LET THE HATE (comments) FLOW THROUGH YOU…… (Continue down for QnA)... Q1. Let me address one L for myself. Sorry for my trash audio mixing. You can clearly tell it was never my strong suit. Several instances of me not doing a retake for my script led to weird cuts and audio clipping. Hopefully I learn from this cuz yall deserve better quality vids. Q2. How does the Cruiser Shockwave make sense when Goku’s friends weren’t instantly killed off? A: Beats me. (XD) I’m assuming they were from a safer distance not as affected compared to the city. Lets be honest here, it’s not realistic to an accurate planet impact, but it was strong enough to knock out Goku and ignite a volcano but little to no casualties. I like to believe it’s a valid feat to scale the cast since I like to see anyone else try to survive getting flung by a shockwave and see it that scales to your durability. (XD) Q3. Super Saiyan and Kaiokenx100? A: I like to obviously clarify that I’m aware the Psuedo form is not THE 1-to-1 Form Toriyama created. I’m simply saying the form would likely have a similar form multiplier to the official form with the only difference being the design. Also, considering x50 multiplier was not enough to scare Lord Slug but a x100 can, then its totally acceptable for Goku to use a massive Kaioken amp even if the finalized film didn’t have him say it out loud. Even in DBS, Goku doesn’t always says Kaiokenx20, yet Whis has stated during TOP to be using his peak power. Kaiokenx100 is a similar case. Q4. Slug’s speed and giant form seems unsatisfactory Numbs. A: I’m aware. There was little I can say about his speed from feats perspective but by lore, you can hype him up however you wish. I’m also iffy on the giant form if he does get a power up or not cuz DBZ: Super Hero throws a wrench on that but then other forms that just increases muscles show it to be a power up. I personally think it goes to show how insanely powerful Prime Slug was if he can rival SSJ1 without any multipliers. Q5. Why do you use Koyama’s opinions to debunk and support your claims? A: Let me be clear that just because he has an authority on the series for being the main writer of these films, doesn’t mean everything he says is 100% accurate. Obviously, it’s a case by case situation. That’s why I heavily emphasize the contradictions between movie villain scaling and continuity connections since Koyama goes against his own logic, yet people don’t realize the inconsistency of validating AND debunking everything he says, just to say Slug MUST be a certain level strong. I hope this at least make people to really think more logically than to assume all sources or authority is valid or invalid. Also, please be aware I’m intentionally sarcastic related to my dry sense of humor. If I can roast myself (a Discord user), yall can as well. Lol For anyone asking for the background music, it's in the description and all credit goes to the original youtubers and artists for any material used in this video.
Either way it'd be safe to say Slug could give Final form Frieza a run for his money if not defeat (in movie, afterwards stronger than that but probably lose to Golden or Black Frieza)
Anyone else think that Lord Slug’s voice sounds like Oolong’s? At least in Xenoverse 2. Great video, as usual, Numbers. Seems like you’re running out of movie villains to discuss before getting to you-know-who.
I’d hate for it to happen before we get Orange King Piccolo. With how much they prefer Z/Z movie characters over OG DragonBall characters, we might get orange *Nail* before Orange King Piccolo.
Let's be fair, False Super Saiyan I've always thought of as a midway point for actual Super Saiyan that needs crisis but the user is not quite able to handle the full power yet. But nit to the point of fully detransforming right away like Gohan, nor going ballistic like Broly or Kale, nor being forcefully suppressed like Z Broly.
[Lord slug scale] 1. Old lord slug (movie): multi galazy level with MFTL+ ~> infinite speed 2. Lord slug: universal+ with infinite speed 3. Giant lord slug: universal+ with infinite speed 4. Majin lord slug (game): universal+ with infinite speed 5. Lord slug (dark dragon ball): boundless with above irrelevant speed 6. Giant lord slug (dark dragon ball): boundless with above irrelevant speed 7. Dark dragon ball lord slug (more amped): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed 8. Lord slug (demigra amped): boundless with above irrelevant speed
I've watched the video fully and can say that was pretty good (like always) and I do like the little intro things you do at the beginning. The editing is always pretty good and never distracting either. The rest is pretty much just my thoughts. I’m having fun catching up on everything I’ve missed in one go so I hope I don’t say anything that was already touched on a dozen times (at least without adding anything new, fun, informative or interesting). If I don’t feel free to skip or just not respond to any of those parts. It is a bit late so pardon any typos. I think if I had to choose between whether or not Lord Slug referenced the anime or Tree of Might only, I'd go Tree of Might. Reasons being, the colors of the characters clothes in Bulma's memories do more closely resemble what happened in the Tree of Might overall as opposed to the original series. Although Bulma's attire specifically does resemble what she was wearing in the anime more but again it's more closely what she's wearing in that movie. The only thing that wins me over (besides the similar hairstyle) is that wouldn't make sense for Puar would've not to be depicted but it would for Gohan since it'd make sense since he was flying with Haiya-Dragon/Icarus who was in both movies. Of course there'd still be minor inconsistencies that could either "imperfect memory" for a realistic answer or just a simple inconsistency. I also noticed how Daizenshuu 6 refers to FSSJ as manifested "Super Saiyan power" for Lord Slug but also says Cooler's Revenge is the first appearance of SSJ in the movies. I agree with it being as strong as SSJ so nothing of note there; just kind of interesting the term would later be used for a “form” that was never intended be a form though. When it comes to the power relation between Cooler and Slug, I think one easy answer is just that Cooler's final form would just need to be stronger than slug. Kind of like, for example, if Android 13 was supposed to be stronger than Meta-Cooler, it'd at least have to be as Super Android 13. There is a possible interpretation that could be used under the circumstances that Koyama's interpretation (as opposed only what was known about) at the time and that he was still trying to have Movies 4 and 5 as hard to contradict as possible, then we could simply say Slug could simply be stronger than Final Form Frieza and Cool would be stronger than Mecha Frieza, this explaining Goku and Cooler’s difference in what is considered “surpassing Frieza.” But of that’s just an alternate way to look at things. Below is just logic that could be use to “justify” or explain it so no need to read it if you don’t want to since it’s all just in a headcanon-y way.
We know Koyama at least somewhat tried to make things fit in with the anime but one way I think he tried to "tactically write" things in a way to where it'd be harder for the anime to contradict the movie. I think an example of this would be how every time Cooler says something about Goku having defeated Frieza, Goku never actually acknowledges it and gives a straight answer as to whether or not he actually killed him. Luckily for him, it wasn't Goku who finished him off. Another in Lord Slug how it's hard to know how much Goku would know about Frieza and Namekians considering he doesn't react much to the information aside from never acting too confused. King Kai does say "Unless I miss my guess, not even Frieza, or perhaps even a Super Saiyan can stand up to him!" So it does sound like present tense is being used here imply Frieza might be alive, but because "Super Saiyan" aka Goku is added to that sentence and is still alive, it wouldn't make sense to use past tense. This only further “obfuscates” the “history" of the world Lord Slug takes place in (which I guess can be said for every movie being a movie). It could either be prior to encountering Frieza, or Frieza having been defeated through alternative means. The only significance of this is since Slug's stronger than Frieza but like you said, it's not known which form. Though the closest chapter released 3 months prior would be the chapter where Final Form Frieza appears which is interestingly has it's title reference that it was essentially about a "Super Saiyan" fighting a Super Frieza which is very similar to the concept of a "Super Saiyan" fighting a Super Namekian. Of course SSJ and 100% (whether you count it as an extension of Final Form Frieza or a separate form)
False SSJ from Lord Slug = SSJ. Toei just didn't know how to make it look cause it was before Goku went SSJ in the manga/anime. The movie also states Lord Slug>Frieza. People write that off by saying it's a weaker form of Frieza he's superior to. But Goku needed kk x100 to beat Lord Slug and a spirit bomb.
I think Goku and Krillin didn't fly at their mach speed because they wanted to hit the meteor without wasting too much energy. While in the previous movie they went all out to stop Dr. W. Even if we don't want to scale the previous movies. Regarding the Frieza thing, I think it doesn't really matter. Most the Frieza statements are by characters who never saw Frieza being serious or have yet to see. Like King Kai in that continuaty only knows about first form Frieza's power as we have seen in the show and manga, he was always astonished how much stronger Frieza became each time he survived or transformed. I always assumed that Gigantification gives the users physical strength in exchange for speed and other things. Like an Oozaru (even without the 10 times boost) would probably perform better than Piccolo who increases his size. Changing ones size only matters depending on how the character fights or uses it in fights, like in OG Dragon Ball, Goku's small size often was an advantage to avoid enemy hits and bigger enemies are easier targets. From my view point, Piccolo is not as experienced in fighting with his larger size unlike Slug who showed more creativity with what he is given making most out of Namekian abilities. Piccolo seems to focus on patching up weaknesses and fights more like an earthling, relying rarely on Namekian traits like expanding his arms and size manipulation. I am sad that Goku's false Super Saiyan never appeared in a game so far. Such a shame it get referred so often.
I want him to return if only so I can see more of the cool uniforms his soldiers had, Goku or someone else like Goten or Pan take that unique Super Saiyan Form Goku had which would make it viablr for the games and maybe it could be used as a comparison between both Piccolo's Development and Slugs)
I am so grateful for this video it explains so much to me right off the bat I was always questioning the tree of Life movie and what time zone did it take place but if he made the movie based off of the multi universe ideal that explains a lot
I never knew about the ki barrier needing to be twice as powerful to hold up, interesting, i wonder how slug would judge how much energy to use. Does anyone know if dbz characters can sense power levels of energy blasts, ive seen every episode and movie except for most of super db heroes but i could have forgotten such a statement if one was made
For my sake I usually put Slug above Frieza’s 1st form since most of the universe did not know Frieza could transform with only a select few knowing about it. Thus most of the universe would be referring to Frieza’s 530K power level. Thus I’ll say Slug is stronger than 1st from Frieza but gets clapped by 2nd form Frieza. As for giant form if we go by that 10x statement then that’ll put him above 1-3rd form Frieza but most likely gets stomped out by a final form Frieza going at like 10% (12Mill)
I think what piccolo was referring to was he receives a size buff. Because obviously the bigger you are the heavier you hit. But he doesn't necessarily receive a power boost. Like the great ape form. But calling it a bluff is crazy. If you don't like using the form that's fine cause of size? Understood
Technically Slug Is probably more comparable to someone like imperfect or semi perfect Cell considering he took a hit form a KKx100, which is the same multiplier as SSJ2 I believe, though power change is a think hence why I said he might be closer to Imperfect cell, or semi perfect cell instead of Perfect cell
Damn, sad how I personally actually enjoyed this Slug and his Film and it seems like he’s close to the weakest character and (in-terms of views) has the least amount of them, even Hirudegarns Dumbass has 3k more views at this current point in time (rn slug would have 7k Views) sad to see at The literal evil Green Bean Giant isn’t a fan favorite.
Originally Goku was supposed to have black hair in a super Saiyan form play toriyama didn't feel like coloring it in that's why when he was fighting Frieza his hair turned gold along with his energy whenever he is fighting slug his energy turned gold put his hair remained black that's because of that movie a toriyama took the time and coloring in his hair when in the show when he's fighting Frieza he didn't feel like taking the time and that's why when Goku turns super Saiyan his hair turns gold
If Slug ever looked as intimidating as he does in that thumbnail Goku MIGHT actually need the true SSJ form. The keyword is "might" KKx20 folds this overgrown Namekian like a lawn chair.
Slug would be close to Frieza or SSJ1 goku during the namek arc according to thsoe so realistically they WOULD be able to oppose him but it'd be a close fight regardless. And you are mistaken, re-read piccolo's line in the Cell Max movie. it DOES increase his power but its not a huge increase. Piccolo states that himself. Its just PRIMARILY a bluff not just a bluff.
Wrong bro *Piccolo* tell (Gohan) (You're pretty much his size now. Do you think you can beat him now?) *wishful thinking* *Making my body bigger didn't make me any stronger* *it's basically a bluff* This is from 1 hour and 20 minute mark of the movie Giant form doesn't make you stronger just bigger
@@Boostergold03 Not, true, piccolo says he doesn't seem "MUCH" Stronger That means there is a power increase but its relatively small. He says that while recalling using it vs Goku in OG DB. Meaning both times he had a power increase relative to what he was without that form. What he means by your statement is that it wasn't significantly stronger (just technically stronger) it wasn't something that would of been a outcome changing power up.
@@patg108At 1:20:12 Gohan says- Hey Piccolo, You're pretty much his size now. At 1:20:15 Gohan says- Do you think you're strong enough to beat him like this? At 1:20:17 Piccolo says- wishful thinking. At 1:20:18 Gohan says- huh At 1:20:19 Piccolo says- making my body bigger didn't make me any stronger At 1:20:22 Piccolo says- it's basically a bluff. This is time stamp and word for word.
just for everyone, i never once ever called goku son goku. who fucking cares his family name. goku isnt his last name. always sounds like son as in child. theres nothing bad ass about calling someone son
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Q1. Let me address one L for myself. Sorry for my trash audio mixing. You can clearly tell it was never my strong suit. Several instances of me not doing a retake for my script led to weird cuts and audio clipping. Hopefully I learn from this cuz yall deserve better quality vids.
Q2. How does the Cruiser Shockwave make sense when Goku’s friends weren’t instantly killed off?
A: Beats me. (XD) I’m assuming they were from a safer distance not as affected compared to the city. Lets be honest here, it’s not realistic to an accurate planet impact, but it was strong enough to knock out Goku and ignite a volcano but little to no casualties. I like to believe it’s a valid feat to scale the cast since I like to see anyone else try to survive getting flung by a shockwave and see it that scales to your durability. (XD)
Q3. Super Saiyan and Kaiokenx100?
A: I like to obviously clarify that I’m aware the Psuedo form is not THE 1-to-1 Form Toriyama created. I’m simply saying the form would likely have a similar form multiplier to the official form with the only difference being the design. Also, considering x50 multiplier was not enough to scare Lord Slug but a x100 can, then its totally acceptable for Goku to use a massive Kaioken amp even if the finalized film didn’t have him say it out loud. Even in DBS, Goku doesn’t always says Kaiokenx20, yet Whis has stated during TOP to be using his peak power. Kaiokenx100 is a similar case.
Q4. Slug’s speed and giant form seems unsatisfactory Numbs.
A: I’m aware. There was little I can say about his speed from feats perspective but by lore, you can hype him up however you wish. I’m also iffy on the giant form if he does get a power up or not cuz DBZ: Super Hero throws a wrench on that but then other forms that just increases muscles show it to be a power up. I personally think it goes to show how insanely powerful Prime Slug was if he can rival SSJ1 without any multipliers.
Q5. Why do you use Koyama’s opinions to debunk and support your claims?
A: Let me be clear that just because he has an authority on the series for being the main writer of these films, doesn’t mean everything he says is 100% accurate. Obviously, it’s a case by case situation. That’s why I heavily emphasize the contradictions between movie villain scaling and continuity connections since Koyama goes against his own logic, yet people don’t realize the inconsistency of validating AND debunking everything he says, just to say Slug MUST be a certain level strong. I hope this at least make people to really think more logically than to assume all sources or authority is valid or invalid.
Also, please be aware I’m intentionally sarcastic related to my dry sense of humor. If I can roast myself (a Discord user), yall can as well. Lol For anyone asking for the background music, it's in the description and all credit goes to the original youtubers and artists for any material used in this video.
Either way it'd be safe to say Slug could give Final form Frieza a run for his money if not defeat (in movie, afterwards stronger than that but probably lose to Golden or Black Frieza)
And what's the Story with Mercenary Tao there being knocked out? is he dead or just unconscious? And is that fan manga?
Numbers slapping his fat slug on the table with this one
Anyone else think that Lord Slug’s voice sounds like Oolong’s? At least in Xenoverse 2.
Great video, as usual, Numbers. Seems like you’re running out of movie villains to discuss before getting to you-know-who.
Just waiting till heros gives slug the orange form
I hate that’s probably going to happen Lol
I’d hate for it to happen before we get Orange King Piccolo.
With how much they prefer Z/Z movie characters over OG DragonBall characters, we might get orange *Nail* before Orange King Piccolo.
Heroes is over
And it never happened
@@STEVEJobs-l3o what a shame
Underrated channel
Let's be fair, False Super Saiyan I've always thought of as a midway point for actual Super Saiyan that needs crisis but the user is not quite able to handle the full power yet. But nit to the point of fully detransforming right away like Gohan, nor going ballistic like Broly or Kale, nor being forcefully suppressed like Z Broly.
Where's the movie takes place in chronologically?
No where the movies have inconsistencies that make it impossible to place them in between certain points@@ΣτέλιοςΠαναγιώτης
[Lord slug scale]
1. Old lord slug (movie): multi galazy level with MFTL+ ~> infinite speed
2. Lord slug: universal+ with infinite speed
3. Giant lord slug: universal+ with infinite speed
4. Majin lord slug (game): universal+ with infinite speed
5. Lord slug (dark dragon ball): boundless with above irrelevant speed
6. Giant lord slug (dark dragon ball): boundless with above irrelevant speed
7. Dark dragon ball lord slug (more amped): infinite boundless with above irrelevant speed
8. Lord slug (demigra amped): boundless with above irrelevant speed
I've watched the video fully and can say that was pretty good (like always) and I do like the little intro things you do at the beginning. The editing is always pretty good and never distracting either. The rest is pretty much just my thoughts.
I’m having fun catching up on everything I’ve missed in one go so I hope I don’t say anything that was already touched on a dozen times (at least without adding anything new, fun, informative or interesting). If I don’t feel free to skip or just not respond to any of those parts. It is a bit late so pardon any typos.
I think if I had to choose between whether or not Lord Slug referenced the anime or Tree of Might only, I'd go Tree of Might. Reasons being, the colors of the characters clothes in Bulma's memories do more closely resemble what happened in the Tree of Might overall as opposed to the original series. Although Bulma's attire specifically does resemble what she was wearing in the anime more but again it's more closely what she's wearing in that movie.
The only thing that wins me over (besides the similar hairstyle) is that wouldn't make sense for Puar would've not to be depicted but it would for Gohan since it'd make sense since he was flying with Haiya-Dragon/Icarus who was in both movies. Of course there'd still be minor inconsistencies that could either "imperfect memory" for a realistic answer or just a simple inconsistency.
I also noticed how Daizenshuu 6 refers to FSSJ as manifested "Super Saiyan power" for Lord Slug but also says Cooler's Revenge is the first appearance of SSJ in the movies. I agree with it being as strong as SSJ so nothing of note there; just kind of interesting the term would later be used for a “form” that was never intended be a form though.
When it comes to the power relation between Cooler and Slug, I think one easy answer is just that Cooler's final form would just need to be stronger than slug. Kind of like, for example, if Android 13 was supposed to be stronger than Meta-Cooler, it'd at least have to be as Super Android 13.
There is a possible interpretation that could be used under the circumstances that Koyama's interpretation (as opposed only what was known about) at the time and that he was still trying to have Movies 4 and 5 as hard to contradict as possible, then we could simply say Slug could simply be stronger than Final Form Frieza and Cool would be stronger than Mecha Frieza, this explaining Goku and Cooler’s difference in what is considered “surpassing Frieza.”
But of that’s just an alternate way to look at things. Below is just logic that could be use to “justify” or explain it so no need to read it if you don’t want to since it’s all just in a headcanon-y way.
We know Koyama at least somewhat tried to make things fit in with the anime but one way I think he tried to "tactically write" things in a way to where it'd be harder for the anime to contradict the movie. I think an example of this would be how every time Cooler says something about Goku having defeated Frieza, Goku never actually acknowledges it and gives a straight answer as to whether or not he actually killed him. Luckily for him, it wasn't Goku who finished him off.
Another in Lord Slug how it's hard to know how much Goku would know about Frieza and Namekians considering he doesn't react much to the information aside from never acting too confused. King Kai does say "Unless I miss my guess, not even Frieza, or perhaps even a Super Saiyan can stand up to him!" So it does sound like present tense is being used here imply Frieza might be alive, but because "Super Saiyan" aka Goku is added to that sentence and is still alive, it wouldn't make sense to use past tense.
This only further “obfuscates” the “history" of the world Lord Slug takes place in (which I guess can be said for every movie being a movie). It could either be prior to encountering Frieza, or Frieza having been defeated through alternative means. The only significance of this is since Slug's stronger than Frieza but like you said, it's not known which form.
Though the closest chapter released 3 months prior would be the chapter where Final Form Frieza appears which is interestingly has it's title reference that it was essentially about a "Super Saiyan" fighting a Super Frieza which is very similar to the concept of a "Super Saiyan" fighting a Super Namekian. Of course SSJ and 100% (whether you count it as an extension of Final Form Frieza or a separate form)
How Lord is Strong Slug?
False SSJ from Lord Slug = SSJ. Toei just didn't know how to make it look cause it was before Goku went SSJ in the manga/anime. The movie also states Lord Slug>Frieza. People write that off by saying it's a weaker form of Frieza he's superior to. But Goku needed kk x100 to beat Lord Slug and a spirit bomb.
Bro is back with peak🔥
Great video!
I think Goku and Krillin didn't fly at their mach speed because they wanted to hit the meteor without wasting too much energy. While in the previous movie they went all out to stop Dr. W. Even if we don't want to scale the previous movies.
Regarding the Frieza thing, I think it doesn't really matter. Most the Frieza statements are by characters who never saw Frieza being serious or have yet to see. Like King Kai in that continuaty only knows about first form Frieza's power as we have seen in the show and manga, he was always astonished how much stronger Frieza became each time he survived or transformed.
I always assumed that Gigantification gives the users physical strength in exchange for speed and other things. Like an Oozaru (even without the 10 times boost) would probably perform better than Piccolo who increases his size. Changing ones size only matters depending on how the character fights or uses it in fights, like in OG Dragon Ball, Goku's small size often was an advantage to avoid enemy hits and bigger enemies are easier targets. From my view point, Piccolo is not as experienced in fighting with his larger size unlike Slug who showed more creativity with what he is given making most out of Namekian abilities. Piccolo seems to focus on patching up weaknesses and fights more like an earthling, relying rarely on Namekian traits like expanding his arms and size manipulation.
I am sad that Goku's false Super Saiyan never appeared in a game so far. Such a shame it get referred so often.
Does anyone have Lord slug as their favorite dragon ball villain/character?
Yuh
I want him to return if only so I can see more of the cool uniforms his soldiers had, Goku or someone else like Goten or Pan take that unique Super Saiyan Form Goku had which would make it viablr for the games and maybe it could be used as a comparison between both Piccolo's Development and Slugs)
I am so grateful for this video it explains so much to me right off the bat I was always questioning the tree of Life movie and what time zone did it take place but if he made the movie based off of the multi universe ideal that explains a lot
I never knew about the ki barrier needing to be twice as powerful to hold up, interesting, i wonder how slug would judge how much energy to use. Does anyone know if dbz characters can sense power levels of energy blasts, ive seen every episode and movie except for most of super db heroes but i could have forgotten such a statement if one was made
I thought he was anime canon because he was found at a forest. But the tree of might event simply didn't happen.
For my sake I usually put Slug above Frieza’s 1st form since most of the universe did not know Frieza could transform with only a select few knowing about it. Thus most of the universe would be referring to Frieza’s 530K power level. Thus I’ll say Slug is stronger than 1st from Frieza but gets clapped by 2nd form Frieza. As for giant form if we go by that 10x statement then that’ll put him above 1-3rd form Frieza but most likely gets stomped out by a final form Frieza going at like 10% (12Mill)
I think what piccolo was referring to was he receives a size buff. Because obviously the bigger you are the heavier you hit. But he doesn't necessarily receive a power boost. Like the great ape form. But calling it a bluff is crazy. If you don't like using the form that's fine cause of size? Understood
How many times do I have ti teach you this lesson, old man?
What do you mean?
I thought lord slug was cool,like a namakian super saiyan
Technically Slug Is probably more comparable to someone like imperfect or semi perfect Cell considering he took a hit form a KKx100, which is the same multiplier as SSJ2 I believe, though power change is a think hence why I said he might be closer to Imperfect cell, or semi perfect cell instead of Perfect cell
Problem is goku base did not exceed freeza vs goku base at this time
@@supremercommonder Thats why I calced it closer to Imperfect or semi perfect cell, though I suppose we could shoot lower and say 17 or 18
bro come on
Damn, sad how I personally actually enjoyed this Slug and his Film and it seems like he’s close to the weakest character and (in-terms of views) has the least amount of them, even Hirudegarns Dumbass has 3k more views at this current point in time (rn slug would have 7k Views) sad to see at The literal evil Green Bean Giant isn’t a fan favorite.
Oh what are your opinions on Mind Slug snd those extra forms.
Originally Goku was supposed to have black hair in a super Saiyan form play toriyama didn't feel like coloring it in that's why when he was fighting Frieza his hair turned gold along with his energy whenever he is fighting slug his energy turned gold put his hair remained black that's because of that movie a toriyama took the time and coloring in his hair when in the show when he's fighting Frieza he didn't feel like taking the time and that's why when Goku turns super Saiyan his hair turns gold
If Slug ever looked as intimidating as he does in that thumbnail Goku MIGHT actually need the true SSJ form.
The keyword is "might" KKx20 folds this overgrown Namekian like a lawn chair.
What do you use
I shall call it Super Saiyan Blaze
(Looks to the left, Looks to the right)
Howe strong is Towa , Android 21, Julia (Dragon Ball Online Character), and Oceanus Shenron
Dear god the math.
How strong is beat from dragon ball heroes?
The broly of namekians
The Broly of namekians?
Lord slug in my opinion should be atleast stronger than 2nd form frieza
IMO he's at the same level as 50% Frieza.
lol fuck no
@@SINdaBlock411 y did u say the f word ?
@@thelargesmoke4791 because I f---ing felt like it lol
@@SINdaBlock411 anyway after some reconsiderations I think he's at nappa's level
@@thelargesmoke4791 you're all over the place aren't ya lol
roughly on par with 3rd form frieza
Why make how strong is Broly
Slug would be close to Frieza or SSJ1 goku during the namek arc according to thsoe so realistically they WOULD be able to oppose him but it'd be a close fight regardless. And you are mistaken, re-read piccolo's line in the Cell Max movie.
it DOES increase his power but its not a huge increase. Piccolo states that himself. Its just PRIMARILY a bluff not just a bluff.
Wrong bro
*Piccolo* tell (Gohan)
(You're pretty much his size now. Do you think you can beat him now?)
*wishful thinking*
*Making my body bigger didn't make me any stronger*
*it's basically a bluff*
This is from 1 hour and 20 minute mark of the movie
Giant form doesn't make you stronger just bigger
@@Boostergold03 Not, true, piccolo says he doesn't seem "MUCH" Stronger
That means there is a power increase but its relatively small.
He says that while recalling using it vs Goku in OG DB.
Meaning both times he had a power increase relative to what he was without that form.
What he means by your statement is that it wasn't significantly stronger (just technically stronger)
it wasn't something that would of been a outcome changing power up.
@@patg108 bruh I just watch the movie and that is what is stated word for word. Go back and watch the movie
@@Boostergold03 you can't read then because it CLEARLY states there IS some increase
@@patg108At 1:20:12 Gohan says- Hey Piccolo, You're pretty much his size now.
At 1:20:15 Gohan says- Do you think you're strong enough to beat him like this?
At 1:20:17 Piccolo says- wishful thinking.
At 1:20:18 Gohan says- huh
At 1:20:19 Piccolo says- making my body bigger didn't make me any stronger
At 1:20:22 Piccolo says- it's basically a bluff.
This is time stamp and word for word.
Slug and Piccolo should have fused
Give us nova shenron
Orange slug
Lame movie
currently? piccolo is the most powerful namekian ever
just for everyone, i never once ever called goku son goku. who fucking cares his family name. goku isnt his last name. always sounds like son as in child. theres nothing bad ass about calling someone son