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Technically speaking the pigback riders aren't doing impact damage on the stag knights since I believe that is only possible if the effective mass of the unit is higher than the unit getting charged and it only applies if large unit is charging into small unit. But overall the RoR performance just boils down to that insane charge bonus. If your effective MA is 55 over enemy MD you will hit the melee accuracy cap at 90% hit chance. If the enemy infantry unit does not have expert charge defense, the pigback riders will hit their accuracy cap on their charge unless the enemy has more than 68MD, which to my knowledge only applies to whip chosen. I think their most cost effective counter is peasant spearmen due to being the cheapest unit with expert charge defense, but the concept of 100 model infantry unit with 56CB is just clinically insane.

Thanks for this. I started a Kislev campaign 2 days ago and had 3 War Bear Rider battalions even out against 1 Chaos Knights of Tzeentch. Then had a bridge map (with only 1 single crossing) and my missile units just wouldn't shoot when starting on one side of the map. Later that day i had my army on the other side of that same map and everything worked. Playing a .0 patch is like beta testing these days.

Not sure if you did something to your setup, but I find that this video sounds really well. Maybe I'm only imagining it, but there's not much echo and the sound quality is very nice

Im consistently getting 100 and 200 kills with these guys, with ogre bull or maneater support they can give SO much value

So infantery it is for a while. It is what it is.

Im so over patches that meet multiplayer requests breaking the single player fun of what feels like every second game, not just total war 😂 I get that most of the time its the community suggesting something and devs implementing it and then some, or tweaking it first. But its still annoying af. We've had periods where cav or monstrous were broken for what felt like months in the past, and now it feels like we've copped another half baked patch

Good pickup!

Melkoth's Fate of Shades

The intended counter to this is Fate of Bjuna while running and screaming in the opposite direction.

S+ tier thumbnail. Never even saw the channel before now! 😂 But 10/10

Imagine if spearmen were released today. Oh boy they would be gutting grail knights, bloodthirsters while also trading even into chosen.

Crazy how these guys ended up with this level of Performance but Wrathmongers, the elite of the elite of the melee elite roster, lose to Black Orcs 1v1.

I resepct the dedication in finding out how the bug happened

They're patching it next week.

All the ogre units seem affected as well. I was so excited to play as golgfag, and in my firstbattle my maneaters traded with a tier 1 basic unbracedspearman unit as he charged downhill...

So the weird part about this whole thing is, when they were testing the update, did they not run into this issue instantly? Like how did they not catch this - SO BAD..

I was the one who told the world where my money is for using my intellectual property xD

The first mistake was listen to the 10 guys who play multiplayer

10:55 KH vs TK 27:27 CD vs WE 55:27 GS vs GS 1:07:44 KH vs KH 1:32:06 Da Acid Burpa vs Knights of the Realm 1:34:55 Arachnarok Spider (flinger) vs Spearmen 1:42:04 Thundertusk vs Spearmen 1:52:22 GS vs NRS 2:07:04 OK vs GS 2:17:15 BM vs LZM 2:27:59 TZ vs DoC 2:37:03 SKV vs KH 2:45:10 GS vs GS 2:56:38 KH vs KH 3:06:23 TK vs KH 3:12:48 DE vs GS 3:21:37 BM vs OK

Fix on workshop for now

i thought them pretending to be cavalry is supposed to be a typical warhammer joke they arent supposed to actually have cavalry charge bonus lol

I think the game check for how many target are touched by the splash, divide damage by the number of entities hit and do those divided damage to a number of entities equal to 100:1

ok so some suggestions to fix this: half the charge bonus on piggyback knights, then add an effect that increases the charge bonus up to current when large units are close. remove that extra melee defence perk, because gnoblars riding gnoblars should not have more melee defence than chaos warriors increase their cost. that should happen even with other nerfs. remove their SILVER SHIELDS so these fellas can at least get shot by low tier archers like crossbowmen or peasant bows remove the anti large, since the charge bonus is already enough give them the mass profile of cain wraiths and add a mid-air animation of them flailing their arms about (a mid ground between nurgling level animations and no knockback) post other suggestions in comments.

You do understand that ANY unit that reaches 100 weapon strength wich includes charge bonus. Does 0 damage and has bugged attacks?

Considering that they are an ROR unit meaning you can only take one of them I think simply a large cost increase for MP would be a good move in balancing them. They're not going to be carrying games and CA has a habit of over-nerfing units which I'd like to see them avoid in this case. Make the cost something like 750, 50% increase of what they are now and halve their charge bonus perhaps.

Don't see whats so bad, they are a mounted anti-large unit attacking monstrous cavalry. 😂

Yeah, they are quite a bit overtuned, but they are still just a RoR unit, you only get 1, maybe removing stats and adding them to the synchronization could make them good in alpha strikes, but the moment they hit 50%, they crumble. And it is quite funny to think about that a possible reason for not making the falling down animation could be to hard to make when they did the atrocity that is the floaty mangle squigs.

How does this stuff get out the door, CA typical half assed take the money release undercooked jank.

There’s also a bug you can’t drag armies into groups already made. Which is A LITTLE frustrating 😢😢 I’ve been needing to unmake groups then remake them to add them to it

remove them and give us crushers with harpoon lanchers new missile cav for ogres

Sheesh yeah they are gross. Thankfully they don't have charge reflection too... unless they are standing next to a Bruiser with Belly Stance 🙄

Given how shitty the end times was that first and second fight were actually lore accurate.

You have heard about charge defense. Now prepare for charge offense

Is this also affecting campaign?

Bretonnia could learn a thing or two

It's like charge defense but way better lol

60 V 16, easy 60 wins.

putting 30/40 ma/md with 50 charge bonus on a cheap infantry unit with 100 models seems great.

Did kadai and bear riders have splash attacks before the update? Maybe the problem is caused by units that aren't designed to do splash attacks trying to do splash attacks.

I was wondering why skaven slaves were beating my maneaters....whelp...

These thumbnails are simultaneously hilarious, and very well done. Great work TequilaSunset! Loving the content as always.

if the multiplayer community does CA's job, I assume multiplayer is free to play?

This one looks almost intentional. Like some dev decided to leave a treat behind.

Yup, they are ridiculous

To me, it just looks like the Fireborn and Chaos Warriors are fighting without any bonus VS infantry applied. The charge bonus is, but the rest of the fight proceeds as if it was just their regular statlines. But perhaps it's some or all of what you say as well, considering there's many more units in the Chaos Warrior unit. However, again, each Fireborn model has more HP...

And here I just started a Gelt wizard army, with 200% spell mastery. Blowing up everything in my wake like I'm still in Estalia.

Someone should loose job after giving us that update after new factions like ogres…

Dogshit company omfg. Remember when it took them weeks to fix the weapon dmg % bug????????

The bugs from this patch have been PEEEAK.