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Bravo!! This vid and MSLB's should be required reading.

Oh! Im really glad i found this channel. Greta video!

Area denial , staying to post a threat to the enemy and torp that reload slowest among all ammunition type meand dd doing their role and duty not only had to put in a good show of skill and placing the boat right into enemies ' kill zone But what does the game treat all these , nothing .. dd players are asked and tasked to do all but not only not rewarded and acknowledged its also a very significant opportunity cost attached when the time and effort can be used for farming , sorry that is the fact , farming reward and doing the team work do not .. why bb won't forward tanking , and cruiser won't forward support .. And many dd players are finding they are left hanging dry alone at the front These days as a dd main my take is simple if the team are not forward to fight and support then neither will I , am not just fire bait so they can farm and not fight it No amount of argument can excuse todays meta of big guns just do not team and do not support , as a dd main am sick of all these saying that I had to go forward do this , do that , NO won't be putting myself into harm's way if the team will not - simple as that

Not a DD main, I'm too impulsive for that. Seeing a sub, I'm like an enraged dog and fire automatically when I shouldn't... Cassard has the same stealth than a Z52, I guess it would work nice alongside a Z52 in a division.

Let’s just fire these torps for fun Listen I can see you don’t play DD solo very often You need to practice at it It has a lot of responsibility for one little ship And it takes a lot of skill to play well solo Especially in todays meta

i like the sherman the most out of these ofcors hes a gunboat i dont think about its torps. its shell arc and 15km range i feel safe from CL and bb and farm them. 2nd is marceau. If it wasnt of its shell arc i would pick it to be #1 for me.

Your positioning is terrible Not once have you used your surroundings to protect yourself and use your assets Cumon you e hit to win a gave at least Your all yourself Look at the map And the most important asset to you and your ship is that Have a safe plan of attack and win position Try that

This is bloody hilarious One mistake after another I should’ve turned in and not out I should be used RPF I should’ve known he was gony pull forward I should’ve known that guy would let me down I’ve played with him before So funny 😂😂😂😂 Right “cumon” You must win a game

Yesterday, as I was grinding my second PanEuropean DD branch on the Grom, one friend had some div games with me in his Z39. None of us are DD mains, we are not the best DD players, yet we worked together and were efficient enough to get only victories. If you intent to div in DDs, make sure you have two complementary DDs, one with a big smoke or big torps and the other gunboat with useful consummables such as radar or hydro. None of us had very good torps but his hydro helped me a lot. Laying smoke in turns can help you stay invisible or cover your friend while you spot for him and vice versa. You can do the same with a DD and a cruiser. The cruiser will radar enemy threats for you so you can avoid them or help the team get rid of the threat. Unexperienced DD players should learn by divisioning with other players with complementary sets of skills/ships/consummables. Work as a team to be less afraid. Near the end of the game, when enemy ships are less nummerous, you can split up depending on what remains to be done. Yesterday, I split up with my friend because I was in the middle cap nearest to our CV who was being chased down by one of the remaining enemy DDs. I sped boosted up to catch up to him and once I began firing, the enemy DD stoped focusing on our nearly dead CV to deal with me ! The CV survived and he actually saved the game by sinking the last enemy DD that was too far away for me to handle. I remember one of my first games in Le Terrible. There were too many ships for me to reveal myself so I stayed alive by not firing my guns nearly for the whole game, and spotting the enemy for my team (one DD per team in that game, in those game, don't fire anything unless you are forced to and survive the longest possible).

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The gameplay with Marceau is an example of how shit the ship is. Yes, if you're against a bad player, you'll kill him quickly, if you're against someone with a little brain, you'll be dead :D Maybe it's just me, but Marceau is DD, which is probably the least enjoyable for me to play, big spot, stupid arcs. I just hate that thing so much :-)

Your certainly learning a lot through these videos your showing the community I thought you would already have learnt those things playing in tier 10 ships Maybe the new learning you’ve experienced in your video try to implicate it in your game play Let’s see if you can win one

WTF!! You showed nothing about what the ship can do or is good for You just say on a flank doing pretty much nothing So What’s the point You basically showed a loss

love your info, hope i can make it work, and i'll try and partner with DDs when i can.

i dont remember signing any contract that says we have to do what a contributor says...if you lot want ppl to do what you want, just tell WeeGee to increase division size to 12 so that you can put all your employees in the team and play

yes a DD with long km torps is great. it helps ! but most of my owned ships are V or VI and i just dropped 3 that only had 4.5 km torps! now i have to build up my resorces to buy a decent DD in a higher class VI or VII , which as i looked earlier aint many that have torps longer than their detectability. also i find when i play DD that its difficult to get big ships to cover me as i try to sight in the opponents and usually i end up fighting one or two destroyers or a mix of ships by myself with no help. I have learned to wait for my supports and let the opponents take the cap first, and make sure i have helpers! which is problimatical once we see what we are up against when the other team sees we arent pushing immediately! yesterday i crawled to the closest cap and when i looked up as i was fighting the opponents DD i saw 5 red ships against me and 3 greens running away - meaning i was dead!

Been thinking of the Khab as my next coal ship because you make it look like so much fun. Now if I could just play as well as you.....

As usual a very good video I dont understand the numbers on the rpf it sounds stupid but Iam only guessing while playing with the Vampire 2 great ship btw but hard to get myhead around the crawling smoke , plz help

I'll make the same comment here as I did on SLM's video. Regarding gunboat DDs- consider eschewing the deep stealth game that seems to be expected on DDs and pick up Torpedo Lookout System and Radio Direction Finding instead of Concealment System Mod 1 and Concealment Expert. You become a much more versatile asset to your team when you can screen torpedoes and get a bearing on where the sneaky guys are trying to flank your big friends. Destroyers are the most flexible class in the game and it is essential to be able to shift from one role to another as situations dictate.

I finally found a DD main content creator, I’ve gotten back into the game after some time and want to get back on my DD grind.

Love it ! Enjoyed every second ! Thx for the work you put in to it ! Its appreciated.

About your playstyle...If in ranked Arms Race with two DD per side (I'm in a Kitakaze my only T-9 DD), would you still help your fellow DD or try to snag a buff solo? I'm finding cruiser radar and hydro to be challenging.

Jager feels pretty comfortable because it has 3 torp launches instead of 2. The guns and AA are horrible compared to halland, but for a pure torp boat, Jager is fun.

3:22 "Jager, you don't get heals" Me in port looking at the 3 heals in my Jager 😂 Also, Torp Reload can actually go low as 45-30secs with FULL BUILD + Unique Cmdr. I have neither and my reload is 65 secs. * FULL conceal of 5.4km is the main gimmick*

great example of how people dont know what they dont know. your radio detection told you what you should be doing and you did it beautifully. people need to understand that their may be information that other ships have that influence the decisions that captain makes.

Did you notice how enemy CV player had a (retarded) hyper-focus on you? While you where in smoke he spotted the Shima but choosed to blind drop you. Madness!

you got it the cruisers and BB just do not support their own team's DD but keep asking them to do all the dangerous front line duties , but unfortunately its not just the BB and Cruisers , often the team's other DD , the CV and the SS are not providing any support but yet still demand the DD doing all the work

I used a Z-44 in Clan Battles when it was T9, and she actually worked out very well. Sherman, I've had way more Torp hits than I ever imagined. And you really have to play it at Cruiser ranges, so it's better to get your range extended. 180,000 dmg in my first game.

You don't exactly talk about it, but I can see you're constantly running the OODA loop and reacting accordingly. As a DD gun main, love the content and your observations on the current state of the game. Keep up the great work!!!

It's not the number of turrets or barrels, it's how fast they fire. For proof, look no further than Forrest Sherman.

Yes, TH-cam For Peasants lets us fast-forward and skip to time markers. 😄

Jaeger is a very capable pure torpedo boat. If it meets Halland in a dark alley, yeah that's going to end only one way, but for what it does, Jaeger is a lot of fun. Never fails to leave a grin on my face.

hi Ripper Ive learned a lot about destroyers and how to play due to you. I now play them almost exclusively currently using fletcher and just bought Marceau. Since watching your videos I live longer and my score has increased significantly. Love your videos and insights. Thanks from UK.

Oh hey no comments yet, allow me to be the first- been meaning to save up my coal for the Alvaro de Bazan, just because i like Spanish stuff.

The Jinan behind and sub next to you might have something to do with them not pushing as well buddy...But yeah, most BB - monkeys start running the moment their DD dies. Modern BBs are immune to fire, have no citadel, ignore cruiser armor, some even have radar and yet, they are still crying about their class being weak. Most BB mains are just incompetent.

An opinion is not proof. In both those matches your team lost DDs too, the first one was just a blowout nothing to see there, the second the reds where mostly piled in the middle of the map being shot at from both sides. Terrible play in both games by the reds, these are not examples of good destroyer play winning the day. With that said I don't disagree about the importance of a DDs role. When you look at the stats on ships that have the highest WR it's dominated by DDs and cruisers. There are some CVs in that list too, but that will soon change when CVs lose most of their spotting, putting even more responsibility on DDs to stay alive to do so. So statically, yes, DDs have a huge effect on the outcome of a match. Cruisers also can have a huge impact on WR, and BBs dominate in the highest average damage category. Looks like all ships have their roles to play.

What exactly is your "full reload build" on the gearing ? I'm interested in picking it up, and I can't find similar builds that don't throw away RPF, which is crucial in my opinion.

Thanks for the showcase. I desperately wanted the guns to work, but alas it's a trap. Best to use boost and kite away shooting when spotted.

What mini map mod shows enemy radar circles???

If you're playing a DD passively with a 5.5-7 detectability you are playing it wrong !

useless dd line feel like jack of all trades masters to none even worst of gearing

This video shows why CVs are a problem. A good CV player could punish you 7 days a week and you couldnt do anything against him

that's why WG encourage you to play with a division to have a better game experience but the ironic is it's also proved that having fun from a solo game is almost impossible!!

Spot and cap. If a dd does nothing else, it needs to spot and cap. Damaging and sinking ships is secondary. The basic design of the game at its core requires that the dds spot and cap, they have the smallest detection circle for that reason.

I think it will help if WG made a score counter for base xp and had less focus on damage done. New player learn to shoot BB to get the high number on damage done. Win or loose they brag about having done 150K. Too many chase doing damage and not winning the game. We see DDs hiding behind islands to shot at a BB. They see the damage tick in while ignoring spotting, capping or hunting DDs. BBs learn that shooting a DD or a CL will bring you overpens but little damage. Doing 5K damage to a DD helps the team more than 10K at a BB most of the time. I would like a score that also reflects points from spotting damage, cap points and more stuff that helps win a game. (perhaps spotting torps).

it's less about the DDs being an issue and more about the cruisers and battleships that immediately run the second they get spotted or immediately run for islands and cut themselves off from having any kind of angles to actually support the DDs and also as soon as cruisers and battleships get spotted on the enemy side YOUR cruisers and battleships will either be in kite mode or shooting at those instead of paying attention to YOU and supporting you... so yea... it's MORE an issue of cruisers and battleships imo just not paying attention at the early stage of the game, not going to say there aren't utterly stupid DDs that don't understand simple mechanics or understand what ships carry radar or how to evade/dodge while spotted... i've survived bow tanking and speed juking in a Tromp and that thing is slower than dogshit with regards to engine power and picking up speed in either direction BUT i did also have a good cruiser and battleship supporting that hammered the hell out of Moskva trying to push in. you're only responsible for yourself because you have no control over the other 11 idiots on your team! pay attention to your surroundings and just do your job to the best of your ability because MM is just f**ked some days and i've had wins i've pulled out of my ass and losses that were just impossible to turn around because the team just was that stupid with zero situational awareness... nothing you can do about the players on your team sadly... div up and work together!

I love taking out my max dpm/maneuverability colbert to support DDs... 10 seconds of a stream of fire and any DD is dead or crippled. Also really good against minos.

Great video. To your point, I am a BB main. I only play PvE now. I want to play PvP, but got tired of getting HE spammed from behind islands when I was trying to tank for the cap I am at and getting no support. So I started playing passive in back. Then the chat got toxic cuz you weren't tanking. HE spammed, melted, no support i stick with operations now.

lost me the second you mentioned sealord, to many hot takes looking for views, bad advice, and a douche in game when its not being recorded

How the torps work is, that they deal damage based of distance travelled. This is different from where they were launched. If a ship sails away from you, the torps travel longer distance before they hit the target and deal less damage. If a ship comes toward you, the torps travel a shorter distance. So for example, if you are at 10 km from the target and launch the torps and the ship sails toward you, the torps hit when the target is 8km from where the torps were launched, they deal 100% damage. On max travel distance the torps deal 40% of their max damage, so they are basically like Halland torps at max range. Not too impressive, but also not bad, because Cassard torps have a 417% flooding chance, where the Halland torps have only 173%. Reaction time is identical between Halland and Cassard.