Examples of Permaculture Food Forest Tree Guilds in Temperate Climate
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Welcome to our latest video on Food Forest Guilds! In this episode, we'll be exploring the concept of guilds in a food forest and how they can help create a thriving ecosystem in your backyard.
A food forest is an edible landscape that mimics the natural structure of a forest ecosystem. It consists of layers of plants, from tall trees to ground covers, and everything in between. In a food forest, plants work together in harmony to create a self-sustaining environment.
Guilds take this idea a step further by creating interdependent groups of plants that work together to benefit each other. In this video, we'll be showcasing a few of our favorite guild combinations in temperate climate, explaining how they work, and sharing some tips on how you can create your own.
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The animation on these videos make it easy to understand. This is another wonderful education treat, Thank you for sharing!
Thank you for the lovely comment! Appreciate it!
I liked the apple tree guild the most as that is what I'm looking to plant first of all on our new smallholding. However, I'm looking at making into a silvopasture orchard so I can use the paddock for lambing and graze my chickens through the lanes once the sheep have moved on to graze down the rest of our land.
We are in a temperate location , in Scotland, but in a weird microclimate in a valley 200m above sea level and between two hills of 300m and 450m high. Had -17c in December and -15c in January, which was fun, especially as we just moved in then. I'm not wanting to plant too much until we get as close to a year of experience first.
Thank you for the video :)
Thanks so much for sharing your observation. Love the idea of lambs and chickens grazing in lanes between fruit trees. Wow seems right about the frost as it settles in valleys. Search for frost pits in google. This may help a bit. I think you are wise to wait and observe the climate and how everything interacts with rain and snow. You will be able to notice sweet spots for planting certain species. I am crossing my fingers for your adventures! Please share what you learned as you go! I am hoping for everyone reading the comments to learn from each other.
Wow! I don't have a homestead nor is my property large enough to create a food forest or have livestock on but Thank you so much for this vid, it was packed with information I can use for my space! We moved into our home 2 years ago and have both apple trees and plum trees that already existed here, however, there's NOTHING around them that is helpful, just grass. I've noticed last year both suffered tremendously and started to research this now so I can plant beneficial plants for these trees. I'm ordering most of these plants now, so I can get them in during Spring, I am also moving the currants (that also existed when we moved in) near the plum tree so it's more beneficial to the plum tree! Again, great stuff, subscribed, and hopefully one day, I can move up to a larger area to start my own permaculture food forest too!
Thank you so much for such a lovely comment! I am pleased it got you inspired and yes no matter the size of the plot we can still do amazing things. Glad you're having fun in your backyard. One thing that may be important for the weaker trees is addition of organic matter in a form of mulch or compost in circle around the tree bark so that the material doesn't touch the tree bark. If you've already planted something around it, that's okay you can just add organic matter in empty spaces around the tree - it will benefit the tree and your new plants.
@@granvisio Thank you!
Awesome video! I love the idea of tree guilds!
Thank you for watching, glad the video was inspiring to you!
Apple
Overstory: honey locust
Shrub: goumi berry
Base: comfrey
Groundcover: strawberry
Around : red clover
Windbreaker Hasel and walnut
Overstory: black locust
Tolerant to wet soil: currants
Wild flower lupine lemon balm, poppies, daisies, a to pest: mint, oragani
Windbreaker: pine juniper cedar
Pear
Overstory :black alder
Shrub: wisteria
For polinator: Gooseberry
Anti pest : wild boretsch
Groundcover : peanuts
Anti fruit tree borers: Allium
Cherry
Overstory : red alde
Shade: raspberries
Wild flower : chamomile, calendula wild violets
Polinator
Root layer: horse raddish
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Amazing video! Could you please describe how these guilds would work with vegetables since they don’t grow on trees but underground. It would also be great to see how other types crops, such as sugarcane, would be implemented in this system.
Thank you for the questions, and sorry for the late reply. So yes a food forest would ideally have a root layer. Typically we'd plant daikon radish or comfrey or other root species that loosen the soil and/or bring nutrients from far below the soil surface. You can plant root vegetables as well, but they would be planted beyond the trees' root ball surface area. As you probably guessed, you wouldn't want to disturb the roots of young trees. So for example nearer the base of a tree you would want to plant cover crops and herbs like clover, creeping thyme, alfalfa etc. Then for example you could locate flowers and bushes and then root vegetables further away. However, if you need root vegetables to come at larger quantities and at predictable rate , we'd plant them in rows as it is easier to maintain them and harvest them. We'd do it in a permaculture style, meaning trying to mix some other companion plants and have flowers and herbs in vicinity to deter pests and attract pollinators, and we'd try to not dig a soil and rely on compost as a source of fertilizer :) Hope this helps. Let me know if you have other questions.
Excellent information. Can you provide examples of food forest tree guilds for other climates - like tropical and so forth? Cheers Dr R
Thanks for the comment! Yes, that's my plan! In the next video there will be subtropical fruit tree guilds and after that tropical guilds. I'd like to publish two of them this week, but will see how I get on with them.
Not to be selfish, but I am in Florida could you do something for citrus trees, mangoes, avocados, and such fruits.
You're not selfish! This will help others too :) Absolutely! The subtropical guilds and tropical guilds videos are on the way! Thanks for leaving the comment!
Hey your animations are amazing and make fun watching, but the tree guilds are in my opinion too theoretical thought and they won't work this good as it sounds here. Have you tried them?
The apple tree guild: strawberries under an apple tree? first in germany it would be too less sun and the comefrey would shade them totally out. in addition when you manage the apple tree you trample down the strawberries.. also an apple tree is flat rooted... so its good to combine it with comefrey and in general with perennials which you can chop and drop for mulch but I wouldn't use strawberries
the pear tree guild: there is wisteria as a shrub and a vine on the graphic.. a little confusing... but a vine in a pear tree is not so smart.. it's to complicate to prune the tree then and the vine will strangle the pear tree. also it may shade too much and the tree doesn't dry so good after a rain which isn't good in a wet temperate climate... also peanuts wouldn't grow here...
I think your suggestions are good for a special place and special clients.. but what I see is, that people think that this is a very good tree guild and copy it but it doesn't work in their composition...
Also alders or locust... they like opposite locations. alders wet and heavy soil and locust light and more dry soil... so it depends a lot...
I think much better is to say:
Apple tree guild: (depending on your farming style) a perennial chop and drop groundcover (e.g. comefrey, ... depending on your location), or also salats when you water and harvest them before apple season ... and surrounded by berry shrubs or in neighborhood to a nitrogen fixer such as (....)
i know this is not what people like to hear... than they have too much to think about and people like to have a clear plan/solution.. but in permaculture in depends a lot on the client and the location what is fitting best. so This here is just one way of 1000 what to plant in a guild.
I think it's important to say that this is good at one place but may not be the solution for you. and here you can advertise a consultation ;)
Thank you for the comment and the feedback. What I’ve shown in this animation I haven’t tried but I’ve taken some ideas from farms I worked on. Other ideas came to me as a permaculture designer. Unfortunately, animations aren’t perfect. The size of plants and their proximity don’t match in real life. However, I am on the mission to inspire people to create beautiful landscapes and for now I hope the examples I am showing in a few minutes video like this will inspire people to try things out. I doubt the information would hurt them. I appreciate the advice however and agree that a disclaimer at the end of the video would be beneficial for my audience. My aim wasn't to make definitive suggestions of plant guilds for special places, but to show some possibilities. As long as my audience takes a step and uses 1% of the information I showed by learning about permaculture and maybe adding just one more plant to their mix every season, I am fulfilled.
Now I will address your points in turn:
I’ve seen strawberries under apple tree working. You can check some pictures of how people did it on google images. It can work well under a young tree especially if they are planted around it like shown on my animation (e.g. 1 meter apart from the trunk of a young tree, few meters apart from the trunk of a mature tree), or you could plant strawberries on a southern side of a tree. Comfrey can grow in the middle of strawberry circle so it wouldn’t completely shade them. Comfrey could be also chopped so their mulch is applied around strawberries and tree. When strawberry season is over, comfrey could grow wild again or continuously chopped as you mentioned. You don’t have to destroy the strawberries when managing a tree if they are planted in a good distance from the tree trunk.
On the pear tree guild, there is no vine. Borage is around the tree so maybe it looks like a vine, however there are labels on the animations. Wisteria is shown as a shrub not by mistake, as wisteria can be trained to grow as a tree or shrub. I disagree however about a vine climbing the pear tree. Although it wasn’t shown on my animation, I think it works well and it was applied by Mark Shepard. He successfully grows grapes climbing upon pear trees in North America. Contrary to common believes vines do not strangle trees and are usually good companions.
About the peanuts - yes, they are usually grown in warmer climates, but I didn’t include them in this animation by mistake. There are some varieties that are grown even in the north Canada. I encourage you to try them out in Germany like ‘Early Spanish’ variety.
About alders and locust - they are not shown altogether on the same fruit tree guild. But you’re right that generally alder likes wet soil. However, again there are different varieties of alders.
I appreciate the time you spent writing the comment. I’m sure it will help my viewers. Wish you all the best in your endeavours.
@@granvisio Hey thank you very much for your great reply.
It's Just my experience with people that they Copy one Idea of a permacultural example and If this doesnt Work vor them, they say permaculture doesnt Work without reflecting why. I Just want to prevent disappoinent with permaculture.
With the strawberries on the drip Line of the tree you are right. It's nice for an Apple tree Close to the House or in Zone 1 & 2..
What i know about wisteria is that IT IS a climber which twines around Any Support. I havent Seen wisteria without a climbing Support.
Grapes dont twine around. They create little Arms which Connect to nearby Branches. So they wont strangle.
I have planted akebias to Young >1m gingko trees. The akebias also twine around. The growth Speed of akebias is much faster than of gingkos. So the akebias did strangle the gingkos.
However thank you for your friendly reply.
@@permaculture-design._de Sure thing. I understand. Thanks for your input and for sharing your experience with gingkos and akebias.
@granvisio my permaculture teacher shared your video. I hope anyone doing permaculture doesn't let some other person mansplaining prevent them from dismissing a wonderful presentation. It takes time, energy, and motivation to create and only moments to try to destroy. I gave a follow. ❤
@@stevearcherii8329 Thank you for the comment! Wow it's incredible your permaculture teacher showed my video to you! If it gave you a value, I am the happiest person on the Planet. However, if something is missing or unclear or misleading I'd rather hear the criticism and try to improve. Thank you for the sweetest comment and the follow! It gives me a motivation to keep going.
Where can oak tree's fit into these groupings? Oak tree's have myriad benefits to humans, animals and insects
Great question! The short answer is: they will fit everywhere as long as they are appropriately distanced from fruit trees to prevent shading. They will also fit in silvopasture next to dogwood so that different animals like pigs, goats and ducks can eat the acorns. I wonder why I haven’t included oaks in this video, because as you say oaks are so beneficial. They provide shade, habitat for wildlife, food for animals and rich mulch from their fallen leaves. They are also an excellent source of firewood and to use them for this purpose there is no need to cut the entire tree - just the branches which is plenty. Thank you for the question and watching the video!
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