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A-B-S 3 is slower and has less spin reversal than A-B-S 2 EVO

would the abs 3 pair well with a maze alc? If so what thickness

Hello! I never had a chance to try the thinner version. I prefer the two rubbers (fh and bh) to have similar millimeters so that the weight is not unbalanced. 😉

@@AndreaAschi Capisco la tua scelta di avere la racchetta ben bilanciata con le due gomme dello stesso peso e spessore ma forse la 1.7 rispetto alla 2.3 dovrebbe invertire maggiormente. Magari la 1.7 rispetto alla 2.3 potrebbe diventare più velocina e quindi sarebbe un piccolo svantaggio. Aiutami a capire. Grazie Andrea.

Yesterday I had the opportunity to compare the 2 sponges 1,7 and 2,3, and I can say without doubt that the 2,3 pink version ia much better. The blocks are very short Control are supperior 1,7 is to fast for an OFF+ carbon blade To be noted that Abs 3 Pro topsheet generates with pink and yellow sponges more spinreversal compared to normal ABS. Also better than vortex topsheet wich is very thick like ABS Thank you Andrea for your response!

Der-materialspezialist website

Ciao Massimo. Non conosco il telaio che usi. Ti posso riportare quella che é stata la mia personale esperienza con la piuma gialla. Non mi è per nulla piaciuta. Troppo lenta e morbida. A livello di inversione anche peggiore della piuma rosa. Provata sempre sul mio Carbonado + ABS.

​@@AndreaAschigrazie Andrea. Ok prenderò una gommapiuma come la tua. Riguardo al topsheet l'ABS rispetto alla mia Vortex sai dirmi se inverte di più oppure sono pari in questa caratteristica fisica? Grazie

2.3mm

Grazie Massimo, troppo buono! 🙂

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Any water based glue is fine 😉

merci

Yes, exactly!

Ok merci mais avec quelle colle tu colle le topsheet et la mousse?mon ami

Ma va!! Basta mettere gomma a caso e fa tutto lei 😜😜

@AndreaAschi certamente xD

I suggest you move to another area! 😁

@@AndreaAschi Exactly what I am in the process of doing but I don't think I will escape it....

Hello Vincent! In a few months it will be exactly 10 years since I started my journey with anti. 🥳 I understand your initial concern. My personal experience, however, has been the opposite. In 2015 I started trying different anti during the summer break and after only 2 months of training I greatly improved what was my previous personal best ranking

@@AndreaAschi Hello Andréa, Thanks to you for your honest feedback. I've never tried the anti spin. But this a rubber for which people are not used to dealing with. So, in my opinion, this a risk which worth being taken. Thanks to you, Best regards, Vincent

I don't do anything special. I simply try to remove the topsheet from the sponge by starting at one corner and making a light controlled upward pressure. With most of Dr. Neubauer's anti's this is sufficient while with der-materialspezialist's I have never succeeded like this. There must be other techniques that I am not familiar with, however.

2.3mm

Hello! I must preface this by saying that I have only ever used the A-B-S (without the original sponge) in official matches. I have tried other anti (A-B-S 3 and A-B-S 2 PRO) only in training and for a short time. I can therefore make a comparison between these two. A-B-S 2 PRO is the one that absolutely has the best spin reversal (Similar to SuperGlanti). It is fast and difficult to control on an OFF+ blade. It should be used on something slower. It is the ideal rubber if you are able to attack the ball the way Mladenovic does. If you play the anti passively like I do then the A-B-S 3 is better suited...better control, you can use it safely on very fast blades. It is, however, overall a more predictable rubber.

@AndreaAschi thanks a lot. :)

Abs 3 en berbat olanı

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What you say is all right. The problem is when you face better players with great serve and forehand. 😉

@@AndreaAschiforgot to mention twiddling. I have used anti spin to get a feel of it and I have played against anti and it really depends on their level of using it. Against an amateur anti player sure it’s easy to crack them open because they haven’t developed the toxic anti skill sets yet, but against a high level anti player good luck. It’s hard as to win especially if they can just twiddle without even thinking. People can talk all they want but you have to respect that rubber or you be a victim to it 😜

I played againtst an experienced veteran recently, he asked what rubber I used and I gave him my racket so he could have a look. "Oh, you play with frictionless anti, that I'm familiar with and know how to play against" he said. He didn't understand anything from my anti and I beat him easy. This is not to say that I'm a very good player but to show that it all depends on how you use the rubber. I've played a lot of anti and long pimples players, they all feels different to play against, even two persons with the same rubber. When I played long pimples OX I was often accused of cheating. People saying they have one person in the club with the exact same pimples and they have not the same effect at all and no problems beating them. So it all depends on style, technique and of course also the choice of blade.

You win easily with antispin player? Give me some video please.. I really want to see...😊

The sponge is 2.3mm thick. I bought the topsheet already separated.

@ where can you buy it without sponge?

Your situation is understandable. 😁 In the game you often do not make the right move because you are under pressure. The solution to this is to have the opportunity to train against certain players so that it becomes automatic to make a better choice.

@AndreaAschi yeah I have been practicing more recently and am getting better at if it's half long/short from the pips and heavy backspin keeping my push half long/short, or going for a good long push deep to the pips side which is working better for me I think, then if they start turning mixing it up with wide FH and being ready to try block the attack. Anyway nice video I just subscribed, be good for me to watch your games as I need more experience playing and watching this play style

Ciao Giova!! È sempre un piacere leggerti nei commenti 😉 Auguro un buon anno anche a te!!

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Agreed, You don't have to go very high before success with anti becomes harder than with inverted. Even at my level (which isn't really that high) if you're succeeding with anti or long pips then it's because you have very good skills using them.

I know, we know that! The title is deliberately provocative for my "haters" 😁

@@AndreaAschi I see! It is fine then! True nevertheless!

Ciao Riccardo! La differenza principale è che l'anti ha la superficie priva di attrito (si chiamano appunto frictionless, ma esistono anche altri tipi di anti che invece hanno un pelo di grip) mentre il puntino lungo, da regolamento, deve avere un minimo di grip. Questo influisce sul tipo di gioco che puoi farci: - con l'anti non puoi imprimere effetto. Il suo disturbo si basa esclusivamente sullo spin che da l'avversario. Per questo posso uscire poi dei block "velenosi" come quelli che hai visto nel video. - il puntino è più versatile perché puoi gestirlo tu avendo un minimo di aggancio. Puoi eseguire più colpi e modulare l'effetto che produce ad esempio dando di più o di meno con il polso. È una gomma più attiva. Per quanto riguarda una anti da provare li sta a te, in base alle tue preferenze, se provarne una veloce o una lenta. All'inizio ci sta partire con qualcosa di facile tipo ABS 3, ABS 3 PRO, VORTEX 2

Stiga Carbonado 190 Donic Bluestorm PRO Dr. Neubauer A-B-S

Robyy ❤️❤️ La scuola Refrancorese ha sfornato solo rovesci di un certo livello!!! 😜

Dr. Neubauer A-B-S with a Spinlab sponge

Sempre con la solita! Rispetto a qualche mese fa ho solo cambiato la gomma sul diritto.

@AndreaAschi bene cos'hai montato? Io voglio provare la Donic Coppa X1 Turbo!

Ho messo la Bluestorm PRO. Più dura e veloce di quella che avevo prima...ma non son sicuro di averci guadagnato in termini di prestazione 😅 La Coppa X1 è una gomma molto datata. Si usavano già nel 2010. Ti consiglio di prenderne una simile in caratterische ma di ultima generazione. Sicuro son più valide 😉

The two sponges differ in hardness. The original sponge is harder and more direct. It works better if you are a player who uses it aggressively. Since I use anti only passively I find myself better off with the Spinlab one. It is very soft and has better control.

@AndreaAschi if you prefer control and soft sponge,what about abs 2soft(or other abs soft version)?I heard that soft means sponge is softter and better control, is it true abs soft can replace your spinlab sponge?because I have no way to buy this sponge.thanks.

I used a Glue Sheet. so much easier and way less hassle, just Google it

A-B-S (1) 2.3mm Spinlab pink sponge

@@AndreaAschi Perhaps you could advise which of the A-B-S, A-B-S 3, or A-B-S 3 Pro would be the slowest and in which thickness? Am I correct in understanding that the thicker the sponge in an anti-spin rubber, the slower it becomes? Thank you.

​@@garik70707 ABS3 Pro is the slowest of them all. And yes, the thicker the sponge, the slower it is. But also: the thicker the sponge, the less spin reversal it has. I don't know what blade Andrea uses at the moment but it's a quiet fast one. Love to you @Andrea, Jörg😘

Ciao, da ignorante di antitop ti domano: qual è lo spessore della gomma? Se guardo sui siti mi dice 1.8 o 1.5. Se non ho capito male, per assemblare questo tipo di racchetta prendi la gommapiuma a parte (2.3 mm rosa). Quindi sia la gomma che la gommapiuma vanno scelte per spessori? Grazie

@@AndreaAschi Do you have to modify the rubber or is there one for sale?

Ciao Pablo! Perdonami, ho ignorato per diversi mesi youtube non controllando i messaggi e non caricando video perché ho avuto altre grane a cui dare precedenza. Mi fa molto piacere che ti preoccupi della mia situazione, fortunatamente nulla di serio tranquillo 🙂 Pongisticamente parlando però ne ho risentito parecchio perché sto giocando poco e male...anche per questo mi sembra di non avere mai contenuti validi da portare sul canale

@@AndreaAschi Andrea stai sereno, la salute prima di tutto. Capisco che qualcosa è successo…qualcosa nel tempo cambia ma sei giovane per cui sono certo che ne esci più forte di prima riferito ovviamente alle performance pongistiche. Sappi che tutti i tuoi video sono stati di grande motivazione anche se non sono giocatore di anti. Grande stima e ammirazione per te. Ti abbraccio

È quasi un anno che ho messo l' anti spin e mi sto trovando veramente bene

Grande. Mi fa piacere! 🤟🏻🤟🏻

DMS Scooper def so yeah a slow blade.

Exactly ;)

@@AndreaAschi by the way, which one did you prefer between Super Glanti black and super glanti attack ? Which one has more spin reversal and speed ?

I like the attack version better overall since it is more manageable and still has an incredible ability to reverse spin. The black version remains unbeatable on spin reversal and speed

Black version is unbeatable and and uncontrollable 😅 (except very slow def blade like Balsa 2.5 for example or the wall or scooper like it seems). BUT: On the right blade normal Super Glanti is outstanding in all aspects compared to other Glantis. Depends on the style of play of course.