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28:01 this aged well

I would love to see a game make a Super Hatchiyack and Baby fusion and have it be story relavent. Perhaps for a Sparking Zero DLC, it could focus on Plan to Eradicate the Sayians and Baby saga (as there are a few missing Baby and Vegeta forms as well as a few missing characters such as Rildo.) Where Hachiyack gets both his giant form and Super form. Then on top of that Baby uses the Earth Dragon Balls to revive Hatchiyack so the two can fight together as the pinacles of the Tuffle race. Or something dumb and fun like that, I wish more Tuffle characters showed up in Dragon Ball media.

Regarding Sigma Force, saying they are not impressive wouldn't contradict what he said previously though. It just means he doesn't compare to Goku's current power.

Also, when Goten is fighting the undeveloped Baby, he says Baby is stronger than anybody they’ve ever faced before The last person Goten fought that we know of, was Super Boo nobody absorbed

You could argue Super Saiyan 2 Baby is stronger than Super Vegito, because he says he has the greatest Saiyan power in history, and Goku does not disagree with him Later on, in the Shadow Dragon arc, SSJ4 Goku & Vegeta retain their memories of what happened after defusing from Gogeta, remembering everything that happened in their absence

Brolys not that strong It wouldn’t make sense in the story if he were Paragus, who controlled Broly until he met Goku, has no reason for Broly to destroy a whole galaxy, let alone a quarter of the universe they’re trying to take back Goku also travels to the planets Broly laid waste to, as seen in the intro with the galaxy fading away So he didn’t destroy them, he just wiped them all of life

The problem with scaling baby is that a lot of people take the "Saiyan Pinnacle"thing as to mean he is now stronger than Vegito from Dragon Ball Z, when in actuality GT Goku in Super Saiyan 3 should be stronger than Vegito, it's been 15 years in end of Z, Base Goku is already relative if not stronger than his Super Saiyan 3 counterpart of the buu Saga, five more years of training with a kid buu level fighter, should make him a lot stronger than 10 years of training with people who aren't even close to kid Buus level, in the statement that says Super Saiyan 4 Rivals Vegito is definitely talking about the difference in power between Goku's Base in the buu Saga and Vegito's, or if Goku had initial Super Saiyan 4 in the buu Saga he would be as strong as Vegito, now the question is, do they mean Base Vegito or Super Vegito, you also didn't account for the Baby Buff which is Base baby = everyone he has been in and then you add that to the person he's in right now, which would make sense why Vegeta is struggling against baby Gohan in Super Saiyan, and mind controlled Goten. But Goku was able to No Diff them, overall this video seems like it's based on statements and feats, and not backwards scaling, which is hard because most Dragon Ball content only talks about the "Universal Tier" of power when even base end of Z goku is a universal threat.

Really loving these videos

GT Trunks solos dbz fusion reborn gogeta

GT infact has most of the movies cannon to it. most agree on it

The Baby thing is weird. I think he is powerful as he is hyped up but early on his body can't handle the power yet. Goten said that Baby's power is higher than anyone they faced so far. So I take that Baby at the least in his Child Form is stronger than Super Boo. Goten was confident that he could beat him but I don't think Goten was stronger than Baby. He did get some good hits in in Base but even as a Super Saiyan, Baby is implied that he toyed with him easily dodging a barrage of energy attacks and tanking a head-on Kamehameha. After that he possessed Goten's body without issue. The thing that makes things hard to scale is the powerboost non-permanent host Baby gives to the user. Baby Goten can be assumed to be stronger than Goten and Gohan did say their kis mixed. But I don't believe Baby Goten's power was even both Goten's and Baby's powers combined, but a milder boost considering Baby needs a lot of power to possess his next host. So in my mind, Gohan is significantly stronger than Super Boo in GT and can be seen that Goku during the Baby Saga who folded both in Base has to be stronger than Boohan. The Ultimate Form + Super Saiyan thing, I think it is mainly because how Gohan's eyes are drawn in GT. They look like he is always in Ultimate Form. The eye-lines always look connected like in Super Saiyan. Thus when he transforms, it seems reasonable that he can combine the 'forms' even if it makes no sense. Not that anything makes sense now since Gohan can use Beast which suppose to be a form above Ultimate, tho Gohan should have access to all his power without transforming. In other words, both GT and Super break the rules, and thus the author Toriyama. How Super Saiyan God works seems to have been retconned after Revival of F. Goku and Vegeta should not be using Super Saiyan besides Super Saiyan Blue. Bills is no longer a 10 to SSJG BoG Goku's 7. And I also think the power boost from Potara in Super is different. Instead of A x B + rivalty boost, it is (A + B)*10^n kinda like regular fusion accoding to Vados. So Vegito in the Super continuaty is significantly weaker than pre-retcon Vegito from the manga (and Z anime) and probably can bully Super Saiyan Blue Goku from ToP. The scaling in Super is also shit because SSJG Goku in ToP even tired should toy with SSJ2 Kefla but gets humiliated by Base Kefla. Sry it got long.

Can baby beat goku black ?

Subspace is Outer but not sugoruku n HTC 5D subspace is logically disingenuous

Initial level of Base Rildo is established as the largest ki for an opponent so far and stronger than Buu before getting beat up by Pan. Base Goten and Trunks GT are stronger than dbz except Vegito . Dbs characters make it upto GT before Baby arc Goku sugoroku space destruction .

Weaker than base Cabba, saved you a click

3:26 Vegeta always fucks it up at least once before making Gogeta the right way

Id beat his ass

The movies r literally cannon to the GT timeline bro idk what to tell u🤷

I've never seen someone making a dragonball scaling video and being so confidently wrong😂😂

Ngl God KI aint that crazy buff when you remember Jiren beating SSJB Goku

6:27 that cant be the actual name right?

While i am not good with this type of scaling suoer baby 2 should be able to hokd his own in the universe 6 tournament probably falling around the lvl of goku and Vegeta ssjg forms and in golden great ape rivaling the blue forms of goku and Vegeta along with initial hit but falling well below peak hit and ssjb kaiokenx10 goku only using his scaling from the anime

Totally just head cannon, but I always imagined GT taking place after Super, and that the Gods wiped the memories of the mortals; including their memories of God Ki, etc. Their base power levels are higher than in super, but ss4 is an inferior form compared to the god ki forms, so the saiyans aren’t anywhere near Super level power due to the loss of the superior God ki forms. Again, just head cannon.

Numbers destroying GT fans is amazing. Why can’t y’all just love gt cause y’all love it? You don’t need to make it stronger than Super and ignore logic to do so. Just be happy that your show exists. It’s not that hard.

Bring this guy back to super PLZ

This is a crazy high quality video. I can tell a lot of hard work was required.

Yah ssj4 negs super And zeno

Can you do super goku vs gt goku?

now just imagine that baby vegeta somehow found a way to go from ozaru form to ssj4

Lowball being Universal + is dumb ngl, Buuhan level characters are Universal, so Baby at his full power would without question be above it by large amount. It is still better compered to downplay Gt fanboys give it. Also for the Blutz Waves thingy, even if Baby is given large amount of Blutz Waves needed, it does not change how strong form makes him but adds energy on top of his base strength, since damage is often shown to effect ki (Such as Gohan's arm being damaged by Cell cut his power in half), being given extra energy would heal his wounds. Pretty much the extra Blutz Wave just add more energy into his ki not add more power into his transformation.

Friendly reminder that GT is canon to the Z anime.

numberZ uploading 2 videos in a month?! boundless level++

8:41 Grade 3 doesn't give a 10x boost to super saiyan (its still 50x) that misconception came from a French guide and it will never go away Chuck even used it one time

So does country level mean Germany or like Russia cause there’s a huge difference between some countries.

The kid buu statements of being the strongest majin buu In the anime is similar to the movie statements of "infinite power" which has been used multiple times one of the people who worked on the movie even confirmed it (i dont remember who but it was someone who had influence with the movies like coolers revenge and such) so it cant always be taken face value unless we wanking the characters just a bit more

Why do people care so much about powerscaling and canon? Just watch the god damn show and stop treating it like a math exam. You’re meant to enjoy it. Every series is completely different

I was gonna do this thing where I edited a comment as I watched the video with my thoughts but this video is so well constructed it ended up just me going “I agree”. Well done this is definitely one of my favorite GT scaling videos on this platform

Idk if you guys play dokan battle,but Imagine a lr ssj goku,ssj vegeta,and piccolo (Gohan and trunks can be in the background of the card) They will have an intro that does whaterver the devs want, plus a stand by mode where vegeta is the one in charge. Once enough orbs are obtained, goku launches the spirtit bomb. This would be perfect for Tanatbata and dont forget Lr hatchiyak for part 2

I love this review! it was funny and I had some good laughs.❤

TL;DR Mr Satan fodder

Daizenshu is the worst outdated source you could be siting

Uub next?

I like baby

43 minutes of glaze

What was the green door called in the sugoroku space.

How strong is Zahha next

26:57 nope, it was comparing dbz vegito in general to ssj4 goku at that point

Low Multi with infinite speed seems the most reasonable in all honesty.

Look Numbers...BABY IS OUTER RRRAGGHHH