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@@TheThejpmshow yup sounds about right 🤣 Takes so long to get anything done

@@dianehuddle660 junction 24 (coldra roundabout) follow the A449 and turn off where it meets the A40 and follow the signs to Abergavenny from there

brand new drone, first time flying as well

J25A - Brynglas

@@LWR1 and it was my first time too

@@munimkhan4207 Thanks glad you liked ❤️

@@kevdavies3445 but why

@@kevdavies3445 no point in complaining now, construction has been underway since 2021 and it's nearing completion, besides WAG stated that it's only going ahead because the relief road in Newport didn't

@@mataisgood9046 had to sprinkle in a bit of clickbait 😅

Ha ha 😆 yes

Are there any photos of the gap left for the M60

I used capcut at the time I had almost no control over the extent of the transitions and at the time I was using a laptop that would struggle playing the video, so I do get where you're coming from but hey have you seen the newer ones, and if they are the same as what you're describing because if so I find this really helpful ❤️

@@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport Sorry I was a bit snotty in my criticism and thank you for your prompt response. Yes I have seen lots of the newer ones now that You Tube has directed me to your channel. Good stuff! They're packed full with information and I've enjoyed binging on them.

@@JP_TaVeryMuch glad you like them

@@Anonymoususer_8823 I wish it met up with the M65 too as that would make sense but that was never really in the proposal annoyingly enough

⁠Indeed. Plus the M67 motorway should have gone all the way to Sheffield and would have meet up with the M1 motorway to the south of Sheffield or near Chesterfield.

They've made attempts at building a bypass connecting the M67 to the M1 but I keep reading the proposal and leads to the same reason as to why the M67 was never completed, it's nearly geologically impossible to put it simply

@@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport The only bit that was a sticking point was the cross-Pennine section. Many options were presented, including a surface road, a tunnel, reusing the Woodhead tunnels and a cutting, and all were rejected. The Woodhead tunnels I can accept, they'd never have been good enough, but the overground options were blocked because it's the Peak District and it wasn't allowed, and nobody wanted to foot the bill for a new tunnel - a fact proved by just how crap the Stocksbridge Bypass is compared to what was planned, and the fact they built it to such a low standard that even the sections that could be turned into a motorway (or at least a half decent dual carriageway) can't without completely redesigning the existing grade separated junctions. Of course, none of this excuses the utter clusterfuck of Mottram Junction or the bypass that has been lobbied for by the locals for at least as long as I've been alive (I'm 53). They've finally relented and have started to build something, but it's only going to dump the traffic in Tintwistle, which it goes through already and isn't really resolving the issue for anyone except the residents of Mottram. And they're making it worse by STILL offloading the M67 onto the roundabout instead of using the slip roads that are pretty much ready to bolt on to. I still find it odd that the only thing linking the two largest cities in the North is a piddly single carriageway

⁠True. 👍

Then you might find this rather interesting th-cam.com/video/hyylrevtthw/w-d-xo.htmlsi=WKPGkWfW4PxKOxgq

Amen brother

@@gammock4026 I half thought it was pronounced like that and as I'm obviously not from North of England or England for that matter, I likely screwed up somewhere lol, Good to know, thanks

Yes, can confirm (lived in East Lancashire). And also Bury is pronounced "berry" (despite what some may tell you). Quite a few of the placenames round there do have some unusual pronounciation 😅

​@@QuantumPulsarMany locals still pronounce it is "Burry". It's roughly a 2 to 1 split for Berry over Burry though.

@@joinedupjon yep indeed, and luckily a lot more care goes into planning a road that's why it takes several years just to get through the planning process as you need to plan out each phase of construction and ensure noise levels are below a certain level and meet strict regulations and guidelines and of course environmental reasons

You're not wrong, but it's an issue that wouldn't have existed if the second motorway span had been built. This was going to run from just west of the Eccles interchange (J12) and follow the route of the existing motorway until just east of Simister Island (J18). It would have had three junctions in total, not counting the start and end points, which were with the M61, the (unbuilt) M601 and the M66. This would've made for a proper cross-country motorway and left the existing stretch through the Irwell Valley, with all its horrible junctions, as a provincial stretch which would've formed the M60 (or whatever they'd planned to call it then). It would also have cut out the confusing and nasty Eccles Interchange, which is only confusing and nasty because the M62 to Livepool was originally the M54 and would have taken up what is now the M602 as well - but unfortunately it was already built before someone had the brainwave of a cross country motorway. The M601, incidentally, was going to be the Prestwich Bypass and was the reason for the missing junction number for all those years. That would've headed into North Manchester and terminated at the proposed inner ring motorway, which also thankfully never got built. Apologies if you already knew all that...

The map showing the M60 as the M66 is from my A to Z motorways map of England and Wales from 1992 I think and the other shows the M66 just as the Middleton link is a 1976 Bartholomew map provided by QuantumPulsar although I do have a similar map of Manchester from the late 60's which I now wish I had put in the video

I thought I said that

Wait, how else am I supposed to say it

It's dialect based and both are valid. The difference is in the 'unce' vs 'ounce' sound. It doesn't really matter. Same as glass vs glarse.

@@JasonAtlas *Pronounciation isn't a word. You're right, it doesn't matter, it was just ironic in the context.

​@@DadgeCity I just realised, my mind is slow at processing information woops 😅

Appreciate it mate ❤️

@@shaun30-3-mg9zs yes it is and I had I good week of work experience too when that was filmed

@@shaun30-3-mg9zs I think a study was done but isn't viable due to cost and the rugged terrain of Wales, I think Scotland's A9 has similar issues

@@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport Hi mate thanks for your reply, That sums it up Wales and Scotland loses out when it comes for decent roads. Catch you soon👍

@@leedaniels1468 I still think the relief road should be built, ain't no one going 90 miles north to bypass the M4

Thanks 😁

There were shops proposed but it's all housing now, it's very stupid

@@CristiNeagu it's a road works zone it's usually for safety but I do think it should be a bit higher

@@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport It doesn't look any more dangerous than any other single carriage way. In fact, the lanes look a bit wider than usual.

True, usually they would be narrow lanes but you are correct, the reason is probably because of the unusually wide hard shoulder? That honestly doesn't make sense to me, and again I do think at best the speed limit should be between 50 or 60mph

@@UK.RoadsCyclingandTransport The reason is that they don't care about traffic flow. They just put blanket 40mph speed limits whenever there's any type of roadworks. This works for whoever is managing that section of motorway because they don't need to think about it, and it works for the government at large who are trying to annoy us into giving up our cars. And then the roadworks are in place for several years because you never see any workers there, and we're left holding the short end of the stick.

Nice signage

@@250renfe thank you