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I don't know where you've been living but he literally admitted to the claims over a week ago...

The fact you don't even know what you are talking cause tubbo got proven false on everything by Dream in their discussion is actually funny lol

@@shishineraoiba didnt know i was talking abt tubbo, huh, im shocked, im was talking abt the editors that were "underpayed and worked for free" that came out and proved that wrong, how tommys mom took screenshots of dream harassing her and showed those, how more than just tommy said dream hung his success and how he held it over everyone in the dream smp, how tommy never scammed his fans with his merch and how the payments made to "child labor" was actually just to their friend, you should watch a video with better evidence thats not one sided and who has done research, super mando live is a good person to watch for this cause he shows all the proof and is in the middle in terms of the drama (dont forget dream takes abt 95% of everything he says is proof wildly outta context)

​@@KitsuneCB5FI watched the videos. Both of tommy and Dream. And the other 7h Stream, and the reddit response AND Tubbo and dream stream discussing with each other. And sorry but what you are saying here is false Just to prove it, the screens were legit just not about tommy current editors just old ones that used the leeway tommy have them by not being involved in the process to get fans to help them edit things, his current editors confirmed the discord from the people who sent it to him is legit. The "didn't" cut is irrevelant to the context because the "I'm thinking" in those screenshots already show that he didn't do it and just thought about it. It was a clapback to tommy saying he put work into his content unlike Dream which is low effort according to him, so Dream said that, providing the screenshots as proof, and telling him that at least he edit his videos by himself alone. The ones about pay were about jack from the start , it was cause of tommy comment about his "good friends" that had "good hearts" unlike dream's friends. so he put a big bold white text with "this is about Tommy's friends with good heart" ON TOP of a screen as proof of underpaying editors at the start of his online career, he even showed the file that he named "Jacklowpay.png" ( and still people shared it as Dream saying it's about tommy when it was never) and talked about the constant mentions, mocking and gross and pedo jokes they all kept making about him for nearly a year The child labor was true , Tubbo confirmed it was true in his stream with Dream, he confirmed that yes the company Tommy worked with did use Child labors time that he knows off and that he doesn't have proof of others instances but that it did happen. The company stuff was know for months because it was a company that scammed multiples ccs and coffeszilla made a video and full investigation about it. Dream also founded his own company with employees so he has even more infos about the child labor that tubbo confirmed. It's also from the same video that Dream pulled the 10 seconds clips that have tubbo invoices, and even there where Tubbo was dead convinced it was put here as "evidence against tommy" it was literally just a random clips from coffeszilla's video to have a financial background and provide context to what he was talking about and not remotedly what tubbo assumed it was ( he didn't even know that it was from that video and just started saying it was a lie and speculated how he got it when it had no importance and in the end just show how tubbo was biaised trying to find malicious intent in insignificant details to what was being said) I can Accord to you that Dream worded it in a way that caused confusions but there was no lies here. That was as a clapback to tommy saying " I'm not the one selling babies photos in merch (that was Dream's mom ideas and product, it was his family merch business and not even his for context) amd your mech designs are bad " he attacked Dream's merchs so Dream told that as a way to say don't throw stones in a glass house, that he can't badmouth his merchs with his own situation being like that. The friends that was called "whore" as a joke went live and was pissed as people using the interactions they have seen with her and Dream in public and in text to get ammos for rumours cause she said she knows it's a joke and that's it a common one between them and she is tired and pissed at people just relaying these two instances without even talking to her first. Ludwig admitted after the flames of the situation that the friend he is talking about is ALSO Dream friends too Tubbo was out for blood saying everything is false but he got nearly everything out of context with his own malicious interpretations and didn't realize too many things till he talked to Dream and still then he tried to shift the talking points ( like when he was mad at dream for "not saying anything during the caiti situation" and when Dream told him he did, specifically because he was there AND because Tubbo's riends dragged him publicly for it , TUBBO then tell him that it's still bad cause he shouldn't have responded then. Which is it. Like him going on and on about the same arguments because Dream's point made sense and was differents from what he thought it was so he kept circling and circling to "catch him", circling About the child labor that he himself admitted was true, circled about how Tommy don't need proof because it's "different" , circled about how he should have made it more clear it was about old editors using dans cause of leeway and the not paying Thumbnails artist and the others screen about pay concerning jack When it was said and implied and tubbo just didn't see that because he didn't want to, circled about how the pedo jokes and the badmouthing mentions and making funs of DTeam with sneaky snides was not that bad to react like that, circled about how the cantu situation was irrelevant when it was in his justification of him lashing out and making an impulsive decision because all their fanbases were feeding off of negs about him AND RELUCTANTLY accepting that his apology was good and valid, CORNERED HIM TO TALK ABOUT HIS SEXUALITY AND OUTING HIMSELF ON STREAM WHEN HE LIVES IN A FUCKING RED STATES, not acknowledging how his group and tommy spread he was a "trumpi" for cheap laugh and malicious slander cause everyone will believe that since it's against him and making it "not that bad", SAYING HOW HE DIDN'T HOLD IT ANYTHING OVER THEIR HEAD OR TOOK SUCCESS FOR ANYTHING AS THEY WERE SAYING BUT THAT IT WAS HOW THEY FELT SO THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY DREAM IS IN THE WRONG????? , Not acknowledging Tommy lying about "harassing his mother" as SLANDER cause her being a Twitter user with 100k followers arguing with 16yo stans wasn't a reason to dm her ONE MESSAGE telling her THAT HE DON'T WANT HER TO ATTACKED and giving her advice to just stop responding and giving his opinion on what she was arguing about since IT WAS ABOUT HIM, one text and he used it as reasons to lie and didn't think that Dream would show it, and he did show it and it was NOTHING at all as he was portraying it to deflect. He worded things badly since he had one day to make the video as short as possible yes but it's NOTHING compared to all the empty "he said she said" "behind the scenes" "Rumours" bullshit Tommy was using as reasons to not show any evidence, because he was making stuff up and knew that people would believe him regardless. it was fucking tiring and frustrating to watch everything but at least I got all the info on that fucking useless and stupid internet Drama You really need to stop assuming you have all the infos when just from what you say it's clear you only got one side of the informations most likely released by biased parties/gen , because I'm sorry but your arguments are too empty or outdated. Have a good day.

@KitsuneCB5F And you are LYING too damn, either you were fed misinformation that you believe without questioning it or you are doing it on purpose, I think you are just misinformed personally Tommy mom NEVER showed screenshot of dreams dm, it was one DMS that DREAN SHOWED Tommy worked with a company that used child labor and that scammed creator The editors in questions were not current but old ones not the one here , the point was not that they were "underpayed and worked for free" the point was tommy is less involved in his videos editing and that allowed those ones to ask fans to help for very little or free, the screen about low pay is about JACK it was made clear and he confirmed that it was at the beggining of his CC career , the only one who took ownership of the success is TOMMY, Dream never did and showed multiple DMS and clips from tommy from 1 to 2 years to show it , he never streamed on the smp and never made videos about it just showing on multiple other people streams to boost them he always said that EVERYONE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SERVER SUCESS the only ones who felt like it was "hung" is Tommy's group so the problems is their own FEELINGS AMD ASSUMPTIONS that they are using as FACTS. Even Tubbo couldn't give any examples on stream and tommy didn't provide any except his words cause he couldn't since there's none. You don't even know what you are talking about as I said

i aint reading that essay, do that for school not for a youtube comment section, id recommend taking a walk, not everything is abt the internet and minecraft youtubers

She supported someone that isn't a victim