachings of Gurdjieff , Lara & Noel
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Hi, welcome to the channel from Noel & Lara. Here, we have the fourth way as taught by Mr. Gurdjieff and Mr. Ouspensky."If you're going to enjoy felicity , enjoy it with a bang."
From chapter 42 of the tales , referring to the Tikliamishian comfort sofas which doubled as a toilet.
I was first introduced to this exceptionally beautiful work over 25 years ago , as a young man in my mid-twenties , when a beautiful creature named Michael Proudfoot knocked on my apartment door one evening and miraculously introduced himself. We became very close. As soon as he mentioned the 4th way and Gurdjieff , I knew that my life had changed beyond measure. Michael had spent a number of years working with Madame de Salzmann in Paris. He then chose to spend the best part of twenty years working with me.
To which , I'm in eternal gratitude. There is something which we don't perceive with our five senses. And perceiving it , introduces rapture into one's being
From chapter 42 of the tales , referring to the Tikliamishian comfort sofas which doubled as a toilet.
I was first introduced to this exceptionally beautiful work over 25 years ago , as a young man in my mid-twenties , when a beautiful creature named Michael Proudfoot knocked on my apartment door one evening and miraculously introduced himself. We became very close. As soon as he mentioned the 4th way and Gurdjieff , I knew that my life had changed beyond measure. Michael had spent a number of years working with Madame de Salzmann in Paris. He then chose to spend the best part of twenty years working with me.
To which , I'm in eternal gratitude. There is something which we don't perceive with our five senses. And perceiving it , introduces rapture into one's being
Can being change? The reality of being , Jeanne de Salzmann
Hello and a very warm welcome.
This is the second reading from the Reality of being by Jeanne de Salzmann , chapter 8 'Toward a new being' , section 83 'Can being change?'
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Best wishes ,
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This is the second reading from the Reality of being by Jeanne de Salzmann , chapter 8 'Toward a new being' , section 83 'Can being change?'
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What I really am : The reality of being , Jeanne de Salzmann
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Hello and a warm welcome. The following is a reading from 'The reality of being' by Jeanne de Salzmann, from chapter 7 'Who am I?' section 80: What I really am If you wish to donate towards our work and channel: PayPal.me/noelhermes27 Thank you, all the best Noel & Lara
Gurdjieff on self-observation and the man-machine , the playhouse , New York 1924
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Hello, and a very warm welcome to you. The reading is from chapter 48 of G.I. Gurdjieff's Beelzebub's Tales to his grandson entitled 'From the Author'. If you enjoy our work and would like to donate: PayPal.me/noelhermes27 Thank you All the best, Lara&Noel
An evening with Mr. Gurdjieff in his Q apartment , New York
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Hello , and a very warm welcome. The readings are from chapter 42 of the Tales , Beelzebub in America and Edwin Wolfe's 'Episodes with Gurdjieff'. If you have enjoyed that and would like to express your appreciation you may do so at: PayPal.me/noelhermes27 Thank you , all the best Noel & Lara
"unless a man is horrified at himself" : Ouspensky , In search of the miraculous , chapter 11
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Hello and a warm welcome. The following is a reading from chapter 11 of Ouspensky's 'in search of the miraculous' pages 218-219 , with a commentary from us. If you enjoy our work and would like to express your appreciation you may do so at: PayPal.me/noelhermes27 Thank you All the best, Lara & Noel
Attention is our only weapon : from the notes of Jane Heap
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Jane Heap (1887-1964) worked alongside Margaret Anderson as co-editor of a literary magazine called 'The Little Review' . The pair of them met Gurdjieff in New York in 1924 after hearing of him through A. R. Orage. In 1925 , Heap went to le Preurie to work with him. She led study groups in Paris from 1927 to the early 1930 when she was finally in ,1935 , sent to work with groups in London. Thes...
The Lord's prayer : a fourth way interpretation by P.D. Ouspensky
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Hello and a warm welcome. The reading is from chapter 15 of the fourth way by P.D.Ouspensky. If you appreciate our work and wish to support our channel: PayPal.me/noelhermes27 All the best, Lara & Noel
The synergy of the first and second conscious shock : Ouspensky , the fourth way
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Hello and a very warm welcome. Here we have a talk from the Fourth Way by P.D.Ouspensky about the implementation of the first and second conscious shock and how they work together in harmony. If you value our work and wish to support it for its continuation : PayPal.me/noelhermes27 All the best , Lara & Noel
Michel de salzmann : Gurdjieff as a real threat
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for donatons and to support our work PayPal.me/noelhermes27 appreciated. All the best , Noel and Lara
The first exercise for self-remembering / the big sneeze , wartime meeting 29
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The first exercise for self-remembering / the big sneeze , wartime meeting 29
On being sealed against life : Maurice Nicoll , commentaries vol 3
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On being sealed against life : Maurice Nicoll , commentaries vol 3
A Gurdjieff exercise for opening to a different state of Being
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A Gurdjieff exercise for opening to a different state of Being
"The imprints of conscious labour and intentional suffering", a Gurdjieff London meeting
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"The imprints of conscious labour and intentional suffering", a Gurdjieff London meeting
"the two qualities of self-love": Gurdjieff , wartime meeting 1
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"the two qualities of self-love": Gurdjieff , wartime meeting 1
Negative emotions and the illusion of unity : Maurice Nicoll , commentaries vol 4
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Negative emotions and the illusion of unity : Maurice Nicoll , commentaries vol 4
Suggestions on the right reading of Beelzebub's Tales by Louise Goepfert-March
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Suggestions on the right reading of Beelzebub's Tales by Louise Goepfert-March
Self-remembering and the neutralizing force , Maurice Nicoll commentaries volume 1
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Self-remembering and the neutralizing force , Maurice Nicoll commentaries volume 1
The Gurdjieff all and everything salad
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The Gurdjieff all and everything salad
The sacred being-Impulse of genuine Love : Beelzebub's tales , chapter 26
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The sacred being-Impulse of genuine Love : Beelzebub's tales , chapter 26
"the importance of work on oneself" , by Annie Lou Staveley, with a commentary by Lara
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"the importance of work on oneself" , by Annie Lou Staveley, with a commentary by Lara
Self-remembering and prayer; Maurice Nicoll commentaries volume 1
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Self-remembering and prayer; Maurice Nicoll commentaries volume 1
Bobbin-kandelnosts and the three brains , Dying by thirds
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Bobbin-kandelnosts and the three brains , Dying by thirds
Oppressors of our own selves , Henri Tracol
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Oppressors of our own selves , Henri Tracol
The first and second conscious shock : transformation of being
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The first and second conscious shock : transformation of being
Connecting to higher influences ; Ouspensky , the fourth way , chapter eight
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Connecting to higher influences ; Ouspensky , the fourth way , chapter eight
Gurdjieff's transformation aboard the train : the art of plastics
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Gurdjieff's transformation aboard the train : the art of plastics
Permanent "I" and conscious will : an after dinner talk
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Permanent "I" and conscious will : an after dinner talk
The higher emotional Center : inner octaves , Michel Conge
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The higher emotional Center : inner octaves , Michel Conge
Who really wrote Beelzebub's tales ? it wasn't Mr. Gurdjieff !
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Who really wrote Beelzebub's tales ? it wasn't Mr. Gurdjieff !
Becoming the Work and the elimination of negative emotion
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Becoming the Work and the elimination of negative emotion
Beautiful. 😊❤ You have such a lovely poetic reading voice.
Can you guys make a video on stages, tips, steps, ways to decipher and be able to truly understand and produce results with the 4th way work?
i check out all your videos as a practitioner of the 4th way. You both emanate a seriousness and genuineness about the work that resonates deeply
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Would you say the teachings of Gurdjieff are connected (maybe deeply) to the question: what happens when the ‘I’ completely comes to an end and there is no more becoming or doing anything, the ‘I’ is nothing and therefore everything? Listening to Krishnamurti has a similar effect on me as listening to the teachings of Gurdjieff. And it feels like they are saying/teaching the same thing but in their own incredible way.
The essence of knowledge is self knowledge. The essence of self knowledge is self remembering. And the essence of self remembering is to selflessly serve Influence C in the Holy Spirit. 💠✨🙏✨💠
There is no statement that the world is more afraid to hear than this : I do not know the thing I am, and therefore do not know what I am doing, where I am, or how to look upon the world or on myself. 💠✨🙏✨💠
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Phew, directed energy weapon hitting me between the eyes. Very energetic and you guys have a beautiful flow.
We love your comment. The bit about being hit between the eyes by a directed energy weapon. Made us laugh. Cheers 🥂 Ps , hope you've recovered 😂
Very nice, thank you.
Yes it seems like a number of people are profiting from your videos including myself. I personally have been looking into the fourth way work for perhaps 2 years or so but it is only in the last number of weeks that I have found a strong pull towards it and making a sincere effort developing myself. I agree that it is one thing to intellectually understand concepts but if it hits you emotionally then that is on another level, like Maurice Nicol said you can either understand with your feet(normal everyday understanding) or with your head (phycological understanding)
This video reminds me of early youtube :)
Gastronomy Deuteronomy 😆
Listening to this, My head spins and it feels like a kind of terror is lurking behind the spinning. I can not do anything about it…so I just watch as best I can. 🙏and it feels like all the sounds that come out of my mouth called ‘words’ are just meaningless sounds.
Listening to this, My head spins and it feels like a kind of terror is lurking behind the spinning. I can not do anything about it…so I just watch as best I can. 🙏
You both are mirroring each other "uuuhhhh!' you may want a rehearsal or edit your channeling vidoes, most are using superior graphics, to quick frames to confuse the audience. Listen you guys are just kiling it regardless, the holy Spirit is stirring inside my bowels at this moment. Just wanted to give you the head up and junk.
A video with everything: the poignancy of human interaction, some heavy-duty info, and a touch of humor at the end. A full meal, as it were. This is a wonderful channel.
Thank you , kind sir , Glad you enjoyed the meal. If you'd like to leave a tip (it helps us) There is a link in the description box
Your words are a kindness and I will try to absorb them into my world with all my heart. I recently used an exercise by Jeanne de Salzman based on grounding and self remembering, a kind of Self Remembering exercise. In that exercise she said to hold on to "I am" while watching the manifestations of the different brains arising and disappearing. While doing that exercise I kept getting deeper and deeper into a meditative state, and as I did so I kept feeling an incredible rapture and higher energies began to manifest, (right up above my stupid head) so I understand your comment about rapture. I think. Those exercises got me through some difficult days. I thank you for the videos and for your kind words again and again.
Thank you for your great comment. Yes. The manifestation of higher energies is central to what we do. And the exercises given to Madam de Salzmann by Gurdjieff are of a truly divine nature. You say they have gotten you through some difficult times. The work itself has gotten me thru some hellishly difficult times and to it I owe everything. "What allows the passage to a higher level at every degree is the intensity and quality of the attention. It is attention that gives the capacity to see. Attention is the conscious force , the force of consciousness. It is a divine force. Section 98 , the most important thing. Chapter 9 , In a state of unity. The reality of being. And without direct connection to the divine the work is of no use to anyone. Best wishes , Noel
To learn how to take life rightly ❤
I love this ❤ who am I to judge what is good or evil? There is only what is. Who am I to judge Especially when I do not even know who I am….why do I think I can judge anything at all?
You have never for one moment in your life known your real "I." This has been the cause of all your problems and difficulties. This applies to all of us. We have been sabotaged by an imposter who goes under the name of the many "I." In false personality with which we have been permanently identified. This imposter signs cheques which we spend our whole lives paying off. The only thing that matters is work on oneself.
@@hermesnoelthefourthway that means I must know what ‘work on oneself’ is, mustn’t I. I can not say ‘for sure’ I know what ‘work on oneself is’, this is a problem.
Applying all the principles of the work to one's daily life. Taking life as work. As a means of evolving to another level of being. It takes a long time to see concrete results. But they come ✨️👍
@@hermesnoelthefourthway I do not know all the principals of the work….i can apply the ones I do know while I learn the others :)
Yew can knot bee serious!
As long as it's not in your bonnet ! 👒🐝 But then again , the friction created would quell the evil inner god of self calming and possibly lead to an imperishable higher being body. And then you could be an eternal piano player and not just a flash in the trogoautoegocratic pan
Ha ha!! Quite the skill, self calming...or is it skillet- Pan the God of all receptacles 😊
Who am I? Only question that bothers me now. Your videos bring on high energies and I mean high, OK? Such good work you have done, both of you. I know enough to value your work forever into the sunset and beyond. I myself am having a problem understanding what I am. It slips away and there is a mystery there. A secret.
Energies that are channelled through us. Through you. Eternally. "I do not fear death. It is simply going from one room into another." Socrates. And , "That you are here-that life exists , And identity , that the powerful play goes on , and you may contribite a verse." Forever. Walt Whitman , O me ! O life! th-cam.com/video/-MroJBel3b0/w-d-xo.htmlsi=DDyBQVW8-hPLAsrI Im abendrot , four last songs , Richard Strauss
Thank you. Guys 😊. Do you know where G stands on telling lies. I know that he would act as an idiot to change the perception of others people to gain an advantage. But I don’t think the guy he was doing this to was on the path. I also think he may have lied to someone on the path but only because it helped them. Have you any thoughts on this matter. 🖖🙏
"Try to accept for one moment the notion that you are not what you believe yourself to be , that you have too high an opinion of yourself., and that in fact you lie to yourself. You lie to yourself all the time , all day long , during the whole of your life. Lies govern your life to the extent that you cannot control your lying. You are a prey to lying. You lie in everything. Your relationship with others , lies. The education you proffer , the conventions , all lies. Your teaching , lies. Your theories , your art , lies. Your social life , your family life lies. And what you believe yourself to be , equally lies. " A talk given by Mr. Gurdjieff to a Paris group 1941. In Mr. Gurdjieff's presence it was impossible to tell a lie. And if , he told any himself , it was to deter those who were unsuitable for the work from entering it.
Thank you for the lies ❤🖖🙏
Thank you for acknowledging my "teacher" Mrs. March. I liked what you said about the Work not being able to be taught. It must be absorbed, verified for oneself, and established in oneself BY oneself. That said, the "teacher" is invaluable as a model and indeed we benefit immensely from being in a more developed being's presence.
th-cam.com/video/SSsMtAnDJWM/w-d-xo.htmlsi=nL0r4NUSYxIVFf9d Monsieur Gurdjieff's new secret-a-ry and her mystical encounter with him. You have been extremely fortunate to have had Ms.March as a teacher. Her contribition , publicly and privately., ro the work has been of the highest rank.
@@hermesnoelthefourthway Thanks for the link. Amazing Mrs March is not better known, considering the vast number of people she helped.
@vortexpilot5096 It's the way it's meant to be. Gurdjieff revealed so much to her on the condition that she keep it secret. She then referred to herself as his secret-a-ry.
What did Gurdjieff actually say? "Emotional love is weakness", "Emotional love evokes the opposite"... What IS "The Emotional center"? Well? (obviously) its not what "everyone believe" (that is to say?) The *REAL* Emotional center is (according to Gurdjieff) *THE SOLAR PLEXUS*... second thing? (That) What is "Manifested from Above", which is always Present (within the Subconscious) as related to "Conscience", is what we wish to be Present to, Third?`As long as "you" operate/function (as a "false personality/False identity") as the "Second world" as "The Animal" (organic body and inner world) you are nothing else than ("At best") within the "Third State" (or "moments/Flashes") of "The Third state".... meaning? As long as you "operate/function" (from the False personality/The Animal/Organic body) you are "An Animal" (false identity) IF/When you reach that state you "operate and function" *FROM* The Second being body (Kesdjan), "Then" (you are "something else")... That is to say? WHEN you operate/function from the "consciousness state" of the Second Being body (Kesdjan), As long as you "Operate/Function" (from "That" Consciousness-level of "The Animal"/False personality/Organic body) you *ARE* (That) "Animal" you "operate/function" (and "live") from the "consciousness-level" (of "The Animal/The False personality/Organic body) Then You *ARE* (That) "False identity/False personality" (Then) "you Are" (within "The Third state") of "Self-Awareness", but? To "operate/Function" (from the consciousness-level) of "The Kesdjan" (second being-body) Then? *YOU ARE* (NOT) "That" (False personality/False identity)... meaning? Then? You *ARE* (The Second Being-body) The Kesdjan, Second Being-body (The Astral Light Being body) .... Then, You (no longer) "operate/Function/live" (from the "consciousness-level") of the False personality/False identity (The Animal).... The Second Being-body is *THE THIRD STATE* (which is *NOT* "Dependent upon" "The inner world" nor "The outer world") because? "The Third World" (is "a independent world") a "world in itself" (The world of *Consciousness* (The World of The Soul and The Spirit), That Exist/operate/function *IN BETWEEN* "The inner- outer world" (meaning?) *NOT* "dependent upon" (The inner- outer world) for its very Existence/function/operation.... That is *THE REAL BEING* (meaning? *NOT* "The False personality/False identity/"The Animal" (second world) "organic body and *INNER WORLD*....(Why is "The Third world", a "independent world" (*Not* "dependent upon" "the inner- outer world"?) Go Figure?..."The Third World" (The *REAL BEING*) is (*Not*) "The body", "The mind", "The emotions" It is *NOT* "The inner world" (Which is *A part* of *The Second world* (The False personality/The False identity/The Animal) "The Organic body and inner world"...
We would all like some raspberry jam. Preferably served on buttered crumpets. You know , as the butter swirls in liquid form through the tiny holes in the crumpet. "I was initiated into the brotherhood of makers of butter from air "🧈 Gurdjieff speaking of one of his first epic initiations in chapter one of the tales , the arousing of thought. "It's always jam yesterday or tomorrow , but never jam today." Economizing our energy. A.R.Orage The ultimate jammy dodger.
@@hermesnoelthefourthway What is the "difference" (in-between) "An Angel" and "A Devil"?... Well? "The Devil" have a "Divine mind" (That He only use for "Service of Self", because "The Devil" (Does Not*) have a "Divine Body" (meaning "A Second Being body (Kesdjan) a *LIGHT BEING BODY.... Only because you "do not believe" (an "Enlightened" *TRANSCENDENTAL Consciousness-state) "Does not exist" or? "Is not possible" (does not mean) "it does not exist" or its not a "Absolute reality" (only because "you", as a "False personality/False identity as "The Animal" (Organic body) have never "experienced" a "Transcendental" (Enligthened) consciousness state (it only means?) You are ignorant, asleep and unconscious (*IDENTIFIED*) with "That" (False personality/false identity) of "The Animal" (organic body and inner world) "Second world".... "That" (which is NOT "you" Nor is "it" "your true identity" or "your true self")... because? "The Devil" imagine/believe "Paradise" or "Heaven" is "On Earth" (an not "Within the Kingdom of God") meaning? Within the Enligthened / Transcendent (Consciousness state) of (The REAL BEING) of "Second Being body" (Kesdjan) THE LIGHT BEING BODY*... (That can only be "Realized" through *Conscious work and intentional sufferings that is? Only through "Self-knowledge/Self-study" KNOW THYSELF (Awakening/True Self-Realization) can only "happen" though a very long (very Conscious and intentional) STRUGGLE (AGAINST) "That" (False personality/False identity/"The Animal" (Second world) "organic body and inner world" (Sleep/Unconsciousness)... Because? The REAL BEING/THE TRUE SELF (Which is) "The Third world", "The World of Consciousness" "The World of the Soul and the Spirit" (That exist) IN BETWEEN "The inner- outer world"...
@@xiam3000 "The devil wears red plaid trousers and smokes a havanna cigar. I saw him sitting next to me one evening. He told me lots of secrets I am forbidden to utter." Ivan. Book two of the brothers Karamazov on
@@hermesnoelthefourthway hahah! ;I
th-cam.com/video/t0hK1wyrrAU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=-KqSWv1mPa7Si2yI Was it in or out ? Siriusly ⭐️🐕
It was the old in and out. Shake it all about😊
I love you guys: molto simpatico! The best double act in town and worthy vehicles for the transmission of the Work. Noel's 'Syrius' joke, as evidenced by Lara's deadpan and long-suffering facial expression ('Being-Parktdolg-Duty' - the endurance of each other's unpleasant manifestations), landed as flat as my own dad jokes on my family. Tanti grazia, ❤
Never a dull moment. Siriusly. It really is a great joy to transmit this work as it was meant to be transmitted and a sirius test of patience this endurance of each other's unpleasant manifestations. And very bad jokes. Best wishes to you, Noel & Lara
🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😊thank U pals: Lara and Noel for the very vivid duet!❤
We all like a vivid duet from time to time. It greases the wheels
@@hermesnoelthefourthway wheels of Being.
Just've had these ideas!)😮
Influence C at it again ! The work continues 😊
Poor Yorick! Close but no salt, no sugar. The green ball slept upon - whacked at half past mass across the clay dust of Adam- that emerald pearl brutalized by swine with stickets. Volley over the boundary set seeking in vain to end purgatory’s complacency - the just home of the automatic. May we all end to excel in tennis!
As long as one's balls are regularly replaced. Otherwise they end up scuffed and are neither use nor ornament. "When we have matched our rackets to these balls of yours , we will , in France , by God's grace , play a set." Henry V , act 1 , scene two. Shakespeare . Game on 🎾🎭
From the moment you mentioned John McEnroe, I placed a banana around my head. Did I get something wrong?
th-cam.com/video/BSBTg1VApkI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=j4273DAbauCF7Zhv Do you mean bandana? Surely. Cause if you really do mean banana , YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS ! ✨🍌
@@hermesnoelthefourthway Gadzooks, you're right! I'd better split.
FYI: [47.30] Contemporary Australian slang for "uncoordinated"; UNCO!
Something amazing happened while listening and after. One of the things that affected me positively and strongly was when you were talking about ‘we are given so much, and much more than we ever do, in fact we don’t do anything’. Then not long after this I read “when you realise everything you want you already have, then something begins to shine. But as long as you believe you need something or have to gain something, then there is always a battle going on inside yourself.’ I noticed this is exactly what has been going on for so long….a battle.
Thank you , Marilyn , for this wonderful comment To draw that distinction between what we do and what we are given is vitally important and it puts us on another level. There we no longer seek with avidity, we no longer need something nor do we feel that there is something more to gain by 'doing' which we cannot do anyhow. We can then sit content and just be. "And whether I come to my own today or in ten thousand or ten million years , I can cheerfully take it now , Or with equal cheerfulness I can wait." Walt Whitman , song of myself Best wishes to you , Lara
Making the distinction between what one does and what one receives opens us to an infinitely higher vibration , a transformed atmosphere in which one is in touch with the essense of the teaching. One which changes everything for the better. And , yes , this brings about amazing results. I'll give you a game of tennis one day , if you fancy it. All the best , Noel
@@hermesnoelthefourthway I love that comment…cheerful by taking it now or cheerful waiting ☺️it gives space outside of time.
@@hermesnoelthefourthway I feel I am only just now making such a distinction….in the study of psychology I have set myself up with a very heavy blindfold to what one receives….but as Lara’s lovely comment points out I can wait cheerfully, (there is no need to go into the mind/time). PS I am not good at tennis at all. Horse riding….that’s a different matter :)
@@Opensky3535 Yes. Psychology is a very heavy blindfold indeed. It works on and around false personality. The work penetrates into the essence of the person. And in that way , we actually come to something. Something very real and imperishable. I'll take you up on the horse riding one day. Mr. Ouspensky loved it and was to be seen riding daily around the grounds of lyne place (his final home)
Heavenly, Heavenly all Heavenly
Have a heavenly day , Bruce
@@hermesnoelthefourthway Who am I? When I wrack my brain, or bother to - This is the crazy question. It comes up much stronger now that I have circled the Sun 78 times. It is beginning to puzzle me and I can't find an answer. It is like something is there and slips away in a storm. Anyone else?
What is there that slips away in the storm is your eternal essence. Far beyond thoughts , words , and ideas. Connection to it brings rapture. However , everything in the material realm is fighting to stop us seeing this. As Maurice Nicoll so aptly put it , "this work is non sense. All non sense."
Thank you 🙏 I am grateful there is this to listen to. ❤so much to listen to in there.
So much to listen to of inestimable worth ♥️💫
God does not understand words, for they were made by separated minds to keep them in the illusion of separation. Words can be useful, particularly for the beginner, in helping concentration and, facilitating the exclusion, or at least control of extraneous thoughts. Let us not forget, however, that words are but symbols of symbols. They are thus twice removed from reality. 💠✨🙏✨💠
The quote from the sermon on the mount , blessed are the pure in heart means those who do not believe in words. A state of being , of pure consciousness has been reached whereby words have become meaningless , in which silence speaks volumes. Please see page number 271 , bottom paragraph , beginning "in October I was with G in Moscow , concluding halfway day the next page 272 of P.D. Ouspensky's In search of the miraculous.
... in which Silence speaks volumes.. "I rest in God". This thought has power to wake the sleeping truth in you, whose vision sees beyond appearances to the same truth in everyone and everything there is. Here is the end of suffering for all the world, and everyone who ever came and yet will come to linger for a while. Here is the thought in which the Son of God is born again, to recognize himself. 💠✨🙏✨💠
Another great video. Was particularly struck by the phrase 'detach from all our identifications' , around 5 minutes in. Had a revelation recently when realised how much the personality loves itself and clings to its identifications. The personality normally repeats itself over and over again how it 'can't ' do office work from home. Finally had to due to external factors this week, and all went quite well. The personality had invested so much time and in creating an unreal belief that it couldn't do something and identified with it. The experience has opened a new line of work, in trying to do what 'it' doesn't want to do.
"To not identify means to take nothing seriously except the work" -P.D.Ouspensky There is profound beauty in that when it is applied. When we take only the work seriously and let it enter into everything as the neutralizing factor, the holy reconciling force. Everything is transformed by this and the false personality loses its power over us. "There are many self-harming 'Is' which lie on the margin of consciousness which wish to harm us" -Maurice Nicoll When we begin to do the work we begin to eradicate them .
John 8:32 - "You shall know the Word of Truth (Logos) and the Light of Truth (Wisdom and Understanding) shall set you free from bondage to the darkness of ignorance and folly. The Word of Truth is ever faithful (loyal, true, isomorphic) to Reality/Life (That which is/That I am). Rest 'until' well. Rest is the first word in restoration. All change for the better begins and ends at the still point of silence - simply being aware of being aware (Self-remembering). The Rhythm of Life is a movement and a 'rest'. The optimum (Heaven) is always found somewhere between the extremes of too much and too little (hell - two thieves). Pleasantness is the Rose found at the Heart of the Optimum. Just so. Matthew 7:14 - "Strait is the gate and narrow the way that leads to (inspired) Life, and few there be that find it." John 10:10 - "Behold, I am (Life) is come that you might have (inspired) Life, and have it more abundantly."
I wonder if conscious labor and suffering brings one to remember himself?
Conscious labors and intentional suffering constitute what is known as 'Being-partkdolg duty' . The aim is to remember oneself , who and what one really is in essence , and transcend the limitations of time and space , life and death. By performing conscious labors we introduce an element of suffering which acts as the fire necessary to fuse our otherwise fragmented being into one indivisible , harmonized whole. A unity. In Beelzebub's Tales , Gurdjieff tells us how this can be achieved : "One of the best means of rendering ineffective the predisposition in your nature to crystallize the consequences of the properties of the organ kundabuffer is "intentional suffering " ; and the greatest "intentional suffering" can be obtained in our presences by compelling ourselves to endure the displeasing manifestations of others toward ourselves . "
@@hermesnoelthefourthway So when we endure or self observe our automatic negative reactions to other’s automatic negative actions, we hold this energy of suffering by not reacting until it basically fuels us or lifts us to a state of self remembering?
First conscious flock!
The magician tells them they are good sheep and feeds them very well. Then one day he slaughters them and makes a nice lamb stew. But this conscious flock discover what is really happening and make a getaway. Ewe know what I mean 🐑🐑🐑 "The trick the magician pulls off in the hypnotizing of his flock is so blatently obvious , it beggers belief that no one sees it." Maurice Nicoll , commentaries vol. "Man is becoming a willing slave. He grows fond of his slavery." Gurdjieff
So objectivity is nothing but living in the center of previous thoughts verified in form and shooting off of that potential within your own limitation, and sharing the limitation together. Yet the minds can never join - how could they? They apparently have separate sources of reality. If we have a common source, where is our conflict? 💠✨🙏✨💠
"which of you by taking thought can add a cubit to his height ? " Matt (a fortunate tax collector ) 6.27 "I don't think , I see." Gurdjieff
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The one thing that prevents one's inner growth/evolution more than anything else is "wiseacreing." believing that one knows. Whereby , in reality , one knows nothing. "It" cannot know and all its manifestations are a consequence of the organ kundabuffer. True liberation and true being is release from these maleficent effects. Realization of this increases one's consciousness , one's being , and one's joy far beyond measure.
By definition there can be only one all-inclusive or Absolute Being (Life), in which all relative beings live, move and have their Being. Love is the conscious recognition of our shared Being.
Acts 17.28. "Real love is the basis of all , the foundations , the Source. The religions have perverted and deformed love. It was by love that Jesus performed miracles. Real love joined with magnetism. All accumulated vibrations create a current. This current brings the force of love. Real love is a cosmic force which goes through us. If we crystalize it , it becomes a power - the greatest power in the world." Gurdjieff , Wartime meeting 19.
@@hermesnoelthefourthway Well said. When the Mind inspires, the Heart aspires and the Will conspires (combines). No Love = No Inspiration = No Power
Be kind and go deeper. 💠✨🙏✨💠
Two Human lineages: 1. Those who live an inspired creative responsive Life. 2. Those who live a mechanical routine reactive Life. Steiner et al played for the house and gave no secrets away. They were shills for the dark lords. Gurdjieff's neologisms are designed to force the particular object/content oriented mind to think contextually to determine their meaning. A Very clever example of Objective Art. Matthew 6:22 - "As the eye is a lamp unto the body, so is perspective to the Mind.Therefore, if your eye (perspective on Life) be single (all-inclusive), then your whole Being will be full of Life, and the Light of Wisdom and Understanding." The Light of Wisdom and Understanding dispels the darkness of ignorance and folly. Matthew 13:12 - "To one that has shall more be given..." Matthew 7:14 - "Strait is the gate and narrow the way that leads to (inspired) Life, and few there be that find it." Pleasantness (Heaven) is the Rose found at the Heart of the Optimum. Just so. The Rhythm of Life is a movement and a rest. The optimum (Heaven) is always found somewhere between the extremes of too much and too little ((hell - two thieves). One who knows when to 'stop' is forever safe: Inner/Outer More/Less Better/Worse Yes/No Rich man = thief = too much is never enough extreme = no reduction to Optimum, only more - adding Spirit to one's other possessions, thereby monetizing it, like the money changers in the temple. Poor man = thief = too little extreme = can be added to until good enough to enter the optimum (Heaven). We transform our temporal caterpillar psyche into an Eternal Butterfly Soul, by integrating our Mind, Heart and Will. When the Mind inspires, the Heart aspires and the Will conspires (combines). Integration = Integrity = Soul The broad way leads to the 'legal fiction' world of the dead, who lord it over the world of living men and women with religion, politics and commerce and their endless rules and regulations, statutes and ordinances, policies, mandates and penalties, through 'word sorcery'. Nerve System or Nervous System? A nerve system has two settings: calm and nervous. A Nervous System has only one setting: nervous - which explains a global population with nerves perpetually on edge, desperately reaching for the too expensive, only marginally helpful prescribed relief. WTF?
You're right about Steiner et al. Charlatans of the first order with schackermacher booths everywhere. I first read him in my early 20s. And something didn't sit right. Something bogus was the predominant emanation , Pseudo. I never bothered with him anymore. When I discovered Gurdjieff (or more appropriately , when Gurdjieff discovered me ) I knew I had come home. Arrived at my true destination. Gurdjieff is condemning of all these occultists and spiritualists and advises one to avoid them. As A.R. Orage said to C.S. Nott , "Everyday of my life , I thank God for Gurdjieff. I know where he was coming from.
@@hermesnoelthefourthway Agreed. The more of them I read, the more disappointed I became. I was found by the Gurdjieff Work soon after and experienced a profound sense of relief. I have never looked back. 5 + decades and the Work still reformulates itself in me with daily epiphanies which bubble up from the subconscious mind accompanied by a voice that keeps me emotionally steady until the full download is complete. I just had one concerning resonant frequency alignment an hour ago that connected some resistant dots for me. I appreciate your 'Down to Earth' approach to the Work. My first teacher was a better teacher than practitioner. My second teacher though was exemplary. They provided me with a template for discernment. Listening to your videos remindes me of my second teacher who also had a more down to earth approach, which my nature feels more at home with. 🤠
We experience whatever we are convinced of. The conscious mind plants a seed of conviction in the womb of the subconscious mind, which then employs unconscious primal Life Force energy to bring our convictions to fruition as experience. The abstract (Heaven) called Love by the Psyche (Firmament) can be expressed concretely (Earth) as a smile, hug etc, thereby uniting Heaven and Earth. Narratives provide the content of perception. Perspectives provide the context of meaning. Choices provide timelines of experience. When experience contains awareness there is chaos, bondage, reaction. When awareness contains experience there is order, Sovereignty, response.
What we wake up from is identification with the temporal. What we wake up to is our Eternal Nature. What you have can be yours but can never be you. You have a body, a mind, possessions, habits etc. They are not you. Mentally set aside everything that you are not, and what you are will be there. Ultimately, the most significant choice that we can make at any moment of the day, is between unconscious compulsive reaction and conscious creative response. The map is not the territory; the menu is not the meal. "Victory always goes to the most persevering." - Napoleon Bonaparte - Perseverance = Patient Persistence Everything outer and visible is a projected analogue of the invisible Psyche - a mirror.
Self-forgetting: identification with the temporal is the one source of all psychological suffering. Dis-identification is the remedy. Self-observation exposes negative reactive patterns. Self-remembering (being aware of being aware), collapses them. All change for the better begins at the still point of silence - simply being aware of being aware (Gnosis). Reality/Life = That which is/That I am.
Reality/Life = That which is/That I am