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Hey bro there is one archer set which is better in my opinion maybe you can do the math and test it against the best on your list. For me best archer setup is: Kvk weapon + helm Non set chest + hand Leadership boots + pants Armaments you go all 4 pieces for all damage instead of health, use ottoman as civ and 15% archer health city skin

29:07 - Very cool info. All damage and health compete with each other for the 3rd slot roll on armaments. The max roll for all damage is 2% and the max roll for health is 3.5%. So it's easy to calculate for this march that 1.8% all damage = 3.5% health, so a 1.9 or 2.0 roll is superior to a max health roll in terms of "Combat Effectiveness". Curious what the conditions are for "Combat Effectiveness". Like is it a duel situation, where you are dealing basic attacks, counter attacks, and casting skills on 1 target? Or a field situation where you are not dealing counter attacks and your skills are hitting max targets? I imagine Health would be better in situations where you are dealing counter attacks, since basic attacks generate 86 rage and counter attacks only generate 16. You are taking 100% more white damage but only generating an extra 15-16% rage toward your skill cycle. It seems like attack might be undervalued if the "Combat Effectiveness" calculation doesn't account for the effects of rage generation and increased damage from faster skill cycles, since horn is a common accessory and Rejuvenate/ Feral Nature are common talents, and your AOE skills are a large portion of your total damage output. The thing that interests me the most here is that 1% all damage = 3% attack for this march. So if you opt for 2% all damage instead of health, it's the same as adding an extra 6% attack onto that armament - in addition to the attack stat rolled in the first slot. All damage and attack scale multiplicatively with each other in the combat formula, so I wonder how attack focused gear with attack and all damage focused armaments would perform. Like a 2 piece KvK & 4 piece inf set rather than the traditional 4 piece set with Hope Cloak and Eternal Night.

can’t believe I’m still taking online math class years after graduation 😂

Puedes hacer un Video de las Mejores Inscripciones para Armamentos?? He visto muchas dudas de ''Destruccion'' (Formacion en Arco), No es la mejor opcion

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There is nothing to discuss and study here. The ring on the KVK map is the worst accessory. Damage is cumulative. On the KVK map it is 40%, 10% from weapons and 50% from the ring = 100%. Example: on the KVK map you have 10,000 red base, damage from the KVK map gives 40% and 10% is given by weapons, now you have 15,000 red. Add a ring and you have 20,000 red, not 22,500 as you would like. Horn + Drum is the best solution. Figured it out, on the KVK map you have 50% damage, 40% is given by the card, 3% is given by the prekvk buff, 7-10% are given by weapons. You buff 3 of your squads. There are commanders who have high damage with a skill. With drums they will hit at 5-6 seconds. I want to deal 2700 with a skill to three targets every 5 seconds, why would I use a useless ring that casts at 9 seconds? Liu Che has a Bruiser, 100 rage consumption. With the ring and the Bruiser, Liu Che casts at 12 seconds. Lol. The ring has been trash for the last three years. You have a Hunter on each squad with a 5-second cooldown (we get to it quickly with Horn + Drum), there is a Balance that works at 80% rage (we get to it quickly with Horn + Drum). Several squads have Unstoppable and Dashing, which increase the base damage of the skill. For example, 5% Hunter, 5% Unstoppable and 10% Dashing. You had 2700 as a base skill, and now 3240, to which all skill damage buffs will be added. There is a tier 5 helmet, which has a 5-second cooldown (we get to it quickly). Using Horn + Drum, you quickly get to hitting skills that are enhanced by your talents. Lots of rage - change the commanders' talents a little. In 2025, only clowns will make a ring. 27 billion CP, 7 Horn + drums with talents, 1960. Exchanges 1 to 5 after KVK. The ring buffs air, the drum buffs a squad + 2 squads nearby. A drum with a talent is better than a tier 2 set.

I was the one who found out about Liu 86 rage in expertise about 10 months ago, and i suggested to not use the horn on Liu. But what i meant with that isn't that horn isn't good, but that you should rather get horns on other marches first. So from all marches Liu has last priority in getting a horn :)

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Really good video. Much better than most 101 guides, which forget that a lot of people start with low/zero crystals. Priorities first! GG! Subscribed.

It's a pity that this video wasn't created a few days earlier, because I just crafted ring no. 3. What you say really makes sense to me and I will definitely try it in time

For the archers 2-2-2 set is it more logical to craft boots and chest from the dragon's breath set or chest and gloves? I think attack will lose a lot of value for archers because of healing damage doesnt benefit from the attack.

Dude's a mad scientist

Y cual seria la mejor opcion para WW+LC?

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can you explain why huo can achieve 1000 rage in just 4 second?

I am running wallace/Liuche , should I go for ring + horn too?

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Great work

So if I run 4 or 5 drums on 5 marches is that better than 4 or 5 horns?

The urgent question is that the drum makes 2 people angry, are the 2 people our troops or the allied troops?

Hey man I suck at murderball fighting. Like I really suck from my point of view. Do u have a noob guide or can u make a field fighting video? I need to get better and I dont think it has anything to do with commanders or equipment. I dont know how to fight properly. Im a native kvk3 player (first time fighting) fighting against another imperium kd. Im getting blown out. I also agree with your take on rage. Rage is fkn everything and I am getting eaten alive in ruins! Help bro!

good, people are finally catching on

Wonder if its an overkill over raging with both Horn and War Drums at the same time for all marches?

Great video, especially relevant when you have all these commanders that reduce rage.

Beenn enjoying your content i gained alot of knowledge 🙌

the question i was waiting to be answered is this 7 horns/ring vs 6 drums/ring and 1 {dagger/wep/or the attack buff accessory ] against each other what will perform better. the way i understod it is drum will gives u the space to open 2 spot of accessory for a march that eather dosent do much damge or dosent need much rage but what making me not totally convinced is that a 15-19 health deff redction or the attack buff can make up the potentially lost rage .. hard to say hard to test

What about talented drums and horns, it is worth it? Thank for the video it was very nice

IMO drums are a fine accessory to make 1 of because you can easily lvl 5 awaken it from the egg event and it's very good on combo commanders like Liu or Arthur, but i would never go all in. I certainly wouldnt consider making more than that till you have crit horns on all your marches and let's be real, no one does. PS: the damage increase % maths you did was comparing horn+drums vs just ring, which isn't the right compare. need to compare horn+drums vs horn+ring, which is still higher.

As an engineer... chat gpt is ok for many things... But it is completely useless in math😅 it is more a meme of how bad he is than anything It explain the theory fine. It can usually find the equations to use... but he fails over 75% of the time when it comes to using the equation

Keep up the great work sir!

Great info! And good choice going Horn + Drum on your field marches. I think Horn + Ring is only better if you plan to swarm flags, or on your Joan march - since she casts 3 skills per cycle often and benefits from a 100+ rage Rejuvenate each time. Love how horn + drum doesn't have many "wasted" procs like ring when fighting back & forth on the field. When fighting back & forth, you're only connected for 1-2 seconds at a time - and moving around the rest of the time. If ring procs on one of the 1-2 turns you're connected, the all damage buff isn't active until the following 2 turns when you're probably moving, so it very rarely overlaps with your active skills - unless you're tanking or chasing. Drum is great for back and forth fighting. Lets you fire your first skill sooner every time your rage resets, and then just lets you stack up rage to fire your skills sooner. If you have a march that is almost full rage but walking back and forth, another march can boost it to full with drum, and it will fire its skill when it reengages - rather than just punching for white damage and walking back.

I think people have misunderstood the Butterfly inscription. It only applies on the turns the commander does combo attacks. In that sense, it would be better on a Liu Che than on Arthur in my estimation. I hope you will cover more into this in future videos. Thanks

I'd rather "over rage" and cast my skill faster (in the first cycle) than the other guy because by the time his skill has been cast, his troops will be lower, hence the damage the skill does will be lower. In a murder ball scenario, one is going back and forth all the time, avoiding the surround mechanics from straying a march and building up rage at the same time.. to cast skill. simulations don't take that into account IMO.

I'll do it.

In this video, I am exploring the idea of using both Horn+Drums. Not suggesting to use Drums instead of Horns because Horn is gonna be better anyways. Just pinning this comment just in case.

Thank you for the in-depth look at the drums. Most players probably do not know that a former TH-camr by the name of Drogothein covered this topic appropriately 3-4 years ago using a binomial algebra calculator. He got the idea to do the video because many of the top Ark teams were using the drums. Two things happened from that video: first many believed the math and built drums but, secondly, most players mocked the math results and poo poo'd the idea in favor of the horn. To this day, many folks refuse to consider the idea of using drums. Personally, I use both, but I use them for different things.... Thx for the video. ❤

What about drums on Arthur primary with Butterfly inscription?

Great video! Opening pandoras box I like it🤣 Could you do the rage math on x3 butterfly Inscription affects 3 combo marches with horn + drum. If you have use x3 Arthur as enabler

Very interesting Video. ❤ However at the beginn, it would have been nice to also include Liu plus Horn not only the Drum to make it look more appealing. Also something everyone needs to consider is that these perfect mathematical instances are not given at all in a ball fight. There is various variables which in this case are not included. William, Joan, Trajan.. just to name a few rage buffing commanders you will find on the field and those aren't even rare to come by. If you would have included those commanders you would have realised a shift towards the Ring again. + When using only drums you need to talk about what happens with the rage cycles once one drum march disappeares because it dies. You gotta get humbled. Overall great Video. Would recommend

Hi: if I run 4 marches of ranged army, what do you think of horn and drum? (almost better than horn and ring?) Say, I get horn and ring for Gaja/Cordove; then, the other 3 marches have horn + drum. Then, don't I get the max rage for gaja? thx. (gaja gets 14.5 rage per second from his own horn. Then, he gets another 12 x 3 = 36 rage per second from the 3 drums). Isn't that best? thx.

will author proc drum fast the way LC get rage fast?

good brother, first thanks for the videos, but the question is whether it activates horn and drum at the same time since the limit of fury is 220 it seems to me, it will not be better ring and horn in all marches? greetings and I follow you.

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My question is: can two march with drum each, give each other rage for a total of 100 in one turn, can 3 drum stack? That's the question

Considering if you are using huo/arthur with ring and horn, since huo has a lower rage requirment is it better to go all in on skill tree or cav tree for open field?

Hey :) Is the rare crazed armament inscription good? Is it worth it to fire off skills faster or is it just useless? Don't know if there is a place for this because of the rage cap? Maybe you can answer me this question with your calculations ;)