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Astros are eliminating the os in the post season

Not an upgrade. It's just an replacement for the injured pitchers in the rotation. You need a #2 or even another #1 pitcher to have a chance at the WS. The GM needs to give up some prospects to do it because if you don't do it now you will in the offseason because Corbin is gone. Skubal would be a perfect fit because he has 2 years more of control. Pitching wins world series more than hitters normally. You have Skubal and Corbin 1 and 2 in the playoffs it will most likely put Baltimore over the top.

After seeing Kremer’s last two starts they better grab another SP to add to this Eflin deal! 🫤

There is no way the tigers are trading skubal. There’s no way, even Hinch said there’s zero way for him to trade such a cy young caliber pitcher.

eh. Eflin is a good get for us. We didnt give up any of our top prospects for him, and yes, he is rotation depth! Has some post season experience and he doesnt walk anyone....

Well, he's with Tampa now....

Just curious, how can he not be a good pickup? We didn’t have to give up the future to get him. And, since I’m curious, what exactly makes you an expert to question Elias’ moves? Not being a jerk, I just want to your experience.

Phillies fan here, think you nailed it! Too early to tell who won! I liked Pache but we already have another project in Rojas! Seranthony has/had the heat but who knows where it’s going? If someone could reel him in just a little, they may have something!

Orioles are garbage right now. I can't think of one person in the pen I trust. Not one! 2 starters I like. And that's it. All swinging for the fences. Garbage

From a phillies fans perspective; Dominguez can be a really good bullpen arm. Hes been struggling with confidence more than anything, you give him some and he could be the best in your pen. Pache has been pretty mid to trash. He hasnt been improving at all and actually regressed K. Long is an excellent hitting coach and Pache still cant hit middle middle fastballs

So you’re saying we gave up too much. Fuck!!!!

Love the trade, and your right, first one I've seen that doesn't like the trade. Ryan Ripken loves the trade too.

I thought Etzel would be an Oriole one day..Love his game.Weez wuz robbed.. Apparently Elias is looking for back of the rotation innings eater..Otherwise this trade makes no sense if we're trying to win now..I'm becoming a bit concerned with Elias's trades..

How can he not be an upgrade? He's 1 year removed from finishing 6th in Cy Young voting. He walks nobody and has post season experience

Short answer… YES. They need SP that can chew up innings and give us a chance to win. He’s better than Kremer, Suarez and Irvin imo. In a new city, new yard & new team he’ll be better… you’ll see! 😂 Btw… I gotta feel that way as an O’s fan ya know! I still want Skubal or Crochet though

Eflin is better than Suarez, Povich, Mcdermott and Kremer right now. Hes your number three in the playoffs. Hoping for more though.

Hays totally expendable as the Orioles are loaded with high upside outfield prospects. If they can get Dominguez on track he’s a stud. So, the orioles trade a piece they don’t need for a dice roll chance to hit it out of the park. Dominguez could be an absolute stud. Great trade by the Orioles.

Solid for both teams. Seranthony changed his slider grip this year and it took time for him to be able to throw it for strikes. He has been dominant in the past and I wish him well. Phillies got exactly what they wanted without giving any prospects imo. Would love to meet the Os in the WS.

Phillies fan - Ser Anthony is solid but he’s either an all star pitcher or AAA there’s no in between. Pache was ok and a great development piece.

O’s trade for Eflin (TB) for three prospects … none named Holliday, Norby, Mayo, Basallo, McDermott or Povich

Seranthony has plus-plus stuff. His biggest red flag is his brain. He gets in his own head in clutch situations. His command suffers. Good luck with him. No takebacks.

We need bullpen help but I’m gonna miss Hays

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I got the teaser story today on my phone with a pic of Hays… really thought they pulled the trigger on a SP. Clicked on the story and read it….I was disappointed at first, but then I came to the conclusion that this was likely more a salary dump type trade for a BP arm; with the saved salary in the trade launching Elias toward a bigger deal for a big SP later… fingers crossed! Toes crossed too!

Trade makes sense. Hays' playing time and production has diminished and the outfielders have a surplus of outfielders. To get a high velocity reliever back as well as an outfielder for a part time player who's declined statistically it's a win for the O's. Hope Hays does well for the Phillies but it's the right move for the O's. Pache isn't going to play much for the O's in my opinion. Probably a depth guy or someone for insurance if someone gets hurt.

This one stings as an O’s fan but needed to happen. Hays struggled bad early this season which gave enough of a window to Cowser and Kjerstad to produce and get the O’s dreaming about their upside. In other words, Hays lost his grip on his spot and others jumped at the opportunity. That’s baseball. I know Hays was a vet on the team and a respected dude, but it might end up as a better situation for all parties to have Pache take his place as the bench OF/pinch-run guy for the O’s…a position that more clearly fits a player of his skill set and production in the bigs thus far. There has to be some awkwardness having a former All-Star and one of your most tenured players riding the pine that much.

First thought with Pache is that he’s gonna get packaged and dropped to another team, maybe with Urias, to scoop up a similar middle of the road reliever from someone else

I like it. Hays isn't going to win us a WS. Solid (some of the time), but I wouldn't say he's a difference maker. It's a clear upgrade in the bp. I'll take that all day long.

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Seranthony can be NASTY. In 2018 he had 16 saves, below 3 ERA, WHIP below 1 with 74 K in 58 IP. His career ERA is 3.55. This is a valuable piece.

Can you cover the Tarik Skubal thing? Just curious on your opinion.

This is a bad trade I’ll give it a F plus

Seems like this was more about dumping Hays than the returns we got.

B for Phils. C- for Orioles. Pache and Dominguez are not good. And to the dreamers out there that think the Orioles are going to turn around Dominguez and make him suddenly good, Fuji and Flaherty say hello.

Hays, Mullins, Urias are all on their way out, and they still may be traded before Tuesday. But the Orioles are not going to give these guys a raise for next year, so get something for them, and free up space for the young guys. I'm fine with the trade., I wish Hay's the best, but it's time to move on.

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Skubal is 27. Best pitcher in mlb. Tigers trading him is proof they aren't rebuilding. Just trying to hook fans into believing they are. It doesnt take 20 yrs to rebuild. The tigers average age is over 27. Get rid of the never will bes and get more good players

The thought process is right, but it would have to be 2 of the top guys. Can’t sub out Mayo for Mountcastle. Wouldn’t make sense from the Tigers side. Mayo, Basallo, and two younger 2nd tier prospects could possibly get it done. The Tigers either have to keep Skubal to form a crazy 1/2 with Jobe… or they HAVE to get 2 impact bats by trading him. If next year goes terribly, they could still trade him for 1 impact bat and some young lower prospects. Tigers would try to get 3 top prospects for him but timing isn’t right. Need AJ Preller or a desperate GM for that. If the O’s don’t do a Skubal deal and don’t win a WS the next couple years, then they’d be more likely to “overpay” for an ace…they’re still playing with house money right now.

it’s awesome to see a USM player doing this good in pro ball! cant wait to see his big league debut! with the way he is playing, it should be beginning of next season!

Dudes better than Burnes 3 or 4th starter that's Laughable, but I do agree he's prob un affordable

Of course we want alot he's a cy Young candidate we better get 4 top prospects if not Ba bye

Seriously dude? Are you kidding me? Pick 1? No, not pick 1. Pick 2 of those guys, along with 2 or 3 of your tier 2 prospects. Do you remember what the Pads got for Soto? And that was for ONE YEAR! Skubal is the Cy Young favorite, and you get him for 2 1/2 years! No, if we don't get 2 of the 4 that you mentioned, then no trade, PERIOD!

The Tigers don't want to trade Skubal, which is why an overpay would need to happen to acquire him.

As a tiger fan, what we’re talking about here… the return would be holiday, mayo and beavers. That is an acceptable return for skubal because like you said you were trading for a championship.

Tigers fan. The Tigers aren’t trading Skubal unless it’s an offer they can’t refuse. IMO it’ll take 3 top prospects. We’re talking about a laft handed bulldog who throws triple digits with 3 years of control. Any package the Tigers take is going to hurt. Skubal is a top 5 starter and someone that would make the O’s an instant WS favorite. Good luck to the O’s, I’m pulling for you guys.

Holliday doesn't have a spot on this team. An All Star 3B is already going to have to move to 2B so Mayo aka Gunnar 2.0 with more power can play 3B or you have such a logjam at 1B you can't find enough bats for Mounty, O'Hearn, and Mayo. Mayo's spot is 3B. Think of Holliday or Basallo as aces because thats what they're going to become via trade.

Detroit Tigers lineup in 2027? Max Clark, Colt Keith, Riley Greene, Coby Mayo, Heston Kjerstad, Jace Jung, Hao-Yu Lee, Kevin McGonigle, Dillon Dingler. Very nice lineup. The pitching staff in 2027, who knows? Jobe, Olson, Mize and 9 other guys we don't know yet. They could trade Jack Flaherty, Kerry Carpenter, Spencer Torkelson, Justyn Henry Malloy, and Parker Meadows to try and add some pitching.

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