What's the Permaculture's Secret to Good Water Management on Farms?
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- This is a continuation video comparing water management on modern agricultural and permaculture farms. We'll look at the differences on a deeper level and see why effective water management involves making fundamental changes in agricultural practices. So, please tune in to see what it really takes to manage water efficiently on farms!
Permaculture is a sustainable design philosophy that focuses on creating systems that are resilient to environmental change. As you probably know, permaculture is a very water-efficient way to produce food. In this video, we're going to uncover what aspect plays a key role in efficient water management, so you'll know the secret to good water management on permaculture farms.
So why wait? Watch this video and learn how to create a water-efficient permaculture farm that will ensure long-term sustainability!
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Lovely video! Very easy to understand and implement.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching!
Great video as always!
I appreciate your time! Thank you for the lovely comment!
Your videos are super well made. Tanks.
But i must say, after seeing this video and the previous one on water...everything you say is true. But, it real world, dosent make much sense. Because permaculture and big commodity farmming are 2 completly different endenvours. One is for comercial food prodution for the masses, the other is for non comercial self prodution in homestead/gardenning context. Comercial ag produces 99,9 % of food people eat, and we, permaculturists just produce a bit, mostly for the self, with no comercial pressures. When something is done comercially everything changes.
So far permaculture didnt produce an alternative to big ag. An i belive it cant, because, by design and philosophy is anti comercial.
Hope some day there will be somekind of in between, or at least some communication between systems. Maybe in forestry it can happen. I dont know...seems worlds apart.
Thank you for sharing your thoughts! If the videos on permaculture water management make you feel there is a substance in them, and that the way we as permaculturists deal with landscape is logical and in harmony with mother Earth, then there is no reason to have any doubts. Just because we are in minority doesn’t mean it makes no sense.
I strongly disagree with your statement that permaculture is ONLY for non-commercial production in homestead/gardening context. If that was the case, Bill Mollison would not travel around the world to share indigenous land management practices that are forgotten in modern world. A Designer’s Manual written by Bill Mollison has almost 600 pages containing landscape design solutions for every climate and situation telling you how to cultivate land in harmony with nature resulting in enhanced crop production whether for large scale or small-scale settings.
Just because the majority of Permaculture channels are run by small gardeners, it doesn’t mean the Permaculture is not applicable to commercial production. Take for instance Stefan Sobkowiak (link to his channel: www.youtube.com/@StefanSobkowiak), he has a large-scale orchard in Canada and he applies permaculture principles to produce outstanding crops. Just because he doesn’t own all the land in Canada doesn’t mean other commercial farmers can’t do what he does.
Here's a video of a farmer in the UK that started applying regenerative agriculture principles: th-cam.com/video/QZn9Q_wAUsw/w-d-xo.html
Results from not ploughing his field: tons of money saved on diesel that would be consumed by machines, better soil fertility by using cover crops and healthy pasture for his cows.
Here’s a quote from Bill Mollison’s lecture:
“There is another man who’s pushing his food jungle just out of habit. […] A few years ago he started to build out the edge of a rain forest, moving out into the grasslands. He went about 30 yards, assembling trees. He has some 600 species of tropical trees. As soon as he had his trees going, he started to put in vines and epiphytes. By the second or third year, when I saw him, he was over his head in food. All around there was the sounds of food thudding to the ground. Now he’s just gotten cracking. He had just assembled his species, and already he was in the embarrassing position where he could feed the whole coastline around him for miles.”
If you look online, there are tons of examples of farmers slowly switching to sustainable land management practices. It is up to us what future will hold. If more people decide to buy groceries from local markets and from small farmers who still use manure to fertilize the soil, and realize even if the price is slightly higher - the local food is more nutritious - which means less volume can be consumed. So instead of eating 4 tomatoes sprayed with pesticides, they you can eat one organic tomato produced locally. The price difference is almost unnoticeable if you look at this in these categories. So, the consumers need to change too, not only the farmers. If it came to that, the whole economy would change. There would be no more profits for commercial agriculture, only for local production not necessarily on large scale, could be medium scale. It’s a terrifying thought to some people that food could be produced efficiently on small farms as it was pre-green revolution.
@@granvisio well, maybe im wrong and you right.
But, what a see is different. Stefan s orchard is very small. That s almost homestead like operation. He dosent make any profit on food prodution, that is a "you pick" model. And his orchard is...barely permaculture. Just lines, not that many diversity, stone fruit trees planted with plastic mulch and irrigation, with a few nitrogen fixers in the midle. And he himself said in one of his videos that the farm was a "blackhole" before...youtube and workshops and merchandising come to play. Not comercial food prodution...
When you say that permaculture food have 4x plus nutrition...well, no science in that, at all.
And then there is this broad notion of permaculture, regenerative farmming, no till, and other names...many thing can be included, but then, anything can be anything.
Nowdays food prodution in big ag is much more produtive that ever was, per acre, and in absolute numbers, because of all the science and tecnology (from tractors, to quimical aplications, to irrigation, greenhouses, etc). And comercial farmming dosent deal just with the prodution of food itself. Marketing, acounting, wharehouses, distribution, suply chains, gov regulations, etc...allcome into play.
Permaculture dont deal with any of those things, because it dosent produces food comercially. So far its just homestead,landscaping and a bit of forestry. Non comercial. At least i dont known a single case.. unless one also considers joel salatin permaculture...
From my own experience , what i see in the net, and other places i personally visit, living of permaculture dosent mean living of food prodution, means living of consulting, workshops, youtube, "rural tourism" etc.
And thats all right.
Different things. Different contex. Different objectives.
@@srantoniomatos Thanks for your reply. Ok another example: Mark Shepard 106 acres. He and his clients profits from silvopasture, mainly from nut trees.
I still believe you can make lots of profits from permaculture food production, because you don't need a large space! You need to understand you can have crops stacked one over another. I know Geoff's students achieved this on a commercial scale too. But I agree the data on stats and money is not present or we have to dig deeper. This doesn't mean it doesn't work. You say commercial food production is bigger than ever before....on what? hybridized grains, GMO food that withstand pesticides killing the soil and our health. It's insane to support/admire this once you know the truth how this food is made. The soils are washed away because of ploughing and erosion and there is no life in the soil. How long this can continue until we change? Besides commercial farmers rely on government subsidies to make a living, without these additional governments payments for their work they would be broke because of how unsustainable and how unprofitable monoculture is! This is a bubble that will pop one day.
This makes me want to work with commercial farmers and do real studies. That's my mission. All I know is it can all be very simple, and very profitable. It’s easier to say oh I better give up cause, I will need to figure out marketing. These days a 15-year-old can help you with that. No excuses, sorry. If there is a will, there’s a way. And of course, is harder for people like us, when we start building from zero. To set up a profitable farm you need to have an upfront money that you invest but that’s like with every business. That's why you have more people doing permaculture on small scale because no big money is needed upfront to sustain your loved ones. And for many people this is enough. The farmers like the one in the UK, I showed you, they start to look for alternatives because the money makes no sense after they invest in equipment and buy all these fertilizers and pesticides. Some start to research and slowly change their practices for more sustainable for the better, money wise too!
Bless you for showing your perspective, it inspires me to work harder.
@@granvisio apreciate your reply. Tanks. I lived in this dilemas for the last decade...also started with an idealist vision about it.
I live in permaculture homestead. Do landscaping as a job (because i wanted to learn, and work, and live on the land). Have a bunch of friends, family and clients that work on all kinds of agro business. From nursery, to veggies, to orchards. Im can see hundreeds of hectars of professional comercial orchards around me, from my balcony... also can see miles of native forest, as well as miles of comercial silvaculture. So, speak from reality.
Let talk about...mark shepard. Love him. The most realistic permaculturist i know. He dosent live of food prodution, and lives humble. He also does consulting, workshops, youtube, and real state development...
And thats it, Mark and Stefan are the 2 examples everyone always talks about. Poor case for comercial permaculture.
From my world experience, can tell you every professional comercial farmer would migrate to any kind of pratices (permaculture or whatever) is you can demonstrate to them, with numbers and rela life examples it work...but we dont have any. I tried. They asked me for that. I tried..
Its very nice to talk about diversity, staking funtions and levels, etc, but there is a cost to it when it comes to prodution, and, mostly, to complexity and cost of management.
Belive that a few young people, very energetic, working on niche crops, and for niche clientel (rich people) can make a living with permaculture. But thats the exception, not the rule.
Permaculture dosent appear as an alternative to big ag, just as a sub division of small scale homestead like, lanscape, public parks, etc.
We have to be realistic and humble, if we want to do anything idealistc work.