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Thank you for visiting the channel! We're Eva and Slav, creators of granvisio (great vision), a holistic landscape design consultancy with a focus on sustainability and biodiversity.
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On this channel you will learn permaculture principles and practices allowing you to transform your outdoor space into an abundant oasis. We'd love you to get inspired and learn how to apply these principles in your own life quickly and efficiently!
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Syntropic Farming vs Permaculture
Today I am comparing syntropic farming and permaculture.
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⏰ Timecodes ⏰
0:00 Intro
0:28 What is Permaculture?
1:03 What is Syntropic Farming?
1:49 What Syntropic Agroforestry and Permaculture have in common?
2:37 Differences between Syntropic Agriculture and Permaculture
4:35 Who can apply Syntropic Farming vs Permaculture
5:07 Permaculture Food Forest
6:49 Syntropic Agriculture Food Forest
8:08 Who should choose Permaculture?
8:47 Who should choose Syntropic Farming?
9:34 Advice if you want to apply Syntropic Farming in Temperate or Arid climates.
Referenced videos:
Food Forest Chop and Drop
➡️ th-cam.com/video/UKHRjAEgjHM/w-d-xo.html
Keyline Design
➡️ th-cam.com/video/xhLh81QdYZs/w-d-xo.html
Permaculture Backyard Kitchen Garden
➡️ th-cam.com/video/_o-ekivajw4/w-d-xo.html
Australian Syntropic Farm
➡️ th-cam.com/video/x2G7hYSfzk4/w-d-xo.html
Pruning in Syntropic Agroforestry
➡️ th-cam.com/video/ixh-fvMZarA/w-d-xo.html
Useful Resources:
Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands and Beyond by Brad Lancaster:
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➡️amzn.to/3MlPKjH
Introduction to Permaculture by Bill Mollison
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#SyntropicFarming #Permaculture #SustainableAgriculture #FoodForest #SyntropicAgriculture #SyntropicFarmingVsPermaculture #PermacultureDesign #SustainableLiving #EcologicalFarming #AgricultureTechniques
⭐➡️join.granvisio.com/ Join our membership program to support our mission and unlock a wealth of benefits while learning permaculture in a structured and organized way.
🌳For information about our Permaculture Design Services, visit:
➡️granvisio.com/permaculture-designs
📅To book a Permaculture Consultation, visit:
➡️www.granvisio.com/permaculture-consultations
📩 Contact us: For collaborations or inquiries, email us at eva@granvisio.com
⏰ Timecodes ⏰
0:00 Intro
0:28 What is Permaculture?
1:03 What is Syntropic Farming?
1:49 What Syntropic Agroforestry and Permaculture have in common?
2:37 Differences between Syntropic Agriculture and Permaculture
4:35 Who can apply Syntropic Farming vs Permaculture
5:07 Permaculture Food Forest
6:49 Syntropic Agriculture Food Forest
8:08 Who should choose Permaculture?
8:47 Who should choose Syntropic Farming?
9:34 Advice if you want to apply Syntropic Farming in Temperate or Arid climates.
Referenced videos:
Food Forest Chop and Drop
➡️ th-cam.com/video/UKHRjAEgjHM/w-d-xo.html
Keyline Design
➡️ th-cam.com/video/xhLh81QdYZs/w-d-xo.html
Permaculture Backyard Kitchen Garden
➡️ th-cam.com/video/_o-ekivajw4/w-d-xo.html
Australian Syntropic Farm
➡️ th-cam.com/video/x2G7hYSfzk4/w-d-xo.html
Pruning in Syntropic Agroforestry
➡️ th-cam.com/video/ixh-fvMZarA/w-d-xo.html
Useful Resources:
Rainwater Harvesting for Drylands and Beyond by Brad Lancaster:
➡️amzn.to/47dHEBw
➡️amzn.to/3MlPKjH
Introduction to Permaculture by Bill Mollison
➡️amzn.to/3G6LdxJ
#SyntropicFarming #Permaculture #SustainableAgriculture #FoodForest #SyntropicAgriculture #SyntropicFarmingVsPermaculture #PermacultureDesign #SustainableLiving #EcologicalFarming #AgricultureTechniques
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I ❤ Plant Guilds
Permaculture can integrate syntropic practices, as both share the vision of working with nature rather than against it. Permaculture incorporates various techniques and methodologies, including syntropic agriculture, to design sustainable and regenerative systems. The main difference is that permaculture is more comprehensive, applying to all aspects of sustainable living, while syntropic agriculture focuses specifically on regenerative agricultural production.
Great video, I deeply thank you! Nevertheless, the content is a bit skeptical on syntropic agriculture to other climates. And it oversimplifies Syntropic Agriculture benefits, because it actually creates a forest ecosystem with all its abundance. th-cam.com/video/YBPLrr9Hph0/w-d-xo.html The video above shows it in New Zealand, far from tropical and subtropical climates (they combine with permaculture). The 17 year forest even looks like a tropical one, visually. "nature wants to become a forest", says the girl. I saw a presentation from Felipe Vilela in 2018, who was doing in many places around the world. This was actually filmed (one can put legend translation in You Tube, original in Portuguese): th-cam.com/video/wjkQrYewbho/w-d-xo.html. Lastly, a friend of mine has one agroforestry on the grounds of his house (in Brasília). He doesn't even have a hose to water his agriforest, just with a watering can he pass the very prolonged dry season (this year with 164 consecutive days without any rain).
What are pioneer trees? And in your situation in central italy, what tree or cover crop did you plant immediately?
Its not "VS" ...syntropic is a tool in the permaculture toolbox to be applied depending on weather, soils, property, wishes etc, etc, etc ...
By the fact that syntropic produces more plant matter that needs constant pruning is telling you it can provide more soil and animal and human food ..
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yes, you can't say 'I'm working to support biodiversity' when all you're doing is growing an organic vegetable garden, or a food forest or a syntropic system, with the plants in your system being from a distant part of the world. This ignores that the majority of insects are host specific. That is they are evolved to only be able to protect themselves against the metabolites of one plant species or genus and therefore only able to eat that plant and thrive. Why only one... because of the high cost of this type of evolution. So this relationship is quite logically with a native plant, as an insect cannot co evolve with an exotic plant over thousands of years when most of the plant movement took place in the last 300 years. The generalist insects which can benefit from a wide range of plant groups are in a minority....and please don't say you're protecting biodiversity because you're supporting honeybees. That is only one species in each region. Thousands of honeybees is not 'biodiversity'. It is a misunderstanding of the term biodiversity, mistaking quantity for diversity.
So good and helpful! thank you!! FYI comfrey is not nitrogen fixing. but it is great for mulch
Yes! Good point! Thank you for the comment!
can you help me plan my farm?
Hi Richard! Please send me your enquiry to my email and we'll set up a free exploration call: eva@granvisio.com
Do you have any experience adding hydrogel to soils to improve water retention?
No and I believe hydrogel is discouraged on a permaculture farm due to its synthetic nature - polymers (often petroleum-based), which don’t naturally break down in the soil and can leave microplastic residues. Instead use seaweed powder which in contact with water create natural gel that extend moisture in the soil. Hope this helps!
@@granvisio I'll check that out. About the synthetics....a new class of hydrogels were invented in 2008 and they are "bio-hydrogels". They are biodegradable, some of them are derived from wood, so when they break down--they turn into humus. I was hoping you would you have some suggestions on how to use it strategically. A 55 pound bag of hydrogel powder ($250) is enough to create 1,700 gallons of hydrogel. I was considering creating massive pits 12 feet x 12 feet deep like Geoff does and filling them with gel then covering them back up. We're located in one of the driest deserts in the U.S. and we're trying to create a forest in 400 acres of a parking-lot style climate. There's barely any native vegetation.
@@Anythingforfreedom Thanks for sharing the info. I honestly haven't heard of this and can't provide any advice, but it looks like you're on a good track as long as you carefully check the source of bio hydrogel. I hope you can share your results on the Internet. If you decide to do so please share here where we can find details about your work. I wish you all the best with this ambitious project.
@@granvisio This is for the youtube channel "Sean Overton / Dustups".
@@Anythingforfreedom Wow!!! Subscribed!
There is no "Versus". The two dimensions are not competitors. Permaculture is inclusive of any techniques that optimize systems, including syntropic agriculture.
Bullshit
The best garden is an ecological garden. Choose native plants as much as possible in order to attract native insects. Copy nature itself. The result will amaze you!
Thank you so much for what you do
Thank you for leaving the lovely comment!
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Permaculture is an umbrella term that agroforestry systems like syntropic could fall under. There is not just one permaculture system. It can be done in various ways depending on your situation.
what software are you using? I need to design my land and I cant find any good software
Google Earth Pro Desktop is my number 1 tool because I can measure everything on the land. Once I have measurements I can screenshot the satellite map from Google Earth and use it in other software to draw the design features. I recommend Canva - because it is the easiest to use.
How do you filter flouride out of well water? My well water is very high in flouride and I'm worried it will damage the plants.
You can use bone char but it requires regular maintenance. You can position the filter between the well pump and your irrigation system. This way, all water used for irrigation will pass through the filter first, ensuring that fluoride is reduced before reaching your plants. Bone char filters require periodic replacement as they become saturated with fluoride and lose their effectiveness.
You explain concepts and principles so well, providing practical examples to help with learning. Thank you so much for sharing your videos.
Thank you so much for leaving the lovely comment!
Good but understood nothing 😅😅😅😅
Just subscribed. Very helpfull. Am in this process. Shaping up my land. Foodforest .
Glad it was useful! Good luck with your project!
the very first slide, the apple guild is horrendously flawed, walnuts shouldnt be anywhere near apple trees as they alellopathically kill them with juggalone.
Great video! Thanks for such a comprehensive look into swales.
Glad it was helpful!
I eat swales for breakfast
All's swale that ends swale
Lawson reckons you put syntropic technique under permaculture umbrella where needed
Let's design new mini walkable towns entirely with Permaculture techniques
Yes! that would be a dream! Thanks for leaving the comment!
Do you know of a hibiscus that is hardy and edible? Thank you for a very great video :)
Only the Roselle variety but it is suitable to hardiness zones 8-11.
That drone footage of the farm at 8:15 is breathtaking! It really shows how beautiful modern farming can be
May I ask if you have a recommendation for software for permaculture design for someone who is not very tech savvy?
Start with Google Earth Pro Desktop which is free as you can measure everything on your land with ease and plan different features. You can draw basic geometric figures there too. Once you've got all the measurements you can take the satellite image from Google Earth and edit it in other software like Canva or GIMP to draw more complicated shapes. I hope this helps!
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If you want to understand how to use swales properly, you need to go back to the original creator of the concept called the Keyline System by PA Yeoman and outline in his book- 'Water for Every Farm'. It is a comprehensive system of water management on a farm.
Syntropic agriculture is a technique, whereas permaculture is a wholistic system that can incorporate many techniques to suit the specific local conditions of climate and micro-climate, soil conditions, topography, water cycles and waterways, and also integrating human settlements into the landscape.
lol these permaculture definitions make it sound like a government - ism . silly . how humans behave among one another doesn't really have anything to do with methods of cultivating plants, but ok whatever. i see what various people mean by stating our language needs to evolve...maybe go back to greek where we can coin our own terms again.
Great video lady. I'm also in a mediterranean-type climate and it is grweat to see a fellow Permie clear up some of the misconceptions. Loved it.
Thank you so much for the lovely comment! Where are you based?
Did you really just study Agroforestry on the internet 😮 I am impressed you did an excellent job in gathering data! do you also speak Portuguese…? Anyway we’ll done
Haha! No! I studied Permaculture on a deep level. Permaculture consists of different agroforestry techniques. I only studied syntropic agriculture very briefly for this specific video. I don't speak Portuguese. Thanks for leaving the comment.
Really informative, thanks so much! One question (from Crete, with possibly a drier climate than yours): we have a field that undulates wildly across the slope due to erosion, like a piece of slanted corrugated iron. How on earth can I find the contour? I've even tried using an online contour creator based on Google Earth, but the result is wildly off on the ground. Any ideas?
Hi there! Sorry for the late reply. Unfortunately online contour creators will not help I'm afraid. They serve only as a general guide and in some cases as you noticed they may be wildly off. You need to verify the contours on your land by using A-frame which is labor intensive or laser if you can invest in it. I could try to find more detailed topographical maps in your area on geoportals and other online databases and provide some solutions if you're interested in a consulting service.
yes to me permaculture is a way of designing syntropic farm systems. Great video!
Thank you for the comment!
Most permaculture I see in my area focuses mainly on plants that don't produce or are good for the region and many have lots of land, money, and nurseries that use slaves that they like to call volunteers.
very intelligent and informative comprison. I think there is a general lack of information on comparing both because of language zones. I think the best and most site approprite of both can be integrated for great results. You make very good points about choosing which to use. My criticism of both is a lack of sufficient concern for invertebrate and avian biodiversity conservation through native planting in the culture of many practitioners. I wish they would both push native plants harder especially as support plants. In my country there is blindness. why plnt invive lupins when we have hundreds of native N fixers as an example. It requires the courage and imagintion to raise natives for these roles and use them in plantings reflecting local ecosystems. its really not that hard. truth to place is also a point made by gotsch that is most often just forgotten. People calling creating a lush forest in a desert syntropic seems to violate this sensibility.
Thank you for leaving the comment! I agree with you, but let me expand a little bit. Permaculture emphasizes using native plants whenever possible. As you indicated, native plants are well-adapted to the local climate, soil, and ecosystem, which makes them more resilient, requiring less maintenance, water, and fertilizer. They are also more resistant to local pests and diseases and support native wildlife, providing food and habitat for insects, birds, and other animals. However, Bill Mollison, the co-founder of permaculture, believed that while native plants are essential, we shouldn't restrict ourselves exclusively to them. He advocated for experimenting with plants from other continents that can thrive in similar climates, especially if they offer unique benefits like food, medicine, or other resources. Mollison saw the potential for building more resilient and productive ecosystems by integrating plants from similar climates, even if they're not native to the area. However, Mollison also stressed careful selection and observation when integrating non-native species. He believed they should be non-invasive and beneficial to the local ecosystem, avoiding species that might disrupt native biodiversity or harm local habitats.
@@granvisio I know I know, and I'm totally in agreement with you. The thing is I've noticed that the founders of many of these ecological horticultural movements emphasize the importance of native plants... but in the realization of these ideals around the world, their followers seem to have a blind spot concerning indigeneity. It is strange. I think both syntropic and permaculture adherents often ignore it. Not all, but distressingly many. This is especially bad where I live and may be different in other areas of the world. Its terribly ironic as we have a flora that is one of the most diverse in the world, second only to the Amazon rain forest, namely the Cape Flora, Cape Floral Kingdom, Fynbos, Renosterveld, Strandveld, Afromontaine forest, marshland and a raft of subtypes. I ask myself why this is so, why the adherents of movements miss so much of this message ? I am left with no other option than to blame the founders for not being clear enough on this issue. Why are permaculturists in my city all building herb spirals and not getting the indigenous part of the message ? In another way I suppose its like trying to compare Christians to Christ himself. They are going to fall short badly as they are just ordinary humans. The thing is when it comes to ecology the dictum should not be 'judge not' but we should rather shout as loudly as possible that natives are absolutely necessary. Personally I lose no opportunity to make a noise about it. Its the only way some people will be woken up, by clanging symbals, trumpets and drums.
@@carolinekloppert5177 I see...thank you for sharing this and I hope that many people will reflect on your comment.
Thank you! So happy I found your channel! This video is gold for me!
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for the comment!
Nice, Strata is light requirement rather than space . Very nice video!
That makes sense! Thanks for pointing it out! - We've came to this conclusion down in the comments about the math problem 😆
Hello ma'am I am from the western ghats in India and want to practice permaculture any input would be helpful
Hi there! Thank you for your comment. Here are some excellent free resources to get you started: 1. Oregon State University's Intro to Permaculture: workspace.oregonstate.edu/course/free-introduction-to-permaculture This free course covers the basics of permaculture and is a good starting point for beginners. Websites and Blogs 3. Permaculture Research Institute: www.permaculturenews.org/ Offers a wealth of articles, videos, and resources on various permaculture topics. 4. Permies.com: A community-driven site with forums, articles, and videos on permaculture and sustainable living. 5. Permaculture Principles: permacultureprinciples.com/ Offers free downloadable guides and resources on permaculture design principles. If you would like a personalized guide, consider joining our paid membership program at join.granvisio.com/. With this membership, you'll gain exclusive access to our Discord community, where you can get your questions answered daily. Prices start at €10 a month. Additionally, in Premium tier you can benefit from webinars and Q&A sessions that dive deep into permaculture design methods and practical tips. This interactive environment will empower you with the knowledge and resources needed to successfully apply permaculture to your area. Let me know if you have any questions!
what I don't understand is, is there anything that specifically makes the two styles incompatible? why can't a Syntropic kind of planting cycle be used to develop a Permaculture site?
I'm sorry that this is your impression from the video, but I haven't stated that the two are incompatible. In fact I encouraged to rely on permaculture strategies in combination with syntropic farming especially in Mediterranean and arid climates, because good water management practices are so crucial in these climates. I have nothing against syntropic farming. It's a wonderful approach. I've just seen people missing out going straight for row plantation according to syntropic farming forgetting how they will get water to the site with the least amount of effort (in Permaculture you don't plant until all water systems are in place). In climates where it pours constantly this is not a big issue.
@@granvisio apologies if I seemed to imply that I thought they were incompatible, I was just curious of ways that the two methods might be combined to get even better results. Thank you for explaining more details, I think I better understand now
@@Kavukamari No apologies needed. These topics are complicated and it's difficult to relay all the information in a short video. That's why I am grateful for the comments and questions. If you have more, please don't hesitate to ask.
Syntropic sometimes tiles the ground, but its just the first stage.
Yep and it's totally okay. In Permaculture people sometimes till the ground too or use Yeomans plow, which is non-invasive kind of ploughing, but the most important thing is in later stages of site development the rich, fluffy tops soil is developed. I wish the conventional farmers will wake up one day and see what they are missing out.
@@granvisio Its because both are labor intensive in comparison to monoculture. But permaculture and syntropic (agriforestation) are the future.
I plan to use moldboard plow, to create my swales. @ 20 ft. For fruit trees.
THANK YOU.
You're welcome! Thanks a lot for posting the comment and for watching!
I am Brazilian and currently practicing Agroforestry, also known as Syntropic Farming. I am also a certified permaculture designer. The key to syntropic agroforestry lies in the role humans play in the system, particularly through regular pruning and covering the ground with the material. This practice generates a significant pulse for the system, which accelerates regeneration by maximizing photosynthesis. Often, people unfamiliar with syntropic methods misunderstand its purpose and view it as a competitor to permaculture. However, the reality is different. Permaculture is a collection of techniques that address various aspects of human living, drawing from indigenous and traditional knowledge. In contrast, agroforestry is focused on restoring and creating agroecosystems. The two approaches complement each other well. You're viewing syntropic farming as a static recipe, but that’s simply not true. There are countless experiences and adaptations in different climates, scales, focus, etc. In fact, even within permaculture’s food forest strategy, you can apply syntropic techniques such as pruning, stratification, ground mulching, succession, and more. These methods are not exclusive to syntropic farming; they can enhance and complement permaculture practices as well.
Hi Filip! Thank you for the comment and sharing your experience. My intention wasn't to portray syntropic farming as a competitor to permaculture. In fact, I encouraged to combine the two systems especially if people live outside the tropics. I view Permaculture's water management strategies as unbeatable very first step to developing a site. This requires people to be super patient as they are keen to plant the trees straight away. While establishing syntropic food forest alone could work on sites where water is scarce, it sometimes may require so much more effort to keep the plants alive or bring the water in a complicated and costly way. Permaculture could fix these issues right from the beginning. That's why you don't see syntropic farming cases in deserts, but you see permaculture food forests in deserts. It doesn't mean syntropic farming is worse than Permaculture. I said both are wonderful systems, restoring the soil's health, increasing biodiversity and so much more. But we have to be realistic on sites where the conditions are harsh.
Are you familiar with agroecology? The scientific practice with immanent political ties to the food sovereignty and territoriality movements of indigenous and peasant groups? That's where it's at. As a Brazilian id be curious if you knew given the inspiring role agroecology has played in Movimento dos Trabalhadores Rurais Sem Terra; MST, as an anglophone who hasn't learned too much my knowledge is sparse. Anyways agroecology is better scientifically and because it doesn't repress it's revolutionary desires or take the capitalist land relations that are so violently forced on people who live in the periphery as a given, like permaculture does.